Not at all surprising given the non-stop-wall-to-wall-24/7 negative coverage.
Not at all surprising given the non-stop-wall-to-wall-24/7 negative coverage.
Which is fed by Trump himself reacting to every little slight
Naw, @geronl, even the Big Bad Trump can't react to every little slight. He may have assumed massive proportions in your mind, but no way one person can keep up with even half of what is being thrown at him.
Naw, @geronl, even the Big Bad Trump can't react to every little slight. He may have assumed massive proportions in your mind, but no way one person can keep up with even half of what is being thrown at him.
Naw, @geronl, even the Big Bad Trump can't react to every little slight. He may have assumed massive proportions in your mind, but no way one person can keep up with even half of what is being thrown at him.
I remember when a 13-year old girl appearing on America's Got Talent told a joke about a reality-tv star becoming President (didn't mention names) and Trump could not help but tweet out an insult against the child.
That is Trump.
Which is fed by Trump himself reacting to every little slightI think a lot of the "base" are those of us who reluctantly voted for him given the choice of trump or Hilary. We are not enthusiastic supporters and most have a wait and see attitude. Sooner or later most of us will have seen enough. And it won't be the press attacks that turn people off - it will be the immature circus act
Yes, but, Geron, YOU are all-Trump all the time!
Waiting for the "he's not a political professional" to appear.
I post on a lot of different topics every day. I will continue to do that, too, with you on ignore.
Maybe if Trump stays away from Twitter and act like a President there wouldn't be this much negative coverage...
Niall Stanage putting the finishing touches on his article:
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Not at all surprising given the non-stop-wall-to-wall-24/7 negative coverage.
If you recall, all the polls also indicated that Clinton was going to win. Next!
I'm glad you're starting to realize that Trump's failings are so obvious, even a chimp can see them!
@Right_in_Virginia
So?
Niall Stanage putting the finishing touches on his article:
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I post on a lot of different topics every day. I will continue to do that, too, with you on ignore.
@mystery-ak
Could you direct me to the guidelines for posting here at TBR? Are vulgarity and personal attacks permissible? I would appreciate clarification as to what's allowed and what isn't. Thanks.
@mystery-ak
Could you direct me to the guidelines for posting here at TBR? Are vulgarity and personal attacks permissible? I would appreciate clarification as to what's allowed and what isn't. Thanks.
Let me give you the guide lines.....
Trump's base was always cracked, in more ways than one, but we were constantly told He would heal the Divide and we would all live in harmony as one, again. I guess some of us are just to damn stubborn and/or 'perfect' to get in the tent.
*carry on
As a wrecking ball his aim is terrible.
Anything less means certain defeat.
We may yet meet defeat as conservatives
The rest of us want to fight and save this country, and we voted for the only man offering to do so. In that battle, none of us are going to "crack" and surrender...so his base is entirely secure.
As a wrecking ball his aim is terrible.
Trump's base was always cracked, in more ways than one, but we were constantly told He would heal the Divide and we would all live in harmony as one, again. I guess some of us are just to damn stubborn and/or 'perfect' to get in the tent.
*carry on
You are already defeated. You were defeated from the beginning, because you stand for nothing. The very definition of a Pyrrhic victory.Only an arrogant fool would assert that others stand for nothing. I may..and do...stand for things with which you disagree (and likely many with which you do agree), but your assertion is more an indictment of your intellect than my principles.
As 'conservatives'?
:silly: :silly: :silly:Yes, Conservatives
No, there were two. You picked poorly. Simply your opinion, and one that conservative voters dismissed at the ballot box
Trump's base was always cracked, in more ways than one, but we were constantly told He would heal the Divide and we would all live in harmony as one, again. I guess some of us are just to damn stubborn and/or 'perfect' to get in the tent.
*carry on
A coworker told me the other day that he voted for Trump but hopes there will be someone else to vote for in 4 years.
The fact is that all the factions Trumpers bragged about voting for Trump are a lot harder to keep together now that the race is over. The neonazi scumbags are filtering away in anger over Trump continuing fights that aren't our own. Bruce Jenner who stood on the campaign stage with Trump warns there will be hell to pay if Trump doesn't give transgenders what they want. The unions are also warning Trump that he better give them their piece of the pie.
There is a reason TOS has to ban voices of dissent. They fear those voices spreading in their echo chamber.
