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General Category => Trump Legal Investigations => Topic started by: mystery-ak on February 16, 2024, 03:18:06 pm
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https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1758509092262273408
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LeoTerrell
@TheLeoTerrell
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The expected ruling in the Trump’s New York Civil Fraud Trial will be appealed and REVERSED! P.S. Trump will become our next President!
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Yeah, this was a bench trial so that kooky judge is making the decision. Pre-determined result.
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https://twitter.com/eorden/status/1758582171705757784
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Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
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BREAKING:
Trump has been fined $364 million by Judge Engoron in the New York civil fraud case.
Engoron bans Trump from serving as an officer or director of any New York corporation or other legal entity in New York for 3 years.
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Wendy Patterson
@wendyp4545
Breaking News: The rabidly insane judge came out with his ruling holding Trump liable for something Trump didn't do that will go to an appeal in a 92 page ruling full of liberal justifications.
Trumps fines: $355 million total.
Both of Trumps sons ordered to pay $4 million each.
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https://twitter.com/alexsalvinews/status/1758584146543174028
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https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1758584264285671749
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Jack Poso 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec
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wont get a cent
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Do these Lawfare pukes realize they are only galvanizing Trump and his army of supporters.
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erica orden
@eorden
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The judge overseeing Trump’s civil fraud trial has issued him a $354.8M penalty.
With the two Carroll verdicts, Trump now owes $443.1 M in judgments.
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Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1
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Reuters: JUDGE BANS DONALD TRUMP AND THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION FROM APPLYING FOR LOANS FROM ANY NEW YORK-CHARTERED FINANCIAL INSTITUTION FOR 3 YEARS
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John Santucci
@Santucci
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Eric Trump reacting to this ruling tells @ABC
the judgment against him and his family is “a total joke” adding it is “insane” and said the family will immediately appeal. Eric Trump saying ruling shows the court and the AG in his opinion are “living in an alternate universe”
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🇺🇸 Mike Davis 🇺🇸
@mrddmia
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Predictably, Democrat New York AG Tish James and Manhattan Judge Arthur Engoron—two hyper-partisan Democrat clowns—are attempting to destroy Trump and his businesses.
This is part of the Democrats’ lawfare and election interference, because they fear voters on November 5, 2024.
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https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1758588553292902587
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Unbelievable, and disastrous.
I don't have the list in front of me, but suspect the majority of Pataki appointees would have rotated off by now, and the appellate system will be stacked with left wingers.
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Elon Musk
@elonmusk
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Replying to @charliekirk11
Given that there were no victims with losses, who is supposed to receive the money?
NYC?
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The decision seems more like a giant papal proclamation of important sounding words strung together than something based on the law.
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Donald Trump Jr.
@DonaldJTrumpJr
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We've reached the point where your political beliefs combined with what venue your case is heard are the primary determinants of the outcome; not the facts of the case!
It’s truly sad what’s happened to our country and I hope others see it before it’s too late to correct course!
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https://twitter.com/NickAdamsinUSA/status/1758588438612181246
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Heather R. Higgins
@TheHRH
Buried in paragraph 16: there was no reliance on his estimates, no harm, and no merit to this case, just a disgustingly politicized court:
"Trump never defaulted on the loans, and no one from Deutsche Bank, his principal lender, testified that they would have priced the loans any differently had they known of the alleged inaccuracies. The bank came up with its own, much lower value estimates of Trump’s properties using his financial statements as a starting point for its own credit-risk analysis."
https://wsj.com/us-news/donald-trump-new-york-civil-fraud-trial-ruling-6447c2cd?st=cra6vcmv7745b1o
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Ronny Jackson
@RonnyJacksonTX
DISGUSTING! The PATHETIC IDIOT “Judge” Engoron has found Trump guilty in his NY trial and fined him a ridiculous amount of money. He is now the head clown in the CORRUPT New York banana republic judicial system. These radical Democrat judges and prosecutors are doing the DIRTY WORK of Joe Biden and the Deep State. Trump IS coming back!! America WILL be Great Again!
