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Title: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: mystery-ak on May 24, 2019, 12:25:46 am

Ryan J. Reilly
‏Verified account @ryanjreilly

.@realDonaldTrump has issued a memo to heads of State, Treasury, Defense, Energy, DHS, DNI and the CIA to help AG William Barr with his “spying” review.

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Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: mystery-ak on May 24, 2019, 12:26:58 am
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Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: mystery-ak on May 24, 2019, 12:32:31 am

Jim Hoft
‏Verified account @gatewaypundit
3m3 minutes ago

BREAKING..... IT'S HAPPENING!  President Trump Releases Statement -- Calls on DOJ to Declassify Intel Related to Spying on Trump Campaign
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: mystery-ak on May 24, 2019, 12:33:44 am

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
14m14 minutes ago

“Today, at the request and recommendation of the Attorney General of the United States, President Donald J. Trump directed the intelligence community to quickly and fully cooperate with the Attorney General’s investigation into surveillance activities....
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Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
14m14 minutes ago

....Today’s action will help ensure that all Americans learn the truth about the events that occurred, and the actions that were taken, during the last Presidential election and will restore confidence in our public institutions.”
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Elderberry on May 24, 2019, 12:35:13 am
https://www.lawfareblog.com/presidential-memorandum-barr-review (https://www.lawfareblog.com/presidential-memorandum-barr-review)

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    The White House
    Office of the Press Secretary
    FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
    May 23, 2019
    May 23, 2019

    MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY OF STATE
    THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY
    THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE
    THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
    THE SECRETARY OF ENERGY
    THE SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY
    THE DIRECTOR OF NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE
    THE DIRECTOR OF THE CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY

    SUBJECT: Agency Cooperation with Attorney General's Review of Intelligence Activities Relating to the 2016 Presidential Campaigns
    By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, I hereby direct the following:

    Section 1. Agency Cooperation.
    The Attorney General is currently conducting a review of intelligence activities relating to the campaigns in the 2016 Presidential election and certain related matters. The heads of elements of the intelligence community, as defined in 50 U.S.C. 3003(4), and the heads of each department or agency that includes an element of the intelligence community shall promptly provide such assistance and information as the Attorney General may request in connection with that review.
    Sec. 2. Declassification and Downgrading. With respect to any matter classified under Executive Order 13526 of December 29, 2009 (Classified National Security Information), the Attorney General may, by applying the standard set forth in either section 3.1(a) or section 3.1(d) of Executive Order 13526, declassify, downgrade, or direct the declassification or downgrading of information or intelligence that relates to the Attorney General's review referred to in section 1 of this memorandum. Before exercising this authority, the Attorney General should, to the extent he deems it practicable, consult with the head of the originating intelligence community element or department. This authority is not delegable and applies notwithstanding any other authorization or limitation set forth in Executive Order 13526.

    Sec. 3. General Provisions.
    (a) Nothing in this memorandum shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:

    (i) the authority granted by law to an executive department or agency, or the head thereof; or

    (ii) the functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary, administrative, or legislative proposals.

    (b) This memorandum shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations.

    (c) The authority in this memorandum shall terminate upon a vacancy in the office of Attorney General, unless expressly extended by the President.

    (d) This memorandum is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person.

    (e) The Attorney General is authorized and directed to publish this memorandum in the Federal Register.