No one wants you in the tent. I'm not even in the tent. But could you stop throwing spitballs at the tent for ... maybe... an hour or so.
@Emjay I though I was helping to put out the fire with my spitballs, good intentions and all....
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The man is a wrecking ball, and that's why we voted for him. He's going to raise hell, take names and create disharmony...
You have your reward.
Enjoy the consequences.
No one wants you in the tent. I'm not even in the tent. But could you stop throwing spitballs at the tent for ... maybe... an hour or so.
Ahhh...the old, I'm with Ted bitterness thing. Get over it. The man lost. I think Ted Cruz is a smart man with a bright future if he continues to support our president...as he has been doing...so I've no urge to bash him in any way. Clearly, the man is much smarter than yourself in choosing to support President Trump.
As for what I/we stand for...a strong defense, conservative justices, a strong immigration policy, strong foreign relations, taking the fight against Radical Islam to its source, unleashing free enterprise, dumping idiotic trade agreements that favor other nations. You may not like these things, but they are all areas in which President Trump is achieving great successes...albeit he is only 5 months in office.
Nope. Not talking about Cruz at all. So the 2nd person running who would fight back was....?If that's what you got out of my post, then your reading is shallow in thought. I don't defend men. Men should defend themselves. But apparently, god is in need of you to defend her, right?
No, really you don't. You defend the appearance thereof for the sake of 'winning'...
There isn't a single principled thing in any of it. Hence, whatever it is that you call 'success' today is false, and will not remain. I could say precisely the same of you, with every bit as much validity. But its just an assertion, with no reason or evidentiary support...you're simply stating what you want to believe. In other words, its the equivalent of "nanny, nanny, boo-boo". Quit being intellectually lazy.
So the 2nd person running who would fight back was....?
But apparently, god is in need of you to defend her, right?
I could say precisely the same of you, with every bit as much validity.
make an argument that is based in reason and intellect. An argument that is logically conclusive, supported by some kind of evidence and can stand of its own rationale....
Incidental. It is the principles he stood upon that matter, and a long record guaranteeing that his endorsement of those principles was not mere campaign promises. Yet your ashamed to say who he is. Classic.
@mystery-ak , turn me loose. Oooh. Scary.
No, you cannot, actually. I can and did.
I have all the way along. Its cute that you think you have.
This is the primary tactic of the socialist Left....they are right in their principles and anyone who disagrees is evil or a fool...
I am. Its been a pleasure to watch someone actually fight the Left...a rare thing.
Physician, heal thyself.
Physician, heal thyself.
Physician, heal thyself.
He won't understand that reference......
He won't understand that reference......
I see you're right.
I figured you would. Losing cause, arguing with that one about truth..... :shrug:
Nearly all that's wrong in this world stems from those who believe they have a monopoly on Truth. Such people are always wrong in their certitude. In fact their wrongness can be measured in an exponentially expansive ratio to their certitude.
Your principles, are not more godly or more ethical or better than anyone else on this board. Your denial of that basic truth is symptomatic of the death of civil discourse in this country and a huge part of why people can no longer disagree without declaring others to be evil.
This is the primary tactic of the socialist Left....in their minds...they are right in their principles and anyone who disagrees is evil or a fool...and likely, both. Its the opposite of the intention of the FF's that we have civil disagreement and rational discourse. Just very unfortunate.
Nearly all that's wrong in this world stems from those who believe they have a monopoly on Truth. Such people are always wrong in their certitude. In fact their wrongness can be measured in an exponentially expansive ratio to their certitude.
Nearly all that's wrong in this world stems from those who believe they have a monopoly on Truth. Such people are always wrong in their certitude. In fact their wrongness can be measured in an exponentially expansive ratio to their certitude.
We're all right, except those who disagree with me and those who quote Bible verses to explain to me why I'm wrong.
*****rollingeyes*****
**nononono*
Well, this part of the Trump base clearly doesn't care that much for him...
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2017/05/22/MELANIA%20HAND%20SLAP._CK_620-large.jpg)
This whole thing is illustrative of Trump hate ..... why are you joining with the media?
Well, this part of the Trump base clearly doesn't care that much for him...
(http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2017/05/22/MELANIA%20HAND%20SLAP._CK_620-large.jpg)
Okay ENOUGH.....
How about this.... We're "joining the media" because we want to. How about that?
