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However, the truth is the truth, and the evidence, as we shall see, is overwhelming. If you’re wondering how ETs (extra-terrestrials) or aliens fit into the whole picture of the NWO (New World Order), its simple:
They’re intimately involved at the top of the pyramid. The NWO agenda is the alien agenda; they are one and the same.
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But Aren’t There Many {PURPORTED}Alien Agendas?
Yes. There is not just one alien agenda.
There are many alien agendas that crop up and emerge as common themes throughout the testimonies of alien contactees and alien abductees.
Here is a brief and incomplete list of some of them, which run the gamut from positive and helpful, to negative and hostile:
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There is so much proof it is far, far beyond the scope of this article to include it all, however I will give an outline and numerous examples. There are many sources with a broad spectrum of provability.
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The ones listed first here are more “provable†to the rational, logical mind, for those interested in hard evidence:
Photographic and video evidence of ETs and UFOs
Eyewitness accounts of alien contactees and alien abductees of their encounters and interactions with ETs
Alien, abduction and UFO researchers (ufologists) who have listened to and collected hundreds of case files of contactees and abductees
Testimony of former governmental and military insiders who saw case files and worked in “alien departments†of their organizations
Declassified governmental and military documents and case files
Past and present stories, myths and legends from all over the world
We will go through each of these below, but first, let’s consider the story of Phil Schneider.
Phil Schneider was the first to state:
“The New World Order agenda is the alien agenda.â€
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Cynthia Drayer, Phil’s ex-wife, has highlighted the many suspicious details surrounding Schneider’s death.
Schneider was close friends with Al Bielek, the man involved in the Philadelphia Experiment and Montauk Project.
In this video Bielek reveals special information that Schneider had confided in him, including tales of 7 foot Grey aliens dictating policy at a secret UN underground base, and how Schneider secretly flew to Japan in a private jet to reveal how the Kobe “earthquake†was a nuclear attack by the US.
Schneider’s account is also corroborated by the Dulce Papers (or Dulce Book) which talk of a fight between humans and aliens in 1979 at the underground base at Dulce, New Mexico.
{Qx: I realize that a lot of such testimony is readily derided, dismissed lacking courtroom, lab level "hard 1,000% proof." I have moved Schneider's stuff into the highly probably true category because of sufficient-to-me other sources and puzzle pieces affirming similar or the same things. I'm impressed by the scope of this argicle, whether I agree with precisely every detail, or not.
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So Aliens Are Among Us – But Are They Malevolent?
Given the compelling amount of evidence above in this article (a tiny fraction of all the evidence in existence on the topic) – which not only indicates the existence of ETs, but also shows many are interfering in Earth affairs with a hostile agenda – it’s surprising that there is still the belief out there among some circles that,
“All ETs are benevolent and have humanity’s best interest at heartâ€.
This is foolish nonsense – and dangerous nonsense too, because it gives people a false idea about our galactic neighbors, and thus lowering their defenses and making them more susceptible to some kind of invasion or manipulation.
For some reason, this notion has been pushed by none other than Dr. Steven Greer of the Disclosure Project.
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Greer is dead wrong on this point, as Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan of Project Camelot pointed out in this heated discussion, as well as other leading experts on exopolitics such as Dr. Michael Salla who wrote the rebuttal Exopolitics vs Exospin.
Some have theorized this is due to Greer’s connection with Lawrence Rockefeller of the infamous Rockefeller family (one of the 2 main NWO families along with the Rothschild’s).
Aliens atop the NWO Pyramid
Many have exposed the alien connection to world events, but David Icke has been the most comprehensive in the many books he has written on the Reptilian theme which has inextricably intertwined with the NWO.
The Biggest Secret (1999), Children of The Matrix (2001) and The Perception Deception (2013) in particular contain a monumental amount of dot-connecting and information showing that at the apex of the NWO pyramid are non-human entities.
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The world is on the brink of reality changing in almost unimaginable ways. This is not an era for the faint of heart.
@Quix Thank you for this post.
I wholeheartedly agree.
Do you sometimes walk down the street . . . or sit pensively in your easy chair . . . wishing you could come up with a sure-fire way to wake up all the clueless, lobotomized, tuned-out, super ignorant, stubborn, blind . . . folks you still love so much? And then, kind of grieve and sigh, realizing there evidently is not such a way available.
Thanks for your kind affirmation.
I'm not so sure I want these fools awakened. Like the Tommy Lee Jones character "K" said in MIB: "Individuals are smart, but people are stupid. The only reason they can go around their lives is because. They. Do. Not. Know."
How many people would say, "Aw screw it, the Compass of Morality I've been using for all these years is no longer valid, so I'm going to go in a crime rampage." Or simply riot as a means of stealing everybody's stuff? Too many.
Do you sometimes walk down the street . . . or sit pensively in your easy chair . . . wishing you could come up with a sure-fire way to wake up all the clueless, lobotomized, tuned-out, super ignorant, stubborn, blind . . . folks you still love so much? And then, kind of grieve and sigh, realizing there evidently is not such a way available.
Thanks for your kind affirmation.
WASHINGTON
Just before leaving his Defense Department job two months ago, intelligence officer Luis Elizondo quietly arranged to secure the release of three of the most unusual videos in the Pentagon’s secret vaults: raw footage from encounters between fighter jets and “anomalous aerial vehicles†- military jargon for UFOs.
The videos, all taken from cockpit cameras, show pilots struggling to lock their radars on oval-shaped vessels that, on screen, look vaguely like giant flying Tic Tacs. The strange aircraft - no claims are made about their possible origins or makeup - appear to hover briefly before sprinting away at speeds that elicit gasps and shouts from the pilots.
