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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #50 on: Tuesday, Aug 04, 2026 06:25 am »
They announced that the Israelis had accepted this "peace plan" and agreed to the withdrawal before actually asking them, thereby trying to box them into a corner.

What a surprise, she found a way to blame Netanyahu.
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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday, Aug 04, 2026 09:36 pm »
When is the US going to accept that getting involved in the Middle East and its blood feuds is a complete waste of our attention, time, money, resources and blood?  What's it going to take?

This disarmament was part of the ceasefire/peace agreement both sides agreed to in 2025.

Back in 1990, it appeared this SOS had figured it all out:

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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #52 on: Thursday, Aug 06, 2026 05:10 am »
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Netanyahu says no Israeli withdrawal from Gaza until Hamas has been completely disarmed
Associated Press, Aug 4, 2026

DEIR AL-BALAH, Gaza City (AP) — Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Tuesday that Israel will not withdraw from its current lines in Gaza until Hamas has completely disarmed and pushed back on a recent deal announced by U.S. President Donald Trump.

Netanyahu’s remarks cast more doubt on the deal to disarm Hamas, which was seen as a potential breakthrough for ending the war. It also marked a rare public display of friction with the Trump administration.

The agreement called for Hamas to begin disarming and for Israel to halt its strikes and begin withdrawing from the roughly 60% of Gaza it currently controls. It was based on an October ceasefire agreement that ended major military operations and brought about the release of the remaining hostages held in Gaza but has stalled on other fronts.

https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-gaza-news-1215e52022856b9de9837237a0e188fa


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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #53 on: Thursday, Aug 06, 2026 05:27 am »
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UAE joins Turkey, Saudi Arabia in accusing Israel of undermining Trump Gaza plan
Times of Israel, Aug 6, 2026

A.group of Muslim countries — including close ally the United Arab Emirates and hostile Turkey — condemns Israeli “violations” in the Gaza Strip, and accuses Israel of undermining US President Donald Trump’s plan to end the fighting in Gaza.

Qatar, Jordan, the UAE, Indonesia, Pakistan, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt say Israel’s conduct in Gaza “constitutes a clear breach of Israel’s obligations under international law and the Comprehensive Plan to End the Gaza Conflict, undermines international and regional efforts aimed at implementing the second phase of the Plan, particularly following the announcement by US President Donald Trump that the Palestinian factions accepted the roadmap, including the provisions relating to the confinement of weapons.”

They say Israel’s policy in Gaza “threatens to derail the political process, reignite the cycle of escalation, and further deepen the humanitarian catastrophe in the Gaza Strip.”


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-august-06-2026/.


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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #54 on: Thursday, Aug 06, 2026 05:37 am »
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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Tuesday that Israel will not withdraw from its current lines in Gaza until Hamas has completely disarmed

Which was the original agreement, that the Arabs and Turks now want to forget about or alter.
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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #55 on: Friday, Aug 07, 2026 07:58 am »
Which was the original agreement, that the Arabs and Turks now want to forget about or alter.

From the 2025 agreement ---

°  Within 72 hours of Israel publicly accepting this agreement, all hostages, alive and deceased, will be returned. [Netanyahu accepted this agreement  from behind a podium, in front of White House cameras, standing beside President Trump.]. All hostages, alive and dead, were returned to Isrsel.

°. The agreement in 2025 called for an IDF withdrawal in lockstep with the demilitarization of Hamas (weapons and tunnels) under a schedule to be developed and monitored by the Board of Peace.  [This is now rejected by Israel.]

°  Further, in 2025, Israel agreed to suspend all military operations, including aerial and artillery bombardment, and battle lines will remain frozen until conditions are met for the complete staged withdrawal.  [Israel has continued, not suspended, all military operations and has increased IDF control from 53% of Gaza territory at the time of the agreement in 2025 to 70% currently --- breaking their acceptance of the 2025 agreement].