    DONALD J. TRUMP
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: mystery-ak on May 24, 2019, 12:37:33 am
I wonder if nancy is still praying for POTUS Trump.... :silly:
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: mystery-ak on May 24, 2019, 12:41:54 am
AG William Barr given power to declassify documents on surveillance activities into Trump campaign
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ag-william-barr-given-power-to-declassify-documents-on-surveillance-activities-into-trump-campaign (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ag-william-barr-given-power-to-declassify-documents-on-surveillance-activities-into-trump-campaign)
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Sanguine on May 24, 2019, 12:58:50 am
Let's hope Barr lets it rip!
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: mystery-ak on May 24, 2019, 01:01:53 am
This is BIG people...I thought you would all be thrilled....this is a tough audience :2popcorn:
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Sighlass on May 24, 2019, 01:08:16 am
This is BIG people...I thought you would all be thrilled....this is a tough audience :2popcorn:

Being not as in the know as most here, I tend to take a wait and see approach on these things... Often what is touted as a big thing in my book just fizzles out. So I lurk for the most part until I get a feel of the situation.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: rustynail on May 24, 2019, 01:12:13 am
The walls are falling down.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: corbe on May 24, 2019, 01:12:47 am
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Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: rustynail on May 24, 2019, 01:15:57 am
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Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 24, 2019, 01:19:35 am
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Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: corbe on May 24, 2019, 01:25:44 am
   It shows you just how screwed up everything is in DC when it takes a Presidential Directive to 'prod' certain Department Heads to cooperate with the United States Attorney General.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: EdJames on May 24, 2019, 01:26:43 am
It is obviously an important first step, of a fairly long and tricky process.

Hoping that it goes the way that many of us are hoping it does.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: MoMo on May 24, 2019, 01:31:03 am
Always the skeptic @corbe its surprising you get up each morning.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: corbe on May 24, 2019, 01:32:27 am
   Don't start on me @MoMo
   

   It was spellcheck I swear
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: DCPatriot on May 24, 2019, 01:36:21 am
I wonder if nancy is still praying for POTUS Trump.... :silly:

ROFL!      :beer:
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: bigheadfred on May 24, 2019, 01:38:32 am
Ides rather be a little off than a little moron.

Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on May 24, 2019, 01:39:25 am
This is BIG people...I thought you would all be thrilled....this is a tough audience :2popcorn:

Trump sends a memo....  yeah, okay.

Brennan in handcuffs and refused bail, that's big.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: mrclose on May 24, 2019, 01:43:31 am
Obama employee's last day at the White House, some crying.
Now we’ll find out part of the reason they were crying.
They knew they’d eventually get caught.

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Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: DCPatriot on May 24, 2019, 01:46:34 am
Trump sends a memo....  yeah, okay.

Brennan in handcuffs and refused bail, that's big.

@corbe

Please start a poll betting which one of the Four Horses of the Apocalypse is going to 'unexpectedly' die first.

Brennan, Clapper, Comey, or Lynch?
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: corbe on May 24, 2019, 01:49:45 am
   I get up every morning and have my covfefe just like you @MoMo

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Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: corbe on May 24, 2019, 01:52:17 am
@corbe

Please start a poll betting which one of the Four Horses of the Apocalypse is going to 'unexpectedly' die first.

Brennan, Clapper, Comey, or Lynch?


   Sounds good @DCPatriot
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: corbe on May 24, 2019, 02:02:27 am
   New Poll

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,362742.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,362742.0.html)
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: corbe on May 24, 2019, 02:28:25 am
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Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: corbe on May 24, 2019, 02:30:34 am
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Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: edpc on May 24, 2019, 02:35:27 am
Trump has had his own people, Pompeo, Haspel, Wray, and Coates in place for years. He’s had the information and could have declassified anything, at any time, if something was there, beyond what we already know. The only thing the statement lacked was a Hannity-esque ‘tick-tock’ at the end. When this prom night promise falls flat, it’ll be because the dastardly deep state was just too entrenched.   *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: DCPatriot on May 24, 2019, 02:41:41 am
Trump has had his own people, Pompeo, Haspel, Wray, and Coates in place for years. He’s had the information and could have declassified anything, at any time, if something was there, beyond what we already know. The only thing the statement lacked was a Hannity-esque ‘tick-tock’ at the end. When this prom night promise falls flat, it’ll be because the dastardly deep state was just too entrenched.   *****rollingeyes*****

Uh...this isn't chess.  Hell...it isn't even checkers!

