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Title: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: mountaineer on December 05, 2023, 02:57:49 pm
JUST IN: Gov. Ron DeSantis proposes cutting more than 1,000 government jobs in Florida as part of new budget

"We are also gonna be reducing the size of government [...] That's gonna help us realign resources to focus on efficiency."
https://twitter.com/FLVoiceNews/status/1732045403733025167
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DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Florida's Voice News (https://flvoicenews.com/desantis-unveils-budget-to-cut-government-jobs-bolster-education-debt-repayment/)
By Amber Jo Cooper
Published Dec. 5, 2023, 9:50 a.m. ET | Updated Dec. 5, 2023

MARCO ISLAND, Fla. – Gov. Ron DeSantis held a press conference Tuesday to unveil the $114.4 billion “Focus on Florida’s Future” budget for 2024-2025.

The upcoming budget is less than the previous year, DeSantis said. Last year, the Framework for Freedom Budget totaled $116.5 billion.

The governor said his budget would induce a surplus of $16.3 billion.

DeSantis said the amount always ends up higher, because “the economy here does better than in other parts of the country.”

Under the budget, $455 million would be pledged to the Accelerated Debt Repayment Program.

Over 1,000 positions will be eliminated throughout the state government to “help us realign resources to focus on efficiency,” the governor said.  ...
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: catfish1957 on December 05, 2023, 03:03:10 pm
Governing philosphy that this country needs.

Too bad we are stuck with the Orange Menace.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: GtHawk on December 05, 2023, 04:52:32 pm
Governing philosphy that this country needs.

Too bad we are stuck with the Orange Menace.
Shouldn't that be the Orange Mendacious?
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: GtHawk on December 05, 2023, 04:54:57 pm
Can't wait for governor Noisome to boast how much better he is doing with his plan for California :silly: Problem is one governor is trying to better his state and the other is doing his utmost to destroy his state **nononono*
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: catfish1957 on December 05, 2023, 04:58:58 pm
Can't wait for governor Noisome to boast how much better he is doing with his plan for California :silly: Problem is one governor is trying to better his state and the other is doing his utmost to destroy his state **nononono*

Hope those initial  "Deer in Headlight" moments of having to respond to Hannity debate graphics are kept in archive for perpetuity.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on December 05, 2023, 05:59:14 pm
Tangerine Mussolini will cut the Federal Budget by replacing the Federal Government with the "Trump Organization".
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Hoodat on December 05, 2023, 06:15:35 pm
Cutting back on the size of government?  That's crazy talk.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: libertybele on December 05, 2023, 06:21:32 pm
Cutting back on the size of government?  That's crazy talk.

...hmmm.... exactly what is needed.  Go Ron!   :patriot:
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: mountaineer on December 05, 2023, 07:01:18 pm
Cutting back on the size of government?  That's crazy talk.
Yeah. Sounds like something a true conservative would do. Go figure.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: catfish1957 on December 05, 2023, 07:08:32 pm
Yeah. Sounds like something a true conservative would do. Go figure.

No way....  DCP says there are only 5 of us conservatives left.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: GtHawk on December 05, 2023, 11:06:36 pm
Of course everyone knows that DeSantis just copied the Orange Donny's plan for the Fed, that Ron guy must have spies in the trump campaign to come out with it first :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly:
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: libertybele on December 06, 2023, 07:24:29 pm
Of course everyone knows that DeSantis just copied the Orange Donny's plan for the Fed, that Ron guy must have spies in the trump campaign to come out with it first :silly: :silly: :silly: :silly:

Why anyone would select Trump over DeSantis is beyond me. What it truly boils down to is opting for a liberal who is proposing socialist plans or opting for a true fiscal conservative with a proven conservative record. 
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: sneakypete on December 06, 2023, 10:28:41 pm
Why anyone would select Trump over DeSantis is beyond me. What it truly boils down to is opting for a liberal who is proposing socialist plans or opting for a true fiscal conservative with a proven conservative record.

@libertybele

ROFLMAO!
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: roamer_1 on December 06, 2023, 10:36:36 pm
Why anyone would select Trump over DeSantis is beyond me. What it truly boils down to is opting for a liberal who is proposing socialist plans or opting for a true fiscal conservative with a proven conservative record.

STUNNINGLY Conservative! Watch Florida bloom!
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: sneakypete on December 06, 2023, 10:56:32 pm
STUNNINGLY Conservative! Watch Florida bloom!

@roamer_1

Ain't you a little old to still be believing in Santa?

Especially a Santa that is a braying jackass?
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: libertybele on December 06, 2023, 11:01:55 pm
STUNNINGLY Conservative! Watch Florida bloom!

Florida has seen a tremendous population boom; over 1,000,000 moved here in 2022.

Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: roamer_1 on December 06, 2023, 11:10:51 pm
@roamer_1

Ain't you a little old to still be believing in Santa?

Nope. I don't believe in Santa.

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Especially a Santa that is a braying jackass?


You mean Tumpy? That's why I won't vote for him ever!
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: roamer_1 on December 06, 2023, 11:11:49 pm
Florida has seen a tremendous population boom; over 1,000,000 moved here in 2022.

THere has to be a reason... So do we trust the Magats, or our own lying eyes?
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: corbe on December 06, 2023, 11:13:39 pm
    Most of US realized Santa was a Myth at a very early age @sneakypete  which still doesn't explain why Adults in this very Forum still believe in him because they changed the color of his skin to Orange.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Hoodat on December 07, 2023, 01:07:13 am
Nope. I don't believe in Santa.

Hush yo' mouth!  Santa is real!
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: LMAO on December 08, 2023, 01:37:50 am
Why anyone would select Trump over DeSantis is beyond me.

Because for most of Trump's base, it's all emotional. It's a desire to use the arm of the federal government to enact retribution on their opponents. They want nothing more than a "verbal bomb thrower." They just want to "own the libs."

Reducing the size of government and cutting spending are conservative positions. MAGAs want more spending and printing regardless of the consequences as long as the money is spent on them and not the brown people
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: LMAO on December 08, 2023, 01:52:15 am
@libertybele

ROFLMAO!

Why don't you point out her errors instead of ROFLMAO
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: sneakypete on December 08, 2023, 03:22:38 am
Because for most of Trump's base, it's all emotional.

@LMAO

That's hilarious coming from someone who spends most of his free time dumping on Trump.

Drama Queen much,bubba?
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: sneakypete on December 08, 2023, 03:23:42 am
Why don't you point out her errors instead of ROFLMAO

@LMAO

Because  nobody  is paying me to  be her babysitter.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: LMAO on December 08, 2023, 04:14:18 am
@LMAO

Because  nobody  is paying me to  be her babysitter.

You responded to her post
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: LMAO on December 08, 2023, 01:45:53 pm
@LMAO

That's hilarious coming from someone who spends most of his free time dumping on Trump.

Drama Queen much,bubba?

This is conservatism.  It isn’t throwing out verbal bombs at opponents, it isn’t using the power of government for retaliation against opponents, it isnt Freedom cities and baby bonuses and God only knows what more spending, it isn’t seizing private funds from private endowments to expand government role in education, it isn’t printing currency to pay for new spending and claim that the US government can never default because we can print.

No, the above is all your boy. That’s why your only response to people here is to laugh and somehow claim they bet in Santa when it’s obvious you do. Your love and support for Trump is based purely on emotion. Your posts give you away. What the hell does “ he only cares how he’s written about in the history books” even mean?

That is all
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: sneakypete on December 08, 2023, 09:31:38 pm
You responded to her post

@LMAO


@LMAO 

And in  YOUR world that means I am obligated to her?