We're joining the media in hating on Trump even AFTER you were the one who brought up yet another I-Don't-Give-A-Sh*t-Trite-Miniscule-Reason to scream about a Presspocalypse about Trump. We don't give a sh*t whether or not someone holds his hand or not. We frankly don't care the Yahoo is making a big deal about it.
But fine. We've "joined the media" to hate on Trump.
What you gonna do about it besides bitch and moan?
I got an idea, why not petition your leader to get rid of the First Amendment?
That ought to create the utopia you seek.
Okay ENOUGH.....
How about this.... We're "joining the media" because we want to. How about that?
We're joining the media in hating on Trump even AFTER you were the one who brought up yet another I-Don't-Give-A-Sh*t-Trite-Miniscule-Reason to scream about a Presspocalypse about Trump. We don't give a sh*t whether or not someone holds his hand or not. We frankly don't care the Yahoo is making a big deal about it.
But fine. We've "joined the media" to hate on Trump.
What you gonna do about it besides bitch and moan?
I got an idea, why not petition your leader to get rid of the First Amendment?
That ought to create the utopia you seek.
Especially for those who think some of us are getting overly hysterical about the media war against Trump ...
The lead story on Yahoo this morning is a video supposedly showing Melania brushing away Trump's hand.
Melania is looking straight ahead (and looking dang good also). They are walking along together and Trump makes a motion to reach for her hand which she doesn't notice. She does NOT brush it away.
In any case, what makes this the lead story on Yahoo? The incessant pounding of the media against Trump.
Thank goodness you had the time to find that picture. You should have posted the video. It clearly shows there was no intent to ignore the offered hand.
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I fully disagree that he looks "dang good." Looks the same as he always has. Stupid hair, paunch, bad posture, weird fish-like expression......
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I was talking about Melania.
Agreed. I think she knows she's bought and paid for, and must continue to act a certain way in public. She'd not intentionally ruin that façade.
Did Yahoo or did they not scan a video to find some evidence or what they thought was evidence of Melania brushing off Trump. They did.
As far as the First Amendment goes, it is not a license to lie about people. Lawsuits are being filed now about that and that's a good thing. The right to free speech does not entitle one to libel.
I don't seek Utopia ... not here on earth but I do not consider bitching and moaning to be what I do.
I was talking about Melania.
The 'bought and paid for' remark is particularly nasty in view of the fact that Melania has been above criticism as a first lady.
She's looked classy and she's acted classy.
I don't know what goes on in your marriage and you don't know what goes on in the Trump's marriage so .....
I fully agree that the media is pounding Trump (though I'm sad that he keeps giving them low hanging fruit to use against him).
I fully disagree that he looks "dang good." Looks the same as he always has. Stupid hair, paunch, bad posture, weird fish-like expression......
As for me, I'm not "joining" anyone to go after Trump.
I think she knows she's bought and paid for, and must continue to act a certain way in public. She'd not intentionally ruin that façade.
This is an awful, unchristian, envious, hateful piece of :bs: @Suppressed --- an example of the type of human I would not invite into my home because it would take me too long to clean up the crap you'd leave behind.
Shame on you.
Awww aren't you just the dickens when you're indignant. :silly:
Did Yahoo or did they not scan a video to find some evidence or what they thought was evidence of Melania brushing off Trump. They did.
As far as the First Amendment goes, it is not a license to lie about people. Lawsuits are being filed now about that and that's a good thing. The right to free speech does not entitle one to libel.
She's right though. Not the worlds greatest thing to say.
Melania's not harmed us.
Ah, you found a picture with the President moving to greet someone ..... Here, @bolobaby this video should make you feel better. It's filled with the President and FLOTUS holding hands. I'm sure it'll bring a smile to your heart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf3yCY_AXs0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf3yCY_AXs0
This is an awful, unchristian, envious, hateful piece of :bs: @Suppressed --- an example of the type of human I would not invite into my home because it would take me too long to clean up the crap you'd leave behind.
Shame on you.
You're funny! I wonder how long it would take you to clean up after the guy who says such things as:
“Look at that face. Would anybody vote for that?”
"It doesn't really matter what (they) write as long as you've got a young and beautiful piece of a**."
I hate it when she pings me after all this time, knowing full well that I don't give a rip about anything she says and will keep her on ignore for the duration......... **nononono*
You're funny! I wonder how long it would take you to clean up after the guy who says such things as:“
Awww aren't you just the dickens when you're indignant.
