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Cruz Praises Harry Reid at CPAC: Thanks For the Most Conservative Cabinet in Decades
Rusty Featured Contributor February 23, 2017
During a ‘Conversation about the Constitution’ segment at today’s Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), Senator Ted Cruz took a moment to destroy former Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) for setting the stage for the Democrats’ worst nightmare: allowing President Trump to get all of his cabinet picks confirmed.
Reid was behind the dramatic move to eliminate filibusters for most nominations by presidents when Democrats held control of the Senate and it was President Obama who was making nominations.
That move has come back to bite Reid and the weakened Democrat Party in the butt… Big League!
“Since January 20th I’ve raised the glass and toasted Harry Reid,” Cruz joked. “Because Harry Reid employed the so-called ‘nuclear option,’ broke the Senate rules to change the Senate rules, lowered the threshold for confirmation from 60 votes to 51 votes and it is a direct result of Harry Reid that we now have the most conservative cabinet in decades.”
Read more: http://thepoliticalinsider.com/ted-cruz-harry-reid-thanks-most-conservative-cabinet-decades/#ixzz4ZoFn0hXo
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Well he's got a point. Whether Dingy Harry knows it or not he's done US a favor.
Let's just hope Turtle remembers to close that particular loophole when Republicans lost the majority.
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Cruz says Trump's cabinet is the most conservative in decades so good luck with the assertion Trump is not conservative, maybe he doesn't fill in every nook and cranny but:
Pro-Life
Border
Defense
States Rights.
He is certainly is doing well on some fronts.
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Well he's got a point. Whether Dingy Harry knows it or not he's done US a favor.
Let's just hope Turtle remembers to close that particular loophole when Republicans lost the majority.
I still can't, for the life of me, figure out why Oilcan Harry didn't fix that on the way out. I was really expecting him to schedule a vote on that in December.
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Cruz says Trump's cabinet is the most conservative in decades so good luck with the assertion Trump is not conservative, maybe he doesn't fill in every nook and cranny but:
Pro-Life
Border
Defense
States Rights.
He is certainly is doing well on some fronts.
Neither Bush was Conservative yet they had some very Conservative members of their Cabinet.
Your defense of Trump holds no water.
And the things you list...hes talked a good game so far...but there's been no meaningful substance yet.
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I still can't, for the life of me, figure out why Oilcan Harry didn't fix that on the way out. I was really expecting him to schedule a vote on that in December.
I think it points to the fatal arrogance of thr Libs.
They were so sure they were gonna win they didn't think they needed to fix it.
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Is this now the umpteenth time the Cruz supporters disagree with Cruz?
000hehehehe
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And yet on another thread I have all the usual suspects telling me Trump is not a conservative. Well maybe is isn't but he is sure doing one hell of a good imitation.
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Is this now the umpteenth time the Cruz supporters disagree with Cruz?
000hehehehe
I agree with Cruz. My disagreement is with your misguided use of his words as a flaccid defense of Trump as the Conservative.
He's not. Time you and some others accept that.
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And yet on another thread I have all the usual suspects telling me Trump is not a conservative. Well maybe is isn't but he is sure doing one hell of a good imitation.
He's not Conservative.
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He's not Conservative.
What the hell does this even mean?
@txradioguy
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He's not Conservative.
Just selects a conservative cabinet, we get it.
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What the hell does this even mean?
@txradioguy
Trump is not Conservative. Do I need to use smaller words? Or write in crayon?
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Just selects a conservative cabinet, we get it.
As I said...so did Bush 41 and 43. RINO's and Rockefeller Republicans...or Dems who become Republicans shortly before they run for President...tend to do that to try and mask their shortcomings when it comes to their Conservative bona fides.
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Trump is not Conservative. Do I need to use smaller words? Or write in crayon?
He believes in smaller government with less regulation.
He believes controlling to flow of people coming here.
He believes in America First trade policies.
He believes in securing our borders.
He believes in enforcing the rule of law.
He believes in a strong military.
He believes education policies should be set locally.
He believes in tax reform.
He believes in health care reform.
He does not believe in man made global warming.
Please tell me which of the above is not a conservative belief?
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He's not Conservative.
He's a hell of a lot more Conservative than Hillary would have been.
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He believes in smaller government with less regulation.
He believes controlling to flow of people coming here.
He believes in America First trade policies.
He believes in securing our borders.
He believes in enforcing the rule of law.
He believes in a strong military.
He believes education policies should be set locally.
He believes in tax reform.
He believes in health care reform.
He does not believe in man made global warming.
Please tell me which of the above is not a conservative belief?
That's a good summary.
Some of us watched old Reaganite/Nixon hand Pat Buchanan be the Conservative on Crossfire or at another time, Robert Novak. Some of us could identify with that.
Trump really does take a lot from Buchanan. So, the naysayers in ways, just don't make sense.
Their only way out is to now say Buchanan is not conservative, then, Ron Paul is not conservative and so on. Nobody will think exactly as we as individuals do.
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He believes in smaller government with less regulation.
