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Title: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: libertybele on October 27, 2020, 11:23:55 pm
IF Biden wins, there will be absolutely no chance of reigning in our debt.  None.  It will skyrocket as never seen before.

Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans

Sen. Ted Cruz said the growing national debt is set to broadly re-emerge as an area of concern of Republicans down the road.

During an interview on "Axios on HBO" with political reporter Jonathan Swan, the Texas Republican discussed the budget deficit and the federal debt. The pair had an energetic back-and-forth on the matter, with Swan saying Republicans had approved spending policies that grew the deficit, like the 2017 tax cuts.

Cruz also claimed Trump never ran on cutting the debt, but the president campaigned in 2016 to eliminate it within eight years.....

Asked if the swelling debt and deficit will become an area of concern for the GOP, Cruz responded: "Sure."

"Isn't that the most cynical, phony thing?" Swan asked.

"You're touching into something that as you know I've raged against," Cruz replied. "I've raged against my own party not genuinely fighting to rein in spending and deficits and debt."............

https://www.businessinsider.com/ted-cruz-growing-national-debt-trump-major-gop-concern-deficit-2020-10 (https://www.businessinsider.com/ted-cruz-growing-national-debt-trump-major-gop-concern-deficit-2020-10)
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: DB on October 28, 2020, 12:06:14 am
They'll be all for reducing deficit spending - if they lose the senate.

When they are out of power they promise they'll reduce spending if they are given power.

And when given power they do the opposite of what they said they would do.

Same for border security. Same for Obamacare.

Been there over and over.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: LegalAmerican on October 28, 2020, 12:13:25 am
They'll be all for reducing deficit spending - if they lose the senate.

When they are out of power they promise they'll reduce spending if they are given power.

And when given power they do the opposite of what they said they would do.

Same for border security. Same for Obamacare.

Been there over and over.





Yup.  Ted Cruz is business as usual.  HE IS AN ATTORNEY.  Go after corrupt BIDEN, CLINTONS. Forget talking about the deficit.  It will be under control.......
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: LMAO on October 28, 2020, 01:00:16 am


. Forget talking about the deficit.  It will be under control.......

Really? How?

Neither Trump nor Biden are even mentioning it. In fact, should Trump get a second term, he will surpass BHO in adding to the debt.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: LegalAmerican on October 28, 2020, 01:08:42 am
Really? How?

Neither Trump nor Biden are even mentioning it. In fact, should Trump get a second term, he will surpass BHO in adding to the debt.

You have not been paying any attention have you?  And media certainly won't tell you.  Yes POTUS TRUMP has talked about  what money, is coming into our treasury.  Very short sighted of you.  We, now have a built up military, by TRUMP,  that BHO...decimated to 1915 standards and STILL ran up the deficit. We are receiving delinquent money from NATO.  We are receiving billions in tariffs from CHINA. We have new trade deals.  I can't spoon it all, to you.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: catfish1957 on October 28, 2020, 01:20:21 am


Yup.  Tee Cruz is business as usual.  HE IS AN ATTORNEY.  Go after corrupt BIDEN, CLINTONS. Forget talking about the deficit.  It will be under control.......

Forget about the deficit?  NO respectable conservative would ever say that.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: DB on October 28, 2020, 01:36:06 am


Yup.  Tee Cruz is business as usual.  HE IS AN ATTORNEY.  Go after corrupt BIDEN, CLINTONS. Forget talking about the deficit.  It will be under control.......

Ted Cruz was the only one to bring it up while the senate is still held by Republicans.

Kind of blows up your theory about Cruz.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: LMAO on October 28, 2020, 01:51:36 am
You have not been paying any attention have you?  And media certainly won't tell you.  Yes POTUS TRUMP has talked about  what money, is coming into our treasury.  Very short sighted of you.  We, now have a built up military, by TRUMP,  that BHO...decimated to 1915 standards and STILL ran up the deficit. We are receiving delinquent money from NATO.  We are receiving billions in tariffs from CHINA. We have new trade deals.  I can't spoon it all, to you.

You haven't looked at out debt for a while, have you?

I have a link to it in my tagline.

Both debt and deficits are rising...rapidly. Even before COVID
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: LegalAmerican on October 28, 2020, 04:44:08 am
Ted Cruz was the only one to bring it up while the senate is still held by Republicans.

Kind of blows up your theory about Cruz.