YOU responded to MY post,so drop down and give me 10 pushups!
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: sneakypete on December 08, 2023, 09:34:53 pm
This is conservatism.  It isn’t throwing out verbal bombs at opponents, it isn’t using the power of government for retaliation against opponents, it isnt Freedom cities and baby bonuses and God only knows what more spending, it isn’t seizing private funds from private endowments to expand government role in education, it isn’t printing currency to pay for new spending and claim that the US government can never default because we can print.

No, the above is all your boy. That’s why your only response to people here is to laugh and somehow claim they bet in Santa when it’s obvious you do. Your love and support for Trump is based purely on emotion. Your posts give you away. What the hell does “ he only cares how he’s written about in the history books” even mean?


@LMAO

If you are THAT freaking stupid,it would be a waste of my time to even try.
 
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: libertybele on December 08, 2023, 09:37:05 pm
Nothing like ruining a perfectly good thread with childish rants.  It's tiresome and petty.

Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: GtHawk on December 08, 2023, 09:55:10 pm
Nothing like ruining a perfectly good thread with childish rants.  It's tiresome and petty.
Considering who they idolize I would say the old "apple doesn't fall far from the tree" is appropriate. All they have are feelings and try to hold on to all the great things Trump did...and got erased because he's a bomb thrower who doesn't play well with others. So they ridicule someone who actually knows and understands how government works, builds coalitions and gets actual laws passed to achieve his goals, laws that will stand after he is out of office. They seem to be so angry because unlike the Orange Mouth of Anger, DeSantis is an actual conservative looking to cut the size of government and spending in his state while all Trump wants to is spend our children's children's children into to a life of servitude to big government..........and this is different from democrats how?
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: LMAO on December 09, 2023, 12:27:32 am

@LMAO

If you are THAT freaking stupid,it would be a waste of my time to even try.

Boom!! Just as I suspected. You don't even know what that means  :rolling:
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: libertybele on December 09, 2023, 01:10:20 am
Considering who they idolize I would say the old "apple doesn't fall far from the tree" is appropriate. All they have are feelings and try to hold on to all the great things Trump did...and got erased because he's a bomb thrower who doesn't play well with others. So they ridicule someone who actually knows and understands how government works, builds coalitions and gets actual laws passed to achieve his goals, laws that will stand after he is out of office. They seem to be so angry because unlike the Orange Mouth of Anger, DeSantis is an actual conservative looking to cut the size of government and spending in his state while all Trump wants to is spend our children's children's children into to a life of servitude to big government..........and this is different from democrats how?

Excellent post and so true!  888high58888
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: mountaineer on December 09, 2023, 03:46:41 pm
James Woods
@RealJamesWoods
Maybe you all should stop attacking Ron DeSantis with ridiculous accusations about his stance and his shoes and the rest of the nonsense and applaud a man who actually gets shit done in his own state and would likely do the right thing for our nation. We all know Trump will most certainly be our Republican nominee and DeSantis his VP running mate. Why are you all participating in the Democrats' dirty tricks playbook? If we don't pull together as a party and defeat the socialist jihad of the left, this nation is done. Wake up.
2:53 AM · Dec 9, 2023

 :shrug:
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: corbe on December 09, 2023, 03:55:16 pm
   I have to disagree Mr. Woods. Ron DeSantis is not Mike Pence stupid enough to hitch his wagon to a burnt out star~Trump.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: catfish1957 on December 09, 2023, 04:16:57 pm
   I have to disagree Mr. Woods. Ron DeSantis is not Mike Pence stupid enough to hitch his wagon to a burnt out star~Trump.

EXACTLY!!!!

Tying your wagon to DJT is political suicide.  As evidenced of all the bodies strewn 3000 mies from his cabinet to advisors.  Trump viewed his presidency. as an episoode of the Apprentice and hired and fired like it was a game.

Run Ron Run?   No not to the orange meance as a VPOTUS flunky......   Disassocate yourself 100% for your own good.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: mountaineer on December 09, 2023, 04:19:42 pm
   I have to disagree Mr. Woods. Ron DeSantis is not Mike Pence stupid enough to hitch his wagon to a burnt out star~Trump.
Yeah, it's hard to imagine.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: catfish1957 on December 09, 2023, 04:24:35 pm
Yeah, it's hard to imagine.

In '16 Cruz would have been a good logical choice to counter Trump's centalist populism,  but after the 10 millionth Lyin' Ted Meme.......

Same for DeSantis.  I am certain Trump will be an idiot, and only will pick someone who wil only suck up to his bullshit.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Hoodat on December 09, 2023, 05:51:23 pm
James Woods
@RealJamesWoods
.  .  . Why are you all participating in the Democrats' dirty tricks playbook? If we don't pull together as a party and defeat the socialist jihad of the left, this nation is done. Wake up.
2:53 AM · Dec 9, 2023


Uh, maybe the reason they are participating in the Democrats' dirty tricks playbook is because they are backing a Democrat.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Hoodat on December 09, 2023, 05:53:02 pm
In '16 Cruz would have been a good logical choice to counter Trump's centalist populism,  but after the 10 millionth Lyin' Ted Meme.......

And almost eight years later, not a single one of them can point out anything that Ted Cruz lied about.  Not a single one.  It is they who are the liars.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: roamer_1 on December 09, 2023, 06:30:03 pm
Run Ron Run?   No not to the orange meance as a VPOTUS flunky......   Disassocate yourself 100% for your own good.

Cruz lost so much stature in my mind, when he caved in and started following Tumpy. How he gets that back remains to be seen. I don't want to have to say the same about DeSantis.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: corbe on December 09, 2023, 06:33:14 pm
   When Cruz quit fighting Trump's Budgets and started voting for them, he lost me.  I didn't even vote for his reelection.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: catfish1957 on December 09, 2023, 06:34:40 pm
Cruz lost so much stature in my mind, when he caved in and started following Tumpy. How he gets that back remains to be seen. I don't want to have to say the same about DeSantis.

Got to agree with you 100%.  Before the Trump presidency, our hope he was a conservative firebrand.  But like so many others, he sold out, just to get a seat at the kiddie table.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: roamer_1 on December 09, 2023, 06:37:10 pm
Got to agree with you 100%.  Before the Trump presidency, our hope he was a conservative firebrand.  But like so many others, he sold out, just to get a seat at the kiddie table.

Exactly.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: catfish1957 on December 09, 2023, 06:37:24 pm
Cruz lost so much stature in my mind, when he caved in and started following Tumpy. How he gets that back remains to be seen. I don't want to have to say the same about DeSantis.
Got to agree with you 100%.  Before the Trump presidency, our hope he was a conservative firebrand.  But like so many others, he sold out, just to get a seat at the kiddie table.

My hope is RDS, will lay low, and be much stronger after Trump gets resoundedly bounced in 2024.  Like the earlier poster said.  I just don't see anyway of him reaching 50%.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 09, 2023, 06:43:03 pm
Governing philosphy that this country needs

What are Ron's proposals for the federal budget?
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: catfish1957 on December 09, 2023, 06:45:52 pm
What are Ron's proposals for the federal budget?

GFY....  You've dodged at least 5-7 of the questions, I've asked you the past month.  You deserve no response.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: roamer_1 on December 09, 2023, 06:50:00 pm
Got to agree with you 100%.  Before the Trump presidency, our hope he was a conservative firebrand.  But like so many others, he sold out, just to get a seat at the kiddie table.