He believes controlling to flow of people coming here.
He believes in America First trade policies.
He believes in securing our borders.
He believes in enforcing the rule of law.
He believes in a strong military.
He believes education policies should be set locally.
He believes in tax reform.
He believes in health care reform.
He does not believe in man made global warming.
Please tell me which of the above is not a conservative belief?
It all sounds great,, but the problem is a lot of us have heard that stuff from politicians before, and have been burned because many of the bullet points weren't true, just pandering. Only some time in office will expose his true beliefs. I'm taking a cautiously hopeful stance, as are many others.
Please try to leaven your criticism of folks who just aren't as sure as you are about Donald Trump.
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Neither Bush was Conservative yet they had some very Conservative members of their Cabinet.
Your defense of Trump holds no water.
And the things you list...hes talked a good game so far...but there's been no meaningful substance yet.
C'mon, tex, at least give him 7 or 8 weeks.
Still wondering what the Trump nitpickers want....do they want Trump impeached? Or maybe just killed by a stray bullet. Do they want the lunatic fringe to win?
I fought tooth and nail against the guy but I lost and he won. And so far, yeah, he's still a jerk, but I like all his cabinet picks which is pretty remarkable. I like his Supreme Court pick. I like the fact that he wants to reduce regulations on business and give big and small business a shot in the arm
And I like that Trump, unlike dims and bleeding hearts, realizes that letting Muslims overrun the country is not a great idea. Hello, Sweden.
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He believes in smaller government with less regulation.
How much more regulation do you think there is going to be with his single payer health care plan?
Do you realize how much the regulatory arm is going to have to expand to regulate his upcoming tariff war?
He supports his daughter (and chief policy advisor) call for universal daycare.
How is that less regulation?
That's not smaller Government....that's an expansion.
He believes controlling to flow of people coming here.
Unless he needs foreign workers at mar-A-Largo. Or to build Trump tower.
And last I looked the illegals are still coming. Where's his EO instructing the Border patrol to step up enforcement of the border?
Why hasn't he told the border state Governors to get their NG units to the border and secure it and we (The Feds) will pay for it?
He believes in America First trade policies.
That's not Conservative. It's nationalistic and will harm our economy.
He believes in securing our borders.
So he says.
He believes in enforcing the rule of law.
Really? How so?
He believes in a strong military.
He's talked a good game...but again like with everything Trump...all smoke...no fire.
He believes education policies should be set locally.
Then why isn't he proposing legislation to dismantle the Dept. of Ed? Why did he ire a secretary for that agency that believes in Common Core?
He believes in tax reform.
SUre he does. We all know his statements on the Reagan tax cuts that gave America the roaring economy that lasted into the 21st Century.
He believes in health care reform
Single payer...what Obama was really wanting...is NOT healthcare reform.
He does not believe in man made global warming.
But his chief policy advisor...Ivanka does.
Please tell me which of the above is not a conservative belief?
Just pointed out the fallacies and vapidness of your defense of our RINO President.
Not that a true believer like you would ever admit any of it is right.
He's got all these grand schemes and big pronouncements that go nowhere...sound and fury signifying nothing...when he could be more effective with a series of smaller steps that would show his bite is just as mean as his bark.
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C'mon, tex, at least give him 7 or 8 weeks.
Still wondering what the Trump nitpickers want....do they want Trump impeached? Or maybe just killed by a stray bullet. Do they want the lunatic fringe to win?
I fought tooth and nail against the guy but I lost and he won. And so far, yeah, he's still a jerk, but I like all his cabinet picks which is pretty remarkable. I like his Supreme Court pick. I like the fact that he wants to reduce regulations on business and give big and small business a shot in the arm
And I like that Trump, unlike dims and bleeding hearts, realizes that letting Muslims overrun the country is not a great idea. Hello, Sweden.
According to all the acolytes before he was sworn in...he was going to fulfill all his promises before the first 100 days was up?
Those of us that were skeptical of Donny...that saw the flaws in what he was saying...are just holding him accountable for what he promised and his fanboi's said he would deliver on.
Me personally...I'd just like his defenders to start living in reality.
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That's a good summary.
Some of us watched old Reaganite/Nixon hand Pat Buchanan be the Conservative on Crossfire or at another time, Robert Novak. Some of us could identify with that.
Trump really does take a lot from Buchanan. So, the naysayers in ways, just don't make sense.
Their only way out is to now say Buchanan is not conservative, then, Ron Paul is not conservative and so on. Nobody will think exactly as we as individuals do.
It would be a very wise move to bring Pat into his circle of advisers. Pat is one very smart man. I would not necessarily make Pat part of the Trump administration. Progressives would have a fit. But I'd have him on call when I was trying to think thru a issue. Ron Paul is very good on domestic issues. Always enjoy getting his take on things domestic, now on foreign policy his is a nut job. LOL
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It all sounds great,, but the problem is a lot of us have heard that stuff from politicians before, and have been burned because many of the bullet points weren't true, just pandering. Only some time in office will expose his true beliefs. I'm taking a cautiously hopeful stance, as are many others.