I'm going to need to make sure you know the definition of indignant before I reply to you @txradioguy .... so, please, give it your best shot.
None of it is nearly as bad as the crap that pours from the forum's higher morale and righteous---uniquely Christian wing.
You are the living breathing definition of indignant.
Seriously? Who makes that determination?
The 'bought and paid for' remark is particularly nasty in view of the fact that Melania has been above criticism as a first lady.
Moving to greet someone? I see you didn't watch the video earlier.
She was peeved at him for something, for sure, but you assuage yourself with whatever you want.
Here - maybe this will make you feel better. Just like the one you have on your wall in your living room:
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I did.
Now stop taunting me @AllThatJazzZ .... it's unattractive and annoying.
:seeya:
No need to be spending time translating my post @AllThatJazzZ ... again: I consider your taunting to be unattractive and annoying.Translation of RIV's post:
None of it is nearly as bad as the crap that pours from the forum's higher morale and righteous---uniquely Christian wing.So now we're Christian-bashing. Nice.
.... You have no idea ... what was going on between the First Couple.
So now we're Christian-bashing. Nice.
Of course not @jmyrlefuller ....just sanctimonious, judgmental hypocrites. I do not discriminate when it comes to this. :shrug:
If a gesture such as that has deep meaning, or not, I really don't care.
I have only been married for 49 years, and if my wife declined to hold my hand, I wouldn't think anything about it at all.
To me discussing it at all, is merely another chapter in the #nevertrump trivia game.
I too @LadyLiberty have been married for 35 years (took 3 different women) and I agree with you, GWB knew how to treat First ladies.
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The polite and gentlemanly thing for Trump to do would be to walk with her arm in arm at a pace that is suitable for both of them.
Apparently....
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Well, I've been married for 35 years, and if reached over to hold my husband's hand and he pulled away, I would definitely think something was amiss. In watching the video several times, note that Donald walks several paces ahead of her and then extends his hand to her. He tends to walk in front of her rather than with her. Common courtesy, is you wait for your spouse. She wears extremely high heels and perhaps it is difficult for her to keep the pace; perhaps Trump steps in line with others which leaves her trailing behind. Him leaving her behind was never more apparent than when he left her behind getting out of the car at his inauguration and walked ahead leaving her behind to meet with the Bammy's. I felt sorry for her. The polite and gentlemanly thing for Trump to do would be to walk with her arm in arm at a pace that is suitable for both of them.
Wow. Seriously? Perhaps you'd like it better if W did like those graduates and walked out?
He tends to walk in front of her rather than with her. Common courtesy, is you wait for your spouse. She wears extremely high heels and perhaps it is difficult for her to keep the pace; perhaps Trump steps in line with others which leaves her trailing behind.
What the hell does this have to do with the photo I posted?
On second thought .... never mind. Life's too short.
Well, I've been married for 35 years, and if reached over to hold my husband's hand and he pulled away, I would definitely think something was amiss. In watching the video several times, note that Donald walks several paces ahead of her and then extends his hand to her. He tends to walk in front of her rather than with her. Common courtesy, is you wait for your spouse. She wears extremely high heels and perhaps it is difficult for her to keep the pace; perhaps Trump steps in line with others which leaves her trailing behind. Him leaving her behind was never more apparent than when he left her behind getting out of the car at his inauguration and walked ahead leaving her behind to meet with the Bammy's. I felt sorry for her. The polite and gentlemanly thing for Trump to do would be to walk with her arm in arm at a pace that is suitable for both of them.
Whatever. Not very important, in my view. I don't get involved with the daily Melania clothing threads, either.
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(https://s8.postimg.org/h2c176i9x/trump-pope-melania.jpg)
If a gesture such as that has deep meaning, or not, I really don't care.
I have only been married for 49 years, and if my wife declined to hold my hand, I wouldn't think anything about it at all.
To me discussing it at all, is merely another chapter in the #nevertrump trivia game.
The assumption is that he had a wide base to begin with. Hillary was actually that bad where he was an acceptable alternative. Depending on who they run in 2020, he's extremely beatable.
And the press is still doing it! They are still trolling videos to find some trace of Melania rebuffing Trump. It is pathetic.