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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #56 on: Friday, Aug 07, 2026 06:12 pm »
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Netanyahu Confidant Ron Dermer Meets Trump Officials Amid Rift Over Hamas Deal
Haaretz, Aug 6, 2026



According to one of the sources, Dermer was sent to Washington in an attempt to defuse a diplomatic crisis with the United States over Israel's objections to the agreement struck between U.S. President Donald Trump's Gaza Board of Peace and Hamas.

According to one of the sources, U.S. officials were furious that Israel had submitted its reservations only after mediators and the Board of Peace announced they had reached an agreement with Hamas, despite having been briefed on its contents for months.

One of the sources suggested that Israel's position may be that it was not informed of all the changes introduced during the final stage of negotiations in Egypt.

However, as Haaretz reported, an Israeli delegation traveled to El-Alamein during the final stretch of the talks, on the eve of the agreement's announcement.

As reported in Haaretz, Israel opposes three elements of the agreement: weapons collected from Hamas would be stored in Gaza rather than destroyed; Turkey and Qatar would participate in monitoring and verifying the agreement's implementation; and Israel would lose its freedom of military action in areas that come under the control of the Technocratic Committee and the international stabilization force.

Meanwhile, last week – on the eve of Prime Minister Netanyahu's trip to the United States – Israel's security cabinet approved the deployment of an international stabilization force to the Gaza Strip as part of a limited pilot program in the Rafah area. However, according to three sources familiar with the matter, it remains unclear whether Israel has signed a Status of Forces Agreement with the Board of Peace – a legal framework required to allow the force's deployment on the ground.

In recent days, Netanyahu has declared that Israel will not withdraw from the lines it currently controls in the Gaza Strip. This refers to the Yellow Line, which has shifted significantly westward since the line to which the IDF withdrew after the October 2025 cease-fire with Hamas.

Under the broader framework published by the Board of Peace, however, the Israeli military withdrawal and Hamas' disarmament would proceed in parallel, with each stage contingent on progress in the other.


https://www.haaretz.com/gaza/2026-08-06/ty-article/.premium/sources-netanyahu-confidant-met-trump-officials-to-ease-rift-over-hamas-deal/0000019f-d5f7-deff-a5bf-fdffc7180000.

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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #57 on: Sunday, Aug 09, 2026 02:20 am »
So they sandbagged Israel.  What else is new?

And yet again, here is Hamas trying to get new concessions so that it can preserve its heavy weapons, rebuild its terrorist infrastructure, and attack again one day when Trump and Netanyahu are out of office.

So have Kushner and Witkoff started building their big new resort in Gaza yet?
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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #58 on: Sunday, Aug 09, 2026 07:49 am »
So have Kushner and Witkoff started building their big new resort in Gaza yet?

This Kushner/Witkoff/resorts crap has already been debunked as Iranian propaganda, so let's not start spreading it around again?
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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #59 on: Sunday, Aug 09, 2026 07:54 am »
This Kushner/Witkoff/resorts crap has already been debunked as Iranian propaganda, so let's not start spreading it around again?

Really?  Then what's this?

U.S. Pitches ‘Project Sunrise’ Plan to Turn Gaza Into High-Tech Metropolis

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/u-s-pitches-project-sunrise-plan-to-turn-gaza-into-high-tech-metropolis-ebbd96ae


Trump admin. pitches 'Project Sunrise' to turn Gaza into 'futuristic coastal destination' - WSJ

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/article-880819


US said to pitch ‘Project Sunrise’ — $112B plan to rebuild Gaza as luxury destination

https://www.timesofisrael.com/us-said-to-pitch-project-sunrise-a-plan-to-rebuild-gaza-as-luxury-destination/


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WASHINGTON—Beachside luxury resorts. High-speed rail. AI-optimized smart grids.

Welcome to “Project Sunrise,” the Trump administration’s pitch to foreign governments and investors to turn Gaza’s rubble into a futuristic coastal destination.

