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Trump attacks resigning GOP Reps as ‘cowards and weaklings’ as majority thins
by Nick Robertson - 03/31/24 5:57 PM ET
Former President Trump went after the flurry of GOP House members leaving their seats this year, throwing the already razor-thin Republican majority up in the air.
“Never forget our cowards and weaklings! Such a disgrace,” Trump said in a Truth Social post on Sunday in response to an article about outgoing Rep. Mike Gallagher (R-Wis.).
Trump’s Easter criticisms were aimed at Gallagher and former Rep. Ken Buck (R-Colo.), who both chose to retire early from Congress, leaving their seats empty. Gallagher will resign from Congress in mid-April, leaving his seat open until next January, while Buck resigned last week to be replaced in June.
The openings, added to other vacancies in the House, bring the GOP majority down to just a single seat after Gallagher resigns, making the already difficult task of passing party-line votes that much harder. The situation has even led to some speculation that Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) could be named Speaker, with some Republicans in revolt against Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.).
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https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4566635-trump-attacks-resigning-gop-reps-as-cowards-and-weaklings-as-majority-thins/
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And division on the Right only continues.
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Yeah, Congress people who betray their supporters and constituents by bailing when the tough gets going generally deserve every bit of the scorn they get heaped upon themselves. I'm especially disappointed in Ken Buck, who turned out to be a total hypocrite, after promising to "Drain the swamp."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/republican-rep-ken-buck-leaving-congress-eroding-gop-majority-rcna143046
As for Gallagher, he's cashing in...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidjeans/2024/03/22/china-hawk-rep-mike-gallagher-is-taking-a-job-at-palantir/?sh=679474035148
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Although I really don't care for Trump...he's not always wrong.
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Although I really don't care for Trump...he's not always wrong.
Yup. Bunch of quislings.
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They may be both cowards and weaklings,but there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that their offshore savings accounts are MUCH "plumper" than they were a few months ago.
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Yup. Bunch of quislings.
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@libertybele
Yes,but MUCH wealthier quislings than they were last month.
Or in plainer language,whores for rent to the highest bidders.
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They may be both cowards and weaklings,but there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that their offshore savings accounts are MUCH "plumper" than they were a few months ago.
And there is no doubt "in my mind" that you have nothing to even remotely prove your accusations.
But you are showing left-wing tendencies in that you "just know" what is reality.
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I really don't care why they leave.
I have a lot of respect for anyone who runs for office. It's certainly not easy these days.
I wish Trump would shut up.
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And division on the Right only continues.
It will be that way for as long as Trump and Kari Lake are in office.
What troubles me is that many true conservatives I know (Trump supporters) are getting worn out by his constant carping and crapping.
PEW research poll recently found that 80% of Americans find politics exhausting.
Go figure.
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There is a reason the Dems joined Gaetz and Co. in voting to give McCarthy the boot, and I'm pretty damn sure it wasn't to advance conservativism.
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I really don't care why they leave.
I have a lot of respect for anyone who runs for office. It's certainly not easy these days.
I wish Trump would shut up.
The truth is that members of Congress are underpaid. A junior associate at most large law firms starts out making as much as a member of Congress, and most of the people who enter Congress have been successful enough in their outside lives that they can easily make more than that.
That is particularly true because it comes with the requirement that members maintain two separate residences, and DC is not a cheap place in which to live. That makes existence of citizen legislators a practical impossibility for a lot of people. So what you most often end up with are people who are so much wealthier than the average American that they are out of touch with a lot of the common American experience.
They need to add a housing allowance or something for them to maintain a second residence in DC. I know that goes against the popular opinion that members of Congress are massively overpaid, but I don't think that comports with reality.
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The truth is that members of Congress are underpaid. A junior associate at most large law firms starts out making as much as a member of Congress, and most of the people who enter Congress have been successful enough in their outside lives that they can easily make more than that.
That is particularly true because it comes with the requirement that members maintain two separate residences, and DC is not a cheap place in which to live. That makes existence of citizen legislators a practical impossibility for a lot of people. So what you most often end up with are people who are so much wealthier than the average American that they are out of touch with a lot of the common American experience.
They need to add a housing allowance or something for them to maintain a second residence in DC. I know that goes against the popular opinion that members of Congress are massively overpaid, but I don't think that comports with reality.
I’m thinking...extended stay.
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They may be both cowards and weaklings,but there is no doubt in my mind whatsoever that their offshore savings accounts are MUCH "plumper" than they were a few months ago.
Oh my...being rich is bad?
See other posts. Not everyone is really getting rich off this. I’m glad they can’t make too much. They should make less. Then maybe there would be much more incentive to remain working citizens in their own locales.
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The truth is that members of Congress are underpaid. A junior associate at most large law firms starts out making as much as a member of Congress, and most of the people who enter Congress have been successful enough in their outside lives that they can easily make more than that.
That is particularly true because it comes with the requirement that members maintain two separate residences, and DC is not a cheap place in which to live. That makes existence of citizen legislators a practical impossibility for a lot of people. So what you most often end up with are people who are so much wealthier than the average American that they are out of touch with a lot of the common American experience.