President Trump has sandbagged Pelosi and the Democrats. 

This is timed to break around the same time of the year when he rode that escalator...going into 2020.

In 2016, he said we were getting ripped off, etc.. and he wanted to stem the flood of Mexico's not-finest.

in 2020, he's going to hold up the indictments and evidence that will see a super-majority Republican Party going forward.

....I can dream, can't I?
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: corbe on May 24, 2019, 02:50:39 am
   Absolutely @DCPatriot and I do hope that sooner rather than later I can share your optimism, unfortunately I have become too JADED and it's not so much Trump as it is DC as a whole.  It's bigger than him and though his efforts may be Noble they always seem inadequate to me.

Dire Straits - The Man's Too Strong

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Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 24, 2019, 02:54:47 am
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Byron York ‏Verified account @ByronYork

7m7 minutes ago

Talking to plugged-in Republicans about Trump declassification order.   They see giving AG Barr authority will speed the process.

 Added benefit: Quick declassification could allow DOJ IG Horowitz to include more stuff in his upcoming report.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 24, 2019, 02:56:50 am
Rudy Giuliani
Verified accountï‚™ @RudyGiuliani 

Get ready for the declassified documents. It may require the media to cover #SPYGATE. Was it a frame-up? Comey seems to have perjured himself by signing an affidavit described as verified. Did Brennan and Clapper know it was a false charge? Did the Obama WH and DOJ know?

6:23 PM - 23 May 2019

https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1131732501406343168
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 24, 2019, 02:58:35 am
Rudy Giuliani
Verified accountï‚™ @RudyGiuliani 

As the full scope of this conspiracy emerges it will challenge the very core of the mainstream media. Will their concern about the integrity of their government overcome their pathological hatred of @realDonaldTrump? I hope it will.

6:32 PM - 23 May 2019  from Manhattan, NY

https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1131734786622545922
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 24, 2019, 02:59:50 am
Rudy Giuliani
Verified accountï‚™ @RudyGiuliani 

Doesn’t the public have the right to know if high level Obama  officials participated in a deliberate plan to prevent, and then remove, @realDonaldTrump? Dems are really nervous because they fear the worst...#SPYGATE.

7:14 PM - 23 May 2019

https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1131745318926602240
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 24, 2019, 03:02:05 am
Quote
Adam Schiff
Verified accountï‚™ @RepAdamSchiff 

While Trump stonewalls the public from learning the truth about his obstruction of justice,

Trump and Barr conspire to weaponize law enforcement and classified information against their political enemies.

The coverup has entered a new and dangerous phase.

This is un-American.


6:57 PM - 23 May 2019 

https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff/status/1131740851909083137?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet



Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 24, 2019, 03:05:26 am
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Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: corbe on May 24, 2019, 03:16:17 am
   You know @Right_in_Virginia I'm gonna try really hard and not pizz on your parade here cause I know from experience that your floats are electrified and the Mods always send me to the Time Out Room (with a strait jacket on).
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: dancer on May 24, 2019, 03:27:56 am
Jim Hoft
‏Verified account @gatewaypundit
3m3 minutes ago

BREAKING..... IT'S HAPPENING!  President Trump Releases Statement -- Calls on DOJ to Declassify Intel Related to Spying on Trump Campaign

YES!  Declass brings down the House!   :patriot:
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: catfish1957 on May 24, 2019, 04:43:01 am
   It shows you just how screwed up everything is in DC when it takes a Presidential Directive to 'prod' certain Department Heads to cooperate with the United States Attorney General.


Amen.  Our government has become one great big obfusication exercise.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: catfish1957 on May 24, 2019, 04:50:47 am
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Headlines are headlines.  One thing I've learned is that you never get your hopes up too much. 

Good example is back in '15 when many of us were led to believe that Trey Gowdy had the goods on Hitlerly.  We all know how that turned out.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: edpc on May 24, 2019, 06:25:20 am
Uh...this isn't chess.  Hell...it isn't even checkers!

