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Bush Center Slams Trump: We Want More Migration
Breitbart, May 3, 2020
The economics director at President George W. Bush’s advocacy center slammed President Donald Trump’s popular, pro-American immigration policy.
The May 1 slam came just before Bush posted a May 2 video urging national unity in the coronavirus crash that has pushed more than 25 million Americans out of jobs.
“The most important thing to remember in this is that we don’t want [Trump’s] temporary policy to become permanent immigration policy,†economic director Laura Collins said in a video posted on the center’s Twitter account.
She continued: "We know immigrants are good for the economy. We know they’re good for our culture. We know they’re in this fight with us together, and we’re going to meet them working with us side by side in any recovery after the pandemic is over."
Trump’s April 22 immigration policy says the economic needs of American employees are more important than the immigration preferences of foreigners. His policy temporarily trims the annual inflow of legal immigrants and directs agencies to review visa worker programs in 30 days.
Polls show the public — including recent immigrants — is overwhelmingly aligned with Trump in prioritizing jobs for Americans over welcomes for legal immigrants.
More: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/03/bush-center-slams-trump-we-want-more-migration/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/03/bush-center-slams-trump-we-want-more-migration/)
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Open border globalists that want to subordinate the US to the UN
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It’s a wonder we survived 2000 till 2016 as a sovereign nation at all.
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It’s a wonder we survived 2000 till 2016 as a sovereign nation at all.
W's first term wasn't bad, but his last 4 years were a complete disaster.
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W's first term wasn't bad, but his last 4 years were a complete disaster.
Well, given that Bush did NOTHING to prevent 911 and tangled us into 3 wars we did not want to win, in his first term, IMO bush was a disaster all the way around...
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W's first term wasn't bad, but his last 4 years were a complete disaster.
Yes, he became a compassionate idiot! And what kind of morons at the Bush Center pushes for more immigration(I'm sure he didn't mean legal) in the middle of a national crisis with millions of Americans out of work and businesses shuttered? Exactly where do they propose those ignorant unskilled 'immigrants' work..........the welfare office lines?
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"Compassionate Conservatism" is neither.
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I read it @Right_in_Virginia and you are only bringing attention to the same things Trump has done. Increased HB Visa's. This EO is only temporary. I'm sorry, but he also made an exception for migrant farm workers. And now on the farms migrants are either coming with COVID or getting it in their tight living situations on the farms.
There are plenty of people out of work and out of school to pick fruit and vegetable's. Even plenty of illegal immigrants already in the US.
And don't deny it. Here is his tweet in this video on FOX News.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/04/trumps-lies-about-coronavirus/608647/ (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/04/trumps-lies-about-coronavirus/608647/)
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Thirty Million Americans out of work and he wants to import a labor force?
Beyond "out of touch"....
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And believe me at the time I gave Bush hell. When he let President Vincente Fox come and dictate how we should treat Mexican immigrants. I said The Fox was in the hen house.
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About Trump EO
Several exceptions for migrant workers including those in the food industry and technology.
https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/21/trump-60-day-immigration-pause-green-card-permanent-resident/
Who isn't an exception?
Believe me I was no fan of Bush immigration policy. Not impressed with Trump either.
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About Trump EO
Several exceptions for migrant workers including those in the food industry and technology.
https://dailycaller.com/2020/04/21/trump-60-day-immigration-pause-green-card-permanent-resident/
Who isn't an exception?
Believe me I was no fan of Bush immigration policy. Not impressed with Trump either.
But but butt... WAAAAAAALLLLLL!!!!1 *****rollingeyes*****
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But but butt... WAAAAAAALLLLLL!!!!1 *****rollingeyes*****
And the crazy thing is he touts this EO like its something special. Reality is that we should have stopped all labor immigration anyway because of COVID. Not to spread it. But the exceptions allow immigrants to come from and through Mexico where they are experiencing a yuuuuuuuge outbreak of COVID.
There is also problems with the American companies inside Mexico shutting down because of COVID. Trump has warned them to open back up.
US pushes Mexico to reopen border factories, even as more workers die from COVID-19
See article on: www.latimes.com (http://www.latimes.com) By Kate Linthicum, Wendy Fry and Gabriela Minjares, Los Angeles Times 2 days ago
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I read it @Right_in_Virginia and you are only bringing attention to the same things Trump has done. Increased HB Visa's. This EO is only temporary. I'm sorry, but he also made an exception for migrant farm workers. And now on the farms migrants are either coming with COVID or getting it in their tight living situations on the farms.
