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State Chapters => Arizona => Topic started by: Elderberry on December 20, 2022, 01:19:42 pm
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Kari Lake
BREAKING: Our Election Case is going to trial. Katie Hobbs attempt to have our case thrown out FAILED. She will have to take the stand & testify.
Buckle up, America.
This is far from over.
https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1605036082755645440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1605036082755645440%7Ctwgr%5Ea549133fcf36cee6ef35ea3d283eef1d83be1bd1%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fbreaking-kari-lake-election-lawsuit-is-going-to-trial%2F (https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1605036082755645440?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1605036082755645440%7Ctwgr%5Ea549133fcf36cee6ef35ea3d283eef1d83be1bd1%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fcitizenfreepress.com%2Fbreaking%2Fbreaking-kari-lake-election-lawsuit-is-going-to-trial%2F)
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Arizona judge dismisses most of Kari Lake’s lawsuit challenging election results
by Zach Schonfeld - 12/19/22 10:40 PM ET
An Arizona judge has dismissed most of Kari Lake’s election lawsuit contesting the victory of her opponent, Gov.-elect Katie Hobbs (D), after Lake for weeks seized on unproven voter fraud allegations.
Lake had asked the judge to set aside Hobbs’s certified victory based on 10 counts, alleging election officials in Maricopa County — which comprises most of the state’s population — committed misconduct and tabulated hundreds of thousands of illegal ballots.
Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Peter Thompson on Monday evening dismissed eight of the 10 counts, ruling that they did not fall under the proper criteria to bring election challenges under Arizona law, even if true, so they did not merit further consideration.
But Thompson allowed a trial to move forward on two other counts that he said, if proven, could state a claim under the statute governing election challenges: alleged intentional interference by election officials affecting Maricopa County ballot printers and chain of custody violations.
more
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3781159-arizona-judge-dismisses-most-of-kari-lakes-lawsuit-challenging-election-results/
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The most important points of Kari Lake's are moving forward, despite The Hill's Rosy Scenario.
The Chain of Custody issue is extremely important because it concerns 350,000 or so problematic ballots. Whistleblowers from Runbeck have spilled the beans. That's part of the case still in play.
Hobbs and Richie are going to have to take the witness stand.
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Interesting.
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Interesting.
Agreed!
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The most important points of Kari Lake's are moving forward, despite The Hill's Rosy Scenario.
The Chain of Custody issue is extremely important because it concerns 350,000 or so problematic ballots. Whistleblowers from Runbeck have spilled the beans. That's part of the case still in play.
Hobbs and Richie are going to have to take the witness stand.
That's really the part I hoped did get litigated, because that's where the issue lies IMO.
The printer thing won't be easy to prove without some very damning evidence.
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That's really the part I hoped did get litigated, because that's where the issue lies IMO.
The printer thing won't be easy to prove without some very damning evidence.
The problems with the printers is also still in play. I think they are going to find an IT guy who will testify there was network chicanery concerning the printers. That's bad on more than one level. 1) Printers were set to cause the failures, and 2) it was done remotely using the internet.
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The most important points of Kari Lake's are moving forward, despite The Hill's Rosy Scenario.
The Chain of Custody issue is extremely important because it concerns 350,000 or so problematic ballots. Whistleblowers from Runbeck have spilled the beans. That's part of the case still in play.
Hobbs and Richie are going to have to take the witness stand.
*please* *please* *please*
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The problems with the printers is also still in play. I think they are going to find an IT guy who will testify there was network chicanery concerning the printers. That's bad on more than one level. 1) Printers were set to cause the failures, and 2) it was done remotely using the internet.
:thumbsup:
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The problems with the printers is also still in play. I think they are going to find an IT guy who will testify there was network chicanery concerning the printers. That's bad on more than one level. 1) Printers were set to cause the failures, and 2) it was done remotely using the internet.
Do they get to do additional discovery on this for the trial?
Surely that's the kind of thing that should be tracked in the system logs.
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Do they get to do additional discovery on this for the trial?
Surely that's the kind of thing that should be tracked in the system logs.
In 2020, those logs were buried by a "Special Master" who was in the pocket of a MC Supervisor (Hickman).
I don't know about Discovery, because this trial starts in the next week or so.
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BOOM!!!
Arizona AG candidate Hamadeh's election challenge will proceed to trial (https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/arizona-ag-candidate-hamadehs-election-challenge-will-proceed-trial?utm_source=breaking&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter)
Hamadeh previously filed a challenge, though a judge dismissed it as premature since Arizona law requires that the state certify an election and declare a winner before a candidate can challenge the outcome.
Arizona Republican Attorney General candidate Abe Hamadeh's election challenge will proceed to trial, after an Arizona judge denied Democratic Attorney General-elect Kris Mayes' motion for dismissal.