Yes I do. But... not everyone will have eyes to see and ears to hear.
For sure. That's for . . . sure.
I am trying to make very sure, too, that no one on Judgment Day can point their finger at me and whine that I knew but didn't try and warn them.
May 30, 2017 Las Vegas, Nevada - During the recent Memorial Day holiday on Sunday, May 28, 2017, the CBS network's highly credible news program 60 Minutes had a segment reported by correspondent Lara Logan with Robert Bigelow, 73. Mr. Bigelow is the founder of Bigelow Aerospace and longtime owner of Budget Suites of America, a chain of nineteen low budget, long-stay rental apartments in three states.This article documents that Bigelow asserts emphatically that the critters are here now etc. etc. etc.
In conjunction with the May 28th 60 Minutes CBS broadcast, the network also produced on its news website a May 28, 2017, report of the Lara Logan interview entitled “Bigelow Aerospace Founder Says Commercial World Will Lead In Space.†Logan says in the report, “With no formal training in science or engineering, Robert Bigelow created an aerospace company with scientists and engineers that's achieved what no one else in the industry has done. His expandable spacecraft are the first and only alternative to the metal structures that have housed every astronaut in space for over half a century.â€
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@Quix
I need improvement in that department and will work on it.
I forgot to mention, @Quix . A VERY MERRY Christmas to you, up in the Mountains, and to all on your AR Ping List!
:tree3: 888deco 8888mistltoe :tree3:
I am trying to make very sure, too, that no one on Judgment Day can point their finger at me and whine that I knew but didn't try and warn them.@Quix
@Quix
I teach a Bible class and I use Jesus' own words about the end days. He tells us what to look for, how it will be, and what to do about it. That is what I would tell anyone about the end days, using Jesus' words.
@Quix
I teach a Bible class and I use Jesus' own words about the end days. He tells us what to look for, how it will be, and what to do about it. That is what I would tell anyone about the end days, using Jesus' words.
That's a great habit and policy. Congrats.@Quix
I hope your health is better.
I got lazy on some of my supplements and am fighting off chest congestion myself.
@Quix
I clicked on another YouTube on that page and it is this:
"David Icke (Dec 17, 2017) - Reptilians Are About To Attack New Update"
According to this guy, every country ruler is Reptilian and so are heads of banks controlling the finances of the world, the New World Order people are all Reptilian. There are Reptiles that operate just outside visible light so we don't see them as they really are. The Bush family and Royal family are Reptiles. All these people are hybrid Reptiles. We are not solid, we are only holograms and can shift from human to Reptilian and back again. They have no empathy as they are not human which is why they start wars. Sometimes their eyes shift to reptile eyes, that is the first thing that changes when they turn into Reptiles.
After that one finished, this one started: "David Wilcock (Dec 19, 2017) - It's a Really Bad News! Break Down Illuminati New Update". Now, the Illuminati is going to destroy the world.
I am sitting in my house and I see myself and this room. I am going to a casino tomorrow and win money I can see. A pox on the Reptiles, the Illuminati, the Aliens from outer space.
Can't wait for that book, @Victoria33! I have to work on my "Country" a little, though. Mrs. Liberty has a bone to pick about my selection of "Benevolent Dictatorship" as the form of our "Government." Says it resembles an Autocracy. :shrug:@Cyber Liberty
@Quix
My dear friend, with whom I have shared a meal and conversation for several hours - you and I can converse, having different opinions, without lowering our regard for each other.
I am not a novice in regard to UFOs and have kept an open mind. Numerous years ago, I bought every writing about the Roswell incident. Then, I went there and bought everything they had that I didn’t have at that time, down to a copy of the local newspaper that came out at that time about the incident. I read every single bit of every book. As other writings came out about UFOs, I read them, including the first report of a physical encounter. This was Barney and Betty Hill.
Moving on to yesterday and today. I spent most of these two days watching/reading the resources you put on this thread, plus I watched YouTube films of several other men involved in this.
Here is a list of men I now know what they think and have done in this category of UFOs, aliens from outer space (the names are not in order in time – I made four pages of notes and these names are on there):
QUIX - YOUR REAL NAME IS AT THE TOP OF THE LIST
Tom DeLonge – connected to the hot topic of the Air Force planes following the UFO that is all over TV right now.
Charles Hall and the Tall Whites - Millennial Hospitality
Charles Hall enlisted in the U.S. Air Force in 1964. In the 1970's he began writing stories about his experiences that would be published as fiction. He would later claim that these stories of mysterious encounters in the Mojave desert in Nevada were based on his real personal experience. His Millennial Hospitality series of books, he claims, are published as fiction to protect the identity of the characters.
Paul Hellyer, former Canadian Deputy Prime Minister of Defense:
He was on YouTube for almost an hour, with the title, “The Extraterrestrial Takeover Will Begin in 2018â€. He did not say anything about them beginning to take over in 2018.
Grant Cameron
Steve Justice retired, Lockheed
Paul Rapp – brain function and consciousness - CIA
Jim Semivan – CIA – Intelligence Strategist
Police officer Ron Perdue – Winter Haven, Florida
Reported seeing a bright, round object nearly the size of a house that hovered about 2000 feet above the ground for 2~ to 3 minutes. The object was about 150 feet in diameter and had a steady glow except for a bright red stripe through the center. The object was bright enough to faintly illuminate the ground directly beneath it.
John Podesta
General McCasland
General Mackay
Robert Rice
Robert McNamara – Secretary of Defense
Now I can talk to you about any of these people and what they are doing, discuss their writings and their radio/film appearances on YouTube.
