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Title: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: Sanguine on January 19, 2017, 12:14:27 am
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Barack Obama

President Obama has granted changes to the prison sentences of 209 people, in the days before he leaves office.

He also pardoned 64 others, in one of his final acts as US president.

One of the most controversial releases is that of Chelsea Manning, the transgender US Army private who leaked confidential messages to Wikileaks.

Neither a pardon (doing away with a conviction) nor a commutation (changing a sentence) is an acceptance of innocence.

They're granted when convicted criminals are believed to have fulfilled their debt to society, or are seen as deserving for some reason.
Dwight J Loving - serving a death sentence

He was convicted of murdering two taxi drivers while he was a soldier in 1989 and has been on death row ever since.

His offences included pre-mediated murder, attempted murder and armed robbery. He was one of six military personnel facing the death penalty in the US.

Loving's death sentence has been commuted to life imprisonment with some conditions....

In case you're curious.
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: bigheadfred on January 19, 2017, 12:44:02 am
In case you're curious.

I'm curious if you have a link?
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: Sanguine on January 19, 2017, 12:45:15 am
I'm curious if you have a link?

Yeah, well, you're a very curious guy.

Sorry, here it is:  http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/38661666/the-other-people-who-president-obama-pardoned-in-his-final-act
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: txradioguy on January 19, 2017, 12:57:07 am
And yet there are soldiers in Leavenworth who did nothing wrong under the rules of war in Iraq and Afghanistan who don't get as lucky as Bradley Manning or that FALN thug.
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: bigheadfred on January 19, 2017, 01:00:03 am
And yet there are soldiers in Leavenworth who did nothing wrong under the rules of war in Iraq and Afghanistan who don't get as lucky as Bradley Manning or that FALN thug.

Like my nephew. He' isn't in Leavenworth now, but he did seven years.
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: txradioguy on January 19, 2017, 01:02:06 am
Like my nephew. He' isn't in Leavenworth now, but he did seven years.

Sorry to hear that.
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: Sanguine on January 19, 2017, 01:03:51 am
And, the two Border Patrol officers, still imprisoned I think.
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: txradioguy on January 19, 2017, 01:05:05 am
And, the two Border Patrol officers, still imprisoned I think.

Crap I forgot about those two!
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: 240B on January 19, 2017, 01:09:08 am
The rumor that seems to be on fire right now is that Obama intends to issue an pardon for himself immediately before he leaves office.
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: txradioguy on January 19, 2017, 01:11:15 am
The rumor that seems to be on fire right now is that Obama intends to issue an pardon for himself immediately before he leaves office.

That honestly wouldn't surprise me either.
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: bigheadfred on January 19, 2017, 01:41:15 am
Sorry to hear that.

His entire family stood up for him. He is all right (now). Put his life back together with his wife and kids. He has an uncle that went through a similar thing that did a lot to help him out. He gave his uncle a big hug at the celebration event after his release and said exactly the right thing. Thank you.
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: txradioguy on January 19, 2017, 01:58:04 am
His entire family stood up for him. He is all right (now). Put his life back together with his wife and kids. He has an uncle that went through a similar thing that did a lot to help him out. He gave his uncle a big hug at the celebration event after his release and said exactly the right thing. Thank you.

I'm glad he came through that ok.
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: txradioguy on January 19, 2017, 01:58:54 am
Here's one travesty of justice that deserves a pardon that sadly won't come.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/world/national-security/army-officer-convicted-in-shooting-deaths-of-2-afghans/2013/08/01/6ec9aca6-fae0-11e2-a369-d1954abcb7e3_story.html?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: TomSea on January 19, 2017, 04:31:07 am
Baseball legend Willie McCovey pardoned for tax evasion.  I'm not sure if I am for any pardoning but I might go with this one.
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 19, 2017, 04:48:34 am
This loser is already at 212 pardons and over 1300 commutations......and the doozies usually come right before he walks out of the WH for the last time.
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: corbe on January 19, 2017, 10:58:35 pm
   He's still got @ 18 hours to pardon hellary.
   The precedent has been set, Bill pardoned Marc Rich just hours before GWB was sworn in.
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: Frank Cannon on January 19, 2017, 11:02:54 pm
   He's still got @ 18 hours to pardon hellary.
   The precedent has been set, Bill pardoned Marc Rich just hours before GWB was sworn in.

You are thinking too small. I bet he pardons all drug felonies.
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: bigheadfred on January 19, 2017, 11:26:38 pm
You are thinking too small. I bet he pardons all drug felonies.

Just the weed smokers and trippers. Some of that other crap is unpardonable.
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: 240B on January 19, 2017, 11:29:02 pm
You are thinking too small. I bet he pardons all drug felonies.
Go even bigger still. Why doesn't he simply pardon all Black people and get it over with. I'm sure in his racist mind all Black people and all Muslims are always innocent in every case regardless of the facts.
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: flowers on January 19, 2017, 11:34:01 pm
Go even bigger still. Why doesn't he simply pardon all Black people and get it over with. I'm sure in his racist mind all Black people and all Muslims are always innocent in every case regardless of the facts.
ap reported earlier.....http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/19/in-final-act-as-president-obama-commutes-330-drug-sentences.html
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: 240B on January 19, 2017, 11:45:22 pm
I don't like Obama and I certainly do not trust him at all.


I am genuinely concerned about what he may do in these final hours. He could have something really catastrophic in mind and he is just waiting for his final hour to spring it.


I will not feel comfortable until he is out of office.
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: corbe on January 20, 2017, 12:09:25 am
Besides hellary and her lawyer mills, he could pardon huma and weiner (weak links in email server chain), holder (contempt charge and fast and furious), lynch and her boss koskinen (tea party audits), this should protect his most glaring deficiencies of his legacy.
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: Sanguine on January 20, 2017, 12:37:25 am
Besides hellary and her lawyer mills, he could pardon huma and weiner (weak links in email server chain), holder (contempt charge and fast and furious), lynch and her boss koskinen (tea party audits), this should protect his most glaring deficiencies of his legacy.

That and the IRS woman - forgot her name.
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: txradioguy on January 20, 2017, 12:57:09 am
That and the IRS woman - forgot her name.

Lois Lerner.
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: 240B on January 20, 2017, 12:58:05 am
Lerner
Title: Re: The other people who President Obama pardoned in his 'final act'
Post by: Sanguine on January 20, 2017, 02:03:14 am
Lois Lerner.

That's the one.