There are plenty of people out of work and out of school to pick fruit and vegetable's. Even plenty of illegal immigrants already in the US.
And don't deny it. Here is his tweet in this video on FOX News.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/04/trumps-lies-about-coronavirus/608647/ (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/04/trumps-lies-about-coronavirus/608647/)
Wading through your hate looking for a kernel of rationality to latch on to is exhausting @Chosen Daughter and I've reached my limit. Our interactions are over.
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And the crazy thing is he touts this EO like its something special. Reality is that we should have stopped all labor immigration anyway because of COVID. Not to spread it. But the exceptions allow immigrants to come from and through Mexico where they are experiencing a yuuuuuuuge outbreak of COVID.
I have never believed his closed border rhetoric... It's that 'big beautiful door' that told the tale.
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I voted for G.W. twice.
But now... he and the rest of his family... should just go away.
Hard to admit it, but Jesse Jackson had it right:
"Stay outta da Bushes!"
(at least I think that quote came from him...)
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I voted for G.W. twice.
But now... he and the rest of his family... should just go away.
Hard to admit it, but Jesse Jackson had it right:
"Stay outta da Bushes!"
(at least I think that quote came from him...)
You are right @Fishrrman happy77
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjLUS0Lt-8#)
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6 minutes ago#18. MY OLD POST
President TRUMP has talked about this at every rally and press conference! First HE FOLLOWS THE LAWS!
second., CONGRESS WILL NOT CHANGE THE LAWS THAT HARM AMERICANS. So much for helping minorities, who now stab us in the back! IMMIGRATION LAWS that allow people from Africa, Asia,LATIN AMERICA, into America. THANK JFK, LBJ, TEDDY KENNEDY. NOW DEMON-RATS WON'T CHANGE LAWS.
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U.S. Immigration Since 1965. HISTORY.COM EDITORS
CONTENTS
Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965
Immediate Impact
Continuing Source of Debate
Immigration in the 21st Century
The Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965, also known as the Hart-Celler Act, abolished an earlier quota system based on national origin and established a new immigration policy based on reuniting immigrant families and attracting skilled labor to the United States. Over the next four decades, the policies put into effect in 1965 would greatly change the demographic makeup of the American population, as immigrants entering the United States under the new legislation came increasingly from countries in Asia, Africa and Latin America, as opposed to Europe.
Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965
By the early 1960s, calls to reform U.S. immigration policy had mounted, thanks in no small part to the growing strength of the civil rights movement. At the time, immigration was based on the national-origins quota system in place since the 1920s, under which each nationality was assigned a quota based on its representation in past U.S. census figures. The civil rights movement’s focus on equal treatment regardless of race or nationality led many to view the quota system as backward and discriminatory. In particular, Greeks, Poles, Portuguese and Italians–of whom increasing numbers were seeking to enter the U.S.–claimed that the quota system discriminated against them in favor of Northern Europeans.
President John F. Kennedy even took up the immigration reform cause, giving a speech in June 1963 calling the quota system “intolerable.â€
Did you know? A report in early 2009 by the DHS's Office of Immigration Statistics estimated the number of "unauthorized immigrants" in the United States at 10.7 million, down from 11.6 million in 2008. The recent decline in immigration coincided with the economic downturn in the U.S., but figures were still up from 2000, when illegal immigrants numbered some 8.5 million.
After Kennedy’s assassination that November, Congress began debating and would eventually pass the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965, co-sponsored by Representative Emanuel Celler of New York and Senator Philip Hart of Michigan and heavily supported by the late president’s brother,
Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts. During Congressional debates, a number of experts testified that little would effectively change under the reformed legislation, and it was seen more as a matter of principle to have a more open policy. Indeed, on signing the act into law in October 1965, President Lyndon B. Johnson stated that the act “is not a revolutionary bill. It does not affect the lives of millions….It will not reshape the structure of our daily lives or add importantly to either our wealth or our power.â€
Immediate Impact
In reality (and with the benefit of hindsight), the bill signed in 1965 marked a dramatic break with past immigration policy, and would have an immediate and lasting impact. In place of the national-origins quota system, the act provided for preferences to be made according to categories, such as relatives of U.S. citizens or permanent residents, those with skills deemed useful to the United States or refugees of violence or unrest. Though it abolished quotas per se, the system did place caps on per-country and total immigration, as well as caps on each category. As in the past, family reunification was a major goal, and the new immigration policy would increasingly allow entire families to uproot themselves from other countries and reestablish their lives in the U.S.
