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General Category => Health/Education => Topic started by: mystery-ak on September 12, 2023, 05:38:41 pm
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FDA panel says common over-the-counter decongestant doesn’t work
Story by Berkeley Lovelace Jr
A key ingredient in many over-the-counter cold and allergy medications called phenylephrine doesn’t work to get rid of nasal congestion, a Food and Drug Administration advisory panel concluded Tuesday.
The unanimous vote, which specifically declared oral formulations of phenylephrine ineffective, is expected to disrupt the market for OTC cold and allergy remedies, where consumers largely prefer pills over nasal sprays.
Phenylephrine — found in drugs including Sudafed PE, Vicks Sinex and Benadryl Allergy Plus Congestion — is the most popular oral decongestant in the United States, generating almost $1.8 billion in sales last year, according to data presented Monday by FDA officials.
The drug is thought to relieve congestion by reducing the swelling of blood vessels in the nasal passages.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/fda-panel-says-common-over-the-counter-decongestant-doesn-t-work/ar-AA1gC0kL?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=d803cb18d27047da9e06d52d481e7568&ei=9
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If it reduces swelling, is it an anti-inflamatory?
Apparently a lot of people think it works, or it would not be a top selling decongestant ingredient.
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Apparently the behind-the-counter-so-you-supposedly-can't-make-meth version is still good, though. My husband can't take it though, due to blood pressure issues.
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I can't comment wrt dosage, but phenylephrine works well for me on the rare occasion I use it. Nasal sprays, while effective have a nasty rebound effect as it wears off, to as bad or worse than before using it. One can easily get "hooked" if you do not realize what it does (BTDTGTTS).
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Like all drugs they disapprove were once approved by this same organization. Follow the $$$$.
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On the rare occasions I've taken a decongestant, it seemed to work for me. :shrug:
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I like to keep a bottle for the good ole Winter colds... The benefits don't last long, but usually long enough to where I can get a hot shower or a steam wrap started. I really could benefit from one of those nasal scrapings surgeries, because I have a small passageway (probable too many pops in the nose as a kid in fights).
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Sure @Sighlass
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Sure @Sighlass
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Lol, does coke mess up one's sinuses? I live a very sheltered life, aside from a beer or two, and trying pot once in college. In a word, I'm pretty "boring", I guess. Hold it, I did smoke cigs for 20 years.
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Sudafed, Benadryl and most decongestants don’t work: FDA advisory panel
By Marc Lallanilla
Published Sep. 12, 2023, 3:48 p.m. ET
NY Post (https://nypost.com/2023/09/12/fda-says-sudafed-benadryl-other-decongestants-dont-work/)
An advisory panel of the Food and Drug Administration stated today that virtually all over-the-counter decongestants simply don’t work.
The FDA panel found that phenylephrine — the active ingredient in Sudafed, Benadryl, Robitussin, and other popular decongestants — is nearly useless at reducing nasal congestion.
The advisory panel’s ruling might soon lead to these oral products being pulled off store shelves nationwide. (Nasal sprays containing phenylephrine are unaffected by the ruling.)
“This drug and this oral dose should have been removed from the market a long time ago,” Jennifer Schwartzott, a patient advocate from New York, told NBC News. ...
Well, that's a puzzler. Benedryl is diphenhydramine 25 mg. It's an antihistamine. Why are they calling it a phenylephine (PE)-based decongestant?
Oh, and phenylephine does work as a decongestant. Its effects are not just "placebo effect." Whenever Mr. M's mentally handicapped brother became congested, he would make annoying snorting sounds trying to clear his sinuses. Mr. M gave him a generic PE tablet, and it cleared him up fairly quickly. We then could take him to church without having him disrupt the service with his snorting. He certainly wasn't able to convince himself it worked - he didn't even know why he was getting that little red pill or what it was supposed to cure.
I guess I'm going to stock up on some PE and generic Benedryl before they unnecessarily ban them. *****rollingeyes*****
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Apparently the behind-the-counter-so-you-supposedly-can't-make-meth version is still good, though. My husband can't take it though, due to blood pressure issues.
Real sudafed works wonders and makes you high too. Get the 12 hour release tablets. Good stuff.
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Well, that's a puzzler. Benedryl is diphenhydramine 25 mg. It's an antihistamine. Why are they calling it a phenylephine (PE)-based decongestant?
Oh, and phenylephine does work as a decongestant. Its effects are not just "placebo effect." Whenever Mr. M's mentally handicapped brother became congested, he would make annoying snorting sounds trying to clear his sinuses. Mr. M gave him a generic PE tablet, and it cleared him up fairly quickly. We then could take him to church without having him disrupt the service with his snorting. He certainly wasn't able to convince himself it worked - he didn't even know why he was getting that little red pill or what it was supposed to cure.
I guess I'm going to stock up on some PE and generic Benedryl before they unnecessarily ban them. *****rollingeyes*****
Yes, Benadryl is something else entirely ... and a really, really good allergy relief medicine, so long as you're able to sleep it off. Sometimes when I'm just miserable with allergies and the Claritin/Zyrtec/Allegra/Xyzal aren't cutting it, Benadryl is the only thing that helps.
Interesting that your brother-in-law had good results with the phenylephrine. Maybe it works well for some and not for others.
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Yes, Benadryl is something else entirely ... and a really, really good allergy relief medicine, so long as you're able to sleep it off. Sometimes when I'm just miserable with allergies and the Claritin/Zyrtec/Allegra/Xyzal aren't cutting it, Benadryl is the only thing that helps.
Interesting that your brother-in-law had good results with the phenylephrine. Maybe it works well for some and not for others.
I love benadryl but it makes you a depressed zombie the whole next day. Amazing how powerful it is.
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I love benadryl but it makes you a depressed zombie the whole next day. Amazing how powerful it is.
Wow, it doesn't do that to me at all. Amazing how drugs can affect people so differently.
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Wow, it doesn't do that to me at all. Amazing how drugs can affect people so differently.
No kidding. I don't have any issues with Benadryl other than the sleepiness when I take it. But I have noticed that Allegra makes me very cranky. :shrug:
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I've sadly become so suspicious of these people. Maybe this OTC works for some and not for others. Who cares as long as there is no harm done? Sounds like there is a new OTC that will soon be pushed and somebody will make some bucks. :shrug:
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I love benadryl but it makes you a depressed zombie the whole next day. Amazing how powerful it is.
We always used the children's elixr, and just a tiny dose of that. Worked well, better dosage control, and I believe in using the least effective dose to cut side effects. A quarter teaspoon produced results for me, and I'm 6' and about 240 lbs. YMMV.
I used 24 hr. dissolving Claririn when I had COVID and it helped.
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The most effective OTC nasal decongestant for me, without resorting to the behind the counter pseudoephedrine is Oxymetazoline. I go for the cheapest I can get that has the same concentration as something a lot more expensive. Store brand vs name brand.
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Folks, the FDA panel said that this stuff taken orally was ineffective.
The report does not concern nasal "sprays", which are effective.
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I was referring to pills, not sprays. My experience is that they are, in fact, effective.
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Pseudoephedrine works. Phenylephrine does not.