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Title: Matt Gaetz urges colleagues to abolish the ATF before it strips Americans of gun rights: 'Cannot be
Post by: Elderberry on February 02, 2023, 11:55:45 pm
Fox News By Lawrence Richard 2/2/2023

Matt Gaetz urges colleagues to abolish the ATF before it strips Americans of gun rights: 'Cannot be trusted'

Rep. Gaetz called the ATF an 'unlawful agency' and urged his colleagues to help eliminate it 'once and for all'

Rep. Matt Gaetz is calling on his colleagues to support a bill that would abolish the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), a law enforcement agency that operates under the Department of Justice, after its latest guidance that restricts the ownership of gun components.

During a speech on the floor of the House chamber Wednesday, Gaetz, a Republican from Florida, said the bureau "cannot be trusted" and that it was ultimately seeking to strip Americans of their Second Amendment right to privately own firearms.

"The ATF cannot be trusted to protect our right to keep and bear arms," Gaetz said. "There is no timeline where the ATF, under any administration, would become an ally [to gun owners]. It needs to go, we need to abolish the ATF before they abolish our Second Amendment rights."

The comments came after the ATF announced it would treat pistols with stabilizing accessories like short-barreled rifles, which require a federal license to own under the National Firearms Act.

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: "The ATF cannot be trusted, it needs to go, we need to Abolish the ATF before they abolish our Second Amendment rights."

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Title: Matt Gaetz urges colleagues to abolish the ATF before it strips Americans of gun rights: 'Cannot be
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on February 03, 2023, 05:35:02 pm
Matt Gaetz urges colleagues to abolish the ATF before it strips Americans of gun rights: 'Cannot be trusted'
Fox News, Feb 2, 2023

Rep. Matt Gaetz is calling on his colleagues to support a bill that would abolish the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), a law enforcement agency that operates under the Department of Justice, after its latest guidance that restricts the ownership of gun components.

During a speech on the floor of the House chamber Wednesday, Gaetz, a Republican from Florida, said the bureau "cannot be trusted" and that it was ultimately seeking to strip Americans of their Second Amendment right to privately own firearms.

"The ATF cannot be trusted to protect our right to keep and bear arms," Gaetz said. "There is no timeline where the ATF, under any administration, would become an ally [to gun owners]. It needs to go, we need to abolish the ATF before they abolish our Second Amendment rights."

Gaetz’s bill, H.R.374, the "Abolish the ATF Act," simply reads: "The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives is hereby abolished." It has been referred to the House Judiciary Committee.

"I urge every red-blooded American and every conservative in this Congress to stand with Rep. Andrew Clyde [R-GA] and his legislation and to stand with me and to co-sponsor my bill, the Abolist the ATF Act of 2023. Let’s get rid of this unlawful agency once and for all," the Floridian said.


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Title: Re: Matt Gaetz urges colleagues to abolish the ATF before it strips Americans of gun rights: 'Cannot
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on February 03, 2023, 05:36:57 pm
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Title: Re: Matt Gaetz urges colleagues to abolish the ATF before it strips Americans of gun rights: 'Cannot
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 03, 2023, 05:39:29 pm
The ATF should be a booze and sporting goods store....
Title: Re: Matt Gaetz urges colleagues to abolish the ATF before it strips Americans of gun rights: 'Cannot
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on February 03, 2023, 05:40:49 pm
ATF is under DOJ?  Didn't it used to be under Treasury?

ATF shouldn't be under DOJ.  That's too much enforcement power in a single agency.
Title: Re: Matt Gaetz urges colleagues to abolish the ATF before it strips Americans of gun rights: 'Cannot
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on February 03, 2023, 05:45:26 pm
The ATF should be a booze and sporting goods store....

That's what Gaetz said, too.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Matt Gaetz urges colleagues to abolish the ATF before it strips Americans of gun rights: 'Cannot
Post by: Kamaji on February 03, 2023, 05:50:21 pm
ATF is under DOJ?  Didn't it used to be under Treasury?

ATF shouldn't be under DOJ.  That's too much enforcement power in a single agency.