In the Tuesday ruling, Mohave County Superior Court Judge Lee F. Jantzen did dismiss five of Hamadeh's counts, but allowed his other claims to proceed to an evidentiary hearing scheduled for Dec. 23. Presently Hamadeh trails Mayes by 511 votes...
Excerpt: Rest at headline link.
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Let's hope the Democrats who committed felonies in the election go to prison.
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Judge Orders 2-Day Trial in Kari Lake Election Lawsuit
Truth Press
~4 minutes
Arizona Republican gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake’s lawsuit against Maricopa County will go to trial, a judge ruled late Monday.
Lake filed the lawsuit December 9, alleging that “hundreds of thousands of illegal ballots infected” the Nov. 8 election and led to Hobbs being declared the winner, and “contains more than 270 exhibits of evidence.” Lake’s suit also relies on expert witness testimony.
We have 270 exhibits of evidence
Our whistleblowers are people who were intimately involved in the process
Every one of them is willing to speak to these facts under the penalty of perjury
We have the facts, we have the law, & we have precedent on our side
We also have faith.
— Kari Lake War Room (@KariLakeWarRoom) December 19, 2022
Last week Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Peter Thompson agreed to allow Lake’s legal team to “inspect a small number of printed and early ballots from the election, including 50 that were marked ‘spoiled’ on Election Day.” That inspection has not occurred yet; it is scheduled to begin Tuesday, December 20.
Then, after a hearing Monday:
…Thompson tossed eight of the claims in Lake’s lawsuit, but allowed two to remain that alleged an intentional plot by officials to manipulate the election in favor of Lake’s Democratic opponent, Secretary of State Katie Hobbs. In two separate orders, he ruled that a two-day trial will take place before Jan. 2, and that Hobbs and County Recorder Stephen Richer would be required to testify as Lake wished.
The ruling stated that Lake has “alleged intentional misconduct sufficient to affect the outcome of the election and thus has stated an issue of fact that requires going beyond the pleadings,” and that at trial Lake must show that the county’s printer malfunctions were intentional and designed to affect the election results, and that the actions “did actually affect the outcome.”
While Hobbs’ attorneys argued that “Lake’s case should be thrown out because it doesn’t adhere to state standards for a valid election complaint” and asked for sanctions against Lake and her attorneys:
Kurt Olsen, one of Lake’s attorneys, meanwhile portrayed the lawsuit as an expose of systemic problems, failures and possible illegal acts by election officials that led to “massive failure” at the polling stations and “tens of thousands” of disenfranchised voters.
Lake’s attorneys for the suit include Bryan Blehm, who was a lawyer for Cyber Ninjas, the contractor hired by the state Senate for its review of the 2020 election, and Olsen, a Washington, D.C., lawyer who recently was ordered to pay sanctions in a federal suit brought by Lake and Finchem that a judge said contained frivolous and baseless claims.
Olsen, who spoke after the county lawyers, said the judge should put stock in the affidavit of “top cyber expert” Clay Parikh, whose analysis concluded that the county’s “system-wide” failures could only be explained by intentional manipulation of county officials. An analysis “based on science” also showed that 15,000 to 29,000 votes were disenfranchised, Olsen said. He also claimed the county mysteriously “found” 25,000 “extra voters” two days after the polls closed.
Lake will update the crowd at Turning Point USA’s AMFEST in Phoenix Tuesday, she announced.
I will be taking the stage tomorrow at #AmFest2022 to update America on our huge win in Court today. I promise you — this is one speech you do not want to miss. BE THERE.
— Kari Lake (@KariLake) December 20, 2022
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Hoping and praying for a positive outcome!! :patriot: :patriot: :patriot:
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Merged.
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https://twitter.com/AZGOP/status/1605607276005318665
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https://twitter.com/KariLakeWarRoom/status/1605674392238710784
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https://twitter.com/KariLakeWarRoom/status/1605627603980689409
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Cybersecurity expert in Lake trial: Ballot printers must have been intentionally tampered with
Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer sought to dismiss a subpoena requiring his testimony at the trial, but the judge denied the motion.
By Natalia Mittelstadt
Updated: December 21, 2022 - 2:22pm
A cybersecurity expert in the civil trial of Kari Lake's lawsuit testified Wednesday that the issues experienced with ballot printers at Maricopa County vote centers on Election Day had to have been intentionally caused by changing the printer settings.
The trial began Wednesday with the testimonies of Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer, Maricopa County Director of Elections Scott Jarrett, and cybersecurity expert Clay Parikh.
Parikh, who has previously worked with election systems, testified that the settings on either the printers or the laptops at the vote centers that sent the ballot print jobs to the printers had to have been intentionally changed to cause the printer errors that were experienced on Election Day.
Jarrett explained under direct examination that the vote center wait times were based on prior elections, and calculated that voters would wait in line for about 30 minutes on average. He said that wait times included how long it would take voters to check in at the vote centers. The election director said under cross-examination by defendants' counsel that the average wait time for all voters was less than few minutes on Election Day.