My hope is RDS, will lay low, and be much stronger after Trump gets resoundedly bounced in 2024.  Like the earlier poster said.  I just don't see anyway of him reaching 50%.

Me neither, though not as sure of that as you. Things are SO shitty, and Buydem SO unpopular that the 'lesser evil' maxim could very easily apply... But I think his legal woes will likely overcome his campaign... He's got a helluva lot of plates in the air, under oath, and guarding his words and telling the truth are both very, very hard for Tumpy to do.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: catfish1957 on December 09, 2023, 07:00:54 pm
Me neither, though not as sure of that as you. Things are SO shitty, and Buydem SO unpopular that the 'lesser evil' maxim could very easily apply... But I think his legal woes will likely overcome his campaign... He's got a helluva lot of plates in the air, under oath, and guarding his words and telling the truth are both very, very hard for Tumpy to do.

Don't forget....   The MSM is so criminally complicit in the dim column, that while Rome burns, they are reporting on the happy wienier roast. And since so much of the sheeple rely on them....... 
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Hoodat on December 09, 2023, 07:01:12 pm
What are Ron's proposals for the federal budget?

-  advance an ambitious tax and regulatory reform agenda to unleash American production, increase productivity and growth, and support our families, workers, and small businesses while lowering inflation.
 -  reverse Biden's job-crippling and ideological regulations and executive orders on Day One.
 -  work to not only extend the individual tax rates and further simplify the tax code, but also seek permanence.
 -  seek a more competitive tax system that incentivizes long-term, domestic investment over financial speculation and short-term returns while purging the code of K Street carveouts and loopholes.
 -  seek to make permanent full immediate expensing, maintain territoriality, and further strengthen base erosion measures to ensure corporations are investing in America.
 -  use all available Article II authority to restore accountability in the executive branch, move agencies out of DC and slash the bureaucratic state, restrict foreign lobbying and post-employment revolving doors by former government officials, and ban individual stock trading by members of Congress and executive branch officials.
 -  reverse the federal government's attempt to force people to buy electric vehicles. We will save the American automobile.
Ending Environmental, Social, and Governance Standards and Political Engineering by Large Investors
 -  strengthen rules governing fiduciary responsibilities, transparency requirements, and scrutiny of firms that manage public pension funds.
Restoring Merit and Respect for the Individual as the Central Criteria for Economic Advancement
 -  no longer incentivize useless degrees and courses with blanket government loans. To that end, he will make universities, not taxpayers, responsible for the loans their students accrue. He will also seek to allow student loans to be discharged through bankruptcy like any other loan.
 -  create a fair labor market by securing the border, enforcing our laws, eliminating chain migration and the diversity visa lottery, and limiting unskilled immigration.
 -  appoint a Chairman of the Federal Reserve who will focus on maintaining a stable dollar instead of the political pressures of the day. The Fed must focus on stable prices; it is not a social engineer and cannot be allowed to be an unaccountable economic central planner.
 -  ensure that the Federal Reserve does not implement a central bank digital currency to control the finances of hardworking Americans.  -  block any attempts to establish a Central Bank Digital Currency or any other policies that will move us closer to a social credit system.
Where Washington has sought to regulate and inhibit innovation such as Bitcoin and other new technologies,  -  protect entrepreneurship from central planners who seek to stifle what they cannot control.
 -  require "clear language" disclosures by banks and shadow banks to increase transparency and better track systemic risks.
 -  support community and regional banks that bolster the economic front lines of main street America
 -  protect cryptocurrencies and work to end politically driven debanking and financial doxing.
 -  be a new sheriff in town when it comes to spending, and he will not be afraid of using his veto pen. Our government programs as they exist today are wrought with waste, fraud, and abuse, and continue to be a major drag on our economy, our budget, and the flourishing of our citizens.
 -  use his Article II authority to prohibit federal grants to entities that engage in active discrimination through DEI or other unconstitutional initiatives.
 -

So what are Trump's?  Oh, never mind.  We already know.  His proposal is to spend spend spend like Biden.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Hoodat on December 09, 2023, 07:03:10 pm
GFY....  You've dodged at least 5-7 of the questions, I've asked you the past month.  You deserve no response.

It's hard to defend the indefensible.  But no response?  It means only one thing - an utter lack of integrity.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: catfish1957 on December 09, 2023, 07:03:58 pm


So what are Trump's?  Oh, never mind.  We already know.  His proposal is to spend spend spend like Biden.

You are kinder than I am.  Her 24/7 deflection and avoidance of addressing any of the left wing Trump issues?  From my POV, I'd just as soon ignore her.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Hoodat on December 09, 2023, 07:14:14 pm
You are kinder than I am.  Her 24/7 deflection and avoidance of addressing any of the left wing Trump issues?  From my POV, I'd just as soon ignore her.

I have a difficult time allowing lies to go unchallenged.  Same goes for left-wing rhetoric posted on Conservative forums.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Sighlass on December 09, 2023, 07:14:51 pm
Cruz lost so much stature in my mind, when he caved in and started following Tumpy. How he gets that back remains to be seen. I don't want to have to say the same about DeSantis.

Same here... Trump lied about his family, wife, kids... how could you support such a dog and rationalize it as "just politics".
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: catfish1957 on December 09, 2023, 07:34:15 pm
Same here... Trump lied about his family, wife, kids... how could you support such a dog and rationalize it as "just politics".

Tump was democrat not that long ago.  Why is anyone surprised?

(https://www.liberationnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/trump_clinton-1.jpg)
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: libertybele on December 09, 2023, 07:50:43 pm
Cruz lost so much stature in my mind, when he caved in and started following Tumpy. How he gets that back remains to be seen. I don't want to have to say the same about DeSantis.

IMHO Cruz voted for Trump for one reason and one reason only (per the Glenn Beck interview and Beck was livid) and that was to ensure that conservatives justices. were seated in SCOTUS. Supposedly Cruz met with Trump and Trump gave him a list of possible candidates.  That is one reason I voted for Trump and the other reason was to ensure the Hillary didn't secure the presidency, nor did she get to decide the justices.

After Trump was elected Cruz supported him on issues that he felt were for the good of the country.  Cruz urged Trump to build the wall several times; Trump ignored Cruz's advice, not only on that issue but others.

I like Cruz and still support him, though I still agree with him that we need term limits, which would probably force him to step down.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: roamer_1 on December 09, 2023, 07:52:08 pm
Don't forget....   The MSM is so criminally complicit in the dim column, that while Rome burns, they are reporting on the happy wienier roast. And since so much of the sheeple rely on them.......

But that has already been shaken... Starting with Limbaugh. Their attempts at censorship aside, huge cracks have already formed in the propaganda machine.  And a clarion shout rises in dissent.  But I agree with the sentiment, surely I do.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: libertybele on December 09, 2023, 07:52:18 pm
Tump was democrat not that long ago.  Why is anyone surprised?