It used to be under Treasury - it was moved to DOJ under Bush as part of the (over)reaction to 9/11.
Title: Re: Matt Gaetz urges colleagues to abolish the ATF before it strips Americans of gun rights: 'Cannot
Post by: mountaineer on February 03, 2023, 07:15:34 pm
So many three-letter agencies should be eliminated.
Title: Re: Matt Gaetz urges colleagues to abolish the ATF before it strips Americans of gun rights: 'Cannot
Post by: Mod5 on February 03, 2023, 07:55:29 pm
Merged.
Title: Re: Matt Gaetz urges colleagues to abolish the ATF before it strips Americans of gun rights: 'Cannot
Post by: bilo on February 04, 2023, 04:00:58 am
Rep. Matt Gaetz is calling on his colleagues to support a bill that would abolish the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), a law enforcement agency that operates under the Department of Justice, after its latest guidance that restricts the ownership of gun components.

He is so right.

I hope more and more Pubs wake up and start cutting the funding for a lot of agencies, especially those that don't comply with subpoenas or "slow walk" documents.

Title: Re: Matt Gaetz urges colleagues to abolish the ATF before it strips Americans of gun rights: 'Cannot
Post by: christian on February 05, 2023, 01:05:45 am
You can't stop the ATF, brown shirts, The KGB FBI or the KGB CIA, not the Democrat owned and controlled IRS.  Get out of your dream world, the rose color glasses have severely faded.  Fools want a gulag run society, and Constitutions free, gun free land, also free of prosperity and free speech.
You fought so hard for it, almost there?  Then after getting your way, turn and blame God for it
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Title: Re: Matt Gaetz urges colleagues to abolish the ATF before it strips Americans of gun rights: 'Cannot
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 05, 2023, 04:11:51 am
The ATF can't strip us of an unalienable right.

We still have our rights no matter what the Government says.

What we would be stripped of, should some there get their way, is the ability to exercise that right.

It may seem like splitting hairs, but it makes a difference. Rights don't go away because the Government is wrong.
Title: Re: Matt Gaetz urges colleagues to abolish the ATF before it strips Americans of gun rights: 'Cannot
Post by: sneakypete on February 05, 2023, 08:09:54 am
Works for me!
Title: Re: Matt Gaetz urges colleagues to abolish the ATF before it strips Americans of gun rights: 'Cannot
Post by: sneakypete on February 05, 2023, 08:13:09 am
ATF is under DOJ?  Didn't it used to be under Treasury?

@DefiantMassRINO

Now that you mention it,I do believe you are right.

ATF shouldn't be under DOJ.  That's too much enforcement power in a single agency.
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You can bet everything you own that if this continues they will become the DOJ "shooters".
Title: Re: Matt Gaetz urges colleagues to abolish the ATF before it strips Americans of gun rights: 'Cannot
Post by: sneakypete on February 05, 2023, 08:14:58 am
It used to be under Treasury - it was moved to DOJ under Bush as part of the (over)reaction to 9/11.

@Kamaji

Boy Jorge was the jackass that made stupidity and drunkenness acceptable for Presidents.
Title: Re: Matt Gaetz urges colleagues to abolish the ATF before it strips Americans of gun rights: 'Cannot
Post by: sneakypete on February 05, 2023, 08:19:31 am
Rep. Matt Gaetz is calling on his colleagues to support a bill that would abolish the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF), a law enforcement agency that operates under the Department of Justice, after its latest guidance that restricts the ownership of gun components.

He is so right.

I hope more and more Pubs wake up and start cutting the funding for a lot of agencies, especially those that don't comply with subpoenas or "slow walk" documents.

@bilo

Yes,he is. Besides putting the anti-American agencies out of power,look at how much money that can be sent back to the Treasury once these political hacks are put out of work and the agency that paid them is also closed down.

Of course I know the money won't go back to the Treasury. Some conniving pols will steal it before it ever gets back "home",but with the Dims out of power there is a slight chance they might get arrested and put in prison where they belong.
Title: Re: Matt Gaetz urges colleagues to abolish the ATF before it strips Americans of gun rights: 'Cannot
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 05, 2023, 08:26:00 am
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You can bet everything you own that if this continues they will become the DOJ "shooters".
Yeah, they've been loose cannons since they shot Kenyon Ballew (https://www.sfgate.com/nation/article/How-the-NRA-became-ATF-s-biggest-enemy-4950703.php).