When asked by Lake's legal counsel about reports from poll workers that wait times were over two hours, Jarrett said that those workers could make estimates, but unless they were timing voters, it was an assumption.
Jarrett also testified that there was no 19-inch ballot design for the 2022 general election, only the August primary, so ballot printers couldn't have printed the wrong ballot.
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https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/kari-lake-lawsuit-maricopa-county-put-trial-after-decade-election-issues
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This morning was interesting. The "Print on Demand" ballots were designed for 19" pages, but were printed on 20" paper. These ballots were unreadable by the Tabulators. Somebody made a change to the printers between the election-eve tests that passed, and actual election day. I now understand the printing problem!
Then there's the Ballot Chain of Custody issue. Way broken for hundreds of thousand ballots!
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@Bigun
Yes, they went after not counting at the state mandated voting center!
My gut says that's where the meat is.
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This morning was interesting. The "Print on Demand" ballots were designed for 19" pages, but were printed on 20" paper. These ballots were unreadable by the Tabulators. Somebody made a change to the printers between the election-eve tests that passed, and actual election day. I now understand the printing problem!
Then there's the Ballot Chain of Custody issue. Way broken for hundreds of thousand ballots!
Wondered if they used the same sized ballots for the test and the actual.
All that sounds very fishy.
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Plaintiff's case is today, so I guess the Defense has all day tomorrow to shoot at this.
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Wondered if they used the same sized ballots for the test and the actual.
All that sounds very fishy.
I'm betting all the ballots they used for the night-before Tests were probably just fine. I think alterations to the printers happened between the tests and the opening of the Poll the next morning. I'm equally sure they set them back after the polls closed. Dem politicians may be dumb as stones about this, but the IT people know to cover their tracks.
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@Bigun
Yes, they went after not counting at the state mandated voting center!
My gut says that's where the meat is.
:yowsa: It is a clear violation of the law @Free Vulcan
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Question: MSM is expecting this to just disappear... what happens if it doesn't?
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BREAKING: Kari Lake Trial Reveals 42.5% of Randomly Examined Ballots Were Improper
By Collin Rugg December 21, 2022
According to Republican governor candidate Kari Lake’s legal team, 42.5% of examined ballots in Maricopa County for the 2022 governor’s race were illegitimate. Lake’s trial began on Wednesday were she is attempting to prove that wide scale fraud took place in Maricopa County on election day.
The Lake War Room tweeted on Wednesday that 48 of the 113 ballots that were reviewed during examination were “19-inch ballots produced on 20-inch paper,”
“This one-inch discrepancy cause chaos on Election day. Causing the mass rejection of these votes as they were attempted to be read through the tabulators,” the Kari Lake War Room tweeted.
https://twitter.com/KariLakeWarRoom/status/1605628638870745090
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https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/breaking-kari-lake-trial-reveals-42-5-of-randomly-examined-ballots-were-improper/
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Question: MSM is expecting this to just disappear... what happens if it doesn't?
:0001: :crossed:
Hope we can at least get far enough to peer into their black box, a fool's hope more will come out of it.
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The problems with the printers is also still in play. I think they are going to find an IT guy who will testify there was network chicanery concerning the printers. That's bad on more than one level. 1) Printers were set to cause the failures, and 2) it was done remotely using the internet.
And why do you think that ?
I have not read anything to that effect.
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This morning was interesting. The "Print on Demand" ballots were designed for 19" pages, but were printed on 20" paper. These ballots were unreadable by the Tabulators. Somebody made a change to the printers between the election-eve tests that passed, and actual election day. I now understand the printing problem!
Then there's the Ballot Chain of Custody issue. Way broken for hundreds of thousand ballots!
You have to wonder what moron does thiis without thinking about it.
At a time when everything has to be perfect, you go and shoot yourself in both feed as well as both cheeks with this kind of stupidity.
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This morning was interesting. The "Print on Demand" ballots were designed for 19" pages, but were printed on 20" paper. These ballots were unreadable by the Tabulators. Somebody made a change to the printers between the election-eve tests that passed, and actual election day. I now understand the printing problem!
Yep. As someone who used to write programs to produce UB92 billing forms for Medicare, I can testify that being off on even one or two characters can make the entire thing unreadable.
Do we know if the 20" paper was used only (or predominantly) at the Republican-leaning districts?
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https://twitter.com/KariLakeWarRoom/status/1605617463697162240
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https://twitter.com/KariLakeWarRoom/status/1605703627896524801
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Yep. As someone who used to write programs to produce UB92 billing forms for Medicare, I can testify that being off on even one or two characters can make the entire thing unreadable.
Do we know if the 20" paper was used only (or predominantly) at the Republican-leaning districts?