A team led by President Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner and Middle East envoy Steve Witkoff, two top White House aides, developed a draft proposal to convert the bombed-out enclave into a gleaming metropolis. In 32 pages of PowerPoint slides, replete with images of coastal high-rises alongside charts and cost tables, the plan outlines steps to take Gaza residents from tents to penthouses and from poverty to prosperity.

The presentation is labeled “sensitive but unclassified,” and doesn’t go into details about which countries or companies would fund Gaza’s rebuilding. Nor does it specify where precisely the 2 million displaced Palestinians would live during reconstruction. The U.S. has shown the slides to prospective donor countries, U.S. officials said, including wealthy Gulf kingdoms, Turkey and Egypt….


What Jared Kushner's 'New Gaza' plan includes, and what it leaves out


https://www.npr.org/2026/02/02/nx-s1-5694656/jared-kushner-new-gaza-plan

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"We've already started removing the rubble and doing some of the demolition," Jared Kushner, President Trump's son-in-law, said while presenting the plan recently in Davos, Switzerland.

"And then 'New Gaza.' It could be a hope, it could be a destination, have a lot of industry and really be a place that the people there can thrive, have great employment," he said.
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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #60 on: Sunday, Aug 09, 2026 08:06 am »
I can't stop you from believing that crap.   :shrug:
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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #61 on: Sunday, Aug 09, 2026 08:11 am »
I can't stop you from believing that crap.   :shrug:

What part of Kushner saying so himself do you not believe?
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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #62 on: Sunday, Aug 09, 2026 08:15 am »
What part of Kushner saying so himself do you not believe?

The parts repeated by leftist publications like NPR.
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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #63 on: Sunday, Aug 09, 2026 09:06 am »
So they sandbagged Israel.  What else is new?

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No one sandbagged Netanyahu ---- that would be copyright infringement.

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In Gaza and Lebanon, Netanyahu Is Betting That Trump Has Run Out of Steam
Haaretz, August 8, 2026

On two fronts in the ongoing regional war – Gaza and Lebanon – Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has denied U.S. President Donald Trump the quiet that the U.S. president has said he desires.

Despite the cease-fire agreement signed in Sharm el-Sheikh last year, Israel has continued strikes on the devastated territory. These attacks have killed a significant number of people – according to the United Nations, more than 1,200 since October, many of them civilians – and generated a widespread international outcry.

The Netanyahu government has also stonewalled the Trump administration's efforts to implement the cease-fire. Over the last year, the Israeli army has advanced well beyond its Yellow Line that separates Hamas-controlled Gaza from the part under Israeli control.

In Lebanon, things have also not proceeded quite as the Trump administration might have hoped. The Israeli and Lebanese delegations have continued their unprecedented bilateral meetings over Israel's planned withdrawal and the Lebanese army's return to the south – the most recent round finished this week in Rome. But the Lebanese front has not been quiet either. Here, Hezbollah has played a part, too, repeatedly testing the cease-fire with drone attacks on Israeli forces occupying southern Lebanon, while Israel has not missed opportunities to respond with overwhelming aerial and artillery firepower.

Since October 7, Netanyahu's military strategy has kept fronts open rather than end the fighting, preferring to maintain Israel's forces in buffer zones – not only in Gaza and Lebanon but also in Syria.

That has frustrated the Trump administration's stated aspirations of a regional reordering that would involve Israeli security agreements with Lebanon and Syria.  The talks between Lebanon and Israel, centered on securing an Israeli withdrawal in exchange for the neutralization of Hezbollah, are ultimately aimed at such a deal.

Meanwhile, last September, when Netanyahu flew to New York for the UN General Assembly, he reportedly rejected an agreement with Syria that President Ahmad al-Sharaa was prepared to sign.

