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Title: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: ABX on May 24, 2019, 09:30:16 pm
MSAGA

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Donald Trump has asserted rarely used emergency powers to sidestep congressional objections, and give the green light to an arms deal involving Saudi Arabia and the UAE....


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-saudi-arabia-deal-bombs-uae-arms-trade-congress-yemen-a8929741.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1558723707 (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-saudi-arabia-deal-bombs-uae-arms-trade-congress-yemen-a8929741.html?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1558723707)

Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: TomSea on May 24, 2019, 09:35:49 pm
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Trump to bypass Congress to sell arms to Saudi, UAE: senator
AFP

Washington (AFP) - President Donald Trump's administration is bypassing Congress to sell weapons to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, citing a threat from Iran, despite lawmakers' concerns about their possible use against civilians in Yemen, a senator said Friday.

Senator Robert Menendez, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, had used his powers to block sales of tens of thousands of precision-guided bombs to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, fearing they would contribute to the humanitarian crisis in Yemen, where the US allies are mounting an offensive.

But the administration informed lawmakers that it was going around a legally required review by Congress to approve the sales as part of a total of 22 arms transactions to Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and other nations, Menendez's office said.

Read more at: https://news.yahoo.com/trump-bypass-congress-sell-arms-saudi-uae-senator-174309978.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9uZXdzLnNlYXJjaC55YWhvby5jb20vc2VhcmNoP3A9VHJ1bXArdG8rYnlwYXNzK0NvbmdyZXNzK3RvK3NlbGwrYXJtcyt0bytTYXVkaSUyQytVQUUlM0Erc2VuYXRvciZmcj11aDNfbmV3c192ZXJ0X2dzJmZyMj1wJTNBbmV3cyUyQ20lM0FzYg&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAA3C-B9Offi714P65uM3300Gj_i4QWNoC75zQvC2lB3nyoXfLZX09WGbT_twf09BN7QmAfuKSo0986mDztk1ABDpMSrFytvfyZC93z_Hq9_ZbJ7nv93qPJdg26ZMIELSVcFn8_o_o5ZxJ5Uw81t4RN5aBfM5UgMjsUtlTAzU_iRR

I'd lean towards not selling these people these weapons. I think I saw elsewhere, the whole cost is very high, 11 billion or something.
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: Rivergirl on May 24, 2019, 09:46:05 pm
Trump's got an APP for that!
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: corbe on May 24, 2019, 09:52:29 pm
   I always thought the best strategy was to sell arms to all of them and sit back and reap the rewards of raghead self destruction, kinda like we did in the Iran/Iraq war. 
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: ABX on May 24, 2019, 10:02:49 pm
   I always thought the best strategy was to sell arms to all of them and sit back and reap the rewards of raghead self destruction, kinda like we did in the Iran/Iraq war.

They are going to do that anyway.

If you want to really change everything, arm the oppressed women, not the governments.
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: corbe on May 24, 2019, 10:08:04 pm
They are going to do that anyway.

If you want to really change everything, arm the oppressed women, not the governments.

   
(https://ritarussell.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/hell-hath-no-fury-gun-demotivational-posters-1301302305.jpg)

   Now that is a very interesting proposition @ABX
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: Mod5 on May 24, 2019, 10:23:09 pm
Topics merged.
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: libertybele on May 24, 2019, 10:26:30 pm
I'd lean towards not selling these people these weapons. I think I saw elsewhere, the whole cost is very high, 11 billion or something.

I absolutely agree with you.  No, we should not be arming them.  How is it that Trump can get his hands on 11 billion to arm people in a foreign country but can't get 11 billion to build a wall in our own country???   9999hair out0000
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: TomSea on May 24, 2019, 10:29:26 pm
Lead in headline off of the Beeb's main page said a loophole is being used:

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Mr Trump evoked a rarely used aspect of federal law to push through the $8bn (£6bn) deal, which would ordinarily need to be approved by Congress.

He did so by declaring that ongoing tensions with Iran amounted to a national emergency.

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On Friday, Secretary of State Mike Pompeo notified Congress of the administration's decision to make the sale. In a letter, widely reported in US media, he said that "Iranian malign activity" required the "immediate sale" of weapons.

"[Iran's] activity poses a fundamental threat to the stability of the Middle East and to American security at home and abroad," he wrote.

Read more at: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48404923 (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48404923)

I'm sure Pompeo and Trump have info; but I'm still not convinced, however, this is apparently, the reasoning.
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: TomSea on May 24, 2019, 10:30:07 pm
I absolutely agree with you.  No, we should not be arming them.  How is it that Trump can get his hands on 11 billion to arm people in a foreign country but can't get 11 billion to build a wall in our own country???   9999hair out0000

It's a sale. That's pretty easy to see.  How does he get his hands on that money? They are selling them.