At a rate of about 70% in the affected Precincts. There some pre-printed ballots available for absentee voters who showed up on Election Day to vote.
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https://twitter.com/KariLakeWarRoom/status/1605617463697162240
My County has a vendor. I think we are being wayyy overcharged.
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Kari Lake Expert Witness: Missized Ballots That Caused Election Day Chaos Could Not Have Been An Accident (https://www.zerohedge.com/political/kari-lake-expert-witness-missized-ballots-caused-election-day-chaos-could-not-have-been)
by Tyler Durden
Thursday, Dec 22, 2022 - 10:14 AM
Authored by Debra Heine via AmGreatness.com,
On the first day of trial in Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake’s election challenge Wednesday, her lawyers focused on the Maricopa County election equipment failures that caused chaos on Election Day and disenfranchised voters. Superior Court Judge Peter Thompson previously dismissed eight out of the ten claims Lake made in her lawsuit. In his order allowing Lake’s case to go forward, Thompson said that she would have to prove that misconduct occurred, and that it resulted in “identifiable lost votes” affecting the outcome of the election.
Lake’s lawyers attempted to make that case with their bombshell revelation that a review of random ballots found that 48 out of 113 (42.5 percent) were “19-inch ballots produced on 20-inch paper,” causing them to be rejected.
Clay Parikh, a witness who examined the defective ballots on behalf of the Lake campaign, said someone must have changed the printer configurations.
“These are not a bump against the printer and the settings change,” he explained. “There are security configurations. I’ve reviewed the evidence, and the printers are configured via script, which by any large organization that has to do multiple systems is the standard.”
“It takes away the human error of somebody miscoding in the instructions on the printer,” Parikh said.
When asked whether it could not have happened by accident, Parikh said “no.”
EXCERPT; rest at link above
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https://twitter.com/KariLakeWarRoom/status/1606039669174460417
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https://twitter.com/KariLakeWarRoom/status/1606010233406386178
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https://twitter.com/KariLakeWarRoom/status/1605999762322309122
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https://twitter.com/KariLake/status/1606043498305576960
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https://twitter.com/AbrahamHamadeh/status/1606311277260787713
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https://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1605623715412181003
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Does anyone think that even 1% of Democrats care if other Democrats cheated and conspired to commit felonies?
Shirley you jest. This is the party of partial birth abortions, LGBTQ insanity, socialist professors, dumbing down education for more money, and Trump Derangement. They don't know which pot to piss on.
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Does anyone think that even 1% of Democrats care if other Democrats cheated and conspired to commit felonies?
Shirley you jest. This is the party of partial birth abortions, LGBTQ insanity, socialist professors, dumbing down education for more money, and Trump Derangement. They don't know which pot to piss on.
I agree. Dems know there is a lot of cheating and they are OK with it.
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Does anyone think that even 1% of Democrats care if other Democrats cheated and conspired to commit felonies?
Shirley you jest. This is the party of partial birth abortions, LGBTQ insanity, socialist professors, dumbing down education for more money, and Trump Derangement. They don't know which pot to piss on.
Communists (AKA Democrats) care about one thing only, power, and they will do whatever it takes to get and keep it.
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Ariz. Election: Katie Hobbs Just Weaseled Out of Her Testimony - She Won't Even Set Foot in Court
Randy DeSoto, The Western Journal By Randy DeSoto, The Western Journal
Published December 21, 2022 at 1:35pm
Democratic Arizona Gov.-elect Katie Hobbs seems to have an aversion to speaking in public — certainly so when Republican gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake is in any way involved.
Hobbs’ attorneys filed a motion Monday to quash a subpoena by Lake’s legal team to have her testify in court in the GOP candidate’s election challenge trial, which began Wednesday.
Hobbs is, after all, in charge of overseeing elections as Arizona’s secretary of state.
State Superior Court Judge Peter Thompson ruled against Hobbs’ motion to quash Monday night, writing in his order the issues at hand concern an “activity wholly within her wheelhouse: the conduct of elections.”
Nonetheless, Hobbs’ attorneys took one more bite at the apple in a filing just after 9 p.m. Monday night, pointing out that Thompson ruled that two counts in Lake’s lawsuit would be going to trial and neither directly involved their client.
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https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/ariz-election-katie-hobbs-just-weaseled-testimony-wont-even-set-foot-court
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From the article:
“And to the extent Plaintiff has any questions that are relevant (and there is simply no way she could), Kori Lorick, State Elections Director, has already been disclosed as a potential witness who ‘may testify regarding the Arizona Secretary of State’s election-related duties and responsibilities, or other matters related to the Secretary of State’s Office relevant to this case,'” Hobbs’ attorneys added.
https://twitter.com/DecentFiJC/status/1596150832755404801
This entire thread is filled with great info you won't see in the press!