President Trump has sandbagged Pelosi and the Democrats. 

This is timed to break around the same time of the year when he rode that escalator...going into 2020.

In 2016, he said we were getting ripped off, etc.. and he wanted to stem the flood of Mexico's not-finest.

in 2020, he's going to hold up the indictments and evidence that will see a super-majority Republican Party going forward.

....I can dream, can't I?


Yes, you can dream, because that's exactly what it would be. In order to believe all that, you'd also have to realize others who would have access to the truth (ie Gowdy and Ryan) saw the intel, then decided to leave government, anyway. Trump would have also been aware, but made zero mention of it on the campaign trail, to increase the Senate majority and retain the House.

Instead, he spent time and political capital, making phony campaign promises for a 10% middle class tax cut, allowed many around him to be prosecuted, then jailed, let himself to become mired in a unnecessary and losing battle over the shut down, plus wasted 2018-20 away, for some fantasy grand political strategy for 2020? Come on, man....
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on May 24, 2019, 10:16:39 am
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Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 24, 2019, 01:32:31 pm
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Trump Orders Declassification of Obama-Era Russia Probe Intel
Real Clear Politics, May 24, 2019

[...]

The declassification process will undoubtedly shed new light on the role FBI officials, including former Director James Comey and his deputy, Andrew McCabe, as well as former FBI agent Peter Strzok, lawyer Lisa Page and former Associate Deputy Director Bruce Ohr, played in seeking the warrant application under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to begin spying on Page. 
 
The move also could help detail the role former CIA Director John Brennan played in pushing the narrative regarding Russian efforts to penetrate the Trump campaign. The first evidence of those efforts, according to media reports, came from foreign intelligence sources’ tipoffs, based on voice intercepts, computer traffic or human sources based outside the United States, dating back to 2015. 

Former National Intelligence Director James Clapper has argued that the unproven “Russian dossier” that Steele composed — and which was bankrolled by the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign — was not the primary source for the FISA warrants. If not, then the declassified FISA-related documents will undoubtedly show what other information officials used to secure the surveillance warrants. 

More:  https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/05/24/trump_orders_declassification_of_obama-era_russia_probe_intel__140417.html (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2019/05/24/trump_orders_declassification_of_obama-era_russia_probe_intel__140417.html)
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: verga on May 24, 2019, 02:27:04 pm
Right now it really sucks to have been a Clinton, Obama loyalist.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: austingirl on May 24, 2019, 02:33:27 pm
Waiting for arrests and indictments. :pop41:
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Sanguine on May 24, 2019, 02:33:57 pm
Right now it really sucks to have been a Clinton, Obama loyalist.

It should! 

I watched Austan Goolsby on Hannity's show last night.  I watched it because Dan Bongino was hosting.  He shut Goolsby right down.  Wouldn't let him get away with the usual lies.  Very satisfying.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 24, 2019, 02:42:05 pm
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 :laughingdog:


I am all for going after the people who have been wasting American taxpayer money with this circus.  But I am tired of the story and tired that National matters like the invasion at the border is taking the back seat to all this excitement.  Not right.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on May 24, 2019, 02:54:53 pm
Right now it really sucks to have been a Clinton, Obama loyalist.
Not if you're trying to sell books or get more bookings on news shows.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 24, 2019, 03:01:08 pm
It should! 

I watched Austan Goolsby on Hannity's show last night.  I watched it because Dan Bongino was hosting.  He shut Goolsby right down.  Wouldn't let him get away with the usual lies.  Very satisfying.

I saw that...it was great!

"Well, you know the Republicans first hired Fusion GPS..."
"Hold it right there, Austin!  Stop!  I will not let you get away with telling the lie the GOP was responsible for the fake dossier..."
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 24, 2019, 03:02:32 pm

 :laughingdog:


I am all for going after the people who have been wasting American taxpayer money with this circus.  But I am tired of the story and tired that National matters like the invasion at the border is taking the back seat to all this excitement.  Not right.

