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Title: Dean: 'Incompetent' GOP Will 'Get Their Butts Kicked' in 2014 Midterms
Post by: mystery-ak on July 03, 2014, 01:05:45 am
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/07/02/Dean-Incompetent-GOP-Will-Get-Their-Butts-Kicked-in-2014-Midterms (http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/07/02/Dean-Incompetent-GOP-Will-Get-Their-Butts-Kicked-in-2014-Midterms)

 on Breitbart TV 2 Jul 2014, 2:17 PM PDT



On Wednesday’s “NOW w/Alex Wagner,” former Gov. Howard Dean (D-VT), the former chairman of the Democratic National Committee, attacked Republicans on Capitol Hill on multiple grounds, including on ethics and what he considered to be a do-nothing Congress.

Dean, however, made the extraordinary prediction this would come back to haunt the GOP as soon as this November’s midterms.

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“I just think the Republican Congress is incompetent,” Dean said. “They’re incompetent and they’re untrustworthy. We’re paying them. They are doing nothing. They might as well just go home. And you know, they did do something -- yesterday the Ethics Committee decided to make it easier to hide the taxpayer’s money you spend when you take a congressional trip. These guys need to go and I think they get their butts kicked in November. People are sick of this. They may like or may not like Barack Obama. There hasn't been a debate about policy, a serious debate about policy last six months or a year. And I think that the American people are just disgusted. I’m certainly disgusted with them. I question their patriotism, really. I mean, we’re paying them to do something and they are doing nothing.”

Later Dean added the demonstration in Murrieta, CA in which protestors blocked the transport of illegal immigrants from being detained locally was something that will resonate with Hispanic voters and cost Republicans additionally.

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“I think it's a disaster for the Republicans,” he added. “I think this big demonstration that they had blocking the immigrants from being detained at some center in California -- every Hispanic voter in America is watching that. And they know those aren't Democrats out there demonstrating. I think basically what happened in California under Pete Wilson is happening in the United States and I actually think it's irreversible. If that gets the turnout out in the congressional election, do have a shot at taking both the House and the Senate.”
Title: Re: Dean: 'Incompetent' GOP Will 'Get Their Butts Kicked' in 2014 Midterms
Post by: Chieftain on July 03, 2014, 01:11:14 am
Howard who??

 :smokin:
Title: Re: Dean: 'Incompetent' GOP Will 'Get Their Butts Kicked' in 2014 Midterms
Post by: Oceander on July 03, 2014, 01:26:18 am
with the anti-"amnesty" crowd in full hue and cry he may be a little too close to the mark.
Title: Re: Dean: 'Incompetent' GOP Will 'Get Their Butts Kicked' in 2014 Midterms
Post by: sinkspur on July 03, 2014, 01:34:51 am
with the anti-"amnesty" crowd in full hue and cry he may be a little too close to the mark.

Nah.  He's nuts.  Democrats are going to get their butts kicked and lose the Senate.

You think average Americans like having their country overrun with children who are being sent here, knowing they'll never leave?

This is going to blow up in Obama's and the Democrat's faces.
Title: Re: Dean: 'Incompetent' GOP Will 'Get Their Butts Kicked' in 2014 Midterms
Post by: Oceander on July 03, 2014, 01:36:39 am
Nah.  He's nuts.  Democrats are going to get their butts kicked and lose the Senate.

You think average Americans like having their country overrun with children who are being sent here, knowing they'll never leave?

This is going to blow up in Obama's and the Democrat's faces.

Not if the GOP succeeds in driving enough hispanic and other non-anglo voters into the democrats' arms, and getting the democrats' traditional base amped up.  Sure there will be some democrat losses in November, but they'll be less than they would be without the anti-immigrant hysteria.
Title: Re: Dean: 'Incompetent' GOP Will 'Get Their Butts Kicked' in 2014 Midterms
Post by: sinkspur on July 03, 2014, 01:40:46 am
Not if the GOP succeeds in driving enough hispanic and other non-anglo voters into the democrats' arms, and getting the democrats' traditional base amped up.  Sure there will be some democrat losses in November, but they'll be less than they would be without the anti-immigrant hysteria.

So, you think Americans should just welcome these kids with open arms, and pass the Senate reform bill and the Hispanics will, all of a sudden, love the GOP?

The GOP is not doing anything right now.  This is Obama's problem:  it's because of him these kids are coming here, and 60% of the country blames him for it. 

Democrats are amped up about a lot of stuff these days:  immigration reform, Hobby Lobby, minimum wage.  They just don't vote in mid-terms.
Title: Re: Dean: 'Incompetent' GOP Will 'Get Their Butts Kicked' in 2014 Midterms
Post by: Oceander on July 03, 2014, 01:45:07 am
So, you think Americans should just welcome these kids with open arms, and pass the Senate reform bill and the Hispanics will, all of a sudden, love the GOP?

