A third party would guarantee Democrat rule for a generation!
What needs to happen is the completion of the conservative takeover of the Republican party already well underway!
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Right on. Third parties fail, and only ensure the success of their worst enemies. Kick the Progressives out, along with their enablers and consultants.
A third party would guarantee Democrat rule for a generation!
What needs to happen is the completion of the conservative takeover of the Republican party already well underway!
I'm pretty sure that's what they said about Republicans in the Whig Party back in the day. The GOP became Dims Lite with the advent of Ironside in '32. Don't believe me? Look at your Presidential nominees. Wilkie, Dewey, Ike, Milhouse, Goldwater [knifed in the back by Rockerfeller and the GOPe], Jerry Ford , Reagan [the only exception], H.W Bush, Dole, 'W' , McLame and Romney.
"Already underway"? Seen the knives out for Cruz and Lee? Looks like the Roman Senate, @ March 15th, 44BC. Me, I'm 67. I'm not going to be here to see this takeover. And I don't think kids born today will, either. Leave the GOPe now, watch it merge with it's natural herd [Jackasses], and build on the rest. 'Cause even if you take over, the GOPe is NEVER going to vote for you. Too many oarts of our natural base give them aggita. :shrug:
Yeah. Start kicking people out of the Republican Party.
THAT will work!! LOL!!
Yes, I think it will. The Progressives and the collectivist enablers need to go. I really don't care how - their ideology is the poison destroying my country.
The GOP is either a conservative, free-market individualist party, or it is nothing. America doesn't need or deserve two Progressive parties as it has long been on the verge of obtaining.
If you want to attract new converts to your cause, you have to preach what you believe to be the truth, and truly believe it.
So yes: let's kick out our latter-day Rockefellers and Romneys (George, that is). They will never, ever, ever stand up to the Marxist revolutionaries and their enablers who now control the Democrat party. They don't think it's worth fighting over, or for.
They don't think anything is worth fighting for. Except their own jobs, of course.
So let them walk. Or boot 'em.
Just how do you propose to do that since, last I looked, you're not in charge?
I am not sure this is fair, Andy58-in-nh; stand for nothing, win nothing.
I feel they do stand for something: "Me too! Me too! Me too!"
There is a rather sizable group of people who used to send money to the GOP committees (e.g. - NRSC, RNC) and/or PAC's every year. We have stopped. Cold.
They keep mailing fundraising letters, and they keep coming back with $0 donations and blunt messages written in the margins: stand for nothing, get nothing.
We are sending our money and donating our support to individual candidates who reflect our values and our beliefs. The Surrender Party establishment and its consultants know it, and they are scared.
They had better figure it out, and soon: stand for nothing, win nothing.
Fine. Don't send money. The Supreme Court is on the verge of approving unlimited donations by individuals to organizations like the RNC.
It appears to me you're not kicking anybody out of anything; rather, you're hoping your donations are missed.
What about those who stand for something, and win nothing?
No one is giving the RNC any money, whether such donations are legally unlimited or not.
We're not going to work the phones or knock on doors any more. I know dozens of people who have done this every election year (like me) and we are agreed - no more.
Yeah. Start kicking people out of the Republican Party.
THAT will work!! LOL!!
And no good ever comes from compromising with evil.
I was getting up to 15 calls a day from republicans asking for donations. They are finally slowing down. I guess they got the hint. I have friends who voted for Obama the first time, Romney the second time, and now, they support Cruz, Lee, and Rand. Things are changing, and not always for the worst.
No one is giving the RNC any money, whether such donations are legally unlimited or not.
We're not going to work the phones or knock on doors any more. I know dozens of people who have done this every election year (like me) and we are agreed - no more.
Many of us have already re-registered as Independents.
We're not going to enable people who once in office abandon all pretense of principle, and then vote themselves exemptions from the shit they dump on the rest of us.
Try winning elections without ground troops and see where that gets you. Let Karl Rove make your campaign canvass calls and have Steve Schmidt go knock on doors.
Or... GOP: you can grow some f***ing balls and stand up to punks like Obama and call them out for what they are: radical Marxist revolutionaries who are trying to remake America by means with which no one who still cares about freedom must ever compromise.
If there had been no slowdown, do you know what we'd be talking about now? Obama's scandals? The problems with ObamaCare? Bull Crap. The news media would continue to bury any narrative not favorable to Obama. We'd be talking about how unfair the sequester is. By how much to increase federal spending this year. How much in new taxes are going to be required, and how the rich still aren't paying their fair share. Same-o same-o.
Because that's how Progressives win - by controlling the social institutions and the dialogue and also, by using their adversaries' own virtue against them - compromise is gooooood. It's what reasonable people do.... Unless you're one of those Anarchist Tea Partiers....
But Progressives are not reasonable, or good.
And no good ever comes from compromising with evil.
People are not going to follow a scold. They never have and they never will.
Our money is small potatoes, however the big money is holding out on the GOP. It's angry that Rove blew a half billion of their dollars last year for nothing.
Name a bigger "scold" than Barack Obama. Okay: Michael Bloomberg. Both Progressives. Both interminable asses in love with themselves.
People follow Obama because he promises them free stuff, provided at others' expense.
Reagan appealed to people of good character by sharing their decency and love of country. Obama appeals to people of poor character by manipulating their envy and resentments.
Success in politics is not about how you make people feel. It's about who you choose to appeal to, and how well you appeal to their essential nature.
If you think honest, hard-working people who desire liberty, limited government and free enterprise are a "narrow" American constituency, you don't live anywhere near me.
We don't want or need big government. We want people willing to defend the Constitution, as unpopular as it is today in Washington, DC.
What evidence do you have of that, or are you just making stuff up?
Of course never fear... McConnell's wife is now over on K-Street raising money for his Kentucky race... which is the biggest problem in DC politics today and why I detest the 17th amendment!
A third party would guarantee Democrat rule for a generation!
What needs to happen is the completion of the conservative takeover of the Republican party already well underway!
The "GOP elite" branch of the Republican party isn't going anywhere voluntarily. There's too much money and established power backing them. But more importantly, their "backs" are covered by the democrats AND the "mainstream media".
Look at it this way. If you're a 'rat politician like Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi, who better to have around than guys like Mitch McConnell, John McCain, Lindsey Graham and John Boehner to serve as your personal knock-down clowns?
So you fight against them in public "for show", but you sure as heck don't want 'em actually goin' anywhere!
No one is giving the RNC any money, whether such donations are legally unlimited or not.
We're not going to work the phones or knock on doors any more. I know dozens of people who have done this every election year (like me) and we are agreed - no more.
Many of us have already re-registered as Independents.
RNC OUTRAISES DNC BY $2 MILLION: The Republican National Committee has posted another month of strong fundraising, besting its Democratic counterpart by about $2 million. The RNC raised $5.9 million in July, against the $3.8 million posted by the Democratic National Committee. The RNC had $12.3 million cash on hand at the end of July. The DNC has $4.1 million cash on hand but an $18 million debt hole left to work out of. “There’s great energy in the Republican Party, and we stand united behind the cause of building a permanent, nationwide campaign,” RNC chairman Reince Priebus said in a statement.