Going after the miscreants will stop the instant this story "goes away."
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: corbe on May 24, 2019, 03:19:36 pm
   I had thought the 'O'riginal Fusion GPS dossier started with the Rubio campaign as opposition research on Trump, am I wrong (again) @Cyber Liberty
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 24, 2019, 03:39:35 pm
   I had thought the 'O'riginal Fusion GPS dossier started with the Rubio campaign as opposition research on Trump, am I wrong (again) @Cyber Liberty

I think Fusion was first hired by Little Marco, but the Steele hiring came after Hillz hired them.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: corbe on May 24, 2019, 04:09:21 pm
   Ok, Thanks @Cyber Liberty   
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: EdJames on May 24, 2019, 04:34:52 pm
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Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: bilo on May 24, 2019, 05:07:46 pm
AG William Barr given power to declassify documents on surveillance activities into Trump campaign
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ag-william-barr-given-power-to-declassify-documents-on-surveillance-activities-into-trump-campaign (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ag-william-barr-given-power-to-declassify-documents-on-surveillance-activities-into-trump-campaign)

Don't get too excited too quickly.

Barr is a serious minded fellow. He will be very careful about what he releases, especially if he is going to seek indictments.

I think this is all going to take time. However, I would bet Pelosi probably wishes she kept her mouth shut. She is the one who let this get out of hand with her impeachment and cover up talk. The Rats just haven't learned. Trump is not a typical Pub. He fights back!
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: verga on May 24, 2019, 05:24:09 pm
Don't get too excited too quickly.

Barr is a serious minded fellow. He will be very careful about what he releases, especially if he is going to seek indictments.

I think this is all going to take time. However, I would bet Pelosi probably wishes she kept her mouth shut. She is the one who let this get out of hand with her impeachment and cover up talk. The Rats just haven't learned. Trump is not a typical Pub. He fights back!
'Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line!' Vizzini "The Princess bride."
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: GrouchoTex on May 24, 2019, 06:09:49 pm
@corbe

Please start a poll betting which one of the Four Horses of the Apocalypse is going to 'unexpectedly' die first.

Brennan, Clapper, Comey, or Lynch?

@DCPatriot
@corbe

I'd go with Comey falling on his sword, out of this group.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: GrouchoTex on May 24, 2019, 06:13:59 pm


That is just about what I would expect from Schiff.

First, he says he wants it all released.

Now he's saying it will be used as a weapon against democrats if released.

Talking out of both sides of his mouth.

Shouldn't be surprised.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: DCPatriot on May 24, 2019, 06:25:27 pm
@DCPatriot
@corbe

I'd go with Comey falling on his sword, out of this group.

Comey thought he was doing Hillary a big favor with his October 2016 press conference exonerating her because they "...couldn't find any intent".

Comey took directions from Loretta Lynch, who thought she was headed for Hillary's Supreme Court.

Comey hired CIA spook Stefan Halper to work Papadopoulos.  Enticed him to foreign soil to meet people who presented him with $10K CASH as a good-faith retainer.

Luckily Papadopoulos smelled a rat and left the cash with somebody in Europe.

When he landed in the US, his bags were torn apart...looking for the $$$.

Yep....Comey it will be.

I think he should be picked up immediately and placed in federal protection.   For everybody's sake.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: libertybele on May 24, 2019, 06:31:46 pm
Waiting for arrests and indictments. :pop41:

I would love to see it, but I wouldn't get too excited. Trump had to have known about this information long ago.  If there truly was something there, why would he wait till now??  Certainly you would think that he would have exposed all to ensure the win during the mid terms.  He's never going to be able to take down Clinton, Comey, Holder, Jaret, Bammy, etc.  The Mueller investigation was used to cover up all.  Almost two years in the making, the cover-up was completed, otherwise Mueller would have kept on.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: mystery-ak on May 24, 2019, 06:35:40 pm
Trump says he 'declassified potentially millions of pages of documents' from Russia investigation
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-says-he-declassified-potentially-millions-of-pages-of-documents-from-russia-investigation (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-says-he-declassified-potentially-millions-of-pages-of-documents-from-russia-investigation)
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: edpc on May 24, 2019, 06:36:18 pm
Comey hired CIA spook Stefan Halper to work Papadopoulos.  Enticed him to foreign soil and presented him with $10K as a good-faith retainer.