(https://www.liberationnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/trump_clinton-1.jpg)

It's his NY values that were instilled in him that I have a problem with.  He's a liberal.  He did display a lot of patriotism and some conservatism and had this country headed in the right direction, unfortunately his policies didn't stick.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: roamer_1 on December 09, 2023, 07:54:17 pm
-  advance an ambitious tax and regulatory reform agenda to unleash American production, increase productivity and growth, and support our families, workers, and small businesses while lowering inflation.
 -  reverse Biden's job-crippling and ideological regulations and executive orders on Day One.
 -  work to not only extend the individual tax rates and further simplify the tax code, but also seek permanence.
 -  seek a more competitive tax system that incentivizes long-term, domestic investment over financial speculation and short-term returns while purging the code of K Street carveouts and loopholes.
 -  seek to make permanent full immediate expensing, maintain territoriality, and further strengthen base erosion measures to ensure corporations are investing in America.
 -  use all available Article II authority to restore accountability in the executive branch, move agencies out of DC and slash the bureaucratic state, restrict foreign lobbying and post-employment revolving doors by former government officials, and ban individual stock trading by members of Congress and executive branch officials.
 -  reverse the federal government's attempt to force people to buy electric vehicles. We will save the American automobile.
Ending Environmental, Social, and Governance Standards and Political Engineering by Large Investors
 -  strengthen rules governing fiduciary responsibilities, transparency requirements, and scrutiny of firms that manage public pension funds.
Restoring Merit and Respect for the Individual as the Central Criteria for Economic Advancement
 -  no longer incentivize useless degrees and courses with blanket government loans. To that end, he will make universities, not taxpayers, responsible for the loans their students accrue. He will also seek to allow student loans to be discharged through bankruptcy like any other loan.
 -  create a fair labor market by securing the border, enforcing our laws, eliminating chain migration and the diversity visa lottery, and limiting unskilled immigration.
 -  appoint a Chairman of the Federal Reserve who will focus on maintaining a stable dollar instead of the political pressures of the day. The Fed must focus on stable prices; it is not a social engineer and cannot be allowed to be an unaccountable economic central planner.
 -  ensure that the Federal Reserve does not implement a central bank digital currency to control the finances of hardworking Americans.  -  block any attempts to establish a Central Bank Digital Currency or any other policies that will move us closer to a social credit system.
Where Washington has sought to regulate and inhibit innovation such as Bitcoin and other new technologies,  -  protect entrepreneurship from central planners who seek to stifle what they cannot control.
 -  require "clear language" disclosures by banks and shadow banks to increase transparency and better track systemic risks.
 -  support community and regional banks that bolster the economic front lines of main street America
 -  protect cryptocurrencies and work to end politically driven debanking and financial doxing.
 -  be a new sheriff in town when it comes to spending, and he will not be afraid of using his veto pen. Our government programs as they exist today are wrought with waste, fraud, and abuse, and continue to be a major drag on our economy, our budget, and the flourishing of our citizens.
 -  use his Article II authority to prohibit federal grants to entities that engage in active discrimination through DEI or other unconstitutional initiatives.
 -

So what are Trump's?  Oh, never mind.  We already know.  His proposal is to spend spend spend like Biden.

He, heh, heh. SWEET. Now I can vote for that... ideologically speaking...  :beer:
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: catfish1957 on December 09, 2023, 08:00:56 pm
He, heh, heh. SWEET. Now I can vote for that... ideologically speaking...  :beer:

Wow, an hour has passed and RIV still has her tail between her legs without a response.   I guess the bat signal from the Freeper Mother Ship most be slower than usual .

Special props to @Hoodat for that "drop the mic" moment.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: roamer_1 on December 09, 2023, 08:02:04 pm
IMHO Cruz voted for Trump for one reason and one reason only (per the Glenn Beck interview and Beck was livid) and that was to ensure that conservatives justices. were seated in SCOTUS. Supposedly Cruz met with Trump and Trump gave him a list of possible candidates.  That is one reason I voted for Trump and the other reason was to ensure the Hillary didn't secure the presidency, nor did she get to decide the justices.

After Trump was elected Cruz supported him on issues that he felt were for the good of the country.  Cruz urged Trump to build the wall several times; Trump ignored Cruz's advice, not only on that issue but others.

I like Cruz and still support him, though I still agree with him that we need term limits, which would probably force him to step down.

Nope. Don't buy it. Look how Cruz voted on the stimulus packages. He twisted his thinking somehow during that campaign, and his votes show it.

Look, you could probably still talk me into voting for him. He knows the Right way. But like Pence (governorship), it's now questionable that he will stand fast and deliver.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: roamer_1 on December 09, 2023, 08:07:30 pm
Wow, an hour has passed and RIV still has her tail between her legs without a response.   I guess the bat signal from the Freeper Mother Ship most be slower than usual .

Special props to @Hoodat for that "drop the mic" moment.

There ain't a dang thing wrong with DeSantis' agenda. That was my point... and it IS a mic drop moment, because at least in spirit, it is inarguable.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: sneakypete on December 09, 2023, 09:25:43 pm
And almost eight years later, not a single one of them can point out anything that Ted Cruz lied about.  Not a single one.  It is they who are the liars.

@Hoodat

Has he ever came out and claimed he is a hetrosexual?
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: sneakypete on December 09, 2023, 09:29:19 pm
Tump was democrat not that long ago.  Why is anyone surprised?

(https://www.liberationnews.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/trump_clinton-1.jpg)

@catfish1957

You can't possibly be THAT stupid.

Back then Trump was a businessman living in NYC and his focus was on making money. The Dims held the reigns to government contracts and laws,so he went with the "team" that would bring him the most profits.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: catfish1957 on December 09, 2023, 09:31:32 pm
@catfish1957

You can't possibly be THAT stupid.

Back then Trump was a businessman living in NYC and his focus was on making money. The Dims held the reigns to government contracts and laws,so he went with the "team" that would bring him the most profits.

Prove the photo didn't happen numbnuts.

And that Tumpy wasn't a democrat as late as the ;90's.  Otherwise GFY
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: sneakypete on December 09, 2023, 09:58:05 pm
Prove the photo didn't happen numbnuts.

And that Tumpy wasn't a democrat as late as the ;90's.  Otherwise GFY

@catfish1957

You GFU,dumb ass.

Buy you books,send you to schools,and you are still a border-line retard who is unable to reason.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: GtHawk on December 09, 2023, 10:34:29 pm
What are Ron's proposals for the federal budget?
Well we all know Trumps, spend our rear ends into oblivion **nononono*
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Hoodat on December 09, 2023, 10:35:25 pm
And that Tumpy wasn't a democrat as late as the ;90's.

It went way past that.  In 2010, he gave $10k to the New York Democrat Party.  He gave $5,800 to Kristen Gillibrand, $3,000 to Chuck Schumer, and $2,000 to Anthony Weiner.  In 2011, he gave $5,000 to Kamala Harris and another $1,000 in 2013.  In 2020, $1,000 each to Mark Kelly and John Hickenlooper.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: GtHawk on December 09, 2023, 10:38:57 pm
@Hoodat

Has he ever came out and claimed he is a hetrosexual?
JeeezUS what a lame grade school response, I guess that's to be expected considering the source **nononono*
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: GtHawk on December 09, 2023, 10:41:07 pm
@catfish1957

You can't possibly be THAT stupid.

Back then Trump was a businessman living in NYC and his focus was on making money. The Dims held the reigns to government contracts and laws,so he went with the "team" that would bring him the most profits.
You sure spend a lot of time defending some A-Hole you claim you wouldn't even invite in your house :silly: :silly: :silly:
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: GtHawk on December 09, 2023, 10:41:59 pm
@catfish1957

You GFU,dumb ass.

Buy you books,send you to schools,and you are still a border-line retard who is unable to reason.
So you got nuthin  :silly: :silly: :silly:
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: catfish1957 on December 09, 2023, 10:43:35 pm
You sure spend a lot of time defending some A-Hole you claim you wouldn't even invite in your house :silly: :silly: :silly:

Sometimes I have to consider who I am talking to, and take that in account. The poor guy has had a tough life, and sometimes my empathy meter drops a tad lower than I should allow it to.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: libertybele on December 09, 2023, 10:46:25 pm
What are Ron's proposals for the federal budget?

