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Angry at the Failure of His Election Challenges, Trump Calls His Own SCOTUS Nominees Cowardly and Incompetent
Trump thinks the judiciary cannot be trusted to reveal the massive fraud that he says denied him a second term.
Jacob Sullum | 12.27.2020 5:30 PM
Explaining the need to swiftly replace the late Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg with Amy Coney Barrett this fall, Donald Trump said the Court likely would have to rule on disputes about the presidential election. "I think this will end up in the Supreme Court," he told reporters on September 23. "And I think it's very important that we have nine justices….This scam that the Democrats are pulling…will be before the United States Supreme Court. And I think having a 4–4 situation is not a good situation, if you get that. I don't know that you'd get that. I think it should be 8–nothing or 9–nothing. But just in case it would be more political than it should be, I think it's very important to have a ninth justice."
In Trump's view, a ruling against his campaign would be "more political than it should be," while a ruling in which Barrett voted the way the president who picked her wanted her to vote would be untainted by politics. That counterintuitive view looked even more dubious after Barrett's confirmation, when Trump warned the justices that siding with Biden in a post-election case would threaten their status and power. "If Sleepy Joe Biden is actually elected President," he tweeted, "the 4 Justices (plus1) that helped make such a ridiculous win possible would be relegated to sitting on not only a heavily PACKED COURT, but probably a REVOLVING COURT as well."
Trump thought Barrett should dance with the one that brought her. But in case that argument was not persuasive enough, he argued that it was in her personal and professional interest to prevent Biden from taking office. In the end, however, Barrett joined the rest of the Court, including Trump's two other nominees and three justices appointed by Republicans George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush, in declining to hear two cases that sought to overturn Biden's victory.
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https://reason.com/2020/12/27/angry-at-the-failure-of-his-election-challenges-trump-calls-his-own-scotus-nominees-cowardly-and-incompetent/
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Well?
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Well?
He's right. In the face of original jurisdiction, they turned down the case. Cowardice, dereliction of duty, and failure to uphold the very Constitution they are sworn to uphold.
If growing your own grain for personal use can be construed to be covered under the interstate commerce clause, then the court should have taken up the case. Any State affected by the outcome of a nationwide election altered by fraudulent or illegal activities in another State should have standing.
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I can't wait to see what Trump says about Bitch McConnell... who just blocked the $2000 relief bill. Looks like the Bitch is sabotaging the GOP (again and as usual). I wonder what his Chinese wife thinks about that. I bet she's just fine with it. :whistle:
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Trump is absolutely correct; they are cowards!
According to Article II Section 2 of the United States Constitution, the Supreme Court has the following power: “The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;-to all Cases affecting Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls;-to all Cases of admiralty and maritime Jurisdiction;-to Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party;-to Controversies between two or more States;—between a State and Citizens of another State;-between Citizens of different States;—between Citizens of the same State claiming Lands under Grants of different States, and between a State, or the Citizens thereof, and foreign States, Citizens or Subjects.â€
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I can't wait to see what Trump says about Bitch McConnell... who just blocked the $2000 relief bill. Looks like the Bitch is sabotaging the GOP (again and as usual). I wonder what his Chinese wife thinks about that. I bet she's just fine with it. :whistle:
The Turtle is back to his old tricks; I wonder what backroom deals he has already made? 888mouth
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The Turtle is back to his old tricks; I wonder what backroom deals he has already made? 888mouth
I'm sure it has something to do with keeping his status as majority leader.... but he's too dumb to know you can't trust the Democrats and/or the ChiComs to keep their word.
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I'm sure it has something to do with keeping his status as majority leader.... but he's too dumb to know you can't trust the Democrats and/or the ChiComs to keep their word.
The term "useful idiot" comes to mind. A "tool" at best.
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The term "useful idiot" comes to mind. A "tool" at best.
This is exactly what happens when people keep voting in the same "useful idiot" and expecting a different result.
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This is exactly what happens when people keep voting in the same "useful idiot" and expecting a different result.
I wouldn't be so hard on the average voter. It's possible a truly fair election has become a rare thing these days.
Or put another way, I now believe the average election/re-election process is even more corrupt than I had earlier thought.
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Trump needs to shut his pie hole. He wants the USSC to basically appoint him President.
Go home Donny, you lost. Run again in 2024 if you're still POed about it.