Nope.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/08/21/papadopoulos-foreign-agent-israel/
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on May 24, 2019, 06:40:50 pm
I would love to see it, but I wouldn't get too excited. Trump had to have known about this information long ago.  If there truly was something there, why would he wait till now??  Certainly you would think that he would have exposed all to ensure the win during the mid terms.  He's never going to be able to take down Clinton, Comey, Holder, Jaret, Bammy, etc.  The Mueller investigation was used to cover up all.  Almost two years in the making, the cover-up was completed, otherwise Mueller would have kept on.

He wasn't running during the midterms.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: DCPatriot on May 24, 2019, 06:47:38 pm

Nope.

https://dailycaller.com/2018/08/21/papadopoulos-foreign-agent-israel/

Headline has nothing to do with my statement.  Never claimed Halper was a foreign agent...but you can bet your ass he is/was.

I'm saying that it was Halper who first met Papadopoulos about an opportunity abroad.   

Good bye.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: edpc on May 24, 2019, 06:52:38 pm
Headline has nothing to do with my statement.  Never claimed Halper was a foreign agent...but you can bet your ass he is/was.

I'm saying that it was Halper who first met Papadopoulos about an opportunity abroad.   

Good bye.


No, you just said that Halper was the one that gave Papadopoulos the $10K. In fact, it was given by an Israeli-American businessman, related to oil/gas consulting. You can’t create a case on things that didn’t actually occur.

Later.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: GrouchoTex on May 24, 2019, 06:53:47 pm
Headline has nothing to do with my statement.  Never claimed Halper was a foreign agent...but you can bet your ass he is/was.

I'm saying that it was Halper who first met Papadopoulos about an opportunity abroad.   

Good bye.

That's the way I've heard the story as well.

I had not heard that Comey had hired him, but Brennan, Clapper, and Lynch would say it was Comey anyway.
They'd never admit it, if they were the ones that didit.
Comey won't either, but someone has to take the fall.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: DCPatriot on May 24, 2019, 06:56:55 pm

No, you just said that Halper was the one that gave Papadopoulos the $10K. In fact, it was given by an Israeli-American businessman, related to oil/gas consulting. You can’t create a case on things that didn’t actually occur.

Later.

Halper introduced Papadopoulos to the $$$ man.   Halper only told Papadopoulos of the business opportunity...met him there.

Geezuz   try to keep up.               

22222frying pan

edpc         DCP
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: edpc on May 24, 2019, 07:02:52 pm
Halper introduced Papadopoulos to the $$$ man.   Halper only told Papadopoulos of the business opportunity...met him there.

Geezuz   try to keep up.               

22222frying pan

edpc         DCP


David Ha’ivri, an Israeli activist and author, told TheDCNF said that he introduced Tawil and Papadopoulos “at my own initiative” to facilitate a business deal involving an oil and gas project in the Aegean and Mediterranean seas.


Try reading the story. Geezuz.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: libertybele on May 24, 2019, 07:41:25 pm
He wasn't running during the midterms.

Oh, good grief. Of course he wasn't and that is not what I meant.  The House would have never gone to the DEMS had Trump exposed whatever dirt he supposedly has on them.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: EdJames on May 24, 2019, 08:03:59 pm
Oh, good grief. Of course he wasn't and that is not what I meant.  The House would have never gone to the DEMS had Trump exposed whatever dirt he supposedly has on them.