Now, as Trump searches desperately for a way out of the Strait of Hormuz standoff with Iran, Netanyahu is betting that the U.S. president lacks the will to see either the Gaza or Lebanon conflicts to a definitive resolution.

After all, Netanyahu's pivot to a strategy of slow-burn conflict and "open fronts" is also driven by electoral considerations.

It is worth remembering that Netanyahu's coalition partners – Bezalel Smotrich's Religious Zionism and Itamar Ben-Gvir's Otzma Yehudit – have called for reoccupying Gaza, resettling it and expelling the Palestinians who live there. Likewise, the fringes of the settler movement are pushing to occupy and settle southern Lebanon and Syria.


https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/elections/2026-08-08/ty-article-magazine/.premium/in-gaza-and-lebanon-netanyahu-is-betting-that-trump-has-run-out-of-steam/0000019f-dbd3-d315-a1df-fbffd4870000




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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #64 on: Sunday, Aug 09, 2026 09:07 am »

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HOLDING FIRM: Netanyahu rejects Trump's Board of Peace 15-point Gaza proposal outright, declaring the IDF will not withdraw until Hamas surrenders every weapon it has — heavy, light, all of it.

The Israeli prime minister is insisting "genuine disarmament, not fictitious disarmament" is the only acceptable precondition for withdrawal. Hamas says it expects mediators to "press Netanyahu and his government to adhere to the roadmap" agreed upon in Cairo 10 days ago.
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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #65 on: Sunday, Aug 09, 2026 09:11 am »
The parts repeated by leftist publications like NPR.

Ah, attack the messenger but not the message.

Foolish.


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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #66 on: Sunday, Aug 09, 2026 09:21 am »
Secretary of State James Baker, 1990: (the same SoS that barred Deputy Foreign Minister Benjamin Netanyahu from the State Department for lying) --- "when you're serious about peace, call us".

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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #67 on: Sunday, Aug 09, 2026 10:11 am »
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Dahlan: Netanyahu’s rejection of Gaza roadmap shows ‘disdain’ for Trump
The Guardian/UK, Aug 9, 2026

Exiled Palestinian politician Mohammed Dahlan says Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s announcement today that he rejects the Board of Peace Gaza roadmap is a “challenge, disdain, and deception toward the American administration and President Donald Trump’s team.”

He says that the mediators “now recognize Netanyahu as the obstacle to achieving security and stability.”

Dahlan is a former top Fatah official who has served as a key go-between in negotiations involving Palestinians.

Dahlan has become a close adviser to United Arab Emirates President Mohammed bin Zayed, and Trump envoy Jared Kushner has also closely consulted with him while advancing his plan for the postwar management of Gaza.

Dahlan has preferred to largely remain behind the scenes, but one of his aides confirmed his involvement in the Hamas disarmament talks for the first time last month.


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/dahlan-netanyahus-rejection-of-gaza-roadmap-shows-disdain-for-trump/[/quote

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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #68 on: Sunday, Aug 09, 2026 11:33 am »
The Gaza agreement was dead 72 hours in when Hamas broke the agreement by failing to turn over all the hostages, dead or alive.
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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #69 on: Sunday, Aug 09, 2026 11:35 am »
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Dahlan: Netanyahu’s rejection of Gaza roadmap shows ‘disdain’ for Trump

Great!  There are a lot of us who have nothing but disdain for Trump too.
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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #70 on: Sunday, Aug 09, 2026 04:23 pm »
Great!  There are a lot of us who have nothing but disdain for Trump too.

Why do you have disdain for a US President who prevents the slaughter of his troops and the depletion of his military arsenal ---- even as he continues to work for the regional security and acceptance of a purported "greatest ally" ---- the ally led by a man who lies to obscure his unabated murderous rampage through the region?

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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #71 on: Sunday, Aug 09, 2026 04:32 pm »
---- the ally led by a man who lies to obscure his unabated murderous rampage through the region?

Remind me again who attacked whom on October 7, 2023?