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Trump needs to shut his pie hole. He wants the USSC to basically appoint him President.
Go home Donny, you lost. Run again in 2024 if you're still POed about it.
:amen: :amen:
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Trump needs to shut his pie hole. He wants the USSC to basically appoint him President.
Go home Donny, you lost. Run again in 2024 if you're still POed about it.
Need someone with more broad appeal who won’t lose the popular vote by millions to a pair of clown-shoed mediocrities like Joe Frigin Biden and Lady Macbeth Clinton.
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Need someone with more broad appeal who won’t lose the popular vote by millions to a pair of clown-shoed mediocrities like Joe Frigin Biden and Lady Macbeth Clinton.
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Need someone with more broad appeal who won’t lose the popular vote by millions to a pair of clown-shoed mediocrities like Joe Frigin Biden and Lady Macbeth Clinton.
Actually the American people deserve a fair election devoid of fraud and corruption and a SCOTUS that doesn't rule out of fear and with political bias!!!
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Need someone with more broad appeal who won’t lose the popular vote by millions to a pair of clown-shoed mediocrities like Joe Frigin Biden and Lady Macbeth Clinton.
That's going to be a challenge, since the new Republicans will only support the biggest jackass, and then blame everyone else for noticing.
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Trump needs to shut his pie hole. He wants the USSC to basically appoint him President.
Go home Donny, you lost. Run again in 2024 if you're still POed about it.
How about this?
REGARDLESS of what Trump wants, there are at least 75,000,000 voters out here who want elections to be conducted without fraud. That is part and parcel of the duty of the SCOTUS, to uphold fair elections: anything different from one legal voter, one vote, is to deny equal protection under the law.
Considering the Constitution specifies that the Legislatures of the several States shall set their election laws, the changing of those laws by non Legislative actors, from Mayors and Governors to election board supervisors is a de facto violation of that Constitutional delegation of power. All of the jurisdictions in which fraud has been pointed out also changed those rules unconstitutionally to enable that fraud.
SCOTUS has a DUTY to rule on that fundamental and egregious violation, not only of the Constitution, but of the Rights of every legal voter involved in a national election.
I still cannot understand why any American would want anything less than an honest election.
Unless, that is, they are so wrapped up in getting something they want that the process has no meaning for them and the Rights of the rest of us are of no matter. If that is the case, sir, I can dispassionately state that you are my enemy, and an enemy of this Republic.
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Need someone with more broad appeal who won’t lose the popular vote by millions to a pair of clown-shoed mediocrities like Joe Frigin Biden and Lady Macbeth Clinton.
What is needed @FeelNoPain is the free press envisioned by our Founders --- one who observes our political process and speaks truth to power rather than cover its lies and promote them as truths.
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That's going to be a challenge, since the new Republicans will only support the biggest jackass, and then blame everyone else for noticing.
One last time, genius: It is not good strategy to insult the more than 75,000,000 Americans you're going to be begging to vote for your candidate someday.
I suspect you think your hyperbole adds inches, if not feet, to your stature --- but it actually strongly suggests you don't know what the bleep you are talking about and wins you a dismissal from rational Americans. You'd do better to stay aware of this @cato potatoe .
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Only those who do not grasp the full, chilling affect of this Supreme Court's decision on the last hope of the rule of law in this country would ridicule the President's opinion of their action. Unfortunately, these same souls are aligned with those unable to see the precedent this decision sets affecting more than one administration, one presidency, one man.
The decision, in full:
The State of Texas’s motion for leave to file a bill of complaint is denied for lack of standing under Article III of the Constitution. Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections. All other pending motions are dismissed as moot.
Seven members of the US Supreme Court pissed on the Constitution in one sentence and forever changed its established role.
To claim a state - plus 20 who joined the suit - do not have standing in the Electoral College is incomprehensively incorrect --- they are the ones who automatically do. Further, to deny a plaintiff-state a hearing in its court of original jurisdiction is a capricious, blatant and stunning repudiation of Article III, Section II of the United States Constitution.
In one sentence the US Supreme Court declared itself a political entity and the very words of the US Constitution moot upon demand. This should make the blood of every American run cold.
@kevindavis @Weird Tolkienish Figure
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SCOTUS failed to do their job, miserably so.
But hey, who here actually believes we live in a country with justice as a possible outcome? Really?