They need to add a housing allowance or something for them to maintain a second residence in DC. I know that goes against the popular opinion that members of Congress are massively overpaid, but I don't think that comports with reality.
Those guys are NOT quitting over money. With all the graft and stock trades they make every year, their salary is irrelevant. They are not quitting to simply quit. They are quitting strategically with a specific agenda in mind. And that agenda is to sabotage the Republican House.
Maybe Soros paid them off? Maybe the DNC offered them some cushy 'lobbyist' deal or some other lucrative no-show job? Whatever is causing the Exodus, it has nothing to do with anything other than a specific agenda.
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It will be that way for as long as Trump and Kari Lake are in office.
What troubles me is that many true conservatives I know (Trump supporters) are getting worn out by his constant carping and crapping.
PEW research poll recently found that 80% of Americans find politics exhausting.
Go figure.
I have largely left it - I used to be on several forums, heavily invested in local and regional politics, an ardent listener of Limbaugh and FOXNEWS... The whole political package.
Now I am here.
That's about it.
I may get excited about the odd Conservative here and there, and send them some money... Love to kick the CP in the butt to make its lungs work, but mostly, I am here.
I am sick to death of the disenfranchisement.
And I ain't alone.
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They need to add a housing allowance or something for them to maintain a second residence in DC. I know that goes against the popular opinion that members of Congress are massively overpaid, but I don't think that comports with reality.
Agreed. Most people don't realize that your average backbencher in Congress tends to be Middle Class and on a family budget, and utterly incapable financially of supporting two residences. So they often end up living in their offices or sharing whatever small spaces they can pool their dollars to rent in grotesquely expensive Washington DC. The financial strain also makes them susceptible to corruption.
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And division on the Right only continues.
Yeah and who the bleep wants that job? To be attacked by Trump and the base. I don't blame them.
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Mr. Trump makes his point.
But... I daresay that most (all?) of those "leaving early" would -- if they remained in office -- do everything possible to thwart his policies and actions in a second term.
They're just as effective to the right by NOT being in Congress.
Moreso.
Because that opens the door for others to step in, who might actually do something...
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[quote .=HikerGuy83 link=topic=528512.msg2997218#msg2997218 date=1712078410]
And there is no doubt "in my mind" that you have nothing to even remotely prove your accusations.
But you are showing left-wing tendencies in that you "just know" what is reality.
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@HikerGuy83
Calling you an idiot would be bragging on you
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@HikerGuy83
Calling you an idiot would be bragging on you
Yes.....left wing tendencies.
Can't present your facts.....insult instead.
We get it.
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Those guys are NOT quitting over money. With all the graft and stock trades they make every year, their salary is irrelevant. They are not quitting to simply quit. They are quitting strategically with a specific agenda in mind. And that agenda is to sabotage the Republican House.
Maybe Soros paid them off? Maybe the DNC offered them some cushy 'lobbyist' deal or some other lucrative no-show job? Whatever is causing the Exodus, it has nothing to do with anything other than a specific agenda.
Some data would be nice.
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The truth is that members of Congress are underpaid. A junior associate at most large law firms starts out making as much as a member of Congress, and most of the people who enter Congress have been successful enough in their outside lives that they can easily make more than that.
That is particularly true because it comes with the requirement that members maintain two separate residences, and DC is not a cheap place in which to live. That makes existence of citizen legislators a practical impossibility for a lot of people. So what you most often end up with are people who are so much wealthier than the average American that they are out of touch with a lot of the common American experience.
They need to add a housing allowance or something for them to maintain a second residence in DC. I know that goes against the popular opinion that members of Congress are massively overpaid, but I don't think that comports with reality.
There was a time when about 93 out of 100 senators (Yes...I know the senate) were millionaires. I think it's carried over. Harry Reid and Diane Feinstein were classic get rich off your position types.
The house...not so much.
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Those guys are NOT quitting over money. With all the graft and stock trades they make every year, their salary is irrelevant. They are not quitting to simply quit. They are quitting strategically with a specific agenda in mind. And that agenda is to sabotage the Republican House.
Maybe Soros paid them off? Maybe the DNC offered them some cushy 'lobbyist' deal or some other lucrative no-show job? Whatever is causing the Exodus, it has nothing to do with anything other than a specific agenda.
Perhaps Soros paid them off, or the DNC no doubts and I believe that you are correct; sabotaging the GOP House is the agenda.
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@HikerGuy83
Calling you an idiot would be bragging on you
@sneakypete -- Now sing it wit me.... 'We iz da wurld, we iz da people ... (trying to get you to save your breath and stay out of trouble). :laugh:
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@sneakypete -- Now sing it wit me.... 'We iz da wurld, we iz da people ... (trying to get you to save your breath and stay out of trouble). :laugh:
@libertybele
:silly:
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@sneakypete -- Now sing it wit me.... 'We iz da wurld, we iz da people ... (trying to get you to save your breath and stay out of trouble). :laugh:
Too late....the insults better stop @sneakpete
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Too late....the insults better stop @sneakpete
@mystery-ak
*I* am insulted that some people here are calling themselves conservatives,and in the same breath stating they are not going to vote for the Republican candidate.