@Cyber Liberty
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Katie Hobbs is a passive-aggressive Marie Antoinette. She thinks debating lowly deplorables and testifying in court is beneath her. You do not speak to her, and you will only speak when spoken to, but you do not speak directly to her.
If I recall, wasn't she in the Maricopa counting center election night? That gives every reason for her to be subpoenaed. But I'm guessing she doesn't know anything. Give Hobbs' work history of absenteeism, my guess is Lorick is the power behind the throne, and knows where the bodies are buried.
I have a feeling agents like Lorick have been seeded in election supervisor positions all over the country, and directed from DC. That may be the really big scandal here.
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Communists (AKA Democrats) care about one thing only, power, and they will do whatever it takes to get and keep it.
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So, the Judge found the election perfect and ruled against Kari Lake. Time to roll up the Castle drawbridge.
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You can't have a State Commissioner of Elections -- running, overseeing, and directing, her own election of herself. That is the very definition of banana republic type election corruption. It is a definition of 'insanity'.
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So, the Judge found the election perfect and ruled against Kari Lake. Time to roll up the Castle drawbridge.
I seen where he moved the goal posts then made a Papal proclamation.
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So, the Judge found the election perfect and ruled against Kari Lake. Time to roll up the Castle drawbridge.
Link please!
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Link please!
BREAKING: Arizona judge rejects Kari Lake's election lawsuit, Lake to appeal
"My Election Case provided the world with evidence that proves our elections are run outside of the law. This Judge did not rule in our favor. However, for the sake of restoring faith and honesty in our elections, I will appeal his ruling," Lake tweeted Saturday
On Saturday, Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake lost her post-midterm election lawsuit against Democrat Governor-elect Katie Hobbs, which alleged Arizona voters were disenfranchised after actions by Hobbs and Maricopa County election officials.
According to local news, in dismissing Lake's case Superior Court Judge Peter Thompson paved the way for Katie Hobbs to be Arizona's next governor, but gave "both sides until Monday for Lake's side to appeal or for Hobbs' side to seek sanctions." Lake tweeted, "My Election Case provided the world with evidence that proves our elections are run outside of the law. This Judge did not rule in our favor. However, for the sake of restoring faith and honesty in our elections, I will appeal his ruling."
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-arizona-judge-rejects-kari-lakes-election-lawsuit-lake-to-appeal?utm_campaign=64501
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Question: MSM is expecting this to just disappear... what happens if it doesn't?
What makes you think they are expecting it to disappear ?
They certainly are not giving it much air time.
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From what I can read, the judge took word of the Maricopa county official that testified, even though he admitted to not following state law and even blaming election day voters for the problems.
But then he said that in the secret and illegal off-site counting center, away from any oversight or transparency, they followed all the laws, then proceeded to snow them under with supposed details of how they followed the law.
Sounds like that's all the judge needed to hear to wash his hands of it.
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From what I can read, the judge took word of the Maricopa county official that testified, even though he admitted to not following state law and even blaming election day voters for the problems.
But then he said that in the secret and illegal off-site counting center, away from any oversight or transparency, they followed all the laws, then proceeded to snow them under with supposed details of how they followed the law.
Sounds like that's all the judge needed to hear to wash his hands of it.
Is of the off-site counting center illegal ? Really ?
If so, how does this judge justify saying you can do something ILLEGAL....the right way ?????
Un-freaking-believable.
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Is of the off-site counting center illegal ? Really ?
If so, how does this judge justify saying you can do something ILLEGAL....the right way ?????
Un-freaking-believable.
That's the issue with challenging elections, is the catch-22. They create an opaque, if not downright illegal operation to count votes, then demand proof they cheated even though they won't let you a mile near it.
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Is of the off-site counting center illegal ? Really ?
If so, how does this judge justify saying you can do something ILLEGAL....the right way ?????
Un-freaking-believable.
Exactly how things work in banana republics.
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That's the issue with challenging elections, is the catch-22. They create an opaque, if not downright illegal operation to count votes, then demand proof they cheated even though they won't let you a mile near it.
How does the judge let this fly ?
How can any election official, with a working brain, allow this to happen ?
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How does the judge let this fly ?
How can any election official, with a working brain, allow this to happen ?
Somebody got to him or his family.
Drawbridge Up.
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Somebody got to him or his family.
Drawbridge Up.
Given the way former Federal police and intelligence operatives are seeding themselves among local and state election agencies, it doesn't surprise me.
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What makes you think they are expecting it to disappear ?
They certainly are not giving it much air time.
And boom it disappeared.
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And boom it disappeared.
Just like that. All of the barriers to Dem cheating are now gone. Poof!
And the Republican Party is in on it. We're done. May as well just switch off all Media, because they are now the Enemy.
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How does the judge let this fly ?
How can any election official, with a working brain, allow this to happen ?
Somebody left a "need I remind you how you got this job" note on his desk.