I believe SCOTUS has REVERSED roughly 25 times or so decisions they have made from prior years and priors SCOTUS courts. What does that tell you exactly? It should tell you they are not infallible. They screw the pooch with some level of regularity on some rather important issues!
There is no doubt there was massive cheating with the POTUS election. That mechanism has not been dealt with, so expecting something different in 2024 is very naive. In fact, that being the way things are, there are folks who will not bother voting in Georgia knowing their vote does not matter in Georgia. Fair and honest elections may well have gone the route of an extinct species. Poof! Gone!!!
Look at Venezuela and Russia, and that is where we have been headed for some time.
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Trump needs to shut his pie hole. He wants the USSC to basically appoint him President.
Go home Donny, you lost. Run again in 2024 if you're still POed about it.
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Some 20 days to go; Praise the Lord!!!
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As Termination Day beckons for Trump, an augury.
He will go his merry way while making a daily donkey's ass of himself, as Trump fades.
But his Toddler Posse will spend the next 1460 days raging/ranting over the "Stolen Election";
wearing out any remaining patience that Plain People have.
This is the legacy of all fanatics, akin to the Birchers and Tea Partiers.
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Angry at the Failure of His Election Challenges, Trump Calls His Own SCOTUS Nominees Cowardly and Incompetent
Trump thinks the judiciary cannot be trusted to reveal the massive fraud that he says denied him a second term.
He is 100 percent right on this.
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I'm sure it has something to do with keeping his status as majority leader.... but he's too dumb to know you can't trust the Democrats and/or the ChiComs to keep their word.
@XenaLee
I suspect you are wrong about that. Primarily because he has the "goods" on them as much as they have the "goods" on him. Maybe even more.
He is no doubt an evil bastard and a traitorous whore for sale to the highest bidder,but he's not stupid or he would have never survived this long.
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He is 100 percent right on this.
:thumbsup: @sneakypete
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Unless, that is, they are so wrapped up in getting something they want that the process has no meaning for them and the Rights of the rest of us are of no matter. If that is the case, sir, I can dispassionately state that you are my enemy, and an enemy of this Republic.
I have been knowing that truth for quite some time now.
Welcome to the party. :laugh:
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I am an enemy, and enemy of idiocy, which is most of you. So welcome my enemies. May my hot cauliflower-smelling farts smite thee.
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As Termination Day beckons for Trump, an augury. He will go his merry way while making a daily donkey's ass of himself, as Trump fades. But his Toddler Posse will spend the next 1460 days raging/ranting over the "Stolen Election"; wearing out any remaining patience that Plain People have. This is the legacy of all fanatics, akin to the Birchers and Tea Partiers.
I see you're still proving the deep thoughts of those over-educated and underlaid still give us the funniest comedy acts on the planet @Absalom Were you able to get a gig performing on New Year's Eve?
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I am an enemy, and enemy of idiocy, which is most of you. So welcome my enemies. May my hot cauliflower-smelling farts smite thee.
So... basically, you're saying that you're an enemy of yourself then.
Got it. (and always suspected as much)
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I am an enemy, and enemy of idiocy, which is most of you. So welcome my enemies. May my hot cauliflower-smelling farts smite thee.
Therefore I am more than happy to put you on 'ignore'. You are an ignorant enemy at that.
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I am an enemy, and enemy of idiocy, which is most of you. So welcome my enemies.
@Weird Tolkienish Figure
Everbodie bees stoopid but yews,huh?
Who told you this,your mama?
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He's right. In the face of original jurisdiction, they turned down the case. Cowardice, dereliction of duty, and failure to uphold the very Constitution they are sworn to uphold.
If growing your own grain for personal use can be construed to be covered under the interstate commerce clause, then the court should have taken up the case. Any State affected by the outcome of a nationwide election altered by fraudulent or illegal activities in another State should have standing.
Yes he is correct. :thumbsup:
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I wouldn't be so hard on the average voter. It's possible a truly fair election has become a rare thing these days.
Or put another way, I now believe the average election/re-election process is even more corrupt than I had earlier thought.
Yes. :thumbsup:
What don't people get that VOTER FRAUD has gone on for decades in demon-rat party?
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Suffice to say, some people were dropped on their heads at birth. And Weird, we know who is on that list!
Dark times are ahead with Biden/Harris. I am preparing for a major downturn in the market. I intend to do as many puts as I can in options.