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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #72 on: Sunday, Aug 09, 2026 06:50 pm »
Remind me again who attacked whom on October 7, 2023?

Hamas broke with humanity and brutally attacked Israel on Oct 7, 2023.

Now please, remind *me*, if you would ...

° who authorized the transfer of an estimated $1B to Hamas without audit or conditions, including the installment paid in Sep 2023,

° who ignored multiple reports of the looming attack,

° why more than 73,000 dead Gazan civilians and the demolition of the entire Gaza strip is not enough for Netanyahu to hold his fire and allow the US and his regional neighbors to work for enduring peace and security,

° why Netanyahu's military rampage also includes the West Bank, Lebanon, Syria, Qatar, Yemen and Iran since Oct 7, 2023.




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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #73 on: Sunday, Aug 09, 2026 07:09 pm »
When is the US going to accept that getting involved in the Middle East and its blood feuds is a complete waste of our attention, time, money, resources and blood?  What's it going to take?

That was essentially our policy for eight years before 9/11 happened.
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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #74 on: Sunday, Aug 09, 2026 07:36 pm »
When is the US going to accept that getting involved in the Middle East and its blood feuds is a complete waste of our attention, time, money, resources and blood?  What's it going to take?

That was essentially our policy for eight years before 9/11 happened.

Except, of course, for Bill Clinton (1993–2001), engaging in both high-profile peace diplomacy and direct military action, including:

° The Oslo Accords: President Clinton hosted the historic 1993 signing of the Declaration of Principles between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) at the White House.

° Israel-Jordan Treaty: The administration helped mediate and witness the official peace treaty signed between Israel and Jordan in 1994.

° Camp David Summit: Clinton made a late-term, intensive push for a final-status agreement by hosting Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat at Camp David in July 2000.

° Dual Containment: The U.S. pursued a policy meant to isolate both Iraq and Iran simultaneously, preventing them from threatening regional stability or acquiring weapons of mass destruction.

° Iraq Enforcement: The U.S. enforced United Nations economic sanctions and northern/southern no-fly zones over Iraq. This included launching targeted cruise missile strikes, such as Operation Desert Fox in December 1998, in response to Iraqi interference with UN weapons inspectors.

° Counterterrorism Strikes: Following terrorist attacks on U.S. embassies in East Africa, Clinton ordered retaliatory missile strikes against targets in Afghanistan and Sudan in 1998 linked to Osama bin Laden, who had declared war on the U.S. from his base in the region.



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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #75 on: Sunday, Aug 09, 2026 08:11 pm »
Except, of course, for Bill Clinton (1993–2001), engaging in both high-profile peace diplomacy and direct military action, including:

° The Oslo Accords: President Clinton hosted the historic 1993 signing of the Declaration of Principles between Israel and the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) at the White House.

° Israel-Jordan Treaty: The administration helped mediate and witness the official peace treaty signed between Israel and Jordan in 1994.

° Camp David Summit: Clinton made a late-term, intensive push for a final-status agreement by hosting Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat at Camp David in July 2000.

° Dual Containment: The U.S. pursued a policy meant to isolate both Iraq and Iran simultaneously, preventing them from threatening regional stability or acquiring weapons of mass destruction.

° Iraq Enforcement: The U.S. enforced United Nations economic sanctions and northern/southern no-fly zones over Iraq. This included launching targeted cruise missile strikes, such as Operation Desert Fox in December 1998, in response to Iraqi interference with UN weapons inspectors.

° Counterterrorism Strikes: Following terrorist attacks on U.S. embassies in East Africa, Clinton ordered retaliatory missile strikes against targets in Afghanistan and Sudan in 1998 linked to Osama bin Laden, who had declared war on the U.S. from his base in the region.

lol

This list is priceless.
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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #76 on: Sunday, Aug 09, 2026 08:36 pm »
lol

This list is priceless.