They do the same to every Republican President @Emjay and even of this veracity, it was expected of them by all of us, no one believed Trump was gonna get a 'hall pass'.
Well, I've been married for 35 years, and if reached over to hold my husband's hand and he pulled away, I would definitely think something was amiss. In watching the video several times, note that Donald walks several paces ahead of her and then extends his hand to her. He tends to walk in front of her rather than with her. Common courtesy, is you wait for your spouse. She wears extremely high heels and perhaps it is difficult for her to keep the pace; perhaps Trump steps in line with others which leaves her trailing behind. Him leaving her behind was never more apparent than when he left her behind getting out of the car at his inauguration and walked ahead leaving her behind to meet with the Bammy's. I felt sorry for her. The polite and gentlemanly thing for Trump to do would be to walk with her arm in arm at a pace that is suitable for both of them.
Yeah, but if he walked behind her.... you just know he would then be accused of using her as his human shield....lol. He can't win. And hand-holding in public? That's what yuppies do! I just can't believe the idiots on the left are even discussing this kind of crap.
Yeah, but if he walked behind her.... you just know he would then be accused of using her as his human shield....lol. He can't win. And hand-holding in public? That's what yuppies do! I just can't believe the idiots on the left are even discussing this kind of crap.
A "yuppie thing"
My parents have been married 51 years and they hold hands.
They certainly aren't yuppies.
I'm almost 50 and my wife and I hold hands all the time.
Might want to use a better analogy.
Gotta agree with you on that. I like to see married people walking along holding hands. My husband was very affectionate and loving but he just didn't like to hold hands which I kinda missed.:beer:
A "yuppie thing"
My parents have been married 51 years and they hold hands.
They certainly aren't yuppies.
I'm almost 50 and my wife and I hold hands all the time.
Might want to use a better analogy.
I knew it! I knew as soon as I typed it that it was going to catch flak....lol.
My parents didn't physically hold hands in public, but they were holding hands in their minds.
I have no problem whatsoever with couples holding hands in public. As long as you're not the POTUS. Cause Lord knows, he already gives the idiot left enough ammo as it is.
There. Better? ^-^
I knew it! I knew as soon as I typed it that it was going to catch flak....lol.
My parents didn't physically hold hands in public, but they were holding hands in their minds.
I have no problem whatsoever with couples holding hands in public. As long as you're not the POTUS. Cause Lord knows, he already gives the idiot left enough ammo as it is.
There. Better? ^-^
The assumption is that he had a wide base to begin with. Hillary was actually that bad where he was an acceptable alternative. Depending on who they run in 2020, he's extremely beatable.
However, who are the DEMS going to run?? Castro, maybe Warren?
Better...but the media using not holding hands as a sign of trouble isn't new...and not even a Republican only area.
The media was reporting on how cold Hillary was to Bill during the whole Monica thing...refusing to hold hands...giving him the cold shoulder as they walked to the Marine Helicopter etc as signs there was trouble in the relationship.
But it's also from people's personal experiences a sign that all is not well with a couple...ANY couple...it's non verbal communication.
At the end of the day he's a public figure who chose to seek this position...so he...and we shouldn't be shocked and aghast at the scrutiny of every thing he says and does...it comes with the job.
Still waiting on the wall and Bammycare and yes, if the GOP doesn't deliver 2018 may be a nightmare.
Whatever. Not very important, in my view. I don't get involved with the daily Melania clothing threads, either.
BTW, are you yearning for a dem win or just philosophizing.
Get ready for the nightmare.
The wall isn't going to happen...even Trump was backtracking on that during the general campaign.
McConnell just said he doesn't think he can get 50 votes for the POS "repeal and replace" Obamacare-lite bill
He's helping OPEC and the Russians by talking about selling off more of our Strategic Petroleum Reserve.
And he's now waffling on moving the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem...muttering something about being able to bring peace between the Palestinian Terrorists and Israel...a.k.a. "the two state solution"...which would be the "final solution" for Israel.
If he wants to hold onto a GOP majority in the Mid-terms...his best course of action would be to start honoring some of the campaign promises he said he was going to do and let the public know he's doing it.
Better...but the media using not holding hands as a sign of trouble isn't new...and not even a Republican only area.
The media was reporting on how cold Hillary was to Bill during the whole Monica thing...refusing to hold hands...giving him the cold shoulder as they walked to the Marine Helicopter etc as signs there was trouble in the relationship.