I see Biden returning us to a level lower than Obama at best. What was the market when Obama left, about 18,000 DOW. I doubt it will happen right away, for they will attempt to buffer the market to make Biden look better than he is, but as the Dems go to town with creating two new states, possibly changing the court, undo all of Trumps EOs over night, end drilling on federal lands, and the issuance of drilling permits. And all the regulations that will come about by people left with their feet up for the past four years will be suffocating. Business will die, millions will lose their job, the new normal will return, along with the GND and Climate Change crap to further suffocate the USA and its people. And the flooding in of many millions will not help matters any.
Get ready for $5 a gallon gas, and a doubling if not tripling of the cost to heat/cool your house. And beef, enjoy it while it lasts, for the only people eating beef will be those with their own farms. Got to end those farts that are causing Climate Change.....ugggh!!!!!
USA citizens are now NON ESSENTIAL with the coming Biden Administration.
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USA citizens are now NON ESSENTIAL with the coming Biden Administration.
@jafo2010
Not only non-essential,but a roadblock to "progress".
Damn non-Jewish white people,ya just cain't trust em!
Unless of course they are female and married to someone not white.
Make no mistake about it,this is going to be a political race war,with white people being the target.
This is what white people get for being a minority of the world population in a world were "equality" means "not white".
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Anyone want to know why the Right loses elections...and why we just had a fraudulent theft of an American presidential election with minimal pushback from a lot of Republicans/Conservatives?
You need look no further than the attitude of Feel no Pain, Weird Tolkienish, Absalom, kevindavis...these people sit out elections, vote for obscure 3rd party idiots, or vote Dem....just of spite. They don't care if the election was a fraud...they're cool with that if it means Trump loses...because they would rather see Kamala Harris in the White House than a Republic President they don't support. Its pathetic.
Any party that holds a primary for national office...but is unable to hold together behind whomever wins that primary...is doomed to defeat. And spare me blaming the party's nominee...the fault lies not in our nominee(s), but in our inability as conservative voters to pull together and win a national election.
You argue the issues and fight it out like mad dogs in a primary...and then EVERYONE rallies behind the winner. That's how the Dems win...they have discipline to hold together for the national elections even after fighting it out in a primary. Republicans and conservatives...take our ball and go home if we don't fully get our way on every issue we find important.
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Calling his own SCOTUS nominees cowards? I thought he only hired the best?
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Calling his own SCOTUS nominees cowards? I thought he only hired the best?
While you make a good point...one can discern ideology by looking at a judge's track record. The President chose SCJ who were adamantly approved of by nearly every conservative judicial rating organizatio...universally deemed staunchly conservative and to be solid picks.
Courage, unfortunately, is very hard to measure until a man/woman is put to the test...and we have a number of justices who have now been "weighed, measured...and found wanting" in that category.
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While you make a good point...one can discern ideology by looking at a judge's track record. Courage is very hard to measure until a man/woman is put to the test...and we have a number of justices who have now been "weighed, measured...and found wanting" in that category.
My point had a kind of factitous angle to it. As has been said so often already, nobody was privy to discussions between Roberts and the new justices as far as allowing precedence of this type and nature , and what the implications may have been.
Bottom line the swamp dictated the result.
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My point had a kind of factitous angle to it. As has been said so often already, nobody was privy to discussions between Roberts and the new justices as far as allowing precedence of this type and nature , and what the implications may have been.
Bottom line the swamp dictated the result.
Don't get me started on Roberts.
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I am an enemy, and enemy of idiocy, which is most of you. So welcome my enemies. May my hot cauliflower-smelling farts smite thee.
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A thought for you.
Leaving aside Trump's Narcissism, his compulsive lying as well as infantile attitude and behavior, why is he beyond obsessed w/staying in the WH???
It should be obvious this has nothing to do w/Principle, which he wouldn't know from a pothole.
A clue comes from the noise coming from the NYC/NYS District Attorneys; who are actively looking at tax fraud and perjury charges against the Trump Organization for which there is no Statute of Limitations.
As such, Trump's Parade of Pardons can be seen as nothing more than self-serving actions
to prevent extremely dangerous testimony.
Of course, his die-hards will vehemently disagree but Plain People are hardly shocked!!!
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You need look no further than the attitude of Feel no Pain, Weird Tolkienish, Absalom, kevindavis...these people sit out elections, vote for obscure 3rd party idiots, or vote Dem....