But not nearly as priceless as you thinking the policy of the US for the 8 years leading to 9/11 was to not get involved in the Middle East and its blood feuds.  88devil

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When is the US going to accept that getting involved in the Middle East and its blood feuds is a complete waste of our attention, time, money, resources and blood?  What's it going to take?

That was essentially our policy for eight years before 9/11 happened.

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« Reply #77 on: Sunday, Aug 09, 2026 08:59 pm »
But not nearly as priceless as you thinking the policy of the US for the 8 years leading to 9/11 was to not get involved in the Middle East and its blood feuds.  88devil

It's not often I see anyone here defend Jimmy Carter, especially on points as weak as the ones you brought up.  Let's begin with Oslo.  Clinton hosted the signing here in the US after less than a year in office.  Clinton's contribution?  The pens.  Oh, and the Oslo wars that followed.

The Israel-Jordan peace treaty:  Clinton's contribution?  He paid Jordan $700 million to sign it.  That's it.  Oh, and again the pens.  That's quite the involvement, lol.

Camp David 2000:  Nothing accomplished.  Clinton fails to win his Nobel.

Dual containment:  Pretty much pissed everyone off.  Not much action.  But lots of failure. 

Iraq enforcement:  Clinton did enjoy bombing Iraq from time to time and enforcing the no-fly zone.  But his inaction enforcing the ceasefire agreement from the first Gulf War led to the second.

Counter-intelligence strikes:  Neither Sudan nor Afghanistan are in the Middle East.

But hey, I did get quite the laugh seeing you defend Bill Clinton.
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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #78 on: Sunday, Aug 09, 2026 10:41 pm »
It's not often I see anyone here defend Jimmy Carter, especially on points as weak as the ones you brought up.  Let's begin with Oslo.  Clinton hosted the signing here in the US after less than a year in office.  Clinton's contribution?  The pens.  Oh, and the Oslo wars that followed.

The Israel-Jordan peace treaty:  Clinton's contribution?  He paid Jordan $700 million to sign it.  That's it.  Oh, and again the pens.  That's quite the involvement, lol.

Camp David 2000:  Nothing accomplished.  Clinton fails to win his Nobel.

Dual containment:  Pretty much pissed everyone off.  Not much action.  But lots of failure. 

Iraq enforcement:  Clinton did enjoy bombing Iraq from time to time and enforcing the no-fly zone.  But his inaction enforcing the ceasefire agreement from the first Gulf War led to the second.

All proving my point that getting involved in the Middle East is a colossal waste of time, energy, focus and resources.

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Counter-intelligence strikes:  Neither Sudan nor Afghanistan are in the Middle East.

Splitting hairs here ... Afghanistan was Bin laden's second home housing his AQ base, which Clinton tried to dismantle ---- and went after AQ in  Sudan.  These bombings may have been Clinton's only good moves in eight years ----

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But hey, I did get quite the laugh seeing you defend Bill Clinton.

I hope you're still laughing when you sober up and realize I didn't defend Bill Clinton but used his presidency to prove: 1.  your ignorance about events in the eight years before 9/11 and  2. my thesis that US involvement with Mid East political blood feuds should be outlawed.-- Period.

I'll take the win-win.  Thanks for your help.  :laugh:






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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #79 on: Sunday, Aug 09, 2026 11:22 pm »
LOL!!!!
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They call us 'primitives'
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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #81 on: Monday, Aug 10, 2026 02:08 am »
That was essentially our policy for eight years before 9/11 happened.

Goes even further than that, back to Nixon in 1973, with the first big airlift of weapons to Israel during the Yom Kippur War, the ensuing Arab oil embargo, and the rise of Arafat and the PLO, the PFLP, and the Black September terrorist organizations.
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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
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Why do you have disdain for a US President who prevents the slaughter of his troops and the depletion of his military arsenal ---- even as he continues to work for the regional security and acceptance of a purported "greatest ally" ---- the ally led by a man who lies to obscure his unabated murderous rampage through the region?