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@mystery-ak
*I* am insulted that some people here are calling themselves conservatives,and in the same breath stating they are not going to vote for the Republican candidate.
'Conservative' and 'Republican' are two different things, and have been for a long, long time.
I have no obligation to support Republicans whatsoever.
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'Conservative' and 'Republican' are two different things, and have been for a long, long time.
I have no obligation to support Republicans whatsoever.
@roamer_1
And *I* am the one picking arguments??????
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@roamer_1
And *I* am the one picking arguments??????
No argument to be had, @sneakypete . It's just a bare fact.
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@mystery-ak
*I* am insulted that some people here are calling themselves conservatives,and in the same breath stating they are not going to vote for the Republican candidate.
People running for office need to work for and earn votes
They are not entitled to votes just because they have a certain party label after their name
Many of us feel that the biggest issue facing us is the expansion of the federal government and the rapid expansion of the money supply, and the runaway debt that is harming the standard of living of the American people and will continue to do such until the issue is seriously addressed by serious people
Both candidates fall way short in that regard
You feel differently. Therefore, you’re entitled to vote differently.
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'Conservative' and 'Republican' are two different things, and have been for a long, long time.
I have no obligation to support Republicans whatsoever.
If I was the type of person to just blindly, unquestionably vote for someone simply because they had a particular party association I guess I would have been a democrat but apparently now that includes republicans.......that is why I too bailed out of that ship and am just a Conservative. If someone wants my vote they have to earn it, no freebies, that was hammered home to me with the goobernator Benedict Ahhhnold in California.
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If I was the type of person to just blindly, unquestionably vote for someone simply because they had a particular party association I guess I would have been a democrat but apparently now that includes republicans.......that is why I too bailed out of that ship and am just a Conservative. If someone wants my vote they have to earn it, no freebies, that was hammered home to me with the goobernator Benedict Ahhhnold in California.
And your state is a perfect example of where things go if you don't draw hard lines.
I remember when California produced strong Conservatives.... When it lead the nation.
My condolences.
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Trump isn't wrong. Too many Congressional Republicans are cowards and weaklings ... hence, they let the Orange Pied Piper lead the Republican Party and conservative movement over a cliff.
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GT claims:
"If I was the type of person to just blindly, unquestionably vote for someone simply because they had a particular party association..."
I AM that "type of person".
I vote for the Republican ticket because it's logical to do so.
It is NOT logical to vote for the DCommunists -- they are THE ENEMY (and nothing less).
It is NOT logical to vote for a 3rd party (at least in 99.99% of the cases) -- they have no chance at winning.
So... the ONLY logical choice (if I wish to support someone who at least nominally represents "the political side" I'm on) is to vote for the Republican.
Although, in some cases I might withhold my vote completely. I would do this in the case that the Pubbie candidate is someone I can't stomach at all (does Romney come to mind?)...
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GT claims:
"If I was the type of person to just blindly, unquestionably vote for someone simply because they had a particular party association..."
I AM that "type of person".
I vote for the Republican ticket because it's logical to do so.
It is NOT logical to vote for the DCommunists -- they are THE ENEMY (and nothing less).
It is NOT logical to vote for a 3rd party (at least in 99.99% of the cases) -- they have no chance at winning.
So... the ONLY logical choice (if I wish to support someone who at least nominally represents "the political side" I'm on) is to vote for the Republican.
Although, in some cases I might withhold my vote completely. I would do this in the case that the Pubbie candidate is someone I can't stomach at all (does Romney come to mind?)...
Vote as you will, what I was talking about those of either who don't think, don't use logic, it's simple reflex depending solely on the letter behind the name, period! I was never that person and never will be, you have to earn my vote and being the lesser of two evils will never be a winning argument.
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@mystery-ak
*I* am insulted that some people here are calling themselves conservatives,and in the same breath stating they are not going to vote for the Republican candidate.
You literally said that you would never vote for Ron DeSantis if he was the GOP nominee.
So now you're insulting yourself?
And of course, that's not even mentioning that Trump himself openly stated there were 3-4 GOP candidates that he wouldn't support either. He also said that he doesn't want any support from anyone who contributed to Haley, so neither he nor his supporters have any cause for complaint if none of those folks follow Trump's own wishes.
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So... the ONLY logical choice (if I wish to support someone who at least nominally represents "the political side" I'm on) is to vote for the Republican.
There's your problem, right there.
If the candidate does not at least 'nominally represent' There is no gain to be had.
And if the candidate is likely to do damage on top of that, well then logic has nothing to do with it anymore.
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[...] you have to earn my vote and being the lesser of two evils will never be a winning argument.[/size]
That sounds like logic to me.
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Kinda reminds me of that age when I was cruzing Bible Studies to pick up chicks and being hounded by McCarthyites. I later graduated to AA/NA meeting, more interesting chicks, less political.