“Defend freedom,†Cruz said, and that includes fighting for economic freedom, religious liberty, and freedom of speech.
Well, Ted, if your hero had it his way, he would shut down any media outlet and anyone or anything else that he didn't like. So I don't know that he is a defender of our freedoms either.
No politician really likes our Constitution. If most of them had it their way, they would be our lords and masters. Why else do you think there is no interest by either party in getting rid of Obamacare? It's because Obamacare was meant to be a prelude to full-on government controlled health care, which would allow the state to decide whether you live or die. Politicians from both parties crave power. Control over life and death is the ultimate power.
I really tire of scare tactics used by either party to compel voters to select their candidate over the opposition. No, Ted, I don't have to vote for Trump to save us from Biden or whoever else the Democrats nominate. That scare tactic didn't work on me in 2016 when the Democrat nominee was Hillary. It won't work on me now.
By the way, Ted, whatever happened to your advice in 2016 to "vote your conscience?" How does it feel to be a lapdog to the guy who almost destroyed you and your family in 2016?
He several times stated in 2016 he was voting for Trump for 2 reasons; to ensure that a conservative SCOTUS was put on the bench and defeat Hillary. That's exactly why I voted for Trump; and the only reasons.
I'm not so certain that I am going to vote for Trump again as he has placed 2 SCOTUS on the bench, so that is no longer an issue for me; he may or may not have a chance to nominate another one. What remains an issue for me is the crisis at the border. It was not one of the reasons that I voted for him, but his FAILURE has become a major disaster for this country and will impact this country and so far, it is impacting this country in a very negative way. He has handled the crisis at the border very poorly and perhaps that's an understatement. He has FAILED to negotiate border security and border funding for the wall with the DEMS and he Bigly missed an opportunity to do so when he had a GOP majority; even though Cruz strongly encouraged him to do so.
IF he continues to cave to the DEMS on the border, then I cannot and will not vote for him; I will vote down ballot.
Lap dog? I don't quite see it that way. Cruz has stood behind this president when he felt he was right and he has also told his fellow Senators that they need to do their darn jobs. Trump played dirty during the debates and electoral process; but does that mean that Cruz should go against everything he does, even if he feels he's right? What would that accomplish other than give more power to the DEMS? Cruz is doing his job as a Senator.
We might as well face it. They have been making the same promises since at least 2010. If they really wanted to keep their promises, they would have by now.
They have been making their promises since Reagan - Nearly my whole life, since I have been politically aware... Their promises ain't worth a tinker's dam.
And I am with you - Right down the line.
I have lost all faith in Cruz. I don't know that I would vote for him now.
Well, @roamer_1 I am generally in agreement with you but I don't really have a giant problem with Cruz.
Would I vote for him again? Yep. I did last time. Let me see...Beto...Cruz...Beto...Cruz.? Not really a hard choice, imho.
A false choice, @berdie , as always - The lesser evil is a poor argument.
What has soured me on Cruz is two-fold:
That he cow-tows to Tump after the very personal wreckage Tump made of his life during the campaign is just plain unconscionable. All he ought to give that clown is a dot on his eye. And for what he did to Cruz's family - well, were it me, he'd not have any teeth left.
That otherwise has happened is a dilemma in character that any western man would understand, not to mention servile cooperation.
And that cooperation - voting for massive spending and big government bullcrap is a slap in the face to every TEA party member that used to hold him in high esteem. His shifting principles and failure to defend the honor of his wife and his father leave me questioning his backbone, and left me with a very sour taste.
I see it very differently. First of all, Cruz is not kow-towing to Trump. He has put aside his ego and is doing the right thing for the nation, not his ego. Not sure why you see that as giving in to Trump.
I see it very differently. First of all, Cruz is not kow-towing to Trump. He has put aside his ego and is doing the right thing for the nation, not his ego. Not sure why you see that as giving in to Trump.
What he's voting for. Spending bills alone are enough to make the claim - there is no spending bill that is good for the country at this point. And he is MILES away from the guy who yelled about omnibus spending a few short years ago...
He has put aside his ego [...]
And by the way... It is not a matter of ego - It is a matter of honor.
Agreed, that one vote was an error. However, his overall record has been solidly conservative.
You're right, he should have demanded a duel.
Prior to this administration, I would agree with you. Now, not so much.
It's not a question of whether you agree or not, it just is.
Nah. He should have just kicked his ass.
Literally or in the election? I agree with the first and hope it happens in the future and the second wasn't to be.
No, his entire record prior to Tump no longer matters.
Well, if that's the ruler you are using we are all lost. I think that the majority of what I have done in life is on the good side of the scale and, hopefully it makes up for the stuff on the other side of the scale.