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A spirit of lawlessness has taken hold of this country.
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Arizona Judge Rules Against Kari Lake – Multiple Simultaneous Election Errors and Mistakes, But No Irrefutable Proof of Purposeful Intent
Yes, Judge Peter A Thompson has ruled from the Maricopa Superior Court of Arizona, that success for Mrs. Kari Lake’s lawsuit was contingent upon her being able to prove malicious intent on behalf of the country election officials. [Read 10-page Ruling HERE]
The Maricopa County officials have denied malicious intent and are afforded great benefit of doubt; after all, the election result was duly certified.
Therefore, absent direct evidence of corrupt intent by the election officials, which would require them to make admissions in court, any certified outcome is considered valid.
Additionally, yes there were multiple documented problems with ballots, tabulators and chain-of-custody violations; and yes, there were multiple simultaneous failures which would have impeded accurate voting by the residents of Arizona; however, the Lake campaign could not quantify to a demonstrable certainty, the exact number of votes that were impacted by the simultaneous collapse of voting systems, processes and ballot control standards.
Absent Mrs. Lakes’ ability to scientifically and empirically quantify the exact number of votes impacted, there is no basis for a judgement in favor of the plaintiff.
Lastly, the defendant has requested that Mrs. Lake be punished by the court for attempting to question the certification of the election as validated by her opponent, the court will consider what punishment to impose and proclaim the sanctions after Monday, December 26, 2022.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/12/24/arizona-judge-rules-against-kari-lake-multiple-simultaneous-election-errors-and-mistakes-but-no-irrefutable-proof-of-purposeful-intent/
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Arizona Judge Rules Against Kari Lake – Multiple Simultaneous Election Errors and Mistakes, But No Irrefutable Proof of Purposeful Intent
Yes, Judge Peter A Thompson has ruled from the Maricopa Superior Court of Arizona, that success for Mrs. Kari Lake’s lawsuit was contingent upon her being able to prove malicious intent on behalf of the country election officials. [Read 10-page Ruling HERE]
The Maricopa County officials have denied malicious intent and are afforded great benefit of doubt; after all, the election result was duly certified.
Therefore, absent direct evidence of corrupt intent by the election officials, which would require them to make admissions in court, any certified outcome is considered valid.
Additionally, yes there were multiple documented problems with ballots, tabulators and chain-of-custody violations; and yes, there were multiple simultaneous failures which would have impeded accurate voting by the residents of Arizona; however, the Lake campaign could not quantify to a demonstrable certainty, the exact number of votes that were impacted by the simultaneous collapse of voting systems, processes and ballot control standards.
Absent Mrs. Lakes’ ability to scientifically and empirically quantify the exact number of votes impacted, there is no basis for a judgement in favor of the plaintiff.
Lastly, the defendant has requested that Mrs. Lake be punished by the court for attempting to question the certification of the election as validated by her opponent, the court will consider what punishment to impose and proclaim the sanctions after Monday, December 26, 2022.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2022/12/24/arizona-judge-rules-against-kari-lake-multiple-simultaneous-election-errors-and-mistakes-but-no-irrefutable-proof-of-purposeful-intent/
It's over. Doesn't matter what our side says, the Democrats now get their way unimpeded.
The AZ Supreme Court will not fix this, it was our only chance.
It's everyone for themselves now, it's Jungle Law.
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Can't someone simply sue them for not following the law? It is only when they sue for fraud that these cases get tossed.
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Can't someone simply sue them for not following the law? It is only when they sue for fraud that these cases get tossed.
Nope. The New Rule is in effect: Dems get whatever they want, because blatant cheating is the new normal, and the Republicans lacking a dick won't do a damned thing to stop them.
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It's over. Doesn't matter what our side says, the Democrats now get their way unimpeded.
The AZ Supreme Court will not fix this, it was our only chance.
It's everyone for themselves now, it's Jungle Law.
Yes. Indeed.
I am continuing to hope and pray for a miracle.
Lord God Jesus Christ I ask and pray that you stop the evil that keeps prevailing in this country.
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Yes. Indeed.
I am continuing to hope and pray for a miracle.
Lord God Jesus Christ I ask and pray that you stop the evil that keeps prevailing in this country.
Yes, our only hope. I and the rest of the remaining humans have done our best, to no available. The Shining City on the Hill is no more.
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Can't someone simply sue them for not following the law? It is only when they sue for fraud that these cases get tossed.
They should. Maricopa openly did illegal things and alot of other shenanigans. May not help for '22, but will for '24. Litigate the crap out of them.
I wish somehow out of this would have come to a full transparent and observed recount of Maricopa and examination of the ballots first to see what was really there, rather than just try to throw it out up front.
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Time to get the recall petitions printed up.
You may not get rid of Hobbs, but you can still harass her.
So, Cyber...