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1948–1949: Arab-Israeli War. Israel declares independence. Egypt, Transjordan, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq declare war immediately afterward.

1950–1955: Repeated Palestinian fedayeen infiltration and attacks from neighboring territory.

1956: Sinai/Suez War amid escalating Egyptian-Israeli conflict, fedayeen attacks and the blockade of Israeli shipping.

1957–1966: Continuing border infiltrations, shootings, raids and Syrian-Israeli clashes. Even the UN’s own history describes 1950–1967 as an “insecure peace” repeatedly punctuated by violence and force.

1967: Six-Day War. Egypt expelled the UN force from Sinai and massed troops there, closed the Straits of Tiran; war ensued after which Jordan and Syria entered the war.

1968–1970: War of Attrition, particularly along the Suez Canal. U.S. records expressly identify the 1969–70 War of Attrition as another Arab-Israeli war period.

1971–1972: Palestinian militant attacks continue, including the 1972 Munich massacre of Israeli Olympic athletes.

1973: Yom Kippur War. Egypt and Syria launch a surprise attack on Israel.

1974–1977: Continuing PLO cross-border terrorism and attacks.

1978: Coastal Road massacre.
Palestinian militants kill dozens of Israeli civilians.

1979–1981: PLO attacks

1983–1986: Continuing Palestinian and Lebanese-based terrorism and border attacks.

1987–1993: First Intifada. Hamas is founded in 1987 and joins the terrorism.

1994–1999: Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad conduct a major suicide-bombing campaign during the Oslo peace process.

2000–2005: Second Intifada. Suicide bombings, shootings and other attacks produce one of the deadliest sustained terror campaigns Israel had experienced.

2005: Israel removes all settlements and its permanent military presence from Gaza.

2006: Hamas and allied militants attack near Kerem Shalom and kidnap Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit. Hezbollah crosses Israel’s northern border, kills and kidnaps Israeli soldiers, triggering the Second Lebanon War.

2007: Hamas violently takes control of Gaza. Rocket attacks on southern Israel continue.

2008–2009: Large-scale Hamas rocket fire and Gaza War.

2010: Gaza rocket and mortar attacks continue.

2011: Rocket attacks, including escalation from Gaza; cross-border terrorist attack near Eilat.

2012: Hamas stars war.

2013: Rocket attacks and other Palestinian terrorism continue.

2014: Hamas stars war.

2015: Major stabbing, shooting and vehicle-ramming terror wave begins.

2016: Stabbings, shootings and vehicle attacks continue.

2017: Shooting, stabbing and vehicular terrorist attacks continue.

2018: Gaza border violence, incendiary attacks, rockets and mortars.

2019: Multiple major Gaza rocket escalations.

2020: Terror attacks continue despite a comparatively quieter Gaza front. Israel records both West Bank/Jerusalem attacks and rocket fire from Gaza that year.

2021: Hamas fires thousands of rockets toward Israel during the May war.

2022: Major Palestinian shooting and stabbing attacks, including a wave against Israeli cities.

2023: Palestinian terrorism continues through the year, culminating in October 7, the Hamas-led invasion, mass killing and hostage-taking.

2024: Hamas war continues; Hezbollah fires from Lebanon; Iran launches a massive direct missile/drone attack on Israel in April and another ballistic-missile attack in October.

2025: Palestinian terrorism and attacks from Iranian-backed groups continue amid the wider regional war.

2026: Attacks and regional fighting have continued into the present period.

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Re: Trump says 'Board of Peace' reaches Gaza disarmament deal
« Reply #83 on: Monday, Aug 10, 2026 08:28 am »
Yea lol, because of Netenyahu there will never be peace.

That's the gist of all those articles from the New York Times that a certain Member keeps posting.  Since the NYT is behind a paywall, most Briefers never read them, so I assume she has a paid subscription.
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