Maybe he should contract a sale to build the wall.

Yemen really is the only major decision so far on foreign policy I think Trump is messing up on, he did err in saying we were withdrawing all of those troops from Syria but that was somewhat rectified.

Maybe he's right on Yemen but congress seem to disagree with him. It's a bit impossible to see what truly is happening there. I have some ideas on it though. Houthi rebels have indeed, fired missiles into SA that have been blocked.
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 24, 2019, 10:37:12 pm

Senator Robert Menendez, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, =ARTICLE

MENENDEZ....has been on corrupt list many time by JUDICIAL WATCH and is a pedo.  I don't care what he thinks or any DEMON-RAT.  IRAN IS THREATENING...OTHERS.  TALK TO IRAN...MENENDEZ...or JOHN KERRY= HEINZ,  Stooge...who has an islamist son- in law from Iran.   


Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: TomSea on May 24, 2019, 10:39:35 pm
Menendez was smeared by the Obama machine just the way, Kavanaugh was smeared by the Democrat machine.

That stuff isn't proven.

Menendez bucked Obama on the Cuba deal and on the Iran nuke deal. They sent out a smear machine on him, they didn't get jack on him despite a lengthy trial. Menendez was against us going into Iraq in '03. Actually, for foreign policy, he's pretty sharp.
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: TomSea on May 24, 2019, 10:43:39 pm
Senator Robert Menendez, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, =ARTICLE

MENENDEZ....has been on corrupt list many time by JUDICIAL WATCH and is a pedo.  I don't care what he thinks or any DEMON-RAT.  IRAN IS THREATENING...OTHERS.  TALK TO IRAN...MENENDEZ...or JOHN KERRY= HEINZ,  Stooge...who has an islamist son- in law from Iran.   

Talk is cheap, they haven't gotten Menendez on anything.

Menendez was against the Iran deal to begin with, that's why the Democrats have smeared him.

https://www.nj.com/politics/2015/08/njs_menendez.html (https://www.nj.com/politics/2015/08/njs_menendez.html)

He's bad on domestic but he is good on foreign, if Judicial Watch has something, they need to bring it to court, Obama went after Menendez and failed. Smear machine.

You've got nothing on Menendez in a court of law, just like they got nothing on Trump per the investigation.
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 24, 2019, 10:44:02 pm
I absolutely agree with you.  No, we should not be arming them.  How is it that Trump can get his hands on 11 billion to arm people in a foreign country but can't get 11 billion to build a wall in our own country???   9999hair out0000


Why not?  Saudi Arabia IS BUYING THOSE....not being given by president.  Saudi Arabia HAS 11 BILLION TO GIVE  TO...USA.    The WALL is being built, as we speak. 

You don't know about..."obstruct, resist"  DEMON-RATS? 
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on May 24, 2019, 10:46:33 pm
I absolutely agree with you.  No, we should not be arming them.  How is it that Trump can get his hands on 11 billion to arm people in a foreign country but can't get 11 billion to build a wall in our own country???   9999hair out0000

Because the $11B is coming from KSA, not the USA.
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: TomSea on May 24, 2019, 10:53:18 pm
Because the $11B is coming from KSA, not the USA.

Yes, that's what I was trying to say.
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: rustynail on May 24, 2019, 11:11:23 pm
Only a Crazy Man would do this.  A 25!
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: Sanguine on May 24, 2019, 11:19:01 pm
Senator Robert Menendez, the top Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, =ARTICLE

MENENDEZ....has been on corrupt list many time by JUDICIAL WATCH and is a pedo.  I don't care what he thinks or any DEMON-RAT.  IRAN IS THREATENING...OTHERS.  TALK TO IRAN...MENENDEZ...or JOHN KERRY= HEINZ,  Stooge...who has an islamist son- in law from Iran.   

Don't do that.  We're supposed to be the good guys, not the ones who spread unproven and incendiary smears.  That's what the left does. 

Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: libertybele on May 24, 2019, 11:33:15 pm
Because the $11B is coming from KSA, not the USA.

Got it ... I misread ...
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: TomSea on May 25, 2019, 12:13:13 am
Got it ... I misread ...

Still, not a bad talking point, we would be willing to forego $8 billion in sales in weapons and that amount apparently would be enough to build a wall.

Or another talking point, we build these weapons for the Saudis and do get paid for them, why not build the wall?

Still, not bad points to think about.

