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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: edpc on January 09, 2018, 04:07:16 pm

Title: Boos Show Risk Of Trump's Base-First Strategy
Post by: edpc on January 09, 2018, 04:07:16 pm
Atlanta (AFP) - US President Donald Trump's mixed reception from football fans on his political home turf in the US south on Monday underscored the risk in his unrelenting and contentious focus on core supporters.

The 45th president rarely moves outside his comfort zone, and so it was meant to be on a two-state whirlwind tour Monday.

Trump visited the conservative bastions of Tennessee and Georgia, cozying up to farmers and throwing red meat to college football fans by attending a championship final game.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/boos-show-risk-trumps-first-strategy-105521748.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/boos-show-risk-trumps-first-strategy-105521748.html)
Title: Re: Boos Show Risk Of Trump's Base-First Strategy
Post by: edpc on January 09, 2018, 04:08:36 pm
Nonsense.  First of all, he’s never going to carry Atlanta districts.  Also, if there were boos, they were decidedly drowned out.
Title: Re: Boos Show Risk Of Trump's Base-First Strategy
Post by: jmyrlefuller on January 09, 2018, 04:35:30 pm
Nonsense.  First of all, he’s never going to carry Atlanta districts.  Also, if there were boos, they were decidedly drowned out.
I heard the boos. They were louder than anything I'd heard since Ashlee Simpson's performance at the Orange Bowl 13 years ago. Of course, the mainly black (only important because it means mainly Democrat) audience was never going to like Trump anyway.
Title: Re: Boos Show Risk Of Trump's Base-First Strategy
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 09, 2018, 04:54:01 pm
I heard the boos. They were louder than anything I'd heard since Ashlee Simpson's performance at the Orange Bowl 13 years ago. Of course, the mainly black (only important because it means mainly Democrat) audience was never going to like Trump anyway.

I don't know what special TV you had to hear all these boos. I watched it and he got a pretty good reception considering most Presidents get boos at sporting events because they don't belong there.
Title: Re: Boos Show Risk Of Trump's Base-First Strategy
Post by: edpc on January 09, 2018, 04:58:38 pm
They were louder than anything I'd heard since Ashlee Simpson's performance at the Orange Bowl 13 years ago.


Did you at least have good seats?
Title: Re: Boos Show Risk Of Trump's Base-First Strategy
Post by: Emjay on January 09, 2018, 05:07:39 pm
Atlanta (AFP) - US President Donald Trump's mixed reception from football fans on his political home turf in the US south on Monday underscored the risk in his unrelenting and contentious focus on core supporters.

The 45th president rarely moves outside his comfort zone, and so it was meant to be on a two-state whirlwind tour Monday.

Trump visited the conservative bastions of Tennessee and Georgia, cozying up to farmers and throwing red meat to college football fans by attending a championship final game.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/boos-show-risk-trumps-first-strategy-105521748.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/boos-show-risk-trumps-first-strategy-105521748.html)

I use Yahoo as my search engine but I also go there every day to see what negative stuff they've dug up on Trump.  Yahoo is the most anti-Trump site anywhere.  They do not try to hide it.

I'm gonna head over there now and see.
Title: Re: Boos Show Risk Of Trump's Base-First Strategy
Post by: Emjay on January 09, 2018, 05:11:48 pm
Yeah, this was their lead story but they also gave a lot of play to Colbert interviewing Wolff.

Real hard-hitting interview which culminated in Colbert asking Wolff if there was anything he liked about the Trump administration and Wolff doing a cute face into the camera.
Title: Re: Boos Show Risk Of Trump's Base-First Strategy
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 09, 2018, 05:13:49 pm

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D4ZCubJsNs#)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D4ZCubJsNs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D4ZCubJsNs)
Title: Re: Boos Show Risk Of Trump's Base-First Strategy
Post by: Concerned on January 09, 2018, 05:16:45 pm
I’m not sure boos (or cheers) at a football game are an indication of much, but I’ve never understood the apparent, only-appeal-to-the-base, strategy.  I think its ineffectiveness is reflective in his approval numbers (mid to high 30’s).  I believe the President ran a brilliant election campaign and tapped into a level of dissatisfaction not fully realized by most others, but his focus primarily on his base continues to confuse me (I freely admit I don’t play 12-dimensional chess).  He won 4 states and 75 electoral votes by 1.3 points or less.  I just don’t see how an essentially, base-only strategy is going to cut it for getting him reelected.