Please try to leaven your criticism of folks who just aren't as sure as you are about Donald Trump.
I'm not critical of anyone sans the NeverTrumpers that attack Trump daily.
I too have worries about Trump backing off of his campaign promises. But like you an hopeful that finally there is a president that says what he means and means what he says. I am not liking what I am hearing on Mexico from the SoS and I am not liking the Bush like appointments at the NSC.
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"Cautiously optimistic" is the phrase I hear most.
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Agree with @Emjay. @txradioguy give him some time and let's see what he does. This rule to sunset two regulations for every new one is a fantastic, conservative idea. As has been pointed out on this thread, he's appointed a conservative cabinet, and his first SCOTUS nominee looks great.
His cabinet isn't complete. There are still gaping holes.
He's more interested in twitter and using Alinsky tactics to go after the media than pushing to get his nominees approved in a timely manner.
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I agree with Cruz. My disagreement is with your misguided use of his words as a flaccid defense of Trump as the Conservative.
He's not. Time you and some others accept that.
Trump is a way more conservative president than Cruz is and I supported Cruz in the primaries.
We need to get Cruz more involved than just pushing for conservative judges.
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Trump is a way more conservative president than Cruz is
:silly: yeah sure...and I'm the Pope.
and I supported Cruz in the primaries.
yeah...sure you did.
We need to get Cruz more involved than pushing for conservative judges.
He's always pushed for that...and for term limits for the judges too.
You need to pay more attention to what's going on....stop just spewing mindless propaganda.
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Actually watch and Levin to see what I mean. Would like to see Cruz more involved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgzblm82-AM
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Actually watch and Levin to see what I mean. Would like to see Cruz more involved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgzblm82-AM
If you wanted Cruz involved you should have supported him over Trump.
You didn't.
Oh and still waiting for you to back up your moronic claim that Trump is the more Conservative than Cruz.
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Look at my posting history. Folks here know. Think you came here after me.
:silly: yeah sure...and I'm the Pope.
yeah...sure you did.
He's always pushed for that...and for term limits for the judges too.
You need to pay more attention to what's going on....stop just spewing mindless propaganda.
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You didn't.
You are lying . Look at my posting history.
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You are lying . Look at my posting history.
*yawn*
Still waiting for you to back up your moronic claim that Trump is the more Conservative than Cruz.
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@Right_in_Virginia
@truth_seeker
Would remember otherwise , since we used to disagree in the primaries.
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Actually watch Cruz and Levin to see what I mean. Would like to see Cruz more involved.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rgzblm82-AM
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@Right_in_Virginia
@truth_seeker
Would remember otherwise , since we used to disagree in the primaries.
Still waiting for you to back up your moronic claim that Trump is the more Conservative than Cruz.
Bring all the Trump shills you want to in your defense. Not gonna help.
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Still waiting for you to back up your moronic claim that Trump is the more Conservative than Cruz.
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@txradioguy @LonestarDream
I can attest that LD was not particularly pro-Trump, I thought I even got something right before the election that was urging one not to vote for Trump. IF I have this correct, apologies if I am wrong and I will retract and delete my statement.
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Still waiting for you to back up your moronic claim that Trump is the more Conservative than Cruz.
Bring all the Trump shills you want to in your defense. Not gonna help.
Ad hominem attacks only hurt your credibility more. You certainly have been abusive of a number of members lately.
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Still waiting for you to back up your moronic claim that Trump is the more Conservative than Cruz.
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/read-ted-cruzs-2009-defense-of-obamas-stimulus-as-an-aid-to-americas-economic-recovery_042015
Cruz defended the Obama stimulus, Cruz wants more green cards, Cruz wants more H1B1 visas. Hardly conservative positions.
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@txradioguy @LonestarDream
I can attest that LD was not particularly pro-Trump, I thought I even got something right before the election that was urging one not to vote for Trump. IF I have this correct, apologies if I am wrong and I will retract and delete my statement.
you got it right. And I still like Cruz, which is why I am posting his CPAC appearance.
I want to see Cruz help more to repeal Obamacare, for example.
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Ad hominem attacks only hurt your credibility more.
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Speaking of credibility.
Still waiting for you to back up your moronic claim that Trump is the more Conservative than Cruz.
Oh and look up the definition of ad hominem. YOu're using the phrase wrong.
You certainly have been abusive of a number of members lately.
Define "lately".
I haven't been here most of this month. You seem to have a real problem with making factual statements.
You should really work on that.
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Governors Walker and Perry have actually had to lead, do things.
It's pretty easy for Senators to claim this or that but in the end, those are their words. That's good to an extent but still limited for me.
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http://www.thedailysheeple.com/read-ted-cruzs-2009-defense-of-obamas-stimulus-as-an-aid-to-americas-economic-recovery_042015
Cruz defended the Obama stimulus, Cruz wants more green cards, Cruz wants more H1B1 visas. Hardly conservative positions.