It's quite lengthy @Right_in_Virginia  BTW -- besides spending us into oblivion again what is Trump's proposal for the federal budget. DeSantis has a proven track record ... and Trump has a track record as well.

https://rondesantis.com/mission/Declaration-of-economic-independence/
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: catfish1957 on December 09, 2023, 10:47:49 pm
https://rondesantis.com/mission/Declaration-of-economic-independence/

Poor RIV, she's had a tough day.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: sneakypete on December 09, 2023, 11:06:40 pm
You sure spend a lot of time defending some A-Hole you claim you wouldn't even invite in your house :silly: :silly: :silly:

@GtHawk

I know none of you DeSanctimonious groupies have a hard time understanding not lusting after a candidate,but SOME of us put the future well-being of America ahead of personal biases.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: sneakypete on December 09, 2023, 11:07:34 pm
So you got nuthin  :silly: :silly: :silly:

@GtHawk

You have even less.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 09, 2023, 11:11:59 pm
It's quite lengthy @Right_in_Virginia  BTW -- besides spending us into oblivion again what is Trump's proposal for the federal budget. DeSantis has a proven track record ... and Trump has a track record as well.

https://rondesantis.com/mission/Declaration-of-economic-independence/

I've seen this.  I was wondering if you had.  Lots of words.  The only hint of substance is plagerized from Trump.  Why would any rational voter wager our economic security on DeSantis ---  who repeatedly tells us he'll need eight years ---- to attemp to do what Trump did and will do again in a matter of weeks?

(https://rondesantis.com/static/9cbb5c16b96e5607f32b5112b7c5426a/f2191/DECLARATION_OF_ECON_INDEPENDENCE_WIDE_35f74c1f34.webp)
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 09, 2023, 11:15:32 pm
Poor RIV, she's had a tough day.

Actually, judging by the fury and personal attacks thrown at me all over the place today, I've had a pretty successful day ---- and it was easy.  :laugh:




Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: GtHawk on December 10, 2023, 12:36:13 am
@GtHawk

You have even less.
odd how it's still more than you and the great orange orifice :tongue2:
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: corbe on December 10, 2023, 12:55:23 am
   I was a slow learner. It used to take me years to get out of Abusive relationships but if someone slapped me around for four years, I'd give it up, even ME @ 70!

   I don't understand these Trumpers.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: libertybele on December 10, 2023, 01:14:39 am
I've seen this.  I was wondering if you had.  Lots of words.  The only hint of substance is plagerized from Trump.  Why would any rational voter wager our economic security on DeSantis ---  who repeatedly tells us he'll need eight years ---- to attemp to do what Trump did and will do again in a matter of weeks?

(https://rondesantis.com/static/9cbb5c16b96e5607f32b5112b7c5426a/f2191/DECLARATION_OF_ECON_INDEPENDENCE_WIDE_35f74c1f34.webp)

????  As far as DeSantis plagerizing Trump, where do you come up with this crappola??  :silly:

One big difference between DeSantis and Trump;  DeSantis is competent and will get things done. Trump, well, very few of his economic policies stuck.

I'll take DeSantis and his accomplishments and competency over Trump's failures any day.  happy77
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: corbe on December 10, 2023, 01:19:20 am
???? I posted it.  As far as DeSantis plagerizing Trump, where do you come up with this crappola??  :silly:


    My bet @libertybele  would be Trump Socialist, TOS or ConservativeNutHouse or some such.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: LMAO on December 10, 2023, 01:37:56 am
Actually, judging by the fury and personal attacks thrown at me all over the place today, I've had a pretty successful day ---- and it was easy.  :laugh:

You were called out for another falsehood

Most people don't wear that as a badge of honor
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: LMAO on December 10, 2023, 01:40:11 am
????  As far as DeSantis plagerizing Trump, where do you come up with this crappola??  :silly:

One big difference between DeSantis and Trump;  DeSantis is competent and will get things done. Trump, well, very few of his economic policies stuck.

I'll take DeSantis and his accomplishments and competency over Trump's failures any day.  happy77

Eight. nine and ten are far from Trump policies. Trump attempted to pressure the Federal Reserve to go to zero or negative rates on his watch which punishes savers. Although DeSantis should be more specific what he means by "reigning in"

Trump supported bailouts. Even bragged about having to bailout farmers devastated by his tariffs

As far as spending, the record is obvious
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Hoodat on December 10, 2023, 04:34:06 pm
What are Ron's proposals for the federal budget?

@Right_in_Virginia - That question has been answered.  Now it's your turn.  Again, what are Trump's proposals for the federal budget?
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: corbe on December 10, 2023, 04:40:56 pm
   Trump's Fiscal policy, print more money!

(https://gifdb.com/images/file/little-rascals-throwing-money-out-dighrdw1v0cevrjl.gif)
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 10, 2023, 05:02:49 pm
@Right_in_Virginia - That question has been answered.  Now it's your turn.  Again, what are Trump's proposals for the federal budget?

For heaven's sake,  give your senile debating skills a rest.    I posted Trump's economic plans months ago. 
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 10, 2023, 05:06:26 pm
????  As far as DeSantis plagerizing Trump, where do you come up with this crappola??  :

I know how to read.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 10, 2023, 05:07:38 pm
@GtHawk

You have even less.

 :thumbsup:  @sneakypete
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Hoodat on December 10, 2023, 05:13:40 pm
For heaven's sake,  give your senile debating skills a rest.    I posted Trump's economic plans months ago.

So in other words, you don't know.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: sneakypete on December 10, 2023, 05:47:30 pm
odd how it's still more than you and the great orange orifice :tongue2:

@GtHawk

You just keep telling yourself that if it what gets you through the day,bubba.

After all,some people still believe in Santa,so why can't YOU believe in "dey do ron,ron" after her made YOUR heart stand still?
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: GtHawk on December 10, 2023, 06:07:24 pm
@GtHawk

You just keep telling yourself that if it what gets you through the day,bubba.

After all,some people still believe in Santa,so why can't YOU believe in "dey do ron,ron" after her made YOUR heart stand still?
All you have is insults for anyone that doesn't kiss the huge hiney of the Orange Orifice, just like him it's denigrate denigrate denigrate, and just like him it's old, tiresome and juvenile  :pondering: maybe that's what attracts to the Orange Orifice :shrug:
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: sneakypete on December 10, 2023, 06:13:28 pm
All you have is insults for anyone that doesn't kiss the huge hiney of the Orange Orifice, just like him it's denigrate denigrate denigrate, and just like him it's old, tiresome and juvenile  :pondering: maybe that's what attracts to the Orange Orifice :shrug:

@GtHawk

Insults is all anybody that supports that conniving cretin deserves.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: LMAO on December 10, 2023, 06:16:24 pm
   Trump's Fiscal policy, print more money!

(https://gifdb.com/images/file/little-rascals-throwing-money-out-dighrdw1v0cevrjl.gif)

Trump, like Sanders and AOC, believe in Modern Monetary Theory. The idea is the US can print currency to cover spending because we control our own currency

Of course, you see the results of that throughout history and even our recent history with both Trump and Biden

Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Hoodat on December 10, 2023, 06:16:42 pm
@GtHawk

Insults is all anybody that supports that conniving cretin deserves.

Trump?
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: sneakypete on December 10, 2023, 06:18:30 pm
Trump?

@Hoodat

Trump lives rent-free in your head 24/7,doesn't he?