I still have to read “AZTEC†and watch the films you sent. After I read/see those I will be an expert on them. :seeya: Then, we can talk about these.
Now, as to reptile DNA infused people (which I will never believe), supposed to be all the Bushes, the English Royal Family, every Royal Family everywhere, all higher bankers, other high-ranking people (now I can believe there is a lizard in Trump :seeya:), I take you to Genesis 6 when there were giants who came from angels coming to earth and mating with earth women. They were destroyed along with every human being except Noah, his wife, his sons and their wives. Note in the scripture that Noah was “perfect in his generationsâ€; this means there was no DNA from giants or reptiles or any other contamination in him. “9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.â€
Genesis 6 King James Version (KJV)
“1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
10 And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.
11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.
12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.
13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.â€
In closing, if people have my book, “Emergencies Happen – Be Preparedâ€, there is no reason to have stress over the coming end times no matter if there are UFOs or not. The book stresses to prepare your house/backyard (if you have a backyard), as that is “YOUR countryâ€, and you are the King or Queen of your country. You can’t control the universe, the world, this country, your state, your county, but you can control “YOUR country†and make it a safe place for you to live in peace and substance.
@Cyber Liberty
I think King and Queen with equal power would be your best bet to stay alive. If you go with Benevolent Dictatorship, let your dog taste your drink and food first.
The book is on the reading list of a New York book agent. At least it has a chance. If she doesn't take it, I'll keep at it until one takes it. A man book agent contacted me the week before Thanksgiving and said he would get back to me after Thanksgiving. No word from him yet.
@Quix
You said, "THE BIBLE ITSELF declares emphatically that this era will be worse than ever before in earth's history and worse than ever will be again in the future. GOD said that."
Yes it does, there will be earthquakes as never before and stars will fall from the sky, and man will kill each other as never before, and it says Christ will return so the whole world will not perish. And, it says nothing about reptiles.
I have considered this year, 2017. We had hurricanes more violent than ever before in Texas and Florida and the Florida Keys and Puerto Rico. A violent earthquake in Mexico in that same time period. Raging fires not known before in California. It seems to me every natural disaster that happens now is worse than ever before. I do think we are in the end days.
@Quix
I am right now reading The AZTEC, UFO Incident. Am on page 23. Wish I could just sit here and read the whole thing before stopping, but have to go to church about 4 pm. Will get back home around 7:30 pm as we eat somewhere after church. Will start again then. Maybe will send you emails as I read it.
Comments below in bold teal.
@Quix
Quix, when you post a thread, you are inviting people to respond and they, including me, may not agree with some of your positions. If you don’t want to support your conclusions, as you say, “I have spent probably 30-40 years of the 55 years I've studied such topics trying to offer the best reasons and arguments for my perspectives as I could. In recent years, I've come to the conviction that I not only need to move on, I have moved on from needing to do that for much of any reason. It's become too tedious and too boring and too much a waste of time compared to other prioritiesâ€, then don’t post a thread.
THANKS for your kind reply. I understand your reasoning. It's just not my perspective.
I'm mostly done with, weary of, tired of tediously trying to support a lot of historical stuff--particularly when it has little chance of influencing the questioner anyway. It makes more sense to me to put my energy toward the parts that I don't yet know enough about. It makes more sense to me to try and sort out with bright, thoughtful, articulate folks the things I still have curiosities, questions about. I want a co-speculator sounding board, I guess.
Since you are the master of your posting, I suppose you could remove any disagreement someone posted, thus leaving your original post as the only writing on the thread unless a person agreed with all you post.
I think you know me well enough to know that's not my style or preference. Besides, that wouldn't be very meaningful; wouldn't achieve a lot very useful; wouldn't be iron-sharpening-iron etc.
You want responses, but only responses that agree with you so you “move on...†as “it has become too tedious and too boring and too much a waste of time…�
I think you know me better than that. I learn most from folks who disagree with me.
It is no longer useful or interesting to me to rehash for the 3,000th time historic stuff that I'm confident of my conclusions on to such a degree--that I'm very skeptical that almost anyone I'm discussing those things with would be likely to add anything new and meaningful.
I want to move on and discuss things that I'm still quite tentative and speculative about.
You said, “So far, we seem to have spent a fair amount of time with me trying somewhat to document why I believe as I do. I can understand that. It would be easier if we could pretend that a given set of assumptions were true and go from there.†If I cannot agree to your set of assumptions, and tell you why, if would be folly for me to falsely agree with you so we can “go from thereâ€.
I understand your stance, I think. That's disappointing but understandable.
My stance is somewhat like . . .
Dear Precious Colleague, here we have this extremely complex machine that was found deep in a salt mine in the midwest. We know a fair amount about what the machine can do. We know it can do these 12 things. But what I want to spend our time about is not where the machine comes from; not who made the machine; and not a great deal even about proving its capabilities.
I'd rather start with this list of proven capabilities--which I'd ask you to temporarily accept on faith for now--and let's move on and talk about the IMPLICATIONS of this machine's THEREFORE THEN, LIKELY impacts on our society.
We both agree the end times are coming, as said in the Bible. That is the bed rock of what I believe. I think it is near, as upon us at this time. I used natural occurrences being worse than ever before, to reach this conclusion, plus human wickedness worse than ever before. It does not take aliens from outer space, reptile people, and an alien city or alien air base under the south pole to bring this about. Human nature without God is bringing this about.
That's probably a reasonable assertion. Though I think we can say that God set the whole object lesson of earth, Adam and Eve, etc. etc. demonstrating to all Creation that even the best culture and form of government in all of history--apart from God--would still descend into evil, manipulated by the Dark Lord. That the only LIFE and source of life MUST occur in an eternal dance with God our Father, Yehovah.