Trump made Cruz more conservative on illegals . That is for sure.
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you got it right. And I still like Cruz, which is why I am posting his CPAC appearance.
Still waiting for you to back up your moronic claim that Trump is the more Conservative than Cruz.
I want to Cruz help more to repeal Obamacare, for example.
It's not up to Ted. That's up to the leadership in the House and Senate.
And your Dear Leader wants something worse than Obamacare to replace what's there now.
Be careful what you wish for.
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Trump made Cruz more conservative on illegals . That is for sure.
Pure unadulterated bullsh*t.
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http://www.thedailysheeple.com/read-ted-cruzs-2009-defense-of-obamas-stimulus-as-an-aid-to-americas-economic-recovery_042015
Cruz defended the Obama stimulus, Cruz wants more green cards, Cruz wants more H1B1 visas. Hardly conservative positions.
If ever there was a link that defined the term Trump and his minions like to toss around..."FAKE NEWS!!!!"...you just posted it.
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Governors Walker and Perry have actually had to lead, do things.
It's pretty easy for Senators to claim this or that but in the end, those are their words. That's good to an extent but still limited for me.
Perry didn't really lead squat. He just had to make sure he didn't screw anything up that the Republicans in the State House and Senate were doing.
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How much more regulation do you think there is going to be with his single payer health care plan?
Do you realize how much the regulatory arm is going to have to expand to regulate his upcoming tariff war?
He supports his daughter (and chief policy advisor) call for universal daycare.
How is that less regulation?
That's not smaller Government....that's an expansion.
Unless he needs foreign workers at mar-A-Largo. Or to build Trump tower.
And last I looked the illegals are still coming. Where's his EO instructing the Border patrol to step up enforcement of the border?
Why hasn't he told the border state Governors to get their NG units to the border and secure it and we (The Feds) will pay for it?
That's not Conservative. It's nationalistic and will harm our economy.
So he says.
Really? How so?
He's talked a good game...but again like with everything Trump...all smoke...no fire.
Then why isn't he proposing legislation to dismantle the Dept. of Ed? Why did he ire a secretary for that agency that believes in Common Core?
SUre he does. We all know his statements on the Reagan tax cuts that gave America the roaring economy that lasted into the 21st Century.
Single payer...what Obama was really wanting...is NOT healthcare reform.
But his chief policy advisor...Ivanka does.
Just pointed out the fallacies and vapidness of your defense of our RINO President.
Not that a true believer like you would ever admit any of it is right.
He's got all these grand schemes and big pronouncements that go nowhere...sound and fury signifying nothing...when he could be more effective with a series of smaller steps that would show his bite is just as mean as his bark.
Oh, boy.
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Pure unadulterated bullsh*t.
You are not listening or paying attention to any timeline.
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You are not listening or paying attention to any timeline.
Still waiting for you to back up your moronic claim that Trump is the more Conservative than Cruz.
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Now that Sessions is gone, Cruz IS the leadership in the Senate.
Still waiting for you to back up your moronic claim that Trump is the more Conservative than Cruz.
It's not up to Ted. That's up to the leadership in the House and Senate.
And your Dear Leader wants something worse than Obamacare to replace what's there now.
Be careful what you wish for.
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Now that Sessions is gone, Cruz IS the leadership in the Senate.
He is? Did they hold a new election for leadership positions that no one knows about?
Lets check.
Senate Majority Leader: Senator Mitch McConnell
Assistant Majority Leader: Senator John Cornyn
Majority Chief Deputy Whip: Senator Mike Crapo
Conference Chairman: Senator John Thune
Senate Republican Conference Vice Chairman: Senator Roy Blunt
Senate Republican Policy Committee Chairman: Senator John Barrasso
NRSC Chairman: Senator Cory Gardner
http://conginst.org/senate-republican-leadership-positions/
Please show me where I missed the Junior Senator from Texas anywhere in the leadership in the Senate.
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De facto leader. Who else is left? It is not McCain or McConnell .
He is? Did they hold a new election for leadership positions that no one knows about?
Lets check.
Senate Majority Leader: Senator Mitch McConnell
Assistant Majority Leader: Senator John Cornyn
Majority Chief Deputy Whip: Senator Mike Crapo
Conference Chairman: Senator John Thune
Senate Republican Conference Vice Chairman: Senator Roy Blunt
Senate Republican Policy Committee Chairman: Senator John Barrasso
NRSC Chairman: Senator Cory Gardner
http://conginst.org/senate-republican-leadership-positions/
Please show me where I missed the Junior Senator from Texas anywhere in the leadership in the Senate.
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And your Dear Leader wants something worse than Obamacare to replace what's there now.
Why not stop shrilling the usual :bs: hyperbole and post a link to the plan the President has proposed since taking office @txradioguy ?
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Why not stop shrilling the usual :bs: hyperbole and post a link to the plan the President has proposed since taking office @txradioguy ?
:beer:
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He is? Did they hold a new election for leadership positions that no one knows about?
Lets check.