What theory?  I backed up your post.  lol.   My theory is, as an attorney, he needs to prosecute people.  We can't. ONLY ATTORNEYS CAN DO THAT.  HE NEEDS TO PROSECUTE.   PROFESSIONAL POLITICIAN.  Most are.

I said,:  Go after corrupt BIDEN, CLINTONS. Forget talking about the deficit.  It will be under control.......
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: LMAO on October 28, 2020, 05:43:59 am
What theory?  I backed up your post.  lol.   My theory is, as an attorney, he needs to prosecute people.  We can't. ONLY ATTORNEYS CAN DO THAT.  HE NEEDS TO PROSECUTE.   PROFESSIONAL POLITICIAN.  Most are.

I said,:  Go after corrupt BIDEN, CLINTONS. Forget talking about the deficit.  It will be under control.......

You know that Ted Cruz is a senator and not a district attorney or an attorney general, right?
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: LMAO on October 28, 2020, 03:15:50 pm
Forget talking about the deficit.  It will be under control.......

Define what “it will be under control” means without real spending cuts? Neither Trump or Biden are proposing any spending cuts and in fact both are promising to spend even more

 

Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: catfish1957 on October 28, 2020, 03:22:35 pm
Define what “it will be under control” means without real spending cuts? Neither Trump or Biden are proposing any spending cuts and in fact both are promising to spend even more

Watch these things pretty darned closely.  Never have been a gold bug, but with the deficit this side of $30T?  Continued mismanagment of our economy will have one of two consequences.  Wiemar type hyperinflation, or total unraveling of equities, bonds, real estate, ....  everything in a manner that will make 1929-1939 look like a cake walk.  The next 5 years will be critical on which way this thing goes.

In all the political goobly goop, what is actually real and important gets lost in the static.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: Fishrrman on October 28, 2020, 11:15:36 pm
From the article:
"IF Biden wins, there will be absolutely no chance of reigning in our debt.  None.  It will skyrocket as never seen before."

This isn't important to the democrat-communists.

Eventually, as they transition from "democrats" to socialists and finally to full-blown communism, the time will come when they simply renounce the debt.

Just. Like. That.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: Free Vulcan on October 29, 2020, 12:55:35 am
That ship has sailed.

We're just trying to keep it together as long as possible from here.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: LegalAmerican on October 29, 2020, 01:33:21 am
That ship has sailed.

We're just trying to keep it together as long as possible from here.


Like beating a dead house.   11513  It will be resolved.  Give it some time.  4 more years.   
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: Free Vulcan on October 29, 2020, 01:43:33 am

Like beating a dead house.   11513  It will be resolved.  Give it some time.  4 more years.

Any type of resolution will mean severe economic pain.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: roamer_1 on October 29, 2020, 02:09:25 am
Any type of resolution will mean severe economic pain.

Pain is the great teacher. The longer you avoid the ass-whippin, the worse it will be
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: Free Vulcan on October 29, 2020, 02:18:57 am
Pain is the great teacher. The longer you avoid the ass-whippin, the worse it will be

This one may finish us.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: jmyrlefuller on October 29, 2020, 02:31:18 am

Like beating a dead house.   11513  It will be resolved.  Give it some time.  4 more years.
Bull----. Stop making false promises you know full well your --- can't cash.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: roamer_1 on October 29, 2020, 02:57:31 am
This one may finish us.

Right. But it ain't getting any better. Drastic, draconian cuts in spending while paying the debt down (means relatively no cut in taxes) is what is needed. And it is needed right now. It was needed 20 years ago.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: Free Vulcan on October 29, 2020, 03:14:34 am
Right. But it ain't getting any better. Drastic, draconian cuts in spending while paying the debt down (means relatively no cut in taxes) is what is needed. And it is needed right now. It was needed 20 years ago.

Won't make a dent. We were too far gone before Obama even got out of office.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: roamer_1 on October 29, 2020, 03:25:03 am
Won't make a dent. We were too far gone before Obama even got out of office.

I dunno whether we are past the tipping point - That's a pretty dynamic subject. But we are dang close, and there is only two ways to find out... One of those is to keep spending till it tips over some time in the next half-decade or two, or to start being responsible and start paying it down. Guess which one I prefer.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: catfish1957 on October 29, 2020, 03:45:00 am

Like beating a dead house.   11513  It will be resolved.  Give it some time.  4 more years.