This declassification order was never going to be able to be made until after the Mueller investigation had completed.  Aside from the public perception issue that Trump was "obstructing justice" by declassifying and potentially releasing some of these documents, Mueller's investigators pretty much had frozen a large number of potential documents as being part of their ongoing investigations.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: edpc on May 24, 2019, 08:11:19 pm
He wasn't running during the midterms.


Really? He seemed to think so. As usual, he found a way to make it about him. Of course, after the loss, it wasn’t his fault.  :shrug:


“Republicans have to go out and vote. And they say if I was on the ticket, everybody would go. It would be a landslide. Even the fakers back there, they say that,” Trump said, referring to the news media. “And I’m not on the ticket, but I am on the ticket because this is also a referendum about me and the disgusting gridlock that they’ll put this country through.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/03/trump-election-is-referendum-me-also-trump-let-me-do-an-imitation/?utm_term=.955e66bdbab3 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2018/10/03/trump-election-is-referendum-me-also-trump-let-me-do-an-imitation/?utm_term=.955e66bdbab3)
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: GrouchoTex on May 24, 2019, 08:12:30 pm
This declassification order was never going to be able to be made until after the Mueller investigation had completed.  Aside from the public perception issue that Trump was "obstructing justice" by declassifying and potentially releasing some of these documents, Mueller's investigators pretty much had frozen a large number of potential documents as being part of their ongoing investigations.

I agree, President Trump couldn't call for the declassification of something that would be used as evidence while the investigation was ongoing.
He would have to wait for its conclusion.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: corbe on May 24, 2019, 08:24:08 pm
   Very Important point @EdJames @GrouchoTex
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: EdJames on May 24, 2019, 10:13:28 pm
   Very Important point @EdJames @GrouchoTex

@corbe we are always here to help, comrade!

 wink777
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Bigun on May 25, 2019, 12:44:11 am
This declassification order was never going to be able to be made until after the Mueller investigation had completed.  Aside from the public perception issue that Trump was "obstructing justice" by declassifying and potentially releasing some of these documents, Mueller's investigators pretty much had frozen a large number of potential documents as being part of their ongoing investigations.

That is exactly correct.  Thanks @EdJames
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: bigheadfred on May 25, 2019, 03:21:23 am
Haven't read the entire thread.

Julian Assange....?

Who knows....what...and can prove it....?

Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: EdJames on May 25, 2019, 01:40:32 pm
That is exactly correct.  Thanks @EdJames

 888high58888
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: sneakypete on May 25, 2019, 02:34:25 pm
This is BIG people...I thought you would all be thrilled....this is a tough audience :2popcorn:

@mystery-ak

It has the potential to be YUGE!

I say "potential" because we need to wait and see how many Dim bills pass through Congress to stop this,and how many other roadblocks are put in the way to stop it until at least after the next elections.

Does anyone REALLY think the evil criminal creatures that run the DNC and their bosses are going to take this lying down? It is a DIRECT threat to their power,and they just can't sit still ad let it slide past them unopposed.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 25, 2019, 02:51:13 pm
@mystery-ak

It has the potential to be YUGE!

I say "potential" because we need to wait and see how many Dim bills pass through Congress to stop this,and how many other roadblocks are put in the way to stop it until at least after the next elections.

Does anyone REALLY think the evil criminal creatures that run the DNC and their bosses are going to take this lying down? It is a DIRECT threat to their power,and they just can't sit still ad let it slide past them unopposed.

@sneakypete

I expect the Rats will use their favorite method to stop this: A Federal District Judge in a leftist circuit will issue an injunction.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: 240B on May 25, 2019, 02:57:53 pm
@sneakypete

I expect the Rats will use their favorite method to stop this: A Federal District Judge in a leftist circuit will issue an injunction.
True. Somehow, Someway, the American political system today has mysteriously evolved in such a way that unknown, unelected Judges from anywhere have VETO power over anything the President does. This needs to be fixed.