Senate Majority Leader: Senator Mitch McConnell
Assistant Majority Leader: Senator John Cornyn
Majority Chief Deputy Whip: Senator Mike Crapo
Conference Chairman: Senator John Thune
Senate Republican Conference Vice Chairman: Senator Roy Blunt
Senate Republican Policy Committee Chairman: Senator John Barrasso
NRSC Chairman: Senator Cory Gardner
http://conginst.org/senate-republican-leadership-positions/
Please show me where I missed the Junior Senator from Texas anywhere in the leadership in the Senate.
So, Cruz hasn't done hardly anything in real world accomplishments if Cruz was your man.
Also, NRA totally backs Trump.
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He is? Did they hold a new election for leadership positions that no one knows about?
Is not Senator Cruz, former candidate for President of the United States, the de factor leader of the conservative wing of the Senate @txradioguy ?
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@Right_in_Virginia
@truth_seeker
Thanks for the ping @LonestarDream
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Is not Senator Cruz, former candidate for President of the United States, the de factor leader of the conservative wing of the Senate @txradioguy ?
Exactly. And I am for BOTH Cruz and Trump. Cruz is doing well on judges. He now needs to help MORE with ObamaCare.
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De facto leader. Who else is left? It is not McCain or McConnell .
Uh-huh. You're new to this political stuff aren't you?
McConnell is out there bragging he got Trump elected.
McConnell hates Cruz...for exposing his lies about repealing Obamacare.
Who do you think was leaking negative things about Cruz to Politico and HuffPo?
McConnell...and McCain among others. Wouldn't surprise me if that doofus Cornyn did as well.
Trump has said he'd back someone to primary Cruz.
So you tell me how exactly Ted Cruz...whom I voted for in November as a write in on my Texas ballot...is going to be in any position to be in a leadership role as long the situation remains like it is now int he GOP?
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Is not Senator Cruz, former candidate for President of the United States, the de factor leader of the conservative wing of the Senate @txradioguy ?
He is...but as I explained above...he's not in a position to do much with a bunch of RINO Trump cronies holding the real power....and a President who has said he'll back a candidate who runs against him next time he's up for election.
Anytime you see a stout Conservative being primaried...you can bet that McConnell's Senatorial slush fund is behind it. That's how Mitch takes care of people that don't tow the line.
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Still waiting for you to back up your moronic claim that Trump is the more Conservative than Cruz.
That's okay. Some of us are still waiting for you to prove that Cruz is more conservative than the President @txradioguy
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If the Senate needs new leadership; perhaps that is up to the Senate; of course, in this, the people's hero won't get any blame.
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Thanks for the ping @LonestarDream
I think the Scott Adams cognitive dissonance thing is in play here. Or we have closet liberals here who do not want to WIN!!! Remember, Kelly Anne worked for Cruz first.
Why not have Cruz as Senate Leader and Pence as President in 2024? Am fine with a Coolidge mentality after Trump cleans house.
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He is...but as I explained above...he's not in a position to do much
Well, you certainly have this tied up in a neat little bow --- "yes, Cruz is a leader .... he just can't lead". Got it. 888blackhat
@txradioguy
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Well, you certainly have this tied up in a neat little bow --- "yes, Cruz is a leader .... he just can't lead". Got it. 888blackhat
@txradioguy
Trump called out Cruz and said that Cruz was the toughest competitor that Trump ever had to deal with.
I dont think Trump takes this stuff so personally. Even 'pathological' Carson is now running HUD.
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That's okay. Some of us are still waiting for you to prove that Cruz is more conservative than the President @txradioguy
Maybe Trump and Sessions need to angle for Cruz to become Majority Leader.
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That's okay. Some of us are still waiting for you to prove that Cruz is more conservative than the President @txradioguy
That challenge wasn't out there...but since you want to swoop in and try to save LSD froim the BS he/she/it was spewing...here goes.
Cruz has a 97% Conservative rating from Conservative Reviews Liberty Scorecard and a 100% Conservative Rating from the American Conservative Union.
Conservative Review scored Trump as only "good" on two issues for 2016 versus Clinton and Johnson...the environment and education...the rest were either bad (free market, healthcare, immigration and civil liberties) or mixed (budget, foreign policy/defense, moral issues 2nd Amendment and taxes).
I am unable to find an ACU score for Trump...but given the fact he pulled out of an appearance there last year and the low attendance this year...I'm betting it's not good.
Now if you'd like for me to rehash the very long and detailed list of quotes...donations...public statements etc etc that show Trump isn't Conservative and certainly isn't more Conservative than Cruz...I'll be happy to do that.
And at the end of the day it does nothing but distract from the fact that LSD can't show anything that backs up the statement that was made that:
Trump is the more Conservative than Cruz.
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Well, you certainly have this tied up in a neat little bow --- "yes, Cruz is a leader .... he just can't lead". Got it. 888blackhat
@txradioguy
@Right_in_Virginia Sen. Cruz is clearly a member of club of Senators that number 2 or 3, out of 50, the turtle herds the others not unlike Ryan pretty much neutered the House Freedom Caucus it's a small ineffectual club, indeed.