Not since 2004.
Not since 2008.
Nope... well I used to be a Democrat, but haven't voted for a Dem since 2002.
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A thought for you.
Leaving aside Trump's Narcissism, his compulsive lying as well as infantile attitude and behavior,
why is he beyond obsessed w/staying in the WH???
I think he just has a giant Ego... well I know he has one, always has. I'm not sure if he's delusional or cynical or both in this sort of insane behavior.
Remember, I voted for him. Twice. So I feel I have a right to criticize him, people here feel differently.
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Anyone want to know why the Right loses elections...and why we just had a fraudulent theft of an American presidential election with minimal pushback from a lot of Republicans/Conservatives?
You need look no further than the attitude of Feel no Pain, Weird Tolkienish, Absalom, kevindavis...these people sit out elections, vote for obscure 3rd party idiots, or vote Dem....just of spite. They don't care if the election was a fraud...they're cool with that if it means Trump loses...because they would rather see Kamala Harris in the White House than a Republic President they don't support. Its pathetic.
Any party that holds a primary for national office...but is unable to hold together behind whomever wins that primary...is doomed to defeat. And spare me blaming the party's nominee...the fault lies not in our nominee(s), but in our inability as conservative voters to pull together and win a national election.
You argue the issues and fight it out like mad dogs in a primary...and then EVERYONE rallies behind the winner. That's how the Dems win...they have discipline to hold together for the national elections even after fighting it out in a primary. Republicans and conservatives...take our ball and go home if we don't fully get our way on every issue we find important.
How many does it take to win when the tabulating machines are programmed to ensure you opponent gets 54% of the vote? You can't win, no matter how many votes you get. We will never know how many voted for Trump in 27 states.
Yes, America, this IS the hill to die on, and America is dying.
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Calling his own SCOTUS nominees cowards? I thought he only hired the best?
Even the best jurist can be a coward. Being a jurist is a question of being capable with the law, being a coward is lacking the intestinal fortitude to use that capability.
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My point had a kind of factitous angle to it. As has been said so often already, nobody was privy to discussions between Roberts and the new justices as far as allowing precedence of this type and nature , and what the implications may have been.
Bottom line the swamp dictated the result.
Everyone has some dirt, with rare exception (none is without sin).
With the rabid media chasing down any iota of weakness in a person's narrative (depending on who that person is), cheating on a second grade spelling test might be considered cause for Capital punishment, where some get away with murder.
I have little doubt threats were made, to professional or physical safety of justices and their families.
The bottom line is that NO ONE is doing the job we pay them to do.
FIRE THE LOT OF THEM>>>>Don't reelect anyone.
If all the Republicans in Georgia voted democrat, would that peel the lid off? If the Communists got 100% of the vote? Would it show that the election is a sham? Would that even be enough for people to say "ENOUGH!"?
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@Smokin Joe
If indeed they take the Georgia Senators, history will NOT be kind toward the 'Radical Conservative extremist/racist Trump Supporter'.
I believe THAT is the reason so many Senate Republicans and Reps are reluctant to become "Spartacus!"
They're betting that 'Trumpism' was just an earthquake whose dust has settled.
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Anyone want to know why the Right loses elections...and why we just had a fraudulent theft of an American presidential election with minimal pushback from a lot of Republicans/Conservatives?
You need look no further than the attitude of Feel no Pain, Weird Tolkienish, Absalom, kevindavis...these people sit out elections, vote for obscure 3rd party idiots, or vote Dem....just of spite. They don't care if the election was a fraud...they're cool with that if it means Trump loses...because they would rather see Kamala Harris in the White House than a Republic President they don't support. Its pathetic.
@Mesaclone
And there it is. They have the maturity of 5 year old children. If they don't get EVERYTHING they want,they are going to have hissy-fits,stomp their little feets,and roll around on the ground crying.
Not only that,but if THEY are unhappy,EVERYBODY needs to be unhappy because after all,the whole damn world revolves around what THEY want,right?
I suspect most of them,given the immense size of their egos and the pain and suffering they would go through if they were proven wrong,voted for Biden to make sure they wouldn't be proven wrong.
Hey,it's all about "Me,me,ME,DAMMIT!"