In the first five years after the bill’s passage, immigration to the U.S. from Asian countries–especially those fleeing war-torn Southeast Asia (Vietnam, Cambodia)–would more than quadruple. (Under past immigration policies, Asian immigrants had been effectively barred from entry.) Other Cold War-era conflicts during the 1960s and 1970s saw millions of people fleeing poverty or the hardships of communist regimes in Cuba, Eastern Europe and elsewhere to seek their fortune on American shores.
All told, in the three decades following passage of the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965, more than 18 million legal immigrants entered the United States, more than three times the number admitted over the preceding 30 years.
By the end of the 20th century, the policies put into effect by the Immigration Act of 1965 had greatly changed the face of the American population.
Whereas in the 1950s, more than half of all immigrants were Europeans and just 6 percent were Asians, by the 1990s only 16 percent were Europeans and 31 percent were of Asian descent, while the percentages of Latino and African immigrants had also jumped significantly. Between 1965 and 2000, the highest number of immigrants (4.3 million) to the U.S. came from Mexico, in addition to some 1.4 million from the Philippines. Korea, the Dominican Republic, India, Cuba and Vietnam were also leading sources of immigrants, each sending between 700,000 and 800,000 over this period.
Continuing Source of Debate
Throughout the 1980s and 1990s, illegal immigration was a constant source of political debate, as immigrants continue to pour into the United States, mostly by land routes through Canada and Mexico. The Immigration Reform Act in 1986 attempted to address the issue by providing better enforcement of immigration policies and creating more possibilities to seek legal immigration. The act included two amnesty programs for unauthorized aliens, and collectively granted amnesty to more than 3 million illegal aliens. Another piece of immigration legislation, the 1990 Immigration Act, modified and expanded the 1965 act, increasing the total level of immigration to 700,000. The law also provided for the admission of immigrants from “underrepresented†countries to increase the diversity of the immigrant flow.
The economic recession that hit the country in the early 1990s was accompanied by a resurgence of anti-immigrant feeling, including among lower-income Americans competing for jobs with immigrants willing to work for lower wages.
In 1996, Congress passed the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act, which addressed border enforcement and the use of social programs by immigrants.
Immigration in the 21st Century
In the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the Homeland Security Act of 2002 created the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which took over many immigration service and enforcement functions formerly performed by the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS). With some modifications, the policies put into place by the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965 are the same ones governing U.S. immigration in the early 21st century. Non-citizens currently enter the United States lawfully in one of two ways, either by receiving either temporary (non-immigrant) admission or permanent (immigrant) admission. A member of the latter category is classified as a lawful permanent resident, and receives a green card granting them eligibility to work in the United States and to eventually apply for citizenship.
There could be perhaps no greater reflection of the impact of immigration than the 2008 election of Barack Obama, the son of a Kenyan father and an American mother. (from Kansas), as the nation’s first African-American president. Eighty-five percent white in 1965, the nation’s population was one-third minority in 2009 and is on track for a nonwhite majority by 2042.
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Wading through your hate looking for a kernel of rationality to latch on to is exhausting @Chosen Daughter and I've reached my limit. Our interactions are over.
It's like listening to a song played on a defective turntable. It just keep skipping back to the same place.
If you'll allow the dated reference.
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I'm still completely amazed that nobody has made the connection between the ecoli infected lettuce outbreaks an' the fact that the lettuce came from fields harvested by the invasive species that an open borders policy has inflicted upon us.
:pop41:
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I'm still completely amazed that nobody has made the connection between the ecoli infected lettuce outbreaks an' the fact that the lettuce came from fields harvested by the invasive species that an open borders policy has inflicted upon us.
:pop41:
Oh, not just e coli, but EV D-68 and a host of other pathogens we never knew before.