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Exactly. And I am for BOTH Cruz and Trump. Cruz is doing well on judges. He now needs to help MORE with ObamaCare.
I am likewise.
I want to make an announcement: I own a URL which seems appropriate, for certain members at this time
www.insultathon.com (not hosted at this time)
Bids open at a minimum bid of just 50 Texas Dollars.
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I think the Scott Adams cognitive dissonance thing is in play here. Or we have closet liberals here who do not want to WIN!!! Remember, Kelly Anne worked for Cruz first.
I'll vote for the Scott Adams cognitive dissonance "thing" @LonestarDream . The absolute, never, ever, ever neverTrumps invested all they have in their position. They will, because they have to, spew the "pretzel-logic" Adams spoke of in an effort to prove the President is a villain. :shrug:
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Maybe Trump and Sessions need to angle for Cruz to become Majority Leader.
Trump won't do that.
TODD: All right. Ted Cruz, I’m going to mend it, are you really going to fund a super PAC to help defeat Hillary in 2018?
TRUMP: Well, it’s not the number one thing on my mind. Look, what’s on my mind is beating Hillary Clinton. What’s on my mind is winning for the Republican Party. With that being said, yeah, I’ll probably do a super PAC, you know, when they run, against Kasich for 10 to $20 million dollars. Against Ted Cruz —
TODD: All right.
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/07/24/trump-ill-probably-do-a-super-pac-against-cruz-and-kasich/
And besides...Mitch wouldn't allow it. Sessions would have tampering allegations leveled at him.
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@Right_in_Virginia Sen. Cruz is clearly a member of club of Senators that number 2 or 3, out of 50, the turtle herds the others not unlike Ryan pretty much neutered the House Freedom Caucus it's a small ineffectual club, indeed.
Amazing how people fail to see that.
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Still waiting for you to back up your moronic claim that Trump is the more Conservative than Cruz.
You are on a roll. Unfortunately, it is a stale roll and has very little connection with reality.
You called me a Trumper, even though you know perfectly well that I was for Cruz all the way and was kicked out of TOS for that reason.
You need to take this old saw seriously: "The perfect is the enemy of the good."
You never say negative things about Obama or Hillary or Chuck U Schumer.
You save that for a couple of really good men who were not quite conservative enough for you... I mean the two Bushes.
You refuse to give Trump the benefit of the doubt on anything because you are so sure...in all your wisdom .... that he will screw up and not do everything to your liking.
You latch onto unfortunate things like the Flynn debacle ... Trump really had no choice since Flynn lied to Pence and put Pence on the spot by doing so. Trump has defended Flynn though.
You reach into never never land to assume that Trump will pass universal health care when there is nothing to indicate that he will do that. While in that mythical land, you also assume that he will back Ivanka's idea for child care.
Frankly, you are becoming a bore. Sorry to say that because I've always liked you, but it's true.
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You continue to abuse members. I guess Sessions as AG is worse than what Hillary would have picked.
That challenge wasn't out there...but since you want to swoop in and try to save LSD froim the BS he/she/it was spewing...here goes.
Cruz has a 97% Conservative rating from Conservative Reviews Liberty Scorecard and a 100% Conservative Rating from the American Conservative Union.
Conservative Review scored Trump as only "good" on two issues for 2016 versus Clinton and Johnson...the environment and education...the rest were either bad (free market, healthcare, immigration and civil liberties) or mixed (budget, foreign policy/defense, moral issues 2nd Amendment and taxes).
I am unable to find an ACU score for Trump...but given the fact he pulled out of an appearance there last year and the low attendance this year...I'm betting it's not good.
Now if you'd like for me to rehash the very long and detailed list of quotes...donations...public statements etc etc that show Trump isn't Conservative and certainly isn't more Conservative than Cruz...I'll be happy to do that.
And at the end of the day it does nothing but distract from the fact that LSD can't show anything that backs up the statement that was made that:
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@Right_in_Virginia Sen. Cruz is clearly a member of club of Senators that number 2 or 3, out of 50 ...
Who cares? Leaders aren't formed in temperate waters .... they're formed by fire.
This is Cruz's moment to stand and prove what he's capable of.
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You continue to abuse members. I guess Sessions as AG is worst than what Hillary would have picked.
So now presenting facts is "abusing members"?
Ok well...LOL!...you play that little game if you want to... :shrug:
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Who cares? Leaders aren't formed in temperate waters .... they're formed by fire.
This is Cruz's moment to stand and prove what he's capable of.
That's kinda funny coming from someone who did everything they could to de-legitimize the man as Conservative...as a politician and even as an American just a few short months ago.
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Is this now the umpteenth time the Cruz supporters disagree with Cruz?
000hehehehe
Aren't you a self-professed Cruz supporter?
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Who cares? Leaders aren't formed in temperate waters .... they're formed by fire.
This is Cruz's moment to stand and prove what he's capable of.