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My point had a kind of factitous angle to it. As has been said so often already, nobody was privy to discussions between Roberts and the new justices as far as allowing precedence of this type and nature , and what the implications may have been.
Bottom line the swamp dictated the result.
@catfish1957
And no one knows what,if any threats were made to them or their relatives if they didn't "play ball".
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Back to my basic motive. I didn't vote for Trump. I voted for a President. He has done a good enough job, in that respect, to get my vote. Still.
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@Smokin Joe
If indeed they take the Georgia Senators, history will NOT be kind toward the 'Radical Conservative extremist/racist Trump Supporter'.
I believe THAT is the reason so many Senate Republicans and Reps are reluctant to become "Spartacus!"
They're betting that 'Trumpism' was just an earthquake whose dust has settled.
The irony here is this would be more true if the state and federal level Republicans back on Nov 4th had united and fought tooth and nail for the President against the steal. Even if they were unsuccessful they could have keep millions in the GOP fold. But by sitting on their hands for a month and throwing the baby out with the bathwater now the GOP will lose tens and tens of millions ---- and guess whose open arms they're going to jump into. The GOP's wishful thinking will end up making he who they will not name again even stronger a political player than he is now. 888blackhat
999wine Happy New Year, @DCPatriot
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The irony here is this would be more true if the state and federal level Republicans back on Nov 4th had united and fought tooth and nail for the President against the steal. Even if they were unsuccessful they could have keep millions in the GOP fold. But by sitting on their hands for a month and throwing the baby out with the bathwater now the GOP will lose tens and tens of millions ---- and guess whose open arms they're going to jump into. The GOP's wishful thinking will end up making he who they will not name again even stronger a political player than he is now. 888blackhat
999wine Happy New Year, @DCPatriot
@Right_in_Virginia
And to you, my dear FRiend! :laugh: :beer:
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The irony here is this would be more true if the state and federal level Republicans back on Nov 4th had united and fought tooth and nail for the President against the steal. Even if they were unsuccessful they could have keep millions in the GOP fold. But by sitting on their hands for a month and throwing the baby out with the bathwater now the GOP will lose tens and tens of millions ---- and guess whose open arms they're going to jump into. The GOP's wishful thinking will end up making he who they will not name again even stronger a political player than he is now. 888blackhat
999wine Happy New Year, @DCPatriot
You are damn right.
Anyone who thinks the Trump phenomena is going to fade simply doesn't understand the connection between Trump and his voters. We...and by "we" I mean the 80+ million who voted for the President...don't want milquetoast elites, compassionate conservatives nor purist intellectuals....we want someone who can put his knuckles up and punch the F out of these bastards who are trying to steal the country by stealing votes.
So folks who think anyone other than Donald Trump is going to be THE Conservative running for President in 2024...assuming the steal can't be stopped in 2020...are dreaming. Donald Trump IS the conservative candidate for the 2024 election, be that in the GOP or as part of a new party he leads.
The time for internal squabbles, political pacifism, intellectual pontificating and "taking my ball and going home" is long past...Donald Trump will never stop fighting for conservatism and WE will never stop having his back in that fight. Sure...the NT's will continue striving to Quisling their way to defeat....undercutting us as we fight these BLM/Antifa/Progressive/Socialists....but we will continue fight them nonetheless and to fight for the 2024 conservative standard bearer.
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You are damn right.
Anyone who thinks the Trump phenomena is going to fade simply doesn't understand the connection between Trump and his voters. We...and by "we" I mean the 80+ million who voted for the President...don't want milquetoast elites, compassionate conservatives nor purist intellectuals....we want someone who can put his knuckles up and punch the F out of these bastards who are trying to steal the country by stealing votes.
So folks who think anyone other than Donald Trump is going to be THE Conservative running for President in 2024...assuming the steal can't be stopped in 2020...are dreaming. Donald Trump IS the conservative candidate for the 2024 election, be that in the GOP or as part of a new party he leads.
The time for internal squabbles, political pacifism, intellectual pontificating and "taking my ball and going home" is long past...Donald Trump will never stop fighting for conservatism and WE will never stop having his back in that fight. Sure...the NT's will continue striving to Quisling their way to defeat....undercutting us as we fight these BLM/Antifa/Progressive/Socialists....but we will continue fight them nonetheless and to fight for the 2024 conservative standard bearer.
Spot on, ! @Mesaclone
Happy New Year! :beer:
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goopo
You are damn right.