I believe Cruz figured out that in order to win re-election, he had to serve the big guy. Cruz does still have some good points, but in the end, he is a self-serving politician like the rest of them. He and his career are number one; the voters take a back seat.
That's right. But if tomorrow you suddenly started drinkin and whorin around... What is your past worth then?
I'm thinking about drinking now. As for if I did the wrong things tomorrow (and, I will, I'm not perfect yet) the same thing applies. I try to do better and try to do what God wants me to do.
I didn't even bother to vote for him in the last TX election.
I wonder how many Texans felt that way... Maybe enough to explain his poor showing?
OTOH, it could be the regular Trumpers showing their casual hate by not voting for him either, after all, Abbott did get 4m votes more on the same republican ticket AND Cruz pizzing off some Conservatives for accepting a deal with the Trump, (what next more McConnell)? Double Whammy!, explaining a 2% victory margin, If Cornyn wins in 2020 by any larger margin, I believe it proves my point.
This thread is the winner of "Fishrrman's dumb posters of the day" award...
I get that. And forgive me - That statement was for effect, and I would never think it of you, because I know you well enough to judge your character. A woman of your caliber is not likely to behave that way. Certain principles apply.
But that, then, is the point.
And let me clarify... I will not vote for Tump under any circumstance.
I am not there with Cruz. He can make it back. But my former judgement of his character has been deeply shaken.
Thank you, @roamer_1, and no apologies needed.
Let me posit that Trump, with all of his many and multitudinous faults (I've had a sip of Dewar's now) is not the issue. Nor is Cruz.
The whole world is upside down and flat-out crazy. In a sane world, Donald Trump would not have been elected, nor would he have been seen as being an antidote to anything. Trump is a symptom of that craziness, and unfortunately for us, the alternatives are even worse.
This thread is the winner of "Fishrrman's dumb posters of the day" award...
A false choice, @berdie , as always - The lesser evil is a poor argument.
What has soured me on Cruz is two-fold:
That he cow-tows to Tump after the very personal wreckage Tump made of his life during the campaign is just plain unconscionable. All he ought to give that clown is a dot on his eye. And for what he did to Cruz's family - well, were it me, he'd not have any teeth left.
That otherwise has happened is a dilemma in character that any western man would understand, not to mention servile cooperation.
And that cooperation - voting for massive spending and big government bullcrap is a slap in the face to every TEA party member that used to hold him in high esteem. His shifting principles and failure to defend the honor of his wife and his father leave me questioning his backbone, and left me with a very sour taste.
I guess now I'm voting defensively.
This fiscal game is lost, we are too far in debt and too far gone to fix it.
The reason I don't want any Dems in power is because the party is rapidly becoming nothing but holy robe, funny hat, witch burning SJW revolutionaries that want us put into camps and exterminated.
If I can stop that and avoid civil war or death squads, I'll take it. When the economy goes to crap, I can survive that, but the other is far more dicey.
Conservative Hub
3rd party kook site
I just saw this....I have one question then @truth_seeker
If this is a kook site what does that make you by being here?
Conservative Hub
3rd party kook site
@truth_seeker
Why do you post on a "3rd party kook site?" You don't have to, you know.
LOL! Getting a big kick out of this.
Ted Cruz, himself, says that we all have to get behind THIS President to stop Socialism...and well, some 'Conservatives' on the forum STILL have a 'Problem' with that?
:laugh:
How many members here are screaming 3rd party?
OTOH, it could be the regular Trumpers showing their casual hate by not voting for him either, after all, Abbott did get 4m votes more on the same republican ticket AND Cruz pizzing off some Conservatives for accepting a deal with the Trump, (what next more McConnell)? Double Whammy!, explaining a 2% victory margin, If Cornyn wins in 2020 by any larger margin, I believe it proves my point.
Thanks.
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The race for biggest Cruz supporter award that actually never agrees with anything Cruz says or does should be tight this year but I think you'll be at the finish line.
Okay, maybe not "never agrees" but enough to make it a valid statement.
Knock me over with a feather.
Addendum: I thought for sure we had a trophy emoticon, we probably do and I just missed it, I looked about 4 times.
LOL! Getting a big kick out of this.
Ted Cruz, himself, says that we all have to get behind THIS President to stop Socialism...and well, some 'Conservatives' on the forum STILL have a 'Problem' with that?
:laugh:
What I have a problem with is anyone, Ted included, telling me who to vote for. As I stated before, I will not vote for one candidate to "save us" from another.
What I have a problem with is anyone, Ted included, telling me who to vote for. As I stated before, I will not vote for one candidate to "save us" from another.