The GOP is not doing anything right now.  This is Obama's problem:  it's because of him these kids are coming here, and 60% of the country blames him for it. 

Democrats are amped up about a lot of stuff these days:  immigration reform, Hobby Lobby, minimum wage.  They just don't vote in mid-terms.


I don't, and I don't appreciate you putting false words in my mouth.  Dealing with the realities of life is not the same thing as being a "path to citizenship" door-mat, and the realities of immigration and sensible reform are complicated.  Anti-immigrant zealotry could mean the difference between a Senate controlled by the republicans and a Senate controlled by the democrats.
Title: Re: Dean: 'Incompetent' GOP Will 'Get Their Butts Kicked' in 2014 Midterms
Post by: speekinout on July 03, 2014, 01:46:54 am
Not if the GOP succeeds in driving enough hispanic and other non-anglo voters into the democrats' arms, and getting the democrats' traditional base amped up.  Sure there will be some democrat losses in November, but they'll be less than they would be without the anti-immigrant hysteria.

There's a big danger for the dims in the immigration battle. These illegal minors are bringing new and somewhat scary medical problems with them - scabies, swine flu, drug resistant tb, dengue fever, etc. - and if those spread, esp. in schools, then anti-immigrant hysteria will be the winning issue of the day.
Title: Re: Dean: 'Incompetent' GOP Will 'Get Their Butts Kicked' in 2014 Midterms
Post by: alicewonders on July 03, 2014, 02:08:53 am
There's a big danger for the dims in the immigration battle. These illegal minors are bringing new and somewhat scary medical problems with them - scabies, swine flu, drug resistant tb, dengue fever, etc. - and if those spread, esp. in schools, then anti-immigrant hysteria will be the winning issue of the day.

I think it's pretty obvious that this whole children flooding our borders thing was strategerized by the Democrats to help them in the fall elections.  They were advertising for contractor bids to accompany unaccompanied illegal children back in January and now it appears that the Baptist Family and Children's Services won the bid.  (What kind of Baptist group would call themselves "Brown Shirts? - I think it's a fake name for a bunch of SEIU thugs, another way to funnel money.)

Anyway, this whole thing was planned to make the Republicans look awful and cruel - not to mention "unchristian" - to certain demographic and low-information voters.  I think it's going to blow up in their faces though.  They've gone too far, even for them!
Title: Re: Dean: 'Incompetent' GOP Will 'Get Their Butts Kicked' in 2014 Midterms
Post by: speekinout on July 03, 2014, 02:34:04 am
I think it's pretty obvious that this whole children flooding our borders thing was strategerized by the Democrats to help them in the fall elections.  They were advertising for contractor bids to accompany unaccompanied illegal children back in January and now it appears that the Baptist Family and Children's Services won the bid.  (What kind of Baptist group would call themselves "Brown Shirts? - I think it's a fake name for a bunch of SEIU thugs, another way to funnel money.)

Anyway, this whole thing was planned to make the Republicans look awful and cruel - not to mention "unchristian" - to certain demographic and low-information voters.  I think it's going to blow up in their faces though.  They've gone too far, even for them!

I thought the same thing about the BFCS, so I looked them up. It looks like a legitimate group, and the brown shirts name is just because their "enforcement team" wears khaki shirts. So unless someone finds something better, I accept that they are a legitimate organization.

And, yes, it was indeed all set up to make the GOP look cruel. But I agree that it is going to backfire. The medical problems look like the first thing to explode. Parents are not going to like having their children exposed to new and difficult to cure diseases. If the GOP had anyone smart, they'd start talking about how they were trying to protect our American children.
But then, I'm dreaming if I think a Republican can be good at public relations.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Dean: 'Incompetent' GOP Will 'Get Their Butts Kicked' in 2014 Midterms
Post by: Oceander on July 03, 2014, 02:42:50 am
I think it's pretty obvious that this whole children flooding our borders thing was strategerized by the Democrats to help them in the fall elections.  They were advertising for contractor bids to accompany unaccompanied illegal children back in January and now it appears that the Baptist Family and Children's Services won the bid.  (What kind of Baptist group would call themselves "Brown Shirts? - I think it's a fake name for a bunch of SEIU thugs, another way to funnel money.)

Anyway, this whole thing was planned to make the Republicans look awful and cruel - not to mention "unchristian" - to certain demographic and low-information voters.  I think it's going to blow up in their faces though.  They've gone too far, even for them!

I agree with the set-up, I'm less sanguine on the blowing up part.  Never underestimate the ignorance of the lo-info American.
Title: Re: Dean: 'Incompetent' GOP Will 'Get Their Butts Kicked' in 2014 Midterms
Post by: alicewonders on July 03, 2014, 02:45:18 am
I thought the same thing about the BFCS, so I looked them up. It looks like a legitimate group, and the brown shirts name is just because their "enforcement team" wears khaki shirts. So unless someone finds something better, I accept that they are a legitimate organization.