Rude Orange Man is skeery,huh?
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Hoodat on December 10, 2023, 06:19:15 pm
Trump, like Sanders and AOC, believe in Modern Monetary Theory. The idea is the US can print currency to cover spending because we control our own currency

Of course, you see the results of that throughout history and even our recent history with both Trump and Biden

Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

(https://i.insider.com/57fce9c18109ee58008b4e9a)
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: LMAO on December 10, 2023, 06:20:08 pm
I would like to hear what RDS means by “reigning in the Fed.”  Hopefully it means something different than Obama and Trump
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Hoodat on December 10, 2023, 06:20:13 pm
@Hoodat

Trump lives rent-free in your head 24/7,doesn't he?

Rude Orange Man is skeery,huh?

You were the one who called him a "conniving cretin".
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: LMAO on December 10, 2023, 06:21:26 pm
@Hoodat

Trump lives rent-free in your head 24/7,doesn't he?

Rude Orange Man is skeery,huh?

What’s “skeery” is not his color but many of his proposals
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Hoodat on December 10, 2023, 06:23:31 pm
I would like to hear what RDS means by “reigning in the Fed.”  Hopefully it means something different than Obama and Trump

Remind me who was the idiot President who put Jerome Powell in charge?  Powell has implemented by far the loosest monetary policy in the entire history of the Federal Reserve.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: LMAO on December 10, 2023, 06:28:47 pm
Remind me who was the idiot President who put Jerome Powell in charge?  Powell has implemented by far the loosest monetary policy in the entire history of the Federal Reserve.

And we are paying for it

This is all stuff  that’s above the MAGA’s  head. Right now, the only reason they can really give for  voting for Donald Trump is their own emotional satisfaction.

They don’t grasp that printing trillions of dollars to cover massive deficit spending and throwing that in the economy causes inflation, stifle economic growth, and lower the standard of living of the American people

There is a possibility that Trump could be elected and pursue a more sane economic and fiscal policy and prove us naysayers wrong. If that happens, I’ll gladly admit my error. But from what I’ve been hearing, I’m confident and I’ll be proven right
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: GtHawk on December 10, 2023, 06:30:12 pm
Trump?
He walked into that one  :silly:
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Hoodat on December 10, 2023, 08:20:04 pm
For heaven's sake,  give your senile debating skills a rest.    I posted Trump's economic plans months ago.

@Right_in_Virginia
You specifically said "federal budget".  So what is Trump's proposal for the federal budget?  And before you post another lie about posting it months ago, let me help you out with what the official Trump Campaign website says.  In short, he doesn't have one.  No mention of the federal budget.  Only more proposals for additional federal spending and higher costs for American consumers.

So don't you find it egregiously hypocritical to snidely ask about DeSantis' proposals on the federal budget when you clearly don't care anything about your own preferred candidate having his own "federal budget" proposal?
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: sneakypete on December 11, 2023, 12:16:45 am
You were the one who called him a "conniving cretin".

@Hoodat

Really? When was that supposed to have happened?

I have no doubt that I may have said that about DeSanctimonious ,though.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Hoodat on December 11, 2023, 12:35:14 am
@Hoodat

Really? When was that supposed to have happened?

Here:  https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,518943.msg2947154.html#msg2947154
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: sneakypete on December 11, 2023, 01:28:45 pm
Here:  https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,518943.msg2947154.html#msg2947154

@Hoodat

"@GtHawk

Insults is all anybody that supports that conniving cretin deserves."

"That conniving cretin" that "only deserves insults" that I was CLEARLY  referring to is DeSanctimonious,but you  knew that and created a lie to cover your previous lie,didn't  you?

No wonder you  support Dey  Do Run,Run. Birds of a feather,and all that.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: LMAO on December 11, 2023, 02:07:51 pm
@Right_in_Virginia
You specifically said "federal budget".  So what is Trump's proposal for the federal budget?  And before you post another lie about posting it months ago, let me help you out with what the official Trump Campaign website says.  In short, he doesn't have one.  No mention of the federal budget.  Only more proposals for additional federal spending and higher costs for American consumers.

So don't you find it egregiously hypocritical to snidely ask about DeSantis' proposals on the federal budget when you clearly don't care anything about your own preferred candidate having his own "federal budget" proposal?

To hell with budgets

There’s money to be handed out to his supporters. Who cares about the economic consequences as long as his base get the checks
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: catfish1957 on December 11, 2023, 02:20:11 pm
To hell with budgets

There’s money to be handed out to his supporters. Who cares about the economic consequences as long as his base get the checks

My favorite of all, is the Tumpers just can't explain away Trump's Freedom City initiatives that from best account will add somewhere in the $15T in additional debt.  I've heard whoppers like, "It's campaign rhetoric, he didn't mean it", or   "It's just to energize his base".  The absolute truth is that have no defense....  And they damned well know it.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: LMAO on December 11, 2023, 02:41:12 pm
My favorite of all, is the Tumpers just can't explain away Trump's Freedom City initiatives that from best account will add somewhere in the $15T in additional debt.  I've heard whoppers like, "It's campaign rhetoric, he didn't mean it", or   "It's just to energize his base".  The absolute truth is that have no defense....  And they damned well know it.

What DeSantis is doing with the budget in Florida is as conservative as you can get. Look at the responses to this from two of Trump’s own sycophants.

I know it’s the primary season, but I wish Ron DeSantis would emphasize more of the fiscal and economic issues. We can’t afford any more Obama/Trump/Biden fiscal and monetary policy. It isn’t nowhere near enough for Ron DeSantis to be simply against woke politics.

Many of us conservatives predicted inflation would smack us when Donald Trump shut down the economy and signed on to trillions and trillions of printed dollars being thrown it into the economy. Then throw Joe Biden‘s fiscal and energy policy on top of that.

Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Hoodat on December 11, 2023, 06:47:10 pm
@Hoodat

"@GtHawk

Insults is all anybody that supports that conniving cretin deserves."

"That conniving cretin" that "only deserves insults" that I was CLEARLY  referring to is DeSanctimonious,but you  knew that and created a lie to cover your previous lie,didn't  you?

Uh, no.  The discussion you responded to was about Donald Trump.  DeSantis' name wasn't mentioned.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: GtHawk on December 11, 2023, 08:30:30 pm
Uh, no.  The discussion you responded to was about Donald Trump.  DeSantis' name wasn't mentioned.
It's hilarious that it's so confusing when he says "conniving cretin" because that makes me immediately think of Trump :silly: :silly: :silly:
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: sneakypete on December 12, 2023, 12:15:39 am
Uh, no.  The discussion you responded to was about Donald Trump.  DeSantis' name wasn't mentioned.

Bullshit.

He was probably accurately referred to as "DeSanctimonious" or "Day do ron,ron" or some other tag,but he WAS mentioned.

But you already knew that,didn't you?
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Hoodat on December 12, 2023, 01:15:53 am
Bullshit.

He was probably accurately referred to as "DeSanctimonious" or "Day do ron,ron" or some other tag,but he WAS mentioned.

But you already knew that,didn't you?

This is what I saw:

All you have is insults for anyone that doesn't kiss the huge hiney of the Orange Orifice, just like him it's denigrate denigrate denigrate, and just like him it's old, tiresome and juvenile  :pondering: maybe that's what attracts to the Orange Orifice :shrug:

@GtHawk

Insults is all anybody that supports that conniving cretin deserves.

I assumed you were talking about the Orange Orifice.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: corbe on December 12, 2023, 01:25:56 am
  I know yall think of me as a Stoner, a forgetful person of low intelligence (as I was called today)  wink777  BUT I can still remember when @sneakypete didn't particularly like Trump. 