... are you ready to sign on to that new Continental Congress yet...?
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Yes, our only hope. I and the rest of the remaining humans have done our best, to no available. The Shining City on the Hill is no more.
@Cyber Liberty at least you know you did your best and not many can say that. Most sit back lazily and figure that others are going to get the job done.
I sincerely hope you and Mrs. Liberty and the kitties have a wonderful Christmas.
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How does the judge let this fly ?
How can any election official, with a working brain, allow this to happen ?
It could be the Judge simply decided to punt the issue to appeal, so HE would not have to take any responsibility.
Or he could be a Liberal Democrat. Or somebody got to him by bribe or threat. Hobbs
Something screwy is going on. The Judge did NOT say that he disagrees with or disputes any of Lake's evidence and argument which is factual and unimpeachable. His ruling was that he either does not care if it was stolen, or he does not want to get involved in a political mess. His ruling was more of a recusal. Let somebody else deal with it. The Judge was afraid to deal with it. Lake's argument is True, but no proof of 'intent' is a cowardly ruling.
After all, Hobbs was already threatening anyone who would not certify her election of herself. Who knows what other threats she made to force certification. Certify me or I will get revenge is a banana republic method.
Daily Caller
EXCLUSIVE: Katie Hobbs’ Office Threatened County Board With Arrest, Indictment If They Didn’t Certify Results
Story by Arjun Singh • Dec 1
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/exclusive-katie-hobbs-office-threatened-county-board-with-arrest-indictment-if-they-didnt-certify-results/ar-AA14MQed
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Yes, our only hope. I and the rest of the remaining humans have done our best, to no available. The Shining City on the Hill is no more.
I wish I could find something in that to argue with @Cyber Liberty but I just can't. 8888crybaby :shotglass:
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Daily Caller
EXCLUSIVE: Katie Hobbs’ Office Threatened County Board With Arrest, Indictment If They Didn’t Certify Results
Story by Arjun Singh • Dec 1
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/exclusive-katie-hobbs-office-threatened-county-board-with-arrest-indictment-if-they-didnt-certify-results/ar-AA14MQed
I won't be forgetting. I live in Mohave County.
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I wish I could find something in that to argue with @Cyber Liberty but I just can't. 8888crybaby :shotglass:
:shrug:
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I won't be forgetting. I live in Mohave County.
She was openly and blatantly using her office as Secretary of State to literally strongarm, threaten, coerce, and force people to certify her. If Lake had said, "I will have you arrested. I will ruin you!" Nobody would care. Because she doesn't have the power to do that.
When the SoS says certify me or "I will arrest you. I will destroy you!" it had people pissing their pants. And rightly so. Just the threat itself is a crime, regardless of what happened in the election. In fact, it may be a Federal Crime - RICO or some such thing.
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@Cyber Liberty I know exactly how you feel right now. Illinois used to be a conservative state..then election after election the Dems started gaining power especially in the large cities and their suburbs until they took complete control.. Last year the Dems re-drew the state's political map..now we only have 2 Repub Congressman in the whole state.
Here in the middle of the state it is still conservative but we cannot match the Dem machine in the north...I keep hoping the people in No, Il will reach a point of enough is enough... :crying:
So I know what it is like to be so disappointed and depressed...my beautiful state is now a Dem hellhole waiting for a political savior to turn this state around..... :crying:
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She was openly and blatantly using her office as Secretary of State to literally strongarm, threaten, coerce, and force people to certify her. If Lake had said, "I will have you arrested. I will ruin you!" Nobody would care. Because she doesn't have the power to do that.
When the SoS says certify me or "I will arrest you. I will destroy you!" it had people pissing their pants. And rightly so. Just the threat itself is a crime, regardless of what happened in the election. In fact, it may be a Federal Crime - RICO or some such thing.
It might have been nice if they had not actually folded.
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Thank you, Friend. Talk to me.
Katie Hobbs is a passive-aggressive Marie Antoinette. She thinks debating lowly deplorables and testifying in court is beneath her. You do not speak to her, and you will only speak when spoken to, but you do not speak directly to her.
If I recall, wasn't she in the Maricopa counting center election night? That gives every reason for her to be subpoenaed. But I'm guessing she doesn't know anything. Give Hobbs' work history of absenteeism, my guess is Lorick is the power behind the throne, and knows where the bodies are buried.
I have a feeling agents like Lorick have been seeded in election supervisor positions all over the country, and directed from DC. That may be the really big scandal here.
Katie Hobbs is stupid.
Her handlers know she'd get killed in a debate or if she testified in court.
If she is sworn in, AZ will be in the hands of a group of off-screen handlers that we know little aboutl.
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Katie Hobbs is stupid.
Her handlers know she'd get killed in a debate or if she testified in court.
If she is sworn in, AZ will be in the hands of a group of off-screen handlers that we know little aboutl.