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When I was growing up toddlers throwing temper tantrums got their bare a** beat with a wooden spoon.
The political equivalent should be done to these guys.
We got mass population thrown out of work and they're worried about this crap?
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Wading through your hate looking for a kernel of rationality to latch on to is exhausting @Chosen Daughter and I've reached my limit. Our interactions are over.
Truth hurts.
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When I was growing up toddlers throwing temper tantrums got their bare a** beat with a wooden spoon.
The political equivalent should be done to these guys.
We got mass population thrown out of work and they're worried about this crap?
FACTS.
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I'm still completely amazed that nobody has made the connection between the ecoli infected lettuce outbreaks an' the fact that the lettuce came from fields harvested by the invasive species that an open borders policy has inflicted upon us.
:pop41:
Correct. More than just lettuce. Cantaloupe. Watermelon. The migrants poop in the fields and pick the produce.
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6 minutes ago#18. MY OLD POST
President TRUMP has talked about this at every rally and press conference! First HE FOLLOWS THE LAWS!
second., CONGRESS WILL NOT CHANGE THE LAWS THAT HARM AMERICANS. So much for helping minorities, who now stab us in the back! IMMIGRATION LAWS that allow people from Africa, Asia,LATIN AMERICA, into America. THANK JFK, LBJ, TEDDY KENNEDY. NOW DEMON-RATS WON'T CHANGE LAWS.
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U.S. Immigration Since 1965. HISTORY.COM EDITORS
CONTENTS
Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965
Immediate Impact
Continuing Source of Debate
Immigration in the 21st Century
The Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965, also known as the Hart-Celler Act, abolished an earlier quota system based on national origin and established a new immigration policy based on reuniting immigrant families and attracting skilled labor to the United States. Over the next four decades, the policies put into effect in 1965 would greatly change the demographic makeup of the American population, as immigrants entering the United States under the new legislation came increasingly from countries in Asia, Africa and Latin America, as opposed to Europe.
Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965
By the early 1960s, calls to reform U.S. immigration policy had mounted, thanks in no small part to the growing strength of the civil rights movement. At the time, immigration was based on the national-origins quota system in place since the 1920s, under which each nationality was assigned a quota based on its representation in past U.S. census figures. The civil rights movement’s focus on equal treatment regardless of race or nationality led many to view the quota system as backward and discriminatory. In particular, Greeks, Poles, Portuguese and Italians–of whom increasing numbers were seeking to enter the U.S.–claimed that the quota system discriminated against them in favor of Northern Europeans.
President John F. Kennedy even took up the immigration reform cause, giving a speech in June 1963 calling the quota system “intolerable.â€
Did you know? A report in early 2009 by the DHS's Office of Immigration Statistics estimated the number of "unauthorized immigrants" in the United States at 10.7 million, down from 11.6 million in 2008. The recent decline in immigration coincided with the economic downturn in the U.S., but figures were still up from 2000, when illegal immigrants numbered some 8.5 million.
After Kennedy’s assassination that November, Congress began debating and would eventually pass the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965, co-sponsored by Representative Emanuel Celler of New York and Senator Philip Hart of Michigan and heavily supported by the late president’s brother,
Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts. During Congressional debates, a number of experts testified that little would effectively change under the reformed legislation, and it was seen more as a matter of principle to have a more open policy. Indeed, on signing the act into law in October 1965, President Lyndon B. Johnson stated that the act “is not a revolutionary bill. It does not affect the lives of millions….It will not reshape the structure of our daily lives or add importantly to either our wealth or our power.â€
Immediate Impact
In reality (and with the benefit of hindsight), the bill signed in 1965 marked a dramatic break with past immigration policy, and would have an immediate and lasting impact. In place of the national-origins quota system, the act provided for preferences to be made according to categories, such as relatives of U.S. citizens or permanent residents, those with skills deemed useful to the United States or refugees of violence or unrest. Though it abolished quotas per se, the system did place caps on per-country and total immigration, as well as caps on each category. As in the past, family reunification was a major goal, and the new immigration policy would increasingly allow entire families to uproot themselves from other countries and reestablish their lives in the U.S.