  Sure, we all change~ it's a given with the passage of Time. So, here is some year of the Cat.


Al Stewart - Year Of The Cat (Lyrics)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UuD3wUcRUY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UuD3wUcRUY)

 I promised @Gefn
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Hoodat on December 12, 2023, 01:32:13 am
And here's "Won't Get Fooled Again"

  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jtb10ZwbReY)
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: LMAO on December 12, 2023, 01:38:06 am
  I know yall think of me as a Stoner, a forgetful person of low intelligence (as I was called today)  wink777  BUT I can still remember when @sneakypete didn't particularly like Trump. 

  Sure, we all change~ it's a given with the passage of Time. So, here is some year of the Cat.


Al Stewart - Year Of The Cat (Lyrics)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UuD3wUcRUY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UuD3wUcRUY)

 I promised @Gefn

Haven’t you heard?

He doesn’t like Donald Trump. We all know that’s bullshit but if he likes Donald Trump that’s OK. But don’t tell people that he doesn’t like Trump, but then every time someone’s critical of Trump attack that person on a personal level.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: corbe on December 12, 2023, 01:44:15 am
    Trumpers will be Leaving the Train Platform soon.

   Robert Cray-- Who's Been Talkin'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-uJovsQwkI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-uJovsQwkI)
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: libertybele on December 12, 2023, 01:54:30 am
    Trumpers will be Leaving the Train Platform soon.



I believe that you are absolutely right.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: corbe on December 12, 2023, 02:10:16 am
   I don't hate the Man, I'm above the concept of hate. 

   But if he loses the Election because 50% of his support dropped out upon his 'CONVICTED OF A FELONY', just 1 of 95, that leaves the GOP exactly where the dems wanted US.

    Thank you Trumpers and don't let me forget, for screwing US out of 7 years of President Cruz.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: libertybele on December 12, 2023, 02:20:21 am
   I don't hate the Man, I'm above the concept of hate. 

   But if he loses the Election because 50% of his support dropped out upon his 'CONVICTED OF A FELONY', just 1 of 95, that leaves the GOP exactly where the dems wanted US.

    Thank you Trumpers and don't let me forget, for screwing US out of 7 years of President Cruz.

 888high58888
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: corbe on December 12, 2023, 02:34:35 am
(https://media.notthebee.com/articles/968644f6-c3e8-49de-b000-5b8068f51603.jpg)



                             F*k Ya!
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Hoodat on December 12, 2023, 02:38:11 am
Thank you Trumpers and don't let me forget, for screwing US out of 7 years of President Cruz.

Could you imagine eight years of Cruz followed by eight years of DeSantis?   Instead, we get four years of Biden, four years of Biden-lite, and a bleak future.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: corbe on December 12, 2023, 02:48:03 am
    I'm beginning to think that even Carly Fiorani, in spite of her fckin up HP, would have been a better Vice President than Pence did.   
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: DB on December 12, 2023, 03:26:51 am
    I'm beginning to think that even Carly Fiorani, in spite of her fckin up HP, would have been a better Vice President than Pence did.

Well, she probably would have fckin up'd Trump too and we wouldn't be in the mess we are in now...
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: LMAO on December 12, 2023, 02:44:03 pm
@Right_in_Virginia
You specifically said "federal budget".  So what is Trump's proposal for the federal budget?  And before you post another lie about posting it months ago, let me help you out with what the official Trump Campaign website says.  In short, he doesn't have one.  No mention of the federal budget.  Only more proposals for additional federal spending and higher costs for American consumers.

So don't you find it egregiously hypocritical to snidely ask about DeSantis' proposals on the federal budget when you clearly don't care anything about your own preferred candidate having his own "federal budget" proposal?

Noticed how quickly she ducked out of the conversation.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Gefn on December 12, 2023, 10:04:01 pm
  I know yall think of me as a Stoner, a forgetful person of low intelligence (as I was called today)  wink777  BUT I can still remember when @sneakypete didn't particularly like Trump. 

  Sure, we all change~ it's a given with the passage of Time. So, here is some year of the Cat.


Al Stewart - Year Of The Cat (Lyrics)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UuD3wUcRUY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UuD3wUcRUY)

 I promised @Gefn


@corbe I use to sing this to my kitties along with "What's new pussycat?"
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Gefn on December 12, 2023, 10:04:56 pm
@corbe
a musical cat for you.


https://youtu.be/J---aiyznGQ
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: sneakypete on December 13, 2023, 12:30:26 am
  I know yall think of me as a Stoner, a forgetful person of low intelligence (as I was called today)  wink777  BUT I can still remember when @sneakypete didn't particularly like Trump.

  Sure, we all change~ it's a given with the passage of Time. So, here is some year of the Cat.


Al Stewart - Year Of The Cat (Lyrics)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UuD3wUcRUY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UuD3wUcRUY)

 I promised @Gefn

@corbe

I don't like him now.

WTH does liking someone have to do with supporting a candidate because you think that candidate happens to be the best choice for President?

I want to see him elected because I see him as being our best/only  chance to save America for at least another 4 years.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: sneakypete on December 13, 2023, 12:34:38 am

@LMAO

Haven’t you heard?

He doesn’t like Donald Trump. We all know that’s bullshit but if he likes Donald Trump that’s OK. But don’t tell people that he doesn’t like Trump, but then every time someone’s critical of Trump attack that person on a personal level.

@Is this a Presidential election,or  picking "besties" for a kindergarten party?

How freaking old ARE you people?

The goal here SHOULD be to try to  get a candidate elected who  will try to save America from the globalists,not pick a boyfriend for your sister.

Grow the bleep UP!
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: sneakypete on December 13, 2023, 12:38:25 am
   I don't hate the Man, I'm above the concept of hate. 

   
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But if he loses the Election because 50% of his support dropped out upon his 'CONVICTED OF A FELONY', just 1 of 95, that leaves the GOP exactly where the dems wanted US.


Just HOW would that be Trump's fault? After all,the Dims aren't done yet trying  to  dig up more bogus charges to keep him from being elected.

Trump is the ONLY candidate that scares the hell out of the Dims,yet you people act  like  he is a direct descendant of Satan.

   
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Thank you Trumpers and don't let me forget, for screwing US out of 7 years of President Cruz.

Really? WHEN did Cruz announce he was going to be running?

He  is the only potential candidate that I can MAYBE see me voting for instead of Trump.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: LMAO on December 13, 2023, 12:46:12 am
@Is this a Presidential election,or  picking "besties" for a kindergarten party?

How freaking old ARE you people?

The goal here SHOULD be to try to  get a candidate elected who  will try to save America from the globalists,not pick a boyfriend for your sister.

Grow the bleep UP!

Very defensive you are. We obviously hit a nerve.

 There was a time a while back that you thought RDS would make a good follow up after Donald Trump. It wasn’t until Donald Trump told you he was bad that you changed your mind.



Did Trump save America when he was president? And what you define as saving America is different than another voter’s definition

So…keeping on telling us you don’t like Trump. No one believes it. I doubt you even do
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: sneakypete on December 13, 2023, 01:02:54 am

Very defensive you are. We obviously hit a nerve.

@LMAO

As usual,you are as clueless as Biden.

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When anyone makes fun of Trump, your reaction is to go after that person.

Duhhhh! You are "making fun" of the ONLY  candidate that will stand up to the left and the mushy moderates,and having hissy fits when anyone makes similar remarks about the losers you love.



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That similar to a girl who defends her boyfriend. That’s why you’re so threatened of Ron DeSantis being in the race.