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There are imposed penalites for frivolous lawsuits brought to he court. We need these to be recipricated to those rogue DA'S and AG's in return.
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Donald Trump Jr.
@DonaldJTrumpJr
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We've reached the point where your political beliefs combined with what venue your case is heard are the primary determinants of the outcome; not the facts of the case!
It’s truly sad what’s happened to our country and I hope others see it before it’s too late to correct course!
I think Don Jr. needs to campaign instead of his father. They've got Trump tied up in court. Jr. needs to go out campaign and raise some $$. He's got the draw, certainly the stamina and perhaps more vocal than even Sr.
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There are imposed penalites for frivolous lawsuits brought to he court. We need these to be recipricated to those rogue DA'S and AG's in return.
Except -- who's going to bring the lawsuits against them? Secondly, basically they would be ruling on themselves.
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Trump barred from operating business, ordered to pay over $350 million in NY civil fraud case
Former President Donald Trump was barred from operating his business in New York for three years and was found liable for more than $350 million in damages in the civil fraud case brought against him, his family and the Trump Organization by New York Attorney General Letitia James.
New York Judge Arthur Engoron handed down his ruling Friday after a months-long trial beginning in October and stemming from James' lawsuit alleging the former president inflated his assets and committed fraud.
Engoron ruled that Trump and defendants were liable for "persistent and repeated fraud," "falsifying business records," "issuing false financial statements," "conspiracy to falsify false financial statements," "insurance fraud," and "conspiracy to commit insurance fraud...............
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/judge-engoron-hands-decision-trump-new-york-civil-fraud-case
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Doug Collins
@RepDougCollins
So let me get this straight:
- You ask to borrow money
- The bank takes your application and checks it out
- They loan you the money
- You pay back the money
- The bank says they would loan to you again!
Would someone please point out the fraud? 🙄
This wasn’t about the law it was about getting Donald Trump. This case is a joke!
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Read decision @ link -- 92 pages!
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/judge-engoron-hands-decision-trump-new-york-civil-fraud-case
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$350 million -- they are trying to bankrupt him and his family and this is exactly how they are going to keep him from running. No funds. No time to campaign.
Meanwhile the RNC is going broke.
I don't see that Trump will be the nominee even more so now.
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$350 million -- they are trying to bankrupt him and his family and this is exactly how they are going to keep him from running. No funds. No time to campaign.
Meanwhile the RNC is going broke.
I don't see that Trump will be the nominee even more so now.
He will be.
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Do these Lawfare pukes realize they are only galvanizing Trump and his army of supporters.
And creating new ones.
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Are they trying to bankrupt his sons as well?? They won't be able to touch Tiffany who just married a multi-billionnaire. It also looks like Ivanka has skated out of this as well.
Trump's sons are also impacted: Meanwhile, Trump's adult sons, Donald Jr. and Eric, have been ordered to pay $4 million for their personal profits from the fraud and are barred from serving as an officer or director of any New York corporation for two years. Two former Trump Organization executives are permanently banned from running finances for New York businesses.
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-civil-fraud-trial-decision-02-16-24/index.html
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They need to move all their businesses from NY to FL or elsewhere -- or does this ruling prohibit them from doing so??
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As lopsided as this ruling appears to be, it still isn't a reason to support the doomed candidacy of Donald Trump.
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As lopsided as this ruling appears to be, it still isn't a reason to support the doomed candidacy of Donald Trump.
Go Nikki? *****rollingeyes*****
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Trump blasts 'clubhouse politician' judge after being fined $350M, defends the 'great company' he built
Former President Trump blasted "clubhouse politician" Judge Arthur Engoron Friday after he barred him from operating his business in New York for three years and fined him more than $350 million, defending the "great company" he built and telling Fox News Digital that the ruling is yet another example of Democrats "trying to stop" him, but that "they will not be successful."