And these weapons destroy, they've destroyed a lot in Yemen, I'm personally not sure we should be doing this. Maybe later, I can read up on this.
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: Bigun on May 25, 2019, 12:37:25 am
Good move Mr. President!
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 25, 2019, 03:32:31 am
Is Saudi Arabia driving war with Iran?
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: corbe on May 25, 2019, 03:40:26 am
Is Saudi Arabia driving war with Iran?

   To the last American Soldier and $$$$.
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: Sanguine on May 25, 2019, 03:43:29 am
   To the last American Soldier and $$$$.


What Corbe said.
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: ABX on May 25, 2019, 01:01:32 pm
As a reminder, Saudi Arabia quite often arms terrorist groups with the arms we supply them.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/02/saudi-arabia-uae-gave-weapons-al-qaeda-linked-groups-cnn-190205055102300.html (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/02/saudi-arabia-uae-gave-weapons-al-qaeda-linked-groups-cnn-190205055102300.html)

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-05/cnn-finally-discovers-where-all-those-us-saudi-coalition-weapons-end (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-05/cnn-finally-discovers-where-all-those-us-saudi-coalition-weapons-end)

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4778185/ksauae-arming-al-qaeda (https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4778185/ksauae-arming-al-qaeda)

https://www.salon.com/2016/10/11/leaked-hillary-clinton-emails-show-u-s-allies-saudi-arabia-and-qatar-supported-isis/ (https://www.salon.com/2016/10/11/leaked-hillary-clinton-emails-show-u-s-allies-saudi-arabia-and-qatar-supported-isis/)

Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 25, 2019, 06:10:24 pm
As a reminder, Saudi Arabia quite often arms terrorist groups with the arms we supply them.


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/02/saudi-arabia-uae-gave-weapons-al-qaeda-linked-groups-cnn-190205055102300.html (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/02/saudi-arabia-uae-gave-weapons-al-qaeda-linked-groups-cnn-190205055102300.html)

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-05/cnn-finally-discovers-where-all-those-us-saudi-coalition-weapons-end (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-05/cnn-finally-discovers-where-all-those-us-saudi-coalition-weapons-end)

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4778185/ksauae-arming-al-qaeda (https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4778185/ksauae-arming-al-qaeda)

https://www.salon.com/2016/10/11/leaked-hillary-clinton-emails-show-u-s-allies-saudi-arabia-and-qatar-supported-isis/ (https://www.salon.com/2016/10/11/leaked-hillary-clinton-emails-show-u-s-allies-saudi-arabia-and-qatar-supported-isis/)


Kushner friendliness with the Crown Prince has been concerning to me this entire time.  I asked about Saudi Arabia driving US to engage in war because I saw an article about it.  Saudi Arabian news has called for Surgical strikes by America

https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/05/16/saudi-arabian-state-media-urges-u-s-to-hit-iran-hard-with-punitive-airstrikes/#69009be69484 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/2019/05/16/saudi-arabian-state-media-urges-u-s-to-hit-iran-hard-with-punitive-airstrikes/#69009be69484)


All of these players are driven by the Islamic religion and prophesy.  And all of this is driven by years of religious tension between the different sects of Islam.  Islam has end time prophesy also.   We should not get involved.  We should have learned from Iraq.  If they want to fight a religious war let them.  Furthermore if this turns into all out war we can kiss oil supply goodby because those will be the first things targetted.

Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 25, 2019, 07:04:01 pm
Christian persecution in Saudi Arabia

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=saudi+arabia+christian+persecution&view=detail&mid=59E297B2E2B10A7FEF6759E297B2E2B10A7FEF67&FORM=VIRE (https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=saudi+arabia+christian+persecution&view=detail&mid=59E297B2E2B10A7FEF6759E297B2E2B10A7FEF67&FORM=VIRE)


Interesting:


https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=saudi+arabia+christian+persecution&&view=detail&mid=7F5B3A4D61CA3A367B7C7F5B3A4D61CA3A367B7C&rvsmid=59E297B2E2B10A7FEF6759E297B2E2B10A7FEF67&FORM=VDQVAP (https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=saudi+arabia+christian+persecution&&view=detail&mid=7F5B3A4D61CA3A367B7C7F5B3A4D61CA3A367B7C&rvsmid=59E297B2E2B10A7FEF6759E297B2E2B10A7FEF67&FORM=VDQVAP)
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: TomSea on May 25, 2019, 08:19:17 pm
I lean towards us NOT selling these weapons to Saudi Arabia.