Isee this as simple as the Bible/Jesus says, you seem to need outer space aliens and reptile people, New World Order people, cities under the ice, to bring this about. I will stay with simple rather than concoct illusions.
I'm surprised you seem to misunderstand me on that score.
I don't NEED any such set of things. I 'need' to discuss the plausible possibilities, the probabilities and the highly likely truth.
The critters etc. all AROSE, FOR ME, STRICTLY OUT OF THE DATA. So, I feel compelled to deal with the data--the facts as they appear at this point in time--FROM THE DATA.
I understand that your inclinations, preferences, stance is MUCH MORE grounded strictly in tangible super proven 'realities.'
With this said, I don’t doubt there are unidentified flying objects (UFOs). My position is they are real, but they don’t direct the end days – it is human behavior against God that brings this about.
Yes, the government allowed this latest UFO film to be released and there may be more coming as some believe.
I can go much of that distance with you--to the point that I agree that sinful deeds and nature of mankind results in consequences from God.
Nevertheless, the script of the end times was written by God millennia ago.
UFO little people are not going to take over the world. It is imagination that is running wild about who is in these UFOs and imagination that says their plan is to destroy the world.
I think that's a bit of a big set of assumptions.
1. God declares in Scripture that the oligarchy including with satan incarnate with his fallen angels WILL BE in overt control of all nations for 3.5-7 years. That's a Biblical fact.
2. No, it is NOT sourced merely in such folks' imaginations. It is sourced in EXTENSIVE reviews of a huge amount of data, puzzle pieces, written and other records from many centuries ago to and through the present.
3. The globalists stated at least 100-200 years ago exactly what their goals were and what they would do to get there. I've often posted links to such quotes in their own words. Their plans are exactly consistent with what the Bible says will be true of the evil global government of the end times.
4. THOSE GOALS AND STRATEGIES are emphatically consistent with tons of puzzle pieces from and about the critters--their doings (such that Dr Jacques Vallee asserts they are serving as a CONTROL FUNCTION over our culture and planet. His PhD and related experiences entitle him to speak of that as one of the world's top experts on CONTROL functions.) Actually a significant amount of evidence suggests that the critters have BEEN in control of the oligarchy for quite some time, already.
5. Their goals regarding trashing humanity are also consistent with the Biblical record AS WELL AS extensive puzzle pieces derived from the data from a large number of diverse sources. This aspect is a heavily conflicted topic whereon UFO experts differ widely. I'm comfortable with my conclusions, however--very confident about them.
6. I do not know anyone asserting that they are going to 'destroy the world.' The Biblical record is clear that's not going to be allowed. They may well try--that would be consistent with their boss's values and vengeance--but God won't let them succeed.
When I have a bit of time, I will post Jesus’ words explaining/describing the coming of the end. He is not on YouTube.
THAT, essentially, has to come from Matthew 24.
Matthew 24New Living Translation (NLT) Jesus Speaks about the Future24 As Jesus was leaving the Temple grounds, his disciples pointed out to him the various Temple buildings. 2 But he responded, “Do you see all these buildings? I tell you the truth, they will be completely demolished. Not one stone will be left on top of another!â€
3 Later, Jesus sat on the Mount of Olives. His disciples came to him privately and said, “Tell us, when will all this happen? What sign will signal your return and the end of the world {as we have known it}?a]">[a (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+24&version=NLT#fen-NLT-23934a)]â€
4 Jesus told them, “Don’t let anyone mislead you, 5 for many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah.’ They will deceive many. 6 And you will hear of wars and threats of wars, but don’t panic. Yes, these things must take place, but the end won’t follow immediately. 7 Nation will go to war against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in many parts of the world. 8 But all this is only the first of the birth pains, with more to come.
9 “Then you will be arrested, persecuted, and killed. You will be hated all over the world because you are my followers.b]">[b (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+24&version=NLT#fen-NLT-23940b)] 10 And many will turn away from me and betray and hate each other. 11 And many false prophets will appear and will deceive many people. 12 Sin will be rampant everywhere, and the love of many will grow cold. 13 But the one who endures to the end will be saved. 14 And the Good News about the Kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, so that all nationsc]">[c (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+24&version=NLT#fen-NLT-23945c)] {some experts say language groups; tribal groups; people groups} will hear it; and then the end will come.
15 “The day is coming when you will see what Daniel the prophet spoke about—the sacrilegious object that causes desecrationd]">[d (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+24&version=NLT#fen-NLT-23946d)] standing in the Holy Place.†(Reader, pay attention!) 16 “Then those in Judea must flee to the hills. 17 A person out on the deck of a roof must not go down into the house to pack. 18 A person out in the field must not return even to get a coat. 19 How terrible it will be for pregnant women and for nursing mothers in those days. 20 And pray that your flight will not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For there will be greater anguish than at any time since the world began. And it will never be so great again. 22 In fact, unless that time of calamity is shortened, not a single person will survive. But it will be shortened for the sake of God’s chosen ones.
23 “Then if anyone tells you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah,’ or ‘There he is,’ don’t believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will rise up and perform great signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God’s chosen ones. 25 See, I have warned you about this ahead of time.