Engoron handed down his ruling Friday after a months-long civil fraud trial beginning in October and stemming from New York Attorney General Letitia James' lawsuit alleging the former president inflated his assets and committed fraud.
Trump spoke exclusively to Fox News Digital shortly after Engoron's ruling was made public Friday afternoon.
"A crooked New York judge working with the very corrupt attorney general of New York State, who ran on the basis of ‘I will get trump’ before knowing me — before even knowing anything about me — just ruled that I have to pay a fine of $355 million based on absolutely nothing," Trump told Fox News Digital. "No victims. No damages. Great financial statements, with full disclaimer clauses, only success."
Trump told Fox News Digital that the "banks and insurance companies were thrilled — they made nothing but money. No defaults, no nothing at a time when many banks are losing money."
"This is a witch hunt where the judge ruled against me before he even saw the case," Trump said, noting that Engoron "strongly stated that said Mar-a-Lago was worth $18 million- when it is worth anywhere from 50 to 100 times more than that."
In September, Engoron ruled that Trump and the Trump Organization had committed fraud while building a real estate empire by deceiving banks, insurers and others by overvaluing his assets and exaggerating his net worth on paperwork used in making deals and securing financing.
Trump also said Engoron has "already been overturned on this case four times — a record." .........
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-blasts-clubhouse-politician-judge-after-being-fined-350m-defends-great-company-he-built
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They need to move all their businesses from NY to FL or elsewhere -- or does this ruling prohibit them from doing so??
And I as an Oil Company Stockholder, I would highly support an embargo Petroleum products to NY. Make them pay for electing this level of political activism.
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Engoron ruled that Trump and defendants were liable for "persistent and repeated fraud," "falsifying business records," "issuing false financial statements," "conspiracy to falsify false financial statements," "insurance fraud," and "conspiracy to commit insurance fraud...............
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/judge-engoron-hands-decision-trump-new-york-civil-fraud-case
By "insurance fraud", they mean that Trump paid MORE for insurance at a higher valuation than he would have paid had the insurance companies valued the OUT OF STATE properties at as low a value as NYC deems them worth.
This is what they are calling 'insurance fraud'.
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Read decision @ link -- 92 pages!
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/judge-engoron-hands-decision-trump-new-york-civil-fraud-case
Direct link: https://www.scribd.com/document/706231478/452564-2022-People-of-the-State-of-v-People-of-the-State-of-Decision-After-Trial-1688
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Question: How is those NY Values now Mr. Trump ? Still feel the same about them?
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https://twitter.com/theblaze/status/1758633972350001272
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Here’s what Trump’s $355M fraud ruling means for his company, real estate empire – and wallet
By Social Links for Ben Kochman and
Social Links for Priscilla DeGregory
Published Feb. 16, 2024, 6:08 p.m. ET
A New York court delivered a crushing blow Friday to Donald Trump’s wallet by ordering the real estate tycoon to pay some $355 million after finding him liable of inflating his net worth by billions a year to get better loan and insurance terms.
But it’s unlikely that Trump’s name will be erased from the Big Apple skyline after Manhattan Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron rejected the New York Attorney General’s request to permanently bar him from doing business in the state where he shot to fame.
Here’s what the ruling means for Trump’s real estate empire, his family company — and his wallet:
What does the ruling mean for Trump’s NY real estate empire?
Prior to trial, the judge had yanked Trump’s business license for the Trump Organization — issuing what attorneys described as the “corporate death penalty” — after finding him liable for New York Attorney General Letitia James’ main claim of fraud.
But in Friday’s ruling, Engoron reinstated Trump’s “business certificates” — and left it up to a third-party monitor to oversee the former president’s prized assets, such as Midtown’s Trump Tower and other iconic New York properties.
“This is a complete reversal from the last decision, and it is much more palatable for Trump,” said real estate lawyer Adam Leitman Bailey, who has sued Trump in the past.