Anyone who thinks the Trump phenomena is going to fade simply doesn't understand the connection between Trump and his voters. We...and by "we" I mean the 80+ million who voted for the President...don't want milquetoast elites, compassionate conservatives nor purist intellectuals....we want someone who can put his knuckles up and punch the F out of these bastards who are trying to steal the country by stealing votes.
So folks who think anyone other than Donald Trump is going to be THE Conservative running for President in 2024...assuming the steal can't be stopped in 2020...are dreaming. Donald Trump IS the conservative candidate for the 2024 election, be that in the GOP or as part of a new party he leads.
The time for internal squabbles, political pacifism, intellectual pontificating and "taking my ball and going home" is long past...Donald Trump will never stop fighting for conservatism and WE will never stop having his back in that fight. Sure...the NT's will continue striving to Quisling their way to defeat....undercutting us as we fight these BLM/Antifa/Progressive/Socialists....but we will continue fight them nonetheless and to fight for the 2024 conservative standard bearer.
goopo
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You are damn right.
Anyone who thinks the Trump phenomena is going to fade simply doesn't understand the connection between Trump and his voters. We...and by "we" I mean the 80+ million who voted for the President...don't want milquetoast elites, compassionate conservatives nor purist intellectuals....we want someone who can put his knuckles up and punch the F out of these bastards who are trying to steal the country by stealing votes.
So folks who think anyone other than Donald Trump is going to be THE Conservative running for President in 2024...assuming the steal can't be stopped in 2020...are dreaming. Donald Trump IS the conservative candidate for the 2024 election, be that in the GOP or as part of a new party he leads.
The time for internal squabbles, political pacifism, intellectual pontificating and "taking my ball and going home" is long past...Donald Trump will never stop fighting for conservatism and WE will never stop having his back in that fight. Sure...the NT's will continue striving to Quisling their way to defeat....undercutting us as we fight these BLM/Antifa/Progressive/Socialists....but we will continue fight them nonetheless and to fight for the 2024 conservative standard bearer.
I don't think the momentum of Keep America Great is going to fade, however reality needs to take a place here.
The election was stolen. The Supreme Court failed to even hear the case. It doesn't matter the reason, they failed to do their job without bias, and they stomped on the Constitution. Therefore, the electoral process has loss all integrity and there is absolutely no logic in thinking that we're going to see another fair election. The DEMS will have the majority; they will stack the courts, do away with the electoral college and grant asylum along with voting rights to illegals. ALL of these things equate to no Republican being seated, not at the federal level and doubtful also at the state level.
Even IF Trump were to run in 2024 it will be mathematically impossible for him to win AND they stole the election now, there's no way in heck that they aren't going to continue to steal elections, rig the courts, voting machines, etc. He will be 78 years old. Who know what his health is going to be like and who knows if he's even going to want to run -- that's just pure wishful thinking.
I think that the GOP is going to dissolve completely due to them not winning seats. The ONLY remedy is to overthrow the leftist/globalist regime. They are huge, have subversive groups on their side and have been organizing for the demise of this Republic for a very long time.
There is absolutely no argument in my mind that Trump was able to connect with his base in unprecedented numbers. While I fully agree with the emotion and sentiment of continuing the Trump phenomena; we also have to take a really good look at the situation that we are in. We are NOT going to win at the ballot box. Thinking that we are going to have another election in 2024 is just not going to happen; not as we have known the electoral process in the past. That is done and over with and the SCOTUS will never rule in a Republican's favor as the courts will be stacked and overwhelmingly liberal.
We have to beat them at their game.We have to figure out how to do so and how to move forward. I don't know if that is possible.
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If the Dems win in Georgia and sweep the senate seats, the republic that we know is dead. Not dying, DEAD! There will be no coming back without a violent revolution that results in millions dead.
If the Republicans hold on to one of the two seats, the republic will be on life support. I say that because the Dems had an amazing success and did it by cheating widely, and no one is standing up to them. Each election cycle their process will become more refined, and eventually, there will be nothing one can do to defeat them from their chicanery, short of revolution.
And there will be no revolution without people starving to death. Otherwise, they will not leave the comfort of their couches.
As of the most recent Trafalgar poll, the Dems are up with both senate seat races. If America does not revolt with a French style uprising, then this nation becomes a one political party operation. The Republicans will not matter for a pile of manure. Not even Trump would revive the party.