It makes no sense at all.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 25, 2019, 03:22:57 pm
True. Somehow, Someway, the American political system today has mysteriously evolved in such a way that unknown, unelected Judges from anywhere have VETO power over anything the President does. This needs to be fixed.

It makes no sense at all.

It's deference to tyrants wearing black robes.  Boyd Hartman warned us about this a few years ago.

Tyrants in Black Robes at Amazon (https://smile.amazon.com/Tyrants-Black-Robes-Destroyed-Republic/dp/1503552160/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=tyrants+in+black+robes&qid=1558797504&s=books&sr=1-1)

Mark Levin has also written several books on the subject for even longer.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: corbe on May 25, 2019, 07:33:51 pm
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Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: EdJames on May 25, 2019, 08:10:53 pm
@sneakypete

I expect the Rats will use their favorite method to stop this: A Federal District Judge in a leftist circuit will issue an injunction.

I'm not so sure that will be necessary.

IMO the pushback is going to come from the agency chiefs regarding what Barr wants access to.  Even though Trump has given Barr the power to request what he believes that he needs, I'm not so sure that they are going to comply very easily.  That will set up some direct faceoffs between Barr and the chiefs.  How far will Barr push it?

And even though Trump has appointed them, it is naive to believe that Wray, Haspel, Coats are "Trump people."  We always need to remember that it is a small set of people that the Senate (regardless of which party controls it) will deem 'acceptable' as appointments to these positions.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 25, 2019, 08:35:00 pm
I'm not so sure that will be necessary.

IMO the pushback is going to come from the agency chiefs regarding what Barr wants access to.  Even though Trump has given Barr the power to request what he believes that he needs, I'm not so sure that they are going to comply very easily.  That will set up some direct faceoffs between Barr and the chiefs.  How far will Barr push it?

And even though Trump has appointed them, it is naive to believe that Wray, Haspel, Coats are "Trump people."  We always need to remember that it is a small set of people that the Senate (regardless of which party controls it) will deem 'acceptable' as appointments to these positions.

Quite right.  I saw a story this morning that the Director of National Intelligence (Coats) said the information Barr gets from him will be redacted.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: berdie on May 25, 2019, 09:08:14 pm
I think I'll wait to be excited if something actually happens.  Even if it does...it won't be reported.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Bigun on May 26, 2019, 02:30:21 am
I'm not so sure that will be necessary.

IMO the pushback is going to come from the agency chiefs regarding what Barr wants access to.  Even though Trump has given Barr the power to request what he believes that he needs, I'm not so sure that they are going to comply very easily.  That will set up some direct faceoffs between Barr and the chiefs.  How far will Barr push it?

And even though Trump has appointed them, it is naive to believe that Wray, Haspel, Coats are "Trump people."  We always need to remember that it is a small set of people that the Senate (regardless of which party controls it) will deem 'acceptable' as appointments to these positions.

The most lucid assessment I've seen to date @EdJames.  Anyone who believes draining the swamp is going to be easy or quick is outright delusional.  The swamp will resist in every manner at their disposal for as long as possible.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: TomSea on May 26, 2019, 03:03:59 am
Yes, @EdJames analysis, as often, is poignant and an asset to these discussions.
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 26, 2019, 03:06:53 am
Yes, @EdJames analysis, as often, is poignant and an asset to these discussions.

He's good alright.  @EdJames
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: EdJames on May 26, 2019, 01:05:06 pm
@Bigun
@TomSea
@Cyber Liberty

Thanks guys.  All three of you guys add a lot more to the conversations here than my sporadic "lucid" posts!!

 :patriot:
Title: Re: DECLASSIFICATION............YES!
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 26, 2019, 03:07:39 pm
@Bigun
@TomSea
@Cyber Liberty

Thanks guys.  All three of you guys add a lot more to the conversations here than my sporadic "lucid" posts!!

 :patriot:

We're a team....