“He went from ordering Trump to potentially have to sell all of his New York assets within a short amount of time, to just having a monitor oversee things without giving her direction on what she’s supposed to do,” Leitman Bailey added.
The ruling also bars Trump from being the CEO of Trump Org — or holding any top business office in the state — for three years, but the ex-president could appoint someone else to run the company during that time, with the business staying in New York.
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https://nypost.com/2024/02/16/us-news/heres-what-trumps-355m-fraud-ruling-means-for-his-company-real-estate-empire-and-wallet/
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This isn't a court decision. It is a salacious novel, full of he said, she said.
And nowhere in it do they identify any person or entity that was defrauded.
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TheBlaze
@theblaze
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NY AG Letitia James: “Today justice has been served. Today we proved that no one is above the law. Donald Trump may have authored The Art of The Deal, but he perfected the art of the steal.”
So who was robbed? Who had worth stolen from them? Who is the victim here?
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Go Nikki? *****rollingeyes*****
The NY and January 6 cases are now on a fast track. His lawyers will be terrible. A sober political party would nominate anybody but this guy.
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The NY and January 6 cases are now on a fast track. His lawyers will be terrible. A sober political party would nominate anybody but this guy.
He hasn't had any decent lawyers that I can remember. He certainly isn't winning any cases.
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The NY and January 6 cases are now on a fast track. His lawyers will be terrible. A sober political party would nominate anybody but this guy.
@cato potatoe
Petty class jealousy and envy of the wealthy is NEVER pretty,but you have sunk to a whole new level of petty hatred.
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@cato potatoe
Petty class jealousy and envy of the wealthy is NEVER pretty,but you have sunk to a whole new level of petty hatred.
At the rate they are fining Trump, his wealth is going to greatly dissipate. Who knows how much $$ he truly has/had. He's never revealed his wealth/assets other than what he claims.
Envious of Trump? Definitely not. He's been slapped with 91 felonies. He just was ordered to pay over $350,000,000.00 Then there's the $447,000,000.00 he's been ordered to Caroll. I'd say he probably is not doing too well financially these days.
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What sucks here is the fallout and the unintended (maybe) consequences.
You do a similar thing with your banks and insurance co. Pay it all back with interest on time like any other loan.
Govt comes in and says you committed fraud and gets a big judgement against you. Except there is no crime and not victim, so who does the $$$ go to?
THE GOVERNMENT.
If it's enough $$$ or you are a political enemy, the govt can now do some RICO like extortion of your company and simply take it in something similar to civil forfeiture. And if you're willing to settle for a lower amount, no trial even.
Nah, that won't be abused.
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Trump Has to Put Up Hundreds of Millions of Dollars Pre-Appeal
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February 17, 2024
New York Attorney General Letitia James said Donald Trump and his organization owe $463.9 million, which includes the interest on top of the $355 million. He also owes the “rape” victim with a crazy story and no evidence, E Jean Carroll, $88 million, which he has to pay for defaming her already tarnished reputation.
He has to find the money or part of it, depending on what the court determines, and put it in escrow quickly. Interest accrues daily for this bogus lawsuit. Not only that, the interest accrues while the appeals take place.
Letitia James is the top lawmaker in New York State, and she is a “communist,” partisan hack who brought a sham case against Trump with a judge whom many on the left call a communist.
Many other lawsuits were pending appeal, but Trump opted not to appeal a court’s decision that found he is not immune from civil lawsuits that blame him for the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. He’ll face those also, as the left seeks to bankrupt him as they promised they would when he was president.
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https://www.independentsentinel.com/trump-has-to-put-up-hundreds-of-millions-of-dollars-pre-appeal/
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Personally if I were Trump I'd bail out of all his properties in NYC before their values crash due to their failed city Govt, take the money and go right back at the state of NY.
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https://twitter.com/NewYorkStateAG/status/1761127120481198282
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I bet she's proud, going after the 'rich white man', an all that.