In the first five years after the bill’s passage, immigration to the U.S. from Asian countries–especially those fleeing war-torn Southeast Asia (Vietnam, Cambodia)–would more than quadruple. (Under past immigration policies, Asian immigrants had been effectively barred from entry.) Other Cold War-era conflicts during the 1960s and 1970s saw millions of people fleeing poverty or the hardships of communist regimes in Cuba, Eastern Europe and elsewhere to seek their fortune on American shores.
All told, in the three decades following passage of the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965, more than 18 million legal immigrants entered the United States, more than three times the number admitted over the preceding 30 years.
By the end of the 20th century, the policies put into effect by the Immigration Act of 1965 had greatly changed the face of the American population.
Whereas in the 1950s, more than half of all immigrants were Europeans and just 6 percent were Asians, by the 1990s only 16 percent were Europeans and 31 percent were of Asian descent, while the percentages of Latino and African immigrants had also jumped significantly. Between 1965 and 2000, the highest number of immigrants (4.3 million) to the U.S. came from Mexico, in addition to some 1.4 million from the Philippines. Korea, the Dominican Republic, India, Cuba and Vietnam were also leading sources of immigrants, each sending between 700,000 and 800,000 over this period.
Continuing Source of Debate
Throughout the 1980s and 1990s, illegal immigration was a constant source of political debate, as immigrants continue to pour into the United States, mostly by land routes through Canada and Mexico. The Immigration Reform Act in 1986 attempted to address the issue by providing better enforcement of immigration policies and creating more possibilities to seek legal immigration. The act included two amnesty programs for unauthorized aliens, and collectively granted amnesty to more than 3 million illegal aliens. Another piece of immigration legislation, the 1990 Immigration Act, modified and expanded the 1965 act, increasing the total level of immigration to 700,000. The law also provided for the admission of immigrants from “underrepresented†countries to increase the diversity of the immigrant flow.
The economic recession that hit the country in the early 1990s was accompanied by a resurgence of anti-immigrant feeling, including among lower-income Americans competing for jobs with immigrants willing to work for lower wages.
In 1996, Congress passed the Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act, which addressed border enforcement and the use of social programs by immigrants.
Immigration in the 21st Century
In the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, the Homeland Security Act of 2002 created the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), which took over many immigration service and enforcement functions formerly performed by the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS). With some modifications, the policies put into place by the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965 are the same ones governing U.S. immigration in the early 21st century. Non-citizens currently enter the United States lawfully in one of two ways, either by receiving either temporary (non-immigrant) admission or permanent (immigrant) admission. A member of the latter category is classified as a lawful permanent resident, and receives a green card granting them eligibility to work in the United States and to eventually apply for citizenship.
There could be perhaps no greater reflection of the impact of immigration than the 2008 election of Barack Obama, the son of a Kenyan father and an American mother. (from Kansas), as the nation’s first African-American president. Eighty-five percent white in 1965, the nation’s population was one-third minority in 2009 and is on track for a nonwhite majority by 2042.
What are you trying to say here? What it doesn't mention is that the country has created a tax id ITIN so that people can come here illegally and be rewarded.
https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/facts-about-individual-tax-identification-number-itin (https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/facts-about-individual-tax-identification-number-itin)
This was created in 1996 so that they could get illegal immigrants to pay taxes. They don't mention the benefits. Like mortgages, business loans, new cars...
This also does not cover H1/2B Visa's.
I am not sure why you posted this, but Trumps EO was about legal immigration.
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You are right @Fishrrman happy77
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsjLUS0Lt-8#)
That is hurting my eyes.
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When I was growing up toddlers throwing temper tantrums got their bare a** beat with a wooden spoon.
The political equivalent should be done to these guys.
We got mass population thrown out of work and they're worried about this crap?
Jeb Bush is married to Mexican woman, and their son looks like an illegal migrant. I can't get picture to post. (http://)
George P. Bush
George P. Bush by Gage Skidmore.jpg
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I have never believed his closed border rhetoric... It's that 'big beautiful door' that told the tale.
Can't say how many times I mentioned that before and after he was elected. Its really amazing how people try to pretend that it wasn't rhetoric. Even now with the EO. The immigrants are still coming in because he has exceptions. And if they are coming from Mexico they have a very high probability of bringing COVID.
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Correct. More than just lettuce. Cantaloupe. Watermelon. The migrants poop in the fields and pick the produce.