I suppose his entire strategy could be that he hopes to get the economy really humming well beyond current levels, and that voters will then follow him.  That just seems like a risky strategy given how many things outside his control could impact the economy and how polarizing he is.  The economy is pretty good right now, but it’s not particularly reflected in his approvals. 
Title: Re: Boos Show Risk Of Trump's Base-First Strategy
Post by: edpc on January 09, 2018, 05:23:07 pm
I’m not sure boos (or cheers) at a football game are an indication of much, but I’ve never understood the apparent, only-appeal-to-the-base, strategy.  I think its ineffectiveness is reflective in his approval numbers (mid to high 30’s).  I believe the President ran a brilliant election campaign and tapped into a level of dissatisfaction not fully realized by most others, but his focus primarily on his base continues to confuse me (I freely admit I don’t play 12-dimensional chess).  He won 4 states and 75 electoral votes by 1.3 points or less.  I just don’t see how an essentially, base-only strategy is going to cut it in 2020.

I suppose his entire strategy could be that he hopes to get the economy really humming well beyond current levels, and that voters will then follow him.  That just seems like a risky strategy given how many things outside his control could impact the economy and how polarizing he is.  The economy is pretty good right now, but it’s not particularly reflected in his approvals.

You also bad a good amount of voters sitting it out, or voting 3rd party.  We'll know more about the economic growth once the midterms roll around.  If growth increases, nothing crazy happens with the market or militarily, his chances are better than average in 2020.
Title: Re: Boos Show Risk Of Trump's Base-First Strategy
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on January 09, 2018, 05:29:17 pm
You also bad a good amount of voters sitting it out, or voting 3rd party.  We'll know more about the economic growth once the midterms roll around.  If growth increases, nothing crazy happens with the market or militarily, his chances are better than average in 2020.

Which are you hoping for? 
Title: Re: Boos Show Risk Of Trump's Base-First Strategy
Post by: INVAR on January 10, 2018, 12:29:24 am
Video of the event.

Maybe this is why the boos:

! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo_mpwmashg#)
Title: Re: Boos Show Risk Of Trump's Base-First Strategy
Post by: Fantom on January 10, 2018, 12:38:30 am
Nonsense.  First of all, he’s never going to carry Atlanta districts.  Also, if there were boos, they were decidedly drowned out.

Yep, and the anti- Amercan(obama)blacks in Atlanta could not afford to be there anyways.
Title: Re: Boos Show Risk Of Trump's Base-First Strategy
Post by: edpc on January 10, 2018, 01:25:38 am
Which are you hoping for?


I am hoping for what I expected after he won the election: That he would state sometime after the 2018 midterms, he had accomplished what he set out to do and would leave it to Pence or whomever in 2020. I’m especially hopeful, after hearing that disaster today.
Title: Re: Boos Show Risk Of Trump's Base-First Strategy
Post by: Hoodat on January 10, 2018, 01:41:33 am
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Atlanta (AFP) - US President Donald Trump's mixed reception from football fans on his political home turf in the US south on Monday underscored the risk in his unrelenting and contentious focus on core supporters.

And then there's the possibility that Trump just wanted to see a really good football game.
Title: Re: Boos Show Risk Of Trump's Base-First Strategy
Post by: Concerned on January 10, 2018, 01:59:32 am

I am hoping for what I expected after he won the election: That he would state sometime after the 2018 midterms, he had accomplished what he set out to do and would leave it to Pence or whomever in 2020. I’m especially hopeful, after hearing that disaster today.

@edpc

You're certainly not alone.
Title: Re: Boos Show Risk Of Trump's Base-First Strategy
Post by: jmyrlefuller on January 10, 2018, 02:41:27 am

Did you at least have good seats?
As good as they get, watching on TV from the comfort of home, not that it matters much.