26 “So if someone tells you, ‘Look, the Messiah is out in the desert,’ don’t bother to go and look. Or, ‘Look, he is hiding here,’ don’t believe it! 27 For as the lightning flashes in the east and shines to the west, so it will be when the Son of Mane]">[e (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+24&version=NLT#fen-NLT-23958e)] comes. 28 Just as the gathering of vultures shows there is a carcass nearby, so these signs indicate that the end is near.f]">[f (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+24&version=NLT#fen-NLT-23959f)]
29 “Immediately after the anguish of those days,the sun will be darkened,
the moon will give no light,
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the powers in the heavens will be shaken.g]">[g (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+24&version=NLT#fen-NLT-23960g)] 30 And then at last, the sign that the Son of Man is coming will appear in the heavens, and there will be deep mourning among all the peoples of the earth. And they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.h]">[h (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+24&version=NLT#fen-NLT-23961h)] 31 {Most of the scholars I respect consider that to be the 2nd coming of Christ coming to rule from Jerusalem after Armageddon--NOT the coming as a thief in the night coming at The Rapture.And he will send out his angels with the mighty blast of a trumpet, and they will gather his chosen ones from all over the worldi]">[i (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+24&version=NLT#fen-NLT-23962i)]—from the farthest ends of the earth and heaven.
32 “Now learn a lesson from the fig tree. When its branches bud and its leaves begin to sprout, you know that summer is near. 33 In the same way, when you {who see these events begin will as a group, cohort, will still be alive--at least some representives of the group--when the final events occur} see all these things, you can know his return is very near, right at the door. 34 I tell you the truth, this generationj]">[j (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+24&version=NLT#fen-NLT-23965j)] {which sees such things begin} will not pass from the scene until all these things take place. 35 Heaven and earth will disappear, but my words will never disappear.
36 “However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself.k]">[k (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+24&version=NLT#fen-NLT-23967k)] Only the Father knows. {That does NOT say we won't know the season or year or even month or week.}
37 “When the Son of Man returns, it will be like it was in Noah’s day. 38 In those days before the flood, the people were enjoying banquets and parties and weddings right up to the time Noah entered his boat. 39 People didn’t realize what was going to happen until the flood came and swept them all away. That is the way it will be when the Son of Man comes.
40 “Two men will be working together in the field; one will be taken, the other left. 41 Two women will be grinding flour at the mill; one will be taken, the other left.
42 “So you, too, must keep watch! For you don’t know what day your Lord is coming. 43 Understand this: If a homeowner knew exactly when a burglar was coming, he would keep watch and not permit his house to be broken into. 44 You also must be ready all the time, for the Son of Man will come when least expected.
45 “A faithful, sensible servant is one to whom the master can give the responsibility of managing his other household servants and feeding them. 46 If the master returns and finds that the servant has done a good job, there will be a reward. 47 I tell you the truth, the master will put that servant in charge of all he owns. 48 But what if the servant is evil and thinks, ‘My master won’t be back for a while,’ 49 and he begins beating the other servants, partying, and getting drunk? 50 The master will return unannounced and unexpected, 51 and he will cut the servant to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Footnotes:New Living Translation (https://www.biblegateway.com/versions/New-Living-Translation-NLT-Bible/) (NLT) Holy Bible, New Living Translation, copyright © 1996, 2004, 2007, 2013, 2015 by Tyndale House Foundation. Used by permission of Tyndale House Publishers Inc. (http://www.tyndale.com), Carol Stream, Illinois 60188. All rights reserved.
- 24:3 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+24&version=NLT#en-NLT-23934) Or the age?
- 24:9 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+24&version=NLT#en-NLT-23940) Greek on account of my name.
- 24:14 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+24&version=NLT#en-NLT-23945) Or all peoples.
- 24:15 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+24&version=NLT#en-NLT-23946) Greek the abomination of desolation. See Dan 9:27 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Dan.9.27&version=NLT); 11:31 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Dan.11.31&version=NLT); 12:11 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Dan.12.11&version=NLT).
- 24:27 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+24&version=NLT#en-NLT-23958) “Son of Man†is a title Jesus used for himself.
- 24:28 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+24&version=NLT#en-NLT-23959) Greek Wherever the carcass is, the vultures gather.
- 24:29 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+24&version=NLT#en-NLT-23960) See Isa 13:10 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isa.13.10&version=NLT); 34:4 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isa.34.4&version=NLT); Joel 2:10 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Joel.2.10&version=NLT).
- 24:30 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+24&version=NLT#en-NLT-23961) See Dan 7:13 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Dan.7.13&version=NLT).
- 24:31 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+24&version=NLT#en-NLT-23962) Greek from the four winds.
- 24:34 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+24&version=NLT#en-NLT-23965) Or this age, or this nation.
- 24:36 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+24&version=NLT#en-NLT-23967) Some manuscripts do not include or the Son himself.
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You said, “I have wondered HOW different God's timeline on the beginning of the horrific period was compared to satan's. I have always assumed satan wanted to rush such things but that God would hold him back to whatever unknown degree.†The Bible says the end times will come ONLY after the Word is known to all. I can look up that scripture. With missionaries and travel possible to all parts of the world, plus TV, the internet allowing information across the world, we are likely at this point. The Word is available to all now.
Uhhhh. Evidently not. Else the Rapture would likely have already taken place. ALL language groups do not quite yet have the Scripture in their language. There is a group in Albuquerque who is working to complete that task ASAP. They are translating the Bible into each remaining people group's language and putting the oral Scriptures on an MP3 player that is both solar and wind-up and designed to last many years.
They seek out "THE MAN OF PEACE" in the tribe and make an agreement with him to play 30 minutes of the Scriptures and then have 30 minutes of discussion per week. That's all. That's it. Many Acts 2 type churches have spontaneously sprung up from their efforts. I think the keywords to search is PROCLAIMER and Albuquerque translation outreach.