You should notify Trump then that you don't want poop on your vegetables. Nor should you want that invasive species harvesting with COVID. Because it is out of control in Mexico and Trump allowed them to come as an exception of his EO.
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When I was growing up toddlers throwing temper tantrums got their bare a** beat with a wooden spoon.
The political equivalent should be done to these guys.
We got mass population thrown out of work and they're worried about this crap?
:thumbsup:
We don't have the luxury of swimming in that shit filled crick anymore.
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Jeb Bush is married to Mexican woman, and their son looks like an illegal migrant. I can't get picture to post. (http://)
George P. Bush
George P. Bush by Gage Skidmore.jpg
Please don't disgrace yourself like that. My husband is Hispanic. I think you are very immature. How old are you?
And before I retire for the night I just want to say I don't like illegal immigration. But this country is made of many different ethnic backgrounds. I have said many times, and I mean it. We have to stop race politics. If people are American they are American.
Making it absolutely clear right now. I am against out of control H1/2 B and illegal immigration. I am not for chain migration. I think that everyone who wants to come to this country certainly should do it legally. But don't mistake me. I am not against legal immigration. And it is wrong to say someone looks like an illegal migrant because of their race.
The Hispanic Legacy in American History
Winter 2019
https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-now/journals/2019-02/hispanic-legacy-american-history (https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-now/journals/2019-02/hispanic-legacy-american-history)
And my kids are a beautiful mixture of Hispanic, native American, Swedish and Irish.
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Please don't disgrace yourself like that. My husband is Hispanic. I think you are very immature. How old are you?
And before I retire for the night I just want to say I don't like illegal immigration. But this country is made of many different ethnic backgrounds. I have said many times, and I mean it. We have to stop race politics. If people are American they are American.
Making it absolutely clear right now. I am against out of control H1/2 B and illegal immigration. I am not for chain migration. I think that everyone who wants to come to this country certainly should do it legally. But don't mistake me. I am not against legal immigration. And it is wrong to say someone looks like an illegal migrant because of their race.
goopo
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goopo
Thank you.
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Please don't disgrace yourself like that. My husband is Hispanic. I think you are very immature. How old are you?
And before I retire for the night I just want to say I don't like illegal immigration. But this country is made of many different ethnic backgrounds. I have said many times, and I mean it. We have to stop race politics. If people are American they are American.
Making it absolutely clear right now. I am against out of control H1/2 B and illegal immigration. I am not for chain migration. I think that everyone who wants to come to this country certainly should do it legally. But don't mistake me. I am not against legal immigration. And it is wrong to say someone looks like an illegal migrant because of their race.
The Hispanic Legacy in American History
Winter 2019
https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-now/journals/2019-02/hispanic-legacy-american-history (https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-now/journals/2019-02/hispanic-legacy-american-history)
And my kids are a beautiful mixture of Hispanic, native American, Swedish and Irish.
BUMP THAT!
So the hubby's still around dammit. *****rollingeyes*****
:beer: :patriot: :seeya:
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Please don't disgrace yourself like that. My husband is Hispanic. I think you are very immature. How old are you?
And before I retire for the night I just want to say I don't like illegal immigration. But this country is made of many different ethnic backgrounds. I have said many times, and I mean it. We have to stop race politics. If people are American they are American.
Making it absolutely clear right now. I am against out of control H1/2 B and illegal immigration. I am not for chain migration. I think that everyone who wants to come to this country certainly should do it legally. But don't mistake me. I am not against legal immigration. And it is wrong to say someone looks like an illegal migrant because of their race.
The Hispanic Legacy in American History
Winter 2019
https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-now/journals/2019-02/hispanic-legacy-american-history (https://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-now/journals/2019-02/hispanic-legacy-american-history)
And my kids are a beautiful mixture of Hispanic, native American, Swedish and Irish.
We have Americans of Hispanic background that have been in America, American Citizens, longer than many Anglo, Caucasian, White, European, however you want to describe them(ME). I agree with you(HOLY Smoke!) you can't judge someone on looks, even though I believe we are hard wired to as a defense mechanism. My parents came from Hungary and the 'Americans' in our neighborhoods denigrated and belittled them because they spoke a different language.......and maybe because they worked harder and owned their houses outright instead of buying their way into debt. I probably more than many have little sympathy for those that want to jump the line and those that support it because my parents had to wait for years in a country bombed out and raided by first the Germans and than the Russians leaving little food and no work.