But it's also from people's personal experiences a sign that all is not well with a couple...ANY couple...it's non verbal communication.
At the end of the day he's a public figure who chose to seek this position...so he...and we shouldn't be shocked and aghast at the scrutiny of every thing he says and does...it comes with the job.
Thank you, Xena. My husband and I were the same way.
I think you're either a hand holder or you're not and it doesn't reflect the affection you feel for each other.
Okay ENOUGH.....The word 'Hate' once again in your posts.
How about this.... We're "joining the media" because we want to. How about that?
We're joining the media in hating on Trump even AFTER you were the one who brought up yet another I-Don't-Give-A-Sh*t-Trite-Miniscule-Reason to scream about a Presspocalypse about Trump. We don't give a sh*t whether or not someone holds his hand or not. We frankly don't care the Yahoo is making a big deal about it.
But fine. We've "joined the media" to hate on Trump.
What you gonna do about it besides bitch and moan?
I got an idea, why not petition your leader to get rid of the First Amendment?
That ought to create the utopia you seek.
God hates the sin, but loves the sinner.
The word 'Hate' once again in your posts.
This whole thing is illustrative of Trump hate ..... why are you joining with the media?
Can you possibly write something meaningful that does not condemn someone else or curses?
God hates the sin, but loves the sinner.
Oh, I'm not shocked at all of the intense (anal retentive) scrutiny they're giving Trump. And as far as the media goes with the Clintons, I seem to remember a gag-worthy moment or two where the media covered the Clintons in fawning, slobbering adoration. The episode concerned a dance on the beach.... and also there were, miraculously, enough rocks that appeared (on a previously rock-less beach) for Bill to construct a presidential message of peace... or some such baloney.
Double-standard all the way. One that pisses me off to this day.
It's weird. Of all the men in my life, there's been only one (since one was a boy in high school, doesn't count...lol) that insisted on holding hands. And he was a liberal. One that made the mistake of dissing Reagan. It lasted barely a year....heh.
God is not a big fan of the unrepentant, contrary to what lukewarm churchianity teaches.there you go again on some wild agenda-driven rant.
We are ALL sinners, and Contrary to what you and @roamer_1 say, he loves us anyway.
He gives all of us the opportunity to repent of those sins and embrace him.
@IsailedawayfromFR
I never said he didn't love you, or anyone. That is way above my paygrade. I said a people who do not follow his law are going to find out the hard way. And that is painful. Not but a generation ago, this people lived in fear of becoming Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.
Not anymore.
@INVAR
@IsailedawayfromFRso why bother posting #149? You seem to have contradicted my point that God hates sin but loves the sinner, and sought to direct me otherwise in scripture as it was some type of false teaching.
I never said he didn't love you, or anyone. That is way above my paygrade. I said a people who do not follow his law are going to find out the hard way. And that is painful. Not but a generation ago, this people lived in fear of becoming Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.
Not anymore.
@INVAR
so why bother posting #149? You seem to have contradicted my point that God hates sin but loves the sinner, and sought to direct me otherwise in scripture as it was some type of false teaching.
Now you are making some other point.
@IsailedawayfromFRok, thx for clarification.
No, it is the very same point. The 'Hate the sin, love the sinner' meme, while true, is used anymore to engender tolerance rather than truth.
Hence the spirit of Jezebel within the churches, and our children being sacrificed to Molech. Hence a nation that no longer even knows what bathroom to use.
The prophets come, heralding truth to a stiff-necked people, but they seldom listen... Too wrapped up in their sophistry to understand that they are tolerating evil, and that the land is about to spit them out.
If you don't think we have a trip to the woodshed in our near future, you've got another think coming.Pro 9:10 The fear of the YHWH is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.
Before your reply, ponder that verse. In the midst of the confusion brought about by the tolerance of sin, I find it brings clarity.
so why bother posting #149?
@roamer_1
ok, thx for clarification.
If you go back to my earlier post, I was responding to a poster who declared I hate him. I posted that God taught us to, like him, hate the sin but love the sinner, so I have no hate for him no matter what he does or chooses to believe.
Somehow you and that poster went far afield from what I had said, and attempted to read into it much more than the simple statement being made.
This whole thing is illustrative of Trump hate ..... why are you joining with the media?
You jumped on board and got your panties in a knicker knot up your wazoo over words you failed to comprehend in their context and attribution.
