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Title: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: TomSea on April 25, 2018, 03:26:33 am
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Arizona special election: AP projects Lesko the winner
    By Emily Goodin
    John Verhovek
Apr 24, 2018,

Democrats and Republicans are watching the Arizona special election for signs of their political standing leading into the November midterms.

A Democratic loss by a single digit will be seen by that party as a "symbolic victory" and as evidence that enthusiasm remains strong. However, Republicans seeking to guard their deep-red stronghold worry that a loss could signal that their hold on the House of Representatives is in trouble.

Facing off tonight is Democrat and cancer research advocate Hiral Tiperneni against Republican former state senator Debbie Lesko.

Read more at: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/arizona-special-polls-open/story?id=54702869 (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/arizona-special-polls-open/story?id=54702869)

Lesko, the Republican won by about 53% to 47% per current projections. See NY Times, they say it's a conservative district, this was for Trent Franks' seat.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/04/24/us/elections/results-arizona-house-special-election.html?ribbon-ad-idx=2&src=trending&module=Ribbon&version=context&region=Header&action=click&contentCollection=Trending&pgtype=article&mtrref=www.nytimes.com&gwh=1B9BD9C3D8990D3DCB8B47F462848454&gwt=pay (https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/04/24/us/elections/results-arizona-house-special-election.html?ribbon-ad-idx=2&src=trending&module=Ribbon&version=context&region=Header&action=click&contentCollection=Trending&pgtype=article&mtrref=www.nytimes.com&gwh=1B9BD9C3D8990D3DCB8B47F462848454&gwt=pay)
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: edpc on April 25, 2018, 03:29:19 am
(https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/Nleag6XAvJF3yCT2h_prYw--~B/YXBwaWQ9eWlzZWFyY2g7Zmk9Zml0O2dlPTAwNjYwMDtncz0wMEEzMDA7aD00MDA7dz01MzM-/https://cldn0.fiverrcdn.com/fiverr/t_main1/gigs3/5938073/original/lesko_cap_2.jpg.cf.jpg)
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: endicom on April 25, 2018, 03:32:54 am
"It's a long way to Tipirneni"

Is Lesko a good guy? Bad guy? Arizona guy? Born a guy?

Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: TomSea on April 25, 2018, 03:34:14 am
Lesko, Debbie, former state senator... otherwise, I know little about her.
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: Frank Cannon on April 25, 2018, 03:45:52 am
Considering this was another district with a sex scandal, the GOP dodge a bullet here.
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: corbe on April 25, 2018, 03:49:02 am
   At this point, I think it's a safe assumption that Republicans are just as horny as Democrats and can no longer hide it.
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: Sanguine on April 25, 2018, 04:59:34 am
I understand that a 53% to 47% win in that district is pretty bad.  Should have been a bigger lead.
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: Frank Cannon on April 25, 2018, 05:01:33 am
I understand that a 53% to 47% win in that district is pretty bad.  Should have been a bigger lead.

What was the GOP candidate running on? Repealing Obamacare? They seem to be light on credible issues.
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: Sanguine on April 25, 2018, 05:10:56 am
What was the GOP candidate running on? Repealing Obamacare? They seem to be light on credible issues.

"I'm not a democrat"?  They are very light on issues.
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 25, 2018, 01:28:11 pm
I understand that a 53% to 47% win in that district is pretty bad.  Should have been a bigger lead.

Trump won the District by 20%, so this is being spun as a big loss by the Republicans.
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: edpc on April 25, 2018, 01:34:22 pm
It's ridiculous to compare vote spreads in a presidential election to a special election for a House seat.
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 25, 2018, 01:49:49 pm
It's ridiculous to compare vote spreads in a presidential election to a special election for a House seat.

Trent Frank always won by a lot, too.  I say, "A win's a win."  The Dems wasted a lot of $$$ in this race, and they're going to waste a lot more in AZ this Fall.
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: edpc on April 25, 2018, 02:12:20 pm
I say, "A win's a win."


It is.  I don’t think pundits are being honest by comparing results from Nov 2016 to this, or any other special election.  The name recognition and enthusiasm aren’t nearly the same.  Jones got his squeaker victory, but I expect he’ll get blown out by double digits in 2020.
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on April 25, 2018, 02:41:54 pm
Trent Frank always won by a lot, too.  I say, "A win's a win."  The Dems wasted a lot of $$$ in this race, and they're going to waste a lot more in AZ this Fall.
This is a win for the GOP no matter how the media sells it.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DboMI2FWsAAPR-e.jpg)
rat media really really wanted this one.
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: WingNot on April 25, 2018, 02:47:24 pm
This is a win for the GOP no matter how the media sells it.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DboMI2FWsAAPR-e.jpg)
rat media really really wanted this one.