If you speak to the Hispanics that followed the rules and waited their turn to immigrate legally you will find that they, as a whole detest the illegals.
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We have Americans of Hispanic background that have been in America, American Citizens, longer than many Anglo, Caucasian, White, European, however you want to describe them(ME). I agree with you(HOLY Smoke!) you can't judge someone on looks, even though I believe we are hard wired to as a defense mechanism. My parents came from Hungary and the 'Americans' in our neighborhoods denigrated and belittled them because they spoke a different language.......and maybe because they worked harder and owned their houses outright instead of buying their way into debt. I probably more than many have little sympathy for those that want to jump the line and those that support it because my parents had to wait for years in a country bombed out and raided by first the Germans and than the Russians leaving little food and no work.
If you speak to the Hispanics that followed the rules and waited their turn to immigrate legally you will find that they, as a whole detest the illegals.
Sing it, brother!
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I think the real point got missed here.
The reason the politicians use immigration as a "divide and conquer" tool is votes, nothing more.
Immigrants, legal and otherwise, come here to change the rules, not abide by them, and to obtain benefits they have not earned.
While it is true there have been other societies around for centuries before us, not just here, there has been little if any social or economic development or growth, hence the attraction to come to the US.
Bush is a globalist who does not believe in a national identity or national security.
I have no issue with immigration BUT they chose to come here, then live by our rules.
We are not obligated to adopt islam or may 5, not are we required to tolerate MS-13 because of "racism".
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Please don't disgrace yourself like that. My husband is Hispanic. I think you are very immature. How old are you?
And before I retire for the night I just want to say I don't like illegal immigration. But this country is made of many different ethnic backgrounds. I have said many times, and I mean it. We have to stop race politics. If people are American they are American.
Making it absolutely clear right now. I am against out of control H1/2 B and illegal immigration. I am not for chain migration. I think that everyone who wants to come to this country certainly should do it legally. But don't mistake me. I am not against legal immigration. And it is wrong to say someone looks like an illegal migrant because of their race.
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888high58888
A large portion of the US has Hispanic people whose ancestors were "here" when that territory became US territory. Similarly, the ancestors of some ethnic Chinese people in the US came to the US in the mid 19th Century. I probably had high school classmates of both sorts of family histories.
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Well, given that Bush did NOTHING to prevent 911 and tangled us into 3 wars we did not want to win, in his first term, IMO bush was a disaster all the way around...
@EdinVA
And let's not forget that there are STILL US service members being killed everyday due to the war he started to pump up his election chances and to please his Saudi love interest.
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We have Americans of Hispanic background that have been in America, American Citizens, longer than many Anglo, Caucasian, White, European, however you want to describe them(ME). I agree with you(HOLY Smoke!) you can't judge someone on looks, even though I believe we are hard wired to as a defense mechanism. My parents came from Hungary and the 'Americans' in our neighborhoods denigrated and belittled them because they spoke a different language.......and maybe because they worked harder and owned their houses outright instead of buying their way into debt. I probably more than many have little sympathy for those that want to jump the line and those that support it because my parents had to wait for years in a country bombed out and raided by first the Germans and than the Russians leaving little food and no work.
If you speak to the Hispanics that followed the rules and waited their turn to immigrate legally you will find that they, as a whole detest the illegals.
I know of which you speak @GtHawk
My Family was in Texas, establishing roots, 2 years before George Washington was even born.
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Jeb Bush is married to Mexican woman, and their son looks like an illegal migrant. I can't get picture to post. (http://)
George P. Bush
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@LegalAmerican
Jorge P is the Bush Crime Families best and last hope to keep their bills dipping into the US treasury and guide us to globalism with them in charge. They bought him an official office in Texas whose title I can't remember,but it has something to do with land titles,hoping that would give him a boost,but it doesn't seem to be working out.
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... But this country is made of many different ethnic backgrounds. I have said many times, and I mean it. We have to stop race politics. If people are American they are American.
The Hispanic Legacy in American History
Winter 2019
@Chosen Daughter
https://coffeeordie.com/medal-of-honor-roy-benavidez/
Prime example number 1,although Roy was actually a Yanqui Indian and not a Mexican.