Sort of like Ducey.... :shrug:
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So, the Judge found the election perfect and ruled against Kari Lake. Time to roll up the Castle drawbridge.
Agree @Cyber Liberty
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Agree @Cyber Liberty
I never figured I'd have to do that when I bought this small Castle. :shrug:
Yet here we are....
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I talked with neighbor of mine who is a die-hard Trump supporter.
He simply asked how in the world, after 2020, this mess was allowed to happen.
I don't have a good answer for him. I wasn't here and was tied up on a great many other things.
I hope to be better informed going forward.
I also see no reason to give up.
The Arizona GOP is a mess from what I can tell. It is divided and that allows the democrats to win. Kansas was the same way....look how many democratic governors it has had since 1990 (and Bill Graves was a RINO). And it is supposed to be a killer red state.
It seems we only have one way to go....up.
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@Cyber Liberty I know exactly how you feel right now. Illinois used to be a conservative state..then election after election the Dems started gaining power especially in the large cities and their suburbs until they took complete control.. Last year the Dems re-drew the state's political map..now we only have 2 Repub Congressman in the whole state.
Here in the middle of the state it is still conservative but we cannot match the Dem machine in the north...I keep hoping the people in No, Il will reach a point of enough is enough... :crying:
So I know what it is like to be so disappointed and depressed...my beautiful state is now a Dem hellhole waiting for a political savior to turn this state around..... :crying:
The conservative message is more nuanced than the other side.
We DON'T want the government making decisions for us.
But we are also not addressing the issues.
And our history isn't so great. GWB was not a conservative and I have a hard time calling him a Republican.
When the GOP finally finds itself and messages well (not manipulate....but message), people will rally.
That isn't going to happen without a true grassroots effort.
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That isn't going to happen without a true grassroots effort.
... AND SO... We are right back to the TEA Party again.
Republican rank and file needs to quit being distracted by political messiahs and shiny sh*t, and do the hard, long, work of building an orthodoxy, drawing hard, HARD lines in the sand, and sticking to it... for generations.
That's what you DON'T get with all this populist crap.
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No more being satisfied with the candy thrown by the clown at the front of the parade...
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... AND SO... We are right back to the TEA Party again.
Republican rank and file needs to quit being distracted by political messiahs and shiny sh*t, and do the hard, long, work of building an orthodoxy, drawing hard, HARD lines in the sand, and sticking to it... for generations.
That's what you DON'T get with all this populist crap.
Agreed.
First need to clean house.....get it in order....then go to battle.
Right now, the inmates are in charge of the assylum.
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No more being satisfied with the candy thrown by the clown at the front of the parade...
Never was.
Not all that impressed with the other stuff being thrown.
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No more being satisfied with the candy thrown by the clown at the front of the parade...
Never was. It's usually a lot of the last parade's leftovers anyway...
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Never was. It's usually a lot of the last parade's leftovers anyway...
Yeah I know... But too many are too easily distracted.
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No more being satisfied with the candy thrown by the clown at the front of the parade...
Being the wrong ethnicity and sex and religious belief, I usually got what was left after the horses passed.
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Being the wrong ethnicity and sex and religious belief, I usually got what was left after the horses passed.
We all got that...it was just packaged differently.
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https://www.newsweek.com/kari-lake-rails-against-arizona-county-after-officials-admit-election-blunder-1771571
"Next time" ??????
Seriously ??????
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https://www.simpson4auditor.com/post/maricopa-county-corruption-now-it-s-your-problem-too
Wow....wasn't up on all this.
All the more reason to keep this kind of history in front of us.
Our state GOP is starting to feel like our Federal GOP.
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https://www.simpson4auditor.com/post/maricopa-county-corruption-now-it-s-your-problem-too
Wow....wasn't up on all this.
All the more reason to keep this kind of history in front of us.
Our state GOP is starting to feel like our Federal GOP.
Not exactly a shock for people who actually lived in Maricopa for a few decades. I never could get anybody to give a crap about it. Still can't.
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Can't seem to figure out what the game plan is here.
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https://www.newsweek.com/kari-lake-shares-update-election-case-appeals-court-1778648
From Newsweek:
The article is dated 2/2/2023
Kari Lake Shares Update on Election Case in Appeals Court:
Lake said the three-judge panel held a private conference on Wednesday to discuss the case and briefs, a standard procedure for any appeal.
"The panel could issue a ruling, or if they have questions, they could ask for supplemental briefing or bring in attorneys for oral argument," Lake tweeted. "Our expectation is the panel will move this case quickly. As soon as I have more information—you'll be the first to know. I will never stop fighting for you Arizona!"
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It was nice:
Newsweek reported information and some quotes from Lake.
Salon, on the other hand is attempting to smear her with speculation. I won't post the article, but it's the typical B.S.
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Thank you for all the updates @HikerGuy83