Man I haven't seen faces look like that since ..well, since Nov 7 2017

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrpkxl4DXtk#)
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: Frank Cannon on April 25, 2018, 02:49:36 pm
The GOP had better sit down and come up with compelling reasons to vote for them. Reading through Debbies generic issues puts one into a coma....

http://debbieleskoforcongress.com/on-the-issues/ (http://debbieleskoforcongress.com/on-the-issues/)

Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: Sanguine on April 25, 2018, 02:57:26 pm
The GOP had better sit down and come up with compelling reasons to vote for them. Reading through Debbies generic issues puts one into a coma....

http://debbieleskoforcongress.com/on-the-issues/ (http://debbieleskoforcongress.com/on-the-issues/)

That is the problem for most GOP candidates.  What do they stand for?
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: corbe on April 25, 2018, 03:08:01 pm
Arizona GOP winner to join Freedom Caucus

By Scott Wong - 04/25/18 08:54 AM EDT


Rep.-elect Debbie Lesko, who narrowly won a special election in Arizona Tuesday night, is expected to join the House Freedom Caucus after she is sworn in, the conservative group’s leader, Chairman Mark Meadows (R-N.C.) told The Hill.

Both Meadows and former Freedom Caucus Chairman Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) endorsed Lesko in her GOP primary earlier this year. And the Freedom Fund, the super PAC aligned with the Freedom Caucus, contributed to her campaign during the primary.

“We felt she was the best candidate in the 8th district of Arizona. We look forward to having her join our ranks as a strong contributing member of the Freedom Caucus when she gets sworn in as a new member of Congress,” Meadows said in a Wednesday morning phone interview.

<..snip..>

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/384762-arizona-gop-winner-to-join-freedom-caucus (http://thehill.com/homenews/house/384762-arizona-gop-winner-to-join-freedom-caucus)
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: WingNot on April 25, 2018, 03:10:51 pm
Arizona GOP winner to join Freedom Caucus.

Swell.
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: Frank Cannon on April 25, 2018, 03:11:55 pm
Arizona GOP winner to join Freedom Caucus.

Swell.

Well. This is a bigger win than it first appeared.
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: Sanguine on April 25, 2018, 03:15:39 pm
Well. This is a bigger win than it first appeared.

Yes, indeed.
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 25, 2018, 03:34:11 pm
Arizona GOP winner to join Freedom Caucus.

Swell.

I think it's good news.
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: WingNot on April 25, 2018, 03:35:35 pm
Opps, I read it as Black Caucus.  My very bad.
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 25, 2018, 03:41:04 pm
Opps, I read it as Black Caucus.  My very bad.

Uhhhh, yeah!  If you're seen one caucus you're seen them all. 22222frying pan
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: WingNot on April 25, 2018, 03:45:16 pm
Uhhhh, yeah!  If you're seen one caucus you're seen them all. 22222frying pan


yeah yeah yeah!  lol
But does she wear a funny hat?
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: Frank Cannon on April 25, 2018, 03:46:28 pm
Opps, I read it as Black Caucus.  My very bad.

Even better! We need more white middle aged broads on the Black Caucus.
Title: Re: Arizona special election: AP projects (R) Lesko the winner
Post by: Emjay on April 25, 2018, 08:10:53 pm
What was the GOP candidate running on? Repealing Obamacare? They seem to be light on credible issues.

I know nothing about this particular GOP candidate but as far as I'm concerned any GOP candidate can just run on stopping the Democrat agenda.  There was an interesting article on Fox, which I believe, about how the Dem Part is trending left, or I should say even more left.

The Bernie Sanders program was popular with their typical base.

Here is a quote from the article: "As Democrats look ahead to the midterms and the 2020 presidential race, lawmakers and candidates are pushing the agenda even further to the left -- with bigger promises of sweeping government welfare programs ranging from guaranteed jobs to universal income.

Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., the standard-bearer for the party's left flank in 2016, once again is helping to lead the charge. He reportedly is set to announce a plan that will guarantee a $15-an-hour job -- and health-care benefits -- to every American “who wants or needs one.” The plan, first reported by The Washington Post, would fund hundreds of government projects such as “infrastructure, care giving, the environment, education and other goals.”
Sanders’ office said they have not yet done a cost estimate or devised how they would pay for the massive government commitment. A spokesman for Sanders did not respond to a request for more details from Fox News."