“Mark Taylor agrees that our prayers make lots of differences in events and in enlisting God's aid etc. He also asserts that while WW3 may well be likely--he doesn't think it will be any time soon.†I believe, with Trump in office, WWIII will happen and not in the distant future.
I still think you are wrong about Trump. Shrillery in office would likely have already had us in war as she openly asserted she WOULD ATTACK IRAN. Her rage-aholic nature is far scarier than any of Trump's flaws by several orders of magnitude, imho.
In any case, we will find out in due course how soon WW3 begins. North Korea is not a comforting anything.
“So, I'm in the process of trying to integrate, accommodate the information he offers with my prior perspectives, conclusions, assumptions, conjectures and expectations re the end times. That's necessitating some significant changes. I think they will be good changes--though surprising-to-me changes.†See, you cannot be concrete in your thinking – you have to adjust; therefore, your writing will adjust.
I disagree. I can be quite concrete in my thinking. Perhaps not to your criteria in all respects. However, most folks who know me think I'm a very concrete thinker.
Adjusting gets back to George Kelly's role construct theory:
ONE PROGRAM on the net where one can fill out one's own grid and get the resulting cluster chart/map
https://www.psyctc.org/grids/ingrid1.html (https://www.psyctc.org/grids/ingrid1.html)
http://www.lis.ntu.edu.tw/cisap2010/Abstracts_files/ds08.pdf (http://www.lis.ntu.edu.tw/cisap2010/Abstracts_files/ds08.pdf)
https://www.uxmatters.com/mt/archives/2007/12/the-repertory-grid-eliciting-user-experience-comparisons-in-the-customers-voice.php (https://www.uxmatters.com/mt/archives/2007/12/the-repertory-grid-eliciting-user-experience-comparisons-in-the-customers-voice.php)
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/showciting?cid=575866 (http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/showciting?cid=575866)
I can't find the best such online program but the top link is likely close to it.
You asserted that I have to adjust . . .
Actually, we all do. If we don't our construct system is tooooo rigid, narrow, brittle to have optimum predicitve usefulness. Our construct grids do best at the mind-point between adjusting too often, too easily on the basis of too little information vs rarely to never regardless of any evidence.
The grid is the MOST valid and the MOST reliable instrument available per a massive research study of my Dissertation chairman's. It out performed all others including the MMPI and all other well known instruments.
It is very sensitive to SIGNIFICANT events in the person's life--which might be 'merely' mental events. Yet, it is reliable, consistent over time with the individual's true construct system with which they perceive, interpret and predict events in their daily life.
You are adjusting according to what a human says.
Yes & no--TO THE DEGREE that The Lord, events, puzzle pieces more or less clearly affirm sufficient reason to make such an adjustment, yes. Then adjust. But not for shallow reasons or based on poor evidence.
Any human writing must be compared to the Bible in these matters. Jesus says others will come pretending to be Him and not to believe these people. There will be false information people will believe. If it is not Biblical, I’m not believing it.
CERTAINLY THE BIBLE IS THE STANDARD OF TRUTH AND IF THINGS DON'T LINE UP WITH SCRIPTURE, SOMETHING IS DREADFULLY WRONG.
Nevertheless, there's tons of stuff the Bible does not clearly speak to much at all, if at all.
= = = = different topic = = = thought experiment about forming a different social, governmental structure.
“And I'd set up a secret panel to research and select leaders--either directly for the positions or to run as candidates before the people--based primarily on the above factors plus skills needed for their particular slated leadership roles.â€
Here is a truism – two people can agree; three people will divide into two against the other one – the more people the more disagreement Your secret panel will choose people according to their wants for themselves – that is human nature. Your secret panel will be corrupt.
Your friend to the end.
I think the design of my suggestions took human flaws greatly into account and sought to minimize their impacts. I'm surprised you didn't note that.
Thanks for your meaty and kind responses.
@Quix
You said, "THE BIBLE ITSELF declares emphatically that this era will be worse than ever before in earth's history and worse than ever will be again in the future. GOD said that."
Yes it does, there will be earthquakes as never before and stars will fall from the sky, and man will kill each other as never before, and it says Christ will return so the whole world will not perish. And, it says nothing about reptiles.
I have considered this year, 2017. We had hurricanes more violent than ever before in Texas and Florida and the Florida Keys and Puerto Rico. A violent earthquake in Mexico in that same time period. Raging fires not known before in California. It seems to me every natural disaster that happens now is worse than ever before. I do think we are in the end days.
I've been following the conversation some. I'm not going to comment on anything else, but hurricanes more violent than ever before? Not at all.@RoosGirl
@RoosGirl
There has never been a Texas hurricane as bad as Harvey cover half of Texas from central to the coast and east and west - many hundreds of miles, never in its recorded history. It will take many years to recover from that and it will never be the same as it was due to the massive destruction. I have 84 yrs. of experience in this state and it hasn't happened like this in my lifetime, nor before my lifetime - not like this.
"In total, between 24 trillion and 34 trillion gallons of water fell on the Gulf Coast during Harvey, equivalent to the amount of water melted off the West Antarctic Ice Shelf in a single year. According to Adrian Borsa, a geophysicist with The Scripps Research Institute, that's enough to push down the crust of the earth itself by over half an inch in some areas."
Puerto Rico is smashed to bits. Two hurricanes, one following the other and smashing Puerto Rico has destroyed it. It has never been destroyed like this in my lifetime. It may never recover at all.
Yes, but even at 84 years old, you are but a blip in time. Certainly Florida has been hit harder than we were this year, even within my lifetime.@RoosGirl
@Quix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cOjOsVGPjE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cOjOsVGPjE)
Tom Delonge and Pentagon Secret UFO Program- Disclosure Day 3, cover up Unravels?