I think you WANT and DESIRE an argument considering your vain attempt to elicit one via accusing me of going on a "wild agenda-driven rant" over a simple biblical statement.
Take a Midol or something.
We're all right, except those who disagree with me and those who quote Bible verses to explain to me why I'm wrong.
Okay ENOUGH.....
How about this.... We're "joining the media" because we want to. How about that?
We're joining the media in hating on Trump even AFTER you were the one who brought up yet another I-Don't-Give-A-Sh*t-Trite-Miniscule-Reason to scream about a Presspocalypse about Trump. We don't give a sh*t whether or not someone holds his hand or not. We frankly don't care the Yahoo is making a big deal about it.
But fine. We've "joined the media" to hate on Trump.
What you gonna do about it besides bitch and moan?
I got an idea, why not petition your leader to get rid of the First Amendment?
That ought to create the utopia you seek.
None of it is nearly as bad as the crap that pours from the forum's higher morale and righteous---uniquely Christian wing.
Let's stay on topic.
Well....at least we're making progress. *****rollingeyes*****
there you go again on some wild agenda-driven rant.If the prodigal son doesn't come home, someone else gets the fatted calf.
there is a HUGE difference between a sinner, which I referenced, and one who is unrepentant, which you for some unexplainable reason decided to pontificate on.
We are ALL sinners, and Contrary to what you and @roamer_1 say, he loves us anyway.
He gives all of us the opportunity to repent of those sins and embrace him.
Once again, you demonstrate either a total inability to comprehend sentences or bother reading what is posted here or by whom beyond whatever knee jerk instant vitriolic rage you want to spring into over what you read that triggers your replies.you know, a liar has a tough time keeping up with his lies. Or is this not you?
No one said you hated anyone.
@Mesaclone I do hope you get 'other' exercise besides jumping to conclusions.It was predicted, long before the primaries were over, that any failure on the part of the Trump would be laid not at the feet of those farther to the Left, nor even at the foot of the Media (also farther left), but would instead be blamed on principled Conservatives.
To insinuate that NT's (that word is way past it's use by date) are in collusion with the Media to destroy OUR President is preposterous, IMHO, and frankly reminds me of obummer blaming GWB for everything.
But carry on My friend.
It was predicted, long before the primaries were over, that any failure on the part of the Trump would be laid not at the feet of those farther to the Left, nor even at the foot of the Media (also farther left), but would instead be blamed on principled Conservatives.
One drop of obvious sarcasm is taken as a flood of hatred.
I do hate the neverending attack on Conservatism by the left AND the middle, the socialist light types who think the world either marches in lockstep with them or is their enemy to be incessantly badgered with bullshit accusations. I have said so before and I will continue to. We could handily attack those further to the left if they would just quit jumping around in the line of fire.
Re: your response to this:
To insinuate that NT's (that word is way past it's use by date) are in collusion with the Media to destroy OUR President is preposterous, IMHO, and frankly reminds me of obummer blaming GWB for everything.
Well, at least now they've admitted to having joined the media and Left (which are one and the same) in their hate Trump efforts. As such, Invar and his ilk have now akcnowledged something that has become rather obvious recently, he is working to bring down the party...though he clearly fails to understand that this would herald the end of the conservative movement as an effective political force. This is the very definition, from the Left, of someone who is to them a useful idiot.
Hiding the absence of a solid intellectual argument behind a shield of "righteousness" does not signal devotion to belief, but rather the inability to act with common sense and reason. Supplanting evidence with faith...rather than using them in concert...is not the method of a true man/woman of god...but we've seen nothing but that from the NT moral narcissists. Its unfortunate, because the many Evangelicals and strong Christians who DO support Trump (and they are a majority on the religious right) have so clearly shown that they can bring wisdom and reason to the table...and that they understand Reagan's 80% rule, which is really just common sense.
So, with NT'rs like Invar now openly acknowledging that they are "with" the media/left, the job of the rest of us to fight Leftism and the Socialism that seeks to take the country, becomes much more poignant. We have a cluster of folks who simply want to bring down the party...and so the right...just so they can feel morally virtuous and gain vengeance against a candidate they personally dislike. But conservatism cannot afford such petty motivations, and this NT movement is now shifting itself towards active support of the Left...much to the glee of the Left. Deeply unfortunate.