There was a thread on this yesterday,  here it is:

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,362834.msg1977953.html#msg1977953 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,362834.msg1977953.html#msg1977953)

Anyway, Obama sold them arms, I think Canada and the UK currently sell them arms. Unless the President has information that we all don't,  I"m against selling this but... at the same time, Saudi Arabia does need to defend themselves, the Houthi rebels in Yemen (Iranian proxies per some) fire off missiles towards Saudi Arabia.  They are often intercepted. So, yes, Saudi Arabia has a war on its hands but perhaps, we could do better, perhaps tell them to make better their human rights.

I said at TOS, we really might have a shadow government that at least, on some things like this, tell the Prez. what to do.

Even if Clinton had a lot to do with attacking Libya via the air, that sure seemed like an un-Obama-like action.
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 25, 2019, 09:25:32 pm
I lean towards us NOT selling these weapons to Saudi Arabia.

There was a thread on this yesterday,  here it is:

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,362834.msg1977953.html#msg1977953 (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,362834.msg1977953.html#msg1977953)

Anyway, Obama sold them arms, I think Canada and the UK currently sell them arms. Unless the President has information that we all don't,  I"m against selling this but... at the same time, Saudi Arabia does need to defend themselves, the Houthi rebels in Yemen (Iranian proxies per some) fire off missiles towards Saudi Arabia.  They are often intercepted. So, yes, Saudi Arabia has a war on its hands but perhaps, we could do better, perhaps tell them to make better their human rights.

I said at TOS, we really might have a shadow government that at least, on some things like this, tell the Prez. what to do.

Even if Clinton had a lot to do with attacking Libya via the air, that sure seemed like an un-Obama-like action.


Yes we do.  His name is Jared Kushner.  Its all tied to the ME Peace deal.  He's been meeting with Jordan King Abdullah, Saudi Arabia and Israel.  I think that Israel can't recognize the snake in the grass and neither can we.  Because Saudi Arabia finances Palestinians.


More interesting is that Jared Kushners idea for peace is no borders.  It appears he is opposed to walls.


The Middle East Peace Plan Being Pushed By Jared Kushner Will Require Israel To Tear Down Their 440 Miles Of Protective Barrier Border Walls

In an interview with Sky News, Jared Kushner said that the goal of the political component of the plan, which is still under wraps, is "really about establishing borders," before quickly qualifying that statement with "the goal of resolving these borders is really to eliminate them" because a border-free region would allow for the free flow of goods and lead to more "opportunity." Kushner said the economic effect would be felt throughout the Middle East, including Jordan, Lebanon, and Egypt.

President Trump once praised Israel’s border wall system as an example for the United States’ own security, but his son-in-law and senior adviser, Jared Kushner, said that his Middle East peace plan would ultimately eliminate dividing lines in the entire Middle East region.

Israel has spent the better part of the last decade and a half building an elaborate labyrinth of protective barrier border walls that shield them from attacks on the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, the Golan Heights and on their souther border with Egypt. This has reduced the number of terrorist incursions to virtually zero. Illegal immigration? Non-existent. Walls work. The only people against Israel’s wall system are the terrorists. No surprise there.

“For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.” 1 Thessalonians 5:3 (KJV)

https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/middle-east-peace-plan-being-pushed-by-jared-kushner-will-require-israel-tear-down-440-miles-protective-border-walls/ (https://www.nowtheendbegins.com/middle-east-peace-plan-being-pushed-by-jared-kushner-will-require-israel-tear-down-440-miles-protective-border-walls/)
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: TomSea on May 25, 2019, 09:50:30 pm

Yes we do.  His name is Jared Kushner.  Its all tied to the ME Peace deal.  He's been meeting with Jordan King Abdullah, Saudi Arabia and Israel.  I think that Israel can't recognize the snake in the grass and neither can we.  Because Saudi Arabia finances Palestinians.
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Saudi Arabia ‘doesn’t care’ about the Palestinians as long as it can make a deal with Israel against Iran, says former Netanyahu advisor
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/25/saudi-arabia-doesnt-care-palestinians-long-can-make-deal-israel/ (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11/25/saudi-arabia-doesnt-care-palestinians-long-can-make-deal-israel/)

Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 25, 2019, 10:25:26 pm



All I can say is that it really depends on what people believe in, as in God.  Christians who know Bible prophesy should be recognizing the signs.  But we know that there has been plans to build the Third Temple for years.  They have been preparing and if Kushner can get Arab Nations to agree to this then I would say it is Supernatural false peace.


Ezekiel 13:16 16those prophets of Israel who prophesied to Jerusalem and saw visions of peace for her when there was no peace, declares the Sovereign LORD."'
Ezekiel 13:10 10"'Because they lead my people astray, saying, "Peace," when there is no peace, and because, when a flimsy wall is built, they cover it with whitewash,
Jeremiah 6:14 14They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. 'Peace, peace,' they say, when there is no peace.
Jeremiah 8:11 11They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. "Peace, peace," they say, when there is no peace.