He was also one of the nicest human beings you could ever hope to meet. Very soft-spoken and quiet,and I honestly can't remember meeting anyone that knew him that didn't like him,or even had an unkind thing to say. He was always smiling and always happy.
BTW,the actions described did NOT take plan in Loch Nihn,VN. All that happened across the border in Cambodia.
@LegalAmerican
BTW,I don't believe LegalAmerican meant that to be racist in any respect. He/she was just pointing out that Jeb married a foreign woman,and considering who he is,chances are he married a woman from Mexico to enhance the political future of his family. After all,they were already living in Texas by that time.
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Trump's married to an Immigrant too, @LegalAmerican
Apparently, there are some jobs, American Women just won't do.
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Trump's married to an Immigrant too, @LegalAmerican
Apparently, there are some jobs, American Women just won't do.
@corbe
BINGO!
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@EdinVA
And let's not forget that there are STILL US service members being killed everyday due to the war he started to pump up his election chances and to please his Saudi love interest.
@sneakypete
Yea, daddy bush tried that also...
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@sneakypete
Yea, daddy bush tried that also...
@EdinVA
The only good news in this mess is that I honestly believe the Bush Crime Family wore this one out. I suspect the next president that tries to get us involved in a foreign war to build up his election chances is going to find him/herself in a heap of trouble.
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With this additional 'hit piece' on GWB, in as many days, I'm still smelling the same $hit out of Trump's kitchen cabinet, it's disappointing, especially with Mark Meadows in charge, to continue this charade against GWB is ludicrous.
Sure glad Reagan ain't on yall's shit list.
(https://historymartinez.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/elvis-nixon.jpg)
It's gone beyond just Bizarre and now stepping into Surreal territory.
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BUMP THAT!
So the hubby's still around dammit. *****rollingeyes*****
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Yeah, but if I didn't have one I would be interested. ***blushing*** We have been married for 34 years! Hubby is a Trump fan, but he hasn't been interested for awhile now. Haven't heard him tune into Rush Limbaugh for weeks. Hasn't even tried to argue politics with me lately either. Its a good thing.
But I am thankful for our online friendship.
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@Chosen Daughter
Prime example number 1,although Roy was actually a Yanqui Indian and not a Mexican.
He was also one of the nicest human beings you could ever hope to meet. Very soft-spoken and quiet,and I honestly can't remember meeting anyone that knew him that didn't like him,or even had an unkind thing to say. He was always smiling and always happy.
BTW,the actions described did NOT take plan in Loch Nihn,VN. All that happened across the border in Cambodia.
@LegalAmerican
BTW,I don't believe LegalAmerican meant that to be racist in any respect. He/she was just pointing out that Jeb married a foreign woman,and considering who he is,chances are he married a woman from Mexico to enhance the political future of his family. After all,they were already living in Texas by that time.
Good post @sneakypete , Really nice. As for what @LegalAmerican meant we should have her tell us herself.
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Good post @sneakypete , Really nice. As for what @LegalAmerican meant we should have her tell us herself.
@Chosen Daughter
Well,if you can take it upon yourself to determine she meant it to be a racist statement,I can take it upon myself to determine she didn't.
Intent is both in the eye of the beholder,and the mind of the one that made the statement.
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But I am thankful for our online friendship.
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@Chosen Daughter
Well,if you can take it upon yourself to determine she meant it to be a racist statement,I can take it upon myself to determine she didn't.
Intent is both in the eye of the beholder,and the mind of the one that made the statement.
That is truth you can. To me words speak volumes and she has had an opportunity to clarify herself. So it is in the eye of the beholder. Its where Trump gets in trouble all the time. He pukes out words and doesn't like that people take them at face value. If you say it own it. If you see that it is offensive or can be taken not as you intended you should clarify.
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That is truth you can. To me words speak volumes and she has had an opportunity to clarify herself. So it is in the eye of the beholder. Its where Trump gets in trouble all the time. He pukes out words and doesn't like that people take them at face value. If you say it own it. If you see that it is offensive or can be taken not as you intended you should clarify.
Speaking only for myself, her comment rubbed me the wrong way, which is why I thought your response warranted a goopo
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Trump's married to an Immigrant too, @LegalAmerican
Apparently, there are some jobs, American Women just won't do.
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