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@Smokin Joe
If indeed they take the Georgia Senators, history will NOT be kind toward the 'Radical Conservative extremist/racist Trump Supporter'.
I believe THAT is the reason so many Senate Republicans and Reps are reluctant to become "Spartacus!"
They're betting that 'Trumpism' was just an earthquake whose dust has settled.
History will be what the victors in this write. It isn't over until it is over.
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The irony here is this would be more true if the state and federal level Republicans back on Nov 4th had united and fought tooth and nail for the President against the steal. Even if they were unsuccessful they could have keep millions in the GOP fold. But by sitting on their hands for a month and throwing the baby out with the bathwater now the GOP will lose tens and tens of millions ---- and guess whose open arms they're going to jump into. The GOP's wishful thinking will end up making he who they will not name again even stronger a political player than he is now. 888blackhat
999wine Happy New Year, @DCPatriot
Since the days of GHWB, the tone deafness of the GOP has stood out for me. When, during the oil bust of the mid 80s, I wrote the POTUS and my congresscritters sending them a white paper in which I outlined the impact of the bottom dropping out in oil prices, not only on the local level, but right up to the effect on petroleum exploration and the industry as a whole, with reference to how that affected both energy security and national security. I advocated a sliding scale tariff on foreign crude oil which would sustain exploration below a specific price point and fade out above the then not so astronomical price of $20/barrel, enough to keep the domestic industry going, but not enough of a support to negatively impact the consumer.
For my troubles, I got back a form letter, thanking me for my concerns about farm policy (at least someone read the zip code).
I have noted this on an ongoing basis, with the failure of the GOP to do anything other than merge left in pursuit of the "moderate" vote, steadily abandoning the Conservative and Constitutionalist voters while chasing the borderline liberals.
When the TEA party raised its objections and put forth candidates, lip service was paid to the ideas, and the freshman class that year was heavily reliant on the support of that group of "far right" Republicans. No doubt, the County Club faction seriously hoped that was another flash in the pan, and promptly ignored that voice. A large number of those elected thus forgot their backers, some even before they were sworn in, and the GOP went back to bid'ness as usual.
For the Country Club, despite its losses with the less than inspiring candidacies of McCain (who would have done even worse, imho without Sarah Palin, even while he was stabbing her in the back on the campaign trail) and Romney, an east coast liberal turned rino candidate, the shocker was the support Trump, an outsider who didn't play like one of the good ol' boys, received from the public. I honestly beleive that, instead of looking at those increasingly populist trends, seeking a voice, no matter how rough, that spoke what American conservatives and ordinary folks are thinking.
Well, damnit, that is an uncomfortable proposition for those who deem themselves our "ruling class", because it portends public involvement and concern in what the government is doing that the GOP is not prepared to deal with, nor cater to.
The idea that the Democrats broke the rules to defeat Trump portends less of a threat than the rooting out of the perfidy of the GOP and others in the entire process. They would have been more comfortable with Hillary as POTUS, because their usual pay for play and baksheesh harvesting operations would have just kept plugging along, the voters be damned. They are hoping for more sweetheart deals with A President Biden, because they know the corrupt former senator will do nothing to upset that applecart. But they underestimate the Democrats, who once the electoral process is completely corrupted, will not hesitate to make ours a one party government, and as totalitarian as any in history.
Their apple cart is going to be not just upset, but stolen or demolished by the very devils they've sold their souls to, but for now, if they play nice and pretend to be the "opposition" they will be tolerated while they line their nests with lobbyist money, and whatever other perks and bennies they can while not having to abide by the laws the rest of us must.
The Democrat candidates in Georgia are to the left of the Squad. Failure to ensure that those elections are not stolen is essential to stopping the complete Socialist victory in the US, if the election of Biden can not be stopped. But the GOP is being largely mute about the theft of the election because they are uncomfortable with Trump.
Underestimating the popularity of Trump, but even more, the idea of a POTUS who actually appears to give a damn about the American people, which has, incidentally, reflected badly on the tone deafness of the GOP and those in the Party (for the most part) who occupy elected offices, the continued absence of the voices of those same elected officials in objection to what is obvious fraud only enrages the voters who have heretofore supported the GOP.
In that continued absence, expect the voters to look elsewhere for satisfaction.