AMERICA and free people everywhere are threatened by the mere fact that poser is even running for the office of President,yet you the rest of the DeSanctimonious  groupies practically have orgasms every time he appears in public

Quote
There was a while that you thought he would make a good vice president or a good follow up after Donald Trump. It wasn’t until Donald Trump told you he was bad that you changed your mind.


No,what made me change  my mind about him was learning more about him,including how  he stabbed Trump  in the back in a vain effort to run  for President.

Quote
And since you can never really define what  saving America looks like, it appears your choices purely emotional


I sincerely  hope  you were looking into a mirror when you typed that.

Quote
Did Trump save America when he was president?

No,and he won't  "save America" this time if he gets elected. NOBODY can do that in just 4 short years. He CAN,and I think  he WILL do everything he can do to get things rolling in that direction,though. He ego demands that for the history books.

ALL Trump can do is try to get America set on the road towards recovery by whoever follows him after 4 years.
Quote

And what you define as saving America is different than another voter’s definition


That's true.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: LMAO on December 13, 2023, 01:05:32 am
lol…

Donald Trump did not stand up to the left. He may have sent out some nasty tweets about them. But when it came to the likes of Schumer and Pelosi, he folded

Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: roamer_1 on December 13, 2023, 01:08:32 am
lol…

Donald Trump did not stand up to the left. He may have sent out some nasty tweets about them. But when it came to the likes of Schumer and Pelosi, he folded

That's right... set all the theater aside and look where the rubber hits the road. You will find it to be true.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: sneakypete on December 13, 2023, 01:10:37 am
lol…

Donald Trump did not stand up to the left. He may have sent out some nasty tweets about them. But when it came to the likes of Schumer and Pelosi, he folded

@LMAO

It is a waste  of time trying to reason with  groupies,so I am mostly going to allow you to rant and expose yourselves for the fools that you are.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: LMAO on December 13, 2023, 01:15:41 am
@LMAO

It is a waste  of time trying to reason with  groupies,so I am mostly going to allow you to rant and expose yourselves for the fools that you are.

In other words, you concede defeat. Your only resort is to lash out and storm away.

Trump inherited a growing economy. He left office with it in shambles and laid the groundwork for inflation

And he’s promising more

I say no to four more years of that. I’m willing to give another Republican a shot. And if Ron DeSantis were to win the White House and follow the same fiscal and monetary policies as Donald Trump, I would not vote for him for a second term

You’re willing to put up with four more years of that just so you can have the satisfaction of owning the libs
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: LMAO on December 13, 2023, 01:29:29 am
That's right... set all the theater aside and look where the rubber hits the road. You will find it to be true.

What DeSantis is doing here is the exact remedy that’s needed on the federal level. Even if Congress fights spending cuts and overrides Presidental vetoes, it’s a fight that’s necessary. I can’t find anywhere were a country devaluing its currency didn’t lead to inflation.

MAGAs can’t lay claim to this. Their guy helped blow up the budget and money supply. Biden’s budget deficits are approaching $2 trillion. That’s the deficit. MAGA can’t attack this low hanging fruit because of what their guy did.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Hoodat on December 13, 2023, 01:34:02 am
Duhhhh! You are "making fun" of the ONLY  candidate that will stand up to the left

You mean 'stand with the left'.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: LMAO on December 13, 2023, 01:36:31 am
You mean 'stand with the left'.

And really what did that get him?

He sided with Democrats over congressional Republicans over Covid stimulus and the Democrats still hated him
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: roamer_1 on December 13, 2023, 01:37:28 am
What DeSantis is doing here is the exact remedy that’s needed on the federal level. Even if Congress fights spending cuts and overrides Presidental vetoes, it’s a fight that’s necessary. I can’t find anywhere were a country devaluing its currency didn’t lead to inflation.

MAGAs can’t lay claim to this. Their guy helped blow up the budget and money supply. Biden’s budget deficits are approaching $2 trillion. That’s the deficit. MAGA can’t attack this low hanging fruit because of what their guy did.

*FACTS*

...and you'll get no challenge... but someone will be along soon to tell you you're a poopeyhead.
 :laugh: :beer:
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: roamer_1 on December 13, 2023, 01:39:53 am
You mean 'stand with the left'.

Huh. Musta been a typo...  :laugh:
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: LMAO on December 13, 2023, 01:42:10 am
I will be voting for Ron DeSantis in the primary

Should by some miracle he wins the GOP nomination, I would like to hear a lot more emphasis on the size of government and fiscal and monetary policy and how it’s tied into loss of freedom and lower standard of living and less on woke politics



Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: roamer_1 on December 13, 2023, 01:48:33 am
I will be voting for Ron DeSantis in the primary

Should by some miracle he wins the GOP nomination, I would like to hear a lot more emphasis on the size of government and fiscal and monetary policy and how it’s tied into loss of freedom and lower standard of living and less on woke politics

I don't think it will happen that way... Though I do believe he thinks that way, as this OP indicates.

But he's a woke bulldog, and I think he's gonna worry that bone. Which suits me fine, because that's the same thing in the end...

We'll have to see if he can walk and chew gum at the same time.  happy77
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: LMAO on December 13, 2023, 01:58:10 am
*FACTS*

...and you'll get no challenge... but someone will be along soon to tell you you're a poopeyhead.
 :laugh: :beer:

I prefer “Dey do ron ron” De Sanctimonious groupie line, myself :tongue2:
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: libertybele on December 13, 2023, 01:59:52 am
I don't think it will happen that way... Though I do believe he thinks that way, as this OP indicates.

But he's a woke bulldog, and I think he's gonna worry that bone. Which suits me fine, because that's the same thing in the end...

We'll have to see if he can walk and chew gum at the same time.  happy77

I will be voting for him as well in the primary. He has a proven track record as governor. I've lived here over 30 years and he is by far the best governor FL has experienced. He is a strong fiscal conservative; true to his conservative principles.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: Hoodat on December 13, 2023, 02:01:14 am
lol…

Donald Trump did not stand up to the left. He may have sent out some nasty tweets about them. But when it came to the likes of Schumer and Pelosi, he folded

Donald Trump donations to Chuck Schumer:

2/25/1999$1000

9/23/1999$250

11/5/1996$1000

2/25/1999$900

12/11/2009$400

1/7/2004$1000

5/23/2000$750

5/20/2009$2000

4/7/2010$1000

12/11/2009$1600
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: roamer_1 on December 13, 2023, 02:03:34 am
I will be voting for him as well in the primary. He has a proven track record as governor. I've lived here over 30 years and he is by far the best governor FL has experienced. He is a strong fiscal conservative; true to his conservative principles.

Absolutely agree. He has my endorsement, and is the only one in the field that I will vote for  :beer:
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: sneakypete on December 13, 2023, 01:53:09 pm
In other words, you concede defeat. Your only resort is to lash out and storm away.

 
@LMAO

See? Even YOU know you are wrong,and overcompensating to try to make up for it .

Your hatred for Rude Orange RICH Man controls your life. He lives in your head 24/7.
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: LMAO on December 13, 2023, 02:12:32 pm
@LMAO

See? Even YOU know you are wrong,and overcompensating to try to make up for it .

Your hatred for Rude Orange RICH Man controls your life. He lives in your head 24/7.

Lol

I have no idea what this statement even means, but you do so more power to you
Title: Re: DeSantis unveils budget to cut government jobs, bolster education, debt repayment
Post by: catfish1957 on December 13, 2023, 02:27:45 pm
Lol

I have no idea what this statement even means, but you do so more power to you

Delusion isn't a pretty thing.   That's why on most days, I avoid him like the plague.