I agree and sincerely want Cruz to succeed. Because no else in The Senate has the chops.
Rubio? Well Trump had dinner with Marco....
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Now if you'd like .....
Words, words, words ... pfftt ... Give me one, concrete example, if you can, where, based on his actions, Ted Cruz is more conservative than President Trump @txradioguy
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Aren't you a self-professed Cruz supporter?
Only on Tuesday's and Thursdays, didn't you get the memo? @Sanguine
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So now presenting facts is "abusing members"?
Ok well...LOL!...you play that little game if you want to... :shrug:
LSD.... nice.
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Words, words, words ... pfftt ... Give me one, concrete example, if you can, where, based on his actions, Ted Cruz is more conservative than President Trump @txradioguy
(http://www.eduardosuastegui.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/goalpost-move.jpg)
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Only on Tuesday's and Thursdays, didn't you get the memo? @Sanguine
Darn, foiled again!
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LSD.... nice.
I do shorthand on a lot of screen names around here CL...WTF...DCp RiV...and people to TRG for mine.
Why are you getting butt hurt?
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(http://www.eduardosuastegui.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/goalpost-move.jpg)
You didn't seriously expect her to accept any evidence you would provide, did you? :shrug:
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That's kinda funny coming from someone who did everything they could to de-legitimize the man as Conservative...
No, I did not @txradioguy Please, stop making up crap about me just to avoid the subject at hand.
It is time for someone in the Senate to stand up and take the heat ... become a leader to counter McConnell. You've said it would be too hard for Cruz to do that.
I hope you're wrong.
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You didn't seriously expect her to accept any evidence you would provide, did you? :shrug:
Okay, why don't you @Cyber Liberty give me one action Cruz has taken that is more conservative than the action taken by the President?
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(http://www.eduardosuastegui.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/goalpost-move.jpg)
And your one concrete example is what, exactly, @txradioguy ?
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I do shorthand on a lot of screen names around here CL...WTF...DCp RiV...and people to TRG for mine.
Why are you getting butt hurt?
you clearly used it in the context of insinuating drug use 'bong' etc.
clever.
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Okay, why don't you @Cyber Liberty give me one action Cruz has taken that is more conservative than the action taken by the President?
No. That would be a fool's errand, as I pointed out. Find another chew toy.
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Txradio has been attacking the character of many long term members here.
No, I did not @txradioguy Please, stop making up crap about me just to avoid the subject at hand.
It is time for someone in the Senate to stand up and take the heat ... become a leader to counter McConnell. You've said it would be too hard for Cruz to do that.
I hope you're wrong.
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You didn't seriously expect her to accept any evidence you would provide, did you? :shrug:
Nope. I sure didn't. But it is fun exposing that fact :smokin:
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Okay, why don't you @Cyber Liberty give me one action Cruz has taken that is more conservative than the action taken by the President?
I really don't believe Sen. Cruz would ever be so hungry for votes as to duplicate this pic @Right_in_Virginia
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Txradio has been attacking the character of many long term members here.
Give it a rest. Seriously. YOu're taking this tact because you can't and won't answer a simple question.
It's called deflection.
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Okay, why don't you @Cyber Liberty give me one action Cruz has taken that is more conservative than the action taken by the President?
Actually read the Constitution? No, seriously, I wouldn't try to make that false equivalency. And, I will say that Trump has done a great job so far and done some very conservative things, but he will have to maintain that conservative action over time to be considered a conservative. And, I hope he does! I fully support that.
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Txradio has been attacking the character of many long term members here.
The weird thing about it is, unlike in your case, he usually cut's people from TX some slack for whatever reason.
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Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on Today at 03:23:09 PM
Okay, why don't you @Cyber Liberty give me one action Cruz has taken that is more conservative than the action taken by the President?
You won't ever catch Cruz calling for single payer healthcare either.
TRUMP: “Everybody's got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing for me to say because a lot of times they say, 'No, no, the lower 25 percent that can't afford private. But—'”
PELLEY: “Universal health care.”
TRUMP: “I am going to take care of everybody. I don't care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody's going to be taken care of much better than they're taken care of now.”
PELLEY: “The uninsured person is going to be taken care of. How? How?”
TRUMP: “They're going to be taken care of. I would make a deal with existing hospitals to take care of people. And, you know what, if this is probably—”
PELLEY: “Make a deal? Who pays for it?”
TRUMP: —the government's gonna pay for it. But we're going to save so much money on the other side. But for the most it's going to be a private plan and people are going to be able to go out and negotiate great plans with lots of different competition with lots of competitors with great companies and they can have their doctors, they can have plans, they can have everything."
BAIER: “Now, 15 years ago, you called yourself a liberal on health care. You were for a single-payer system, a Canadian-style system. Why were you for that then and why aren’t you for it now?”