It's a good video with some additional details. Ron Pandolfi notes that Trump is very pro disclosure and anti-disinformation.
@Quix
I'll be back on this thread tomorrow.
@Quix
I'm finally over the bad cold/flu that is going around. I think you said you were having chest congestion problems. A number of our friends now have this bad illness. It is all over the country. One friend's doctor said the flu shot didn't stop this disease and after you think you are over it, it mutates and hits you again which is why it takes five or six weeks to get over it. It seems every person who gets it has complete laryngitis just as I had. My voice is back so I can yell at Bob now.
And, it [The Bible] says nothing about reptiles.
The world’s early philosophers, which means they searched for wisdom to understand the world, how it worked and how/why people acted as they did in the world, were Heraclitus, Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle. I have their works, their own words, except Heraclitus, plus I have the works of St. Thomas Aquinas, born 1225 AD.
"Ancient Greek and Roman Philosophers
The “love for wisdom†(English translation of the Greek word philosophia) dates back to the ancient times in both the East and West. Although the fundamental questions of philosophy have been dealt with very early, the history of the Western philosophy begins with the ancient Greek philosophers in Asia Minor in the 6th century BC. Thales of Miletus who is regarded as the first ancient Greek philosopher had profoundly influenced other Greek thinkers, encouraging them to search for the answers in nature. The next centuries saw the rise of philosophical schools throughout Greece and emergence of some of the greatest thinkers of Western philosophy including Heraclitus 540 BC, Socrates (470 BC), Plato (428 BC) and Aristotle. (384 BC)."
@Victoria33
While I do not rise to defend the aspect of 'reptilians' per se, what you have said above is definitively untrue.
The 'nacash' in the garden was not a snake, as so figuratively imagined in modern Christianity, but rather a serpent - more a dragon or saurian creature than a reptile, but one we know little about, beyond that description. Seraphs (Seraphim angels) again, are described as dragons or dragon like. Old Nick himself (apropos for the season) is said to be a dragon. As a matter of fact, all things profane fit within the jurisdiction of the serpent.
Hence, within the aspect of Genesis 6 hybridism, A seraphic nephilim hybrid being 'reptilian', or rather, dragon-like is hardly a concept beyond the pale. And the extension of that into Rephaim (the dead, demons), those that the profane are trying to resurrect, is hardly a stretch.
And lastly, the Bible itself declares a nephilim presence after the flood in the land of Canaan, in the bloodline of Anak and the Amorites, and among others - Those defeated by Joshua in the conquest of Canaan - Those demanded to be utterly annihilated by the Father. So your statement up thread that all such perished in the flood and belong only to the antediluvian age is provably false in Biblical terms. And the prophets declare them in the end as well, if one can get beyond the misnomer of 'giants' and 'nephilim' as is so often specifically compared. That which is released back into this world in the end are not only giants.
Thanks.
Again, I raise the issue as a point of order rather than as any general support of the specific 'reptilian' subject... I do not wish to be that specific.
@Quix
Many of those early philosophers spoke to demons, by their own words. As does modern science.@roamer_1
Be careful who you listen to.
It's just not a subject I find that attractive. I'm much more into warm fuzzy puppies, kittens, lamas, alpacas, etc.
Nevertheless, we are wise to prepare our hearts and minds to deal with what IS vs what we'd like to be.
It amazes me brother @Quix , that while you come more from tech, ufo, new age research, and I come more from occult research, and ancient history, that the two perspectives are so often overlapping, and obviously coming to a nexus point not too distant from today.
Peace, and thanks for the OP.
@roamer_1
It's not "be careful who you listen to"; it is one must always use his/her intelligence when reading anything; not be gullible to accept an opinion without research as to the truth of it. I do that and hopefully you do that.
LOL! hoomin intellect, including my own, is vastly overrated.
Hey people.
The release of UFO footage by the Pentagon IS DISCLOSURE. I personally believe the "ETs" are both Demonic and true Servants of God.
Imo, Jesus never left. People left. And they are leaving at an ever-increasing rate. The only thing that I really have interest in now is when that tipping point arrives and the key holder is allowed to use it.
The most important part of God's plan is you. Each of you. How you deal with that is like I said before. You can't save the world. But you can save yourselves.
Peace out.
@Quix
Sorry, this is off topic, but I just want to ask you a question about something interesting I came across last night.
Have you heard of "Q?" Not the Q from Star Trek, obviously, but the person who texts at 4Chan. Somehow I managed to start reading a lot of coded texts that were mostly sent from Q, but Q did answer a few questions.
I was so fascinated by the encoding and brilliance of the person texting that I read until four in the morning! Just crazy!
I don't text a whole lot, but I figured perhaps you might know something. Perhaps there isn't anything, and I wasted my time, eh?
@Quix
Sorry, this is off topic, but I just want to ask you a question about something interesting I came across last night.
Have you heard of "Q?" Not the Q from Star Trek, obviously, but the person who texts at 4Chan. Somehow I managed to start reading a lot of coded texts that were mostly sent from Q, but Q did answer a few questions.
I was so fascinated by the encoding and brilliance of the person texting that I read until four in the morning! Just crazy!
I don't text a whole lot, but I figured perhaps you might know something. Perhaps there isn't anything, and I wasted my time, eh?
An interesting caution from a UFO researcher:
http://exonews.org/veteran-ufo-researcher-urges-vigilance-following-pentagon-disclosures/ (http://exonews.org/veteran-ufo-researcher-urges-vigilance-following-pentagon-disclosures/)
This link looks like a Cameron agenda. I see the sceptrecism.