And, yes, it was indeed all set up to make the GOP look cruel. But I agree that it is going to backfire. The medical problems look like the first thing to explode. Parents are not going to like having their children exposed to new and difficult to cure diseases. If the GOP had anyone smart, they'd start talking about how they were trying to protect our American children.
But then, I'm dreaming if I think a Republican can be good at public relations.  :shrug:

Yeah.  I don't think they thought out the medical aspect of these children being infested with parasites and infectious diseases. 

Agree about the GOP, they're too busy cowering in the corner, afraid they will appear "racist" if they try to stop this.     
Title: Re: Dean: 'Incompetent' GOP Will 'Get Their Butts Kicked' in 2014 Midterms
Post by: alicewonders on July 03, 2014, 02:55:30 am
I agree with the set-up, I'm less sanguine on the blowing up part.  Never underestimate the ignorance of the lo-info American.

True, I've come to expect the worst.  It gave me hope when I heard about the protesters that stopped a bus loaded with these children before they could be brought into their city.  It only makes sense that a community would want to protect their own citizens from being exposed to diseases and parasites that previously were not a problem. 

The key is local.  People in these states and communities have got to fight it like those people did.  At some point, even if Federal law does supercede local laws - at some point, the government goes too far and must be stopped. 
Title: Re: Dean: 'Incompetent' GOP Will 'Get Their Butts Kicked' in 2014 Midterms
Post by: jmyrlefuller on July 03, 2014, 02:58:47 am
"Not only is Ms. Shaheen going to win New Hampshire, Alex Wagner, we're going to South Carolina, and Oklahoma, and Arizona, and North Dakota, and New Mexico... we're going to California, and Texas, and New York, we're going to South Dakota, and Oregon, and Washington, and MICHIGAN! And then we're going to Washington, DC to take back the House of Representatives... YEAAAAGH!"

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Dean: 'Incompetent' GOP Will 'Get Their Butts Kicked' in 2014 Midterms
Post by: alicewonders on July 03, 2014, 03:10:04 am
"Not only is Ms. Shaheen going to win New Hampshire, Alex Wagner, we're going to South Carolina, and Oklahoma, and Arizona, and North Dakota, and New Mexico... we're going to California, and Texas, and New York, we're going to South Dakota, and Oregon, and Washington, and MICHIGAN! And then we're going to Washington, DC to take back the House of Representatives... YEAAAAGH!"

 :laugh:

Thank you Myrle, for giving me the opportunity to post this - it's one of my favorites:

(http://www.blackcatantiques.com/howarddeankitten.jpg)  :silly: :silly: :silly:
Title: Re: Dean: 'Incompetent' GOP Will 'Get Their Butts Kicked' in 2014 Midterms
Post by: Atomic Cow on July 03, 2014, 03:45:51 am
Anyway, this whole thing was planned to make the Republicans look awful and cruel - not to mention "unchristian" - to certain demographic and low-information voters.  I think it's going to blow up in their faces though.  They've gone too far, even for them!

I've noticed online that every lib suddenly have become big "christians" and talking about how we Republicans are unchristian because we don't want these "poor children" or "poor, but good immigrants" to be given better lives in the US.  The talking points have clearly gone out.
Title: Re: Dean: 'Incompetent' GOP Will 'Get Their Butts Kicked' in 2014 Midterms
Post by: alicewonders on July 03, 2014, 03:49:18 am
I've noticed online that every lib suddenly have become big "christians" and talking about how we Republicans are unchristian because we don't want these "poor children" or "poor, but good immigrants" to be given better lives in the US.  The talking points have clearly gone out.

Four more months until the election.  I wonder what other "strategies" they have cooked up?
Title: Re: Dean: 'Incompetent' GOP Will 'Get Their Butts Kicked' in 2014 Midterms
Post by: Atomic Cow on July 03, 2014, 03:54:15 am
Four more months until the election.  I wonder what other "strategies" they have cooked up?

Just more of the same, with just new variations.

-War on women
-Racism
-Class warfare
-Racism
-Koch Brothers
-Racism
-War on Women
-Homosexual something or another
-Racism
-Immigration (tied into class warfare, war on women, and racism)
-And of course, more racism
Title: Re: Dean: 'Incompetent' GOP Will 'Get Their Butts Kicked' in 2014 Midterms
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on July 03, 2014, 09:47:51 pm
Just more of the same, with just new variations.

-War on women
-Racism
-Class warfare
-Racism
-Koch Brothers
-Racism
-War on Women
-Homosexual something or another
-Racism
-Immigration (tied into class warfare, war on women, and racism)
-And of course, more racism

Add in "do nothing Congress."
Title: Re: Dean: 'Incompetent' GOP Will 'Get Their Butts Kicked' in 2014 Midterms
Post by: GourmetDan on July 03, 2014, 09:58:29 pm

Dean has made a nice living telling the faithful what they want to hear regardless of what the truth is.

Don't expect that to change anytime soon...