TRUMP: “As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland. It could have worked in a different age, which is the age you’re talking about here. What I’d like to see is a private system without the artificial lines around every state...Get rid of the artificial lines and you will have yourself great plans. And then we have to take care of the people that can’t take care of themselves. And I will do that through a different system.”
http://ijr.com/2016/02/537107-5-times-donald-trump-praised-socialized-healthcare/
will add too taht you'd never hear or read about a Conservative like Cruz treating women in the shoddy way Trump has bragged about almost his entire adult life.
REAL Conservative men respect women...and they are pro life 24/7...not just when they feel like it.
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The weird thing about it is, unlike in your case, he usually cut's people from TX some slack for whatever reason.
There are exceptions to everything...in this case the lack of any slack is well earned.
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Give it a rest. Seriously. YOu're taking this tact because you can't and won't answer a simple question.
It's called deflection.
dont have to answer any false premise of yours. You continue to badger folks.
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dont have to answer any false premise of yours. You continue to badger folks.
You continually fail to back up an assertion you made and are not doing everything you can to avoid the subject.
And you're using the Liberal tactic of painting the person trying to pin you down for an answer as a bully.
Back up your statement with credible facts and I'll stop.
Continue to duck dodge and weave and try to play the victim card and I won't.
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Enough. Stick to the topic or I'm locking the thread.
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Enough. Stick to the topic or I'm locking the thread.
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Enough. Stick to the topic or I'm locking the thread.
From what I see, the point of the thread was it was Harry Reid who made Trump's cabinet possible because of the "Nuclear Option" Reid pulled. Cruz is correct to thank Reid, the Dems would still be filibustering all of Trump's Cabinet nominees right now.
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There are exceptions to everything...in this case the lack of any slack is well earned.
The topic is how to advance the conservative agenda. Not mis-characterizing members positions.
RIV, Emjay, Tomsea Don-o . We were all fought hard for our primary candidates. Trump is loudly encouraging the implosion of Obamacare. If Trump does not collect the taxes for example, the whole edifice collapses. That is an example of effective conservatism.
If RIV and truth_seeker can cheer Cruz in The Senate and Emjay and myself cheer Trump's actions--It is clear these members can humbly evolve beyond prior tactical positions to advance conservatism.
Then hopefully, Congress and the Senate and Trump can figure out to grow the economy and MAGA.
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From what I see, the point of the thread was it was Harry Reid who made Trump's cabinet possible because of the "Nuclear Option" Reid pulled. Cruz is correct to thank Reid, the Dems would still be filibustering all of Trump's Cabinet nominees right now.
Well that is true. And like Trump, Cruz is happy to leave the majority 'nuclear option' rule go in The Senate.
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The topic is how to advance the conservative agenda. Not mis-characterizing members positions.
RIV, Emjay, Tomsea Don-o . We were all fought hard for our primary candidates. Trump is loudly encouraging the implosion of Obamacare. If Trump does not collect the taxes for example, the whole edifice collapses. That is an example of effective conservatism.
If RIV and truth_seeker can cheer Cruz in The Senate and Emjay and myself cheer Trump's actions--It is clear these members can humbly evolve beyond prior tactical positions to advance conservatism.
Then hopefully, Congress and the Senate and Trump can figure out to grow the economy and MAGA.
I am all in for Cruz to be among the leaders in Congress, to get their acts together and pass legislation along the lines of early EOs, and Health Care, immigration control & reform, taxes, national defense, etc.
And Cruz is showing he is for that agenda as well.
Rehashing the primaries for the 40th time, insults and name calling tossed back and forth does not need to be the destiny of this site.
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Please don't mock the MODs...they put up with a lot here and are underappreciated..they don't deserve that.
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Well that is true. And like Trump, Cruz is happy to leave the majority 'nuclear option' rule go in The Senate.
A number of Republican Senators were warning Reid about what he was doing. The Republicans themselves were considering the option when they were in the majority before, and had come to the conclusion it was too dangerous long-term. Reid and the other Rats laughed at the Republicans and did it anyway, and now the Rats are paying a price.
Should have listened to the Republicans, like many times before. It is to the glee of the Republicans that Reid did not. They got what they were wanting 10 years ago, and it was the Rats who gave it to them.
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I am all in for Cruz to be among the leaders in Congress, to get their acts together and pass legislation along the lines of early EOs, and Health Care, immigration control & reform, taxes, national defense, etc.
And Cruz is showing he is for that agenda as well.
Rehashing the primaries for the 40th time, insults and name calling tossed back and forth does not need to be the destiny of this site.
I'd like to see us all join to heal the divisions that were opened over the Primary. I know @mystery-ak would like it a lot. I, personally, have taken my share of cheap shots at folks.
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Amen! I want to find that article that 300 climate scientists calling the NOAA science a fraud. Trump could force this agency cough up the bogus facts and overturn the global warming agenda.
I am all in for Cruz to be among the leaders in Congress, to get their acts together and pass legislation along the lines of early EOs, and Health Care, immigration control & reform, taxes, national defense, etc.
And Cruz is showing he is for that agenda as well.
Rehashing the primaries for the 40th time, insults and name calling tossed back and forth does not need to be the destiny of this site.