May I please ask?
Your take on the Paracas DNA?
@Quix, my friend. I have been working so many hours in the last couple of months I haven't had the time or the interest to stay abreast. But I found that I don't really have to. I found that my level of discernment has risen. And that stepping back to see the forest is worth more than the trees.
As much as I have been stressed at work, a friend told me what to do. He is completely correct. I can't allow work to devour my life.
The internet has been buzzing with rumors that high level VIP members of the Deep State (aka Cabal/Illuminati/Global Elite) are being detained for human rights abuses and corruption, and are being taken by U.S. Special Forces to military prison at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base (Gitmo) as a result of thousands of sealed indictments. Multiple sources have been reporting on some of the key VIP figures taken there.
While these are still only rumors, recent events point to their plausibility. If accurate, these secret investigations, arrests and extractions to Gitmo where they face extended detention and military justice has enormous political implications, and makes possible the release of suppressed information previously withheld by the Deep State.
One source of such rumors comes from David Todeschini, a former USAF veteran who wrote an expose about covert operations during the Vietnam War. He describes what he learned from a reliable FBI source about recent events at Guantanamo in a December 24, 2017 Youtube video, which he summarized (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=_RVWoNX4PY0&app=desktop) as follows:QuoteHigh-level confidential sources tell this reporter that the U.S. Military prison at Guantanamo Bay has been alerted to expect high-profile prisoners shortly – possibly as a result of over 10,000 Sealed FEDERAL indictments. 1,000 Marines accompanied General Mattis to Gitmo to provide security for “special prisonersâ€.…
Another source for secret extractions to GITMO via sealed indictments is veteran journalist Dr. Jerome Corsi who tweeted (https://twitter.com/jerome_corsi/status/946777668212740096):
A third source is Brenden Dilley, a radio host running for the US Congres (https://twitter.com/hublife?lang=en)s, who received information from another anonymous whistleblower who has a track record for reliability. The whistleblower’s information appeared in a December 27 post (https://www.facebook.com/groups/crowdsourcethetruth/permalink/543397476017001/) that was mistakenly attributed to QAnon (http://operationdisclosure.blogspot.com.au/2017/12/qanon-intel-gitmo-7-new-residents.html) [see update below (http://exopolitics.org/global-elite-taken-to-gitmo-by-us-special-forces/#update) for discussion of misattribution to QAnon] The post refers to recent VIP arrivals at Gitmo discussion:
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What can be distilled from these independent sources is that high level Deep State members, many of whom are part of a Pedophile Satanic global network, are being detained by U.S. Special Forces and taken to Gitmo where they are to be held indefinitely, while military justice is applied to their cases. In the process, Gitmo’s holding facilities are being significantly upgraded with expansions and more guards to accommodate an infusion of VIP prisoners.
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Among the first to refer to U.S. Special Forces being used to investigate and detain Deep State figures under the authority of sealed indictments was Secret Space Program whistleblower Corey Goode. He referred to such military investigations back on August 9 (http://exonews.org/corey-goode-update-us-special-forces-take-on-satanic-pedophile-group/), 2017 after being briefed by a source he described as retired FBI and career military:Quote[T]here were teams of US Special Forces that were conducting “domestic surveillance and investigations of a Satanic group that had infiltrated all aspects of government agencies and the military. These Special Forces teams have been in place since the middle of the election cycle…. I was informed that a secret report on how pervasive these infiltrations are is more shocking than what was expected. Strangely, this report also had notes from several secret grand juries that are active right now in D.C.
The report states that the conspiracy involves the majority of powerful people in within the UN, EU, US, State and local (City) power structures. These government organization are completely complicit in what is going on. All the way down to local Post Offices and Police Offices.
More recently, Goode says that his sources have told him that Gitmo is being upgraded to host VIP detainees, and includes wheelchair access for some of them, who are being detained by Special Forces working around the globe He explained in a November 5 communication (https://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/1223-targeted-arrests?showall=&start=1) with best selling author David Wilcock:QuoteSecret Grand Juries were almost totally complete with their investigations when everything changed. They had sealed indictments being prepared when they received a cache of new info that gave them a wider net to cast.
Their investigation has since expanded dramatically. So much about the plans of a coup is known about by the Cabal that I don’t know how much longer the Alliance can wait to act and prevent the Cabal from sneaking out of the country.
Some of the really bad ones have already left. Our SF [Special Forces] teams are planning on going in to some of these countries that are hiding these Cabal members and taking them by force.
Are such claims true? In scrutinizing public records what is known fact is that James Mattis, Secretary of Defense, did visit Gitmo on December 21 (https://nypost.com/2017/12/21/mattis-makes-unusual-visit-to-gitmo/) becoming the first Secretary of Defense to do so since 2002. It was the same day that Trump issued his “Executive Order Blocking the Property of Persons Involved in Serious Human Rights Abuse or Corruptionâ€, where he declared (https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-blocking-property-persons-involved-serious-human-rights-abuse-corruption/):
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They cannot touch you if you don't let them in.
I said I wasn't going to let work consume but right now, it is. I accrued some debt from the Hep C treatment--yada yada. I have the opportunity now to work enough hours to pay down a major portion of that debt. So I am doing that.
Here is the thing. I see things about ETs Fighting ETs. A third of the host followed Satan. But the rest are still fighting FOR GOD.
Think about it. When the call comes to you to fight. I mean REALLY fight, don't be blinded by by the things you cannot control
They cannot touch you if you don't let them in.
Peace and love to you all.