There are a few of us on here, who probably have a little better understanding of the intracacies of economics as it relates to government accumulated debt.  Your dead horse's resolution may come back in the form of hyper inflation, where your $100 bill might buy a loaf of bread.  Or in a manner where nothing outside of precious metals, land, and fungible items and services have any value what so ever.  If you think there is no tipping point, then you need to get off your skittle powered unicorn, and learn a little.   
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: Free Vulcan on October 29, 2020, 03:59:30 am
I dunno whether we are past the tipping point - That's a pretty dynamic subject. But we are dang close, and there is only two ways to find out... One of those is to keep spending till it tips over some time in the next half-decade or two, or to start being responsible and start paying it down. Guess which one I prefer.

It would take $1T in cuts just to balance the budget, another $1T just to start making a significant impact on the deficit.

Not saying that couldn't be done, but the economic impact would be significant.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: roamer_1 on October 29, 2020, 04:01:15 am
It would take $1T in cuts just to balance the budget, another $1T just to start making a significant impact on the deficit.

Not saying that couldn't be done, but the economic impact would be significant.

Yup. Tough sh*t, there it is. And that is what will have to happen right now, or we are doomed.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: christian on October 29, 2020, 04:09:16 am
We know Obama did massive spending and give aways to jihad nations and Communist, and Biden has his fingers in the pot.  We also know Obama gave an entire American Army to world jihad and left it in Iraq, for our enemies.  Not leaving out Obama severely cutting our military to the point of crippling it.  As America became very vulnerable to our world enemies, Obama was justified in thinking he had successfully crippled our military and could not restore the military to the point America could be safe and secure again.  President Trump restored our military, despite Obama's best efforts to make us defenseless.  The massive damage Obama inflicted was going to be expensive to undo.  Naturally Obama's dogs are infuriated that Obama's nefarious work was undone, but they can still attack President Trump for the cost required to undo the damage.  If their evil and wickedness doesn't work one way, they switch it to work it another way.  The devil's in the details and Satan finds today's minions (democrats)quite busy. :smokin: :smokin: :smokin:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: Free Vulcan on October 29, 2020, 04:14:15 am
Yup. Tough sh*t, there it is. And that is what will have to happen right now, or we are doomed.

The problem is most of our budget now is social programs. Which means cutting them cuts off income to alot of people, deserved or not.

Again, not saying that that can't be done, but there will be a great deal of economic and political fallout.

I couldn't tell you the total negative economic impact it would have, or how long the effect.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: roamer_1 on October 29, 2020, 04:15:33 am
We know Obama did massive spending and give aways to jihad nations and Communist, and Biden has his fingers in the pot.  We also know Obama gave an entire American Army to world jihad and left it in Iraq, for our enemies.  Not leaving out Obama severely cutting our military to the point of crippling it.  As America became very vulnerable to our world enemies, Obama was justified in thinking he had successfully crippled our military and could not restore the military to the point America could be safe and secure again.  President Trump restored our military, despite Obama's best efforts to make us defenseless.  The massive damage Obama inflicted was going to be expensive to undo.  Naturally Obama's dogs are infuriated that Obama's nefarious work was undone, but they can still attack President Trump for the cost required to undo the damage.  If their evil and wickedness doesn't work one way, they switch it to work it another way.  The devil's in the details and Satan finds today's minions (democrats)quite busy. :smokin: :smokin: :smokin:

You are nearing a spending rate TWICE Obummer's under Tumpy, so that's just bullcrap. I don't care who you are, if your problem is spending too much money, you don't fix that by spending more, not to mention DOUBLE.

Rule of holes applies. In spades.
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: christian on October 30, 2020, 04:30:20 am
Oh, you are so right roamer1, Trump shouldn't have restored our military to being capable of defending this Country, and when our enemies, esp China threatened us, you don't even have to tell me who you would blame for allowing America to be vulnerable and defenseless.
Play covert stooge with some body else !   :tongue2: 22222frying pan :tongue2:
Title: Re: Ted Cruz says the swelling national debt will re-emerge as a major concern for Republicans
Post by: roamer_1 on October 30, 2020, 04:32:45 am
Oh, you are so right roamer1, Trump shouldn't have restored our military to being capable of defending this Country, and when our enemies, esp China threatened us, you don't even have to tell me who you would blame for allowing America to be vulnerable and defenseless.
Play covert stooge with some body else !   :tongue2: 22222frying pan :tongue2:

That is a pittance against the FIFTEEN TRILLION FRIGGIN DOLLARS he has spent.