What was the entire region that God promised Israel?


Kushner's peace plan 'includes land swaps with Saudi Arabia,' book claims
A draft of the plan included an oil pipeline from Saudi Arabia to Gaza, according to newly released 'Kushner, Inc.'
By Amy Spiro
March 19, 2019

White House senior adviser Jared Kushner’s Middle East peace plan at one point included Jordan giving land to the Palestinian territories and in return getting land from Saudi Arabia, according to a new book on the Kushner family.

The book, Kushner, Inc.: Greed. Ambition. Corruption. The Extraordinary Story of Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump, was written by Vicky Ward and released by St. Martin’s Press on Tuesday. The book’s 300 pages detail Jared and Ivanka’s path to involvement in every aspect of White House affairs and their alleged designs to use their influence for personal gain.
Ward cites “multiple people who saw drafts of the plan” created by Kushner that would involve not just Israel and the Palestinians but also Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates.

“What Kushner wanted... was for the Saudis and Emiratis to provide economic assistance to the Palestinians,” Ward wrote. “There were plans for an oil pipeline from Saudi Arabia to Gaza, where refineries and a shipping terminal could be built. The profits would create desalination plants, where Palestinians could find work, addressing the high unemployment rate.”

Ward said that the plan also included land swaps, where Jordan would give land to the Palestinian territories, and “in return, Jordan would get land from Saudi Arabia, and that country would get back two Red Sea islands it gave Egypt to administer in 1950.”

Speaking to Sky News Arabia, while in Warsaw last month, Kushner said the White House plan – expected to be presented sometime after the April 9 election in Israel – would focus on border issues.

Kushner said the plan was both political and economic, and is “really about establishing borders and resolving final-status issues... The plan will have a broad economic impact, not only on Israel and the Palestinians, but on the entire region as well.” The senior adviser to the president, who is also his son-in-law, added that the plan will have a large impact on the entire region, including Jordan, Egypt and Lebanon.

In November 2018, Mike Evans – a Christian Evangelical Zionist and founder of the Friends of Zion Museum in Jerusalem – wrote an op-ed in The Jerusalem Post touting a plan to create a Saudi and European-funded desalination plant to provide clean water to Gaza.

“Over the past 30 days, I have presented a new plan to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el Sisi, Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, Trump administration officials and European Union leaders, all of whom have received it with great enthusiasm,” Evans wrote last year. “The plan is based around a simple idea: Establish an Israeli desalination plant, built on Israeli land, funded by Saudi Arabia, the Europeans and others, that provides clean water to Gaza.”

Evans said he hoped “the administration would not make this a part of the peace plan,” and said the plant should be on Israeli or Egyptian land. “When I presented the project to the crown prince, I told him that Jared Kushner was studying it,” Evans wrote in November. “He said if Kushner was interested he should contact him.”

The Ward book, published by St. Martin’s Press, emphasizes multiple times that Israel was one of the only issues on the Trump campaign trail that deeply interested Kushner. In September 2016, Netanyahu met with then-candidate Trump, Steve Bannon and Kushner in Trump Tower on the sidelines of the UN General Assembly.

“In that conversation,” Ward wrote, “Trump let Kushner jump in, because US-Israel relations was the one political issue anyone in the campaign ever saw Kushner get worked up about. ‘On the Israel stuff, Jared at least comes across like he knows what he’s talking about,’ said someone who was at the meeting.”

Ward also claimed that a source in J Street said there was a rumor Kushner had sought to delay the move of the US Embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem until he could begin negotiating his peace deal. The book also details Kushner’s clashes with then-secretary of state Rex Tillerson over Israel and negotiations with the Palestinians.

“Kushner took the Middle East from Tillerson’s portfolio,” Ward wrote. “‘I want Israel,’ is how he put it, according to a former Tillerson aide... Tillerson, a former Boy Scout, tried to work with Kushner because he thought it was the right thing to do.”

https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Kushners-peace-plan-includes-land-swaps-with-Saudi-Arabia-book-claims-583932 (https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Kushners-peace-plan-includes-land-swaps-with-Saudi-Arabia-book-claims-583932)
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: EdJames on May 25, 2019, 10:32:21 pm
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Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 25, 2019, 10:35:41 pm
(https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2018/08/trump-saudi-orb.jpg)


Wow, weird I had thought of that earlier.
Title: Re: Trump invokes emergency powers to sidestep Congress and sell arms to Saudi Arabia
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on May 26, 2019, 07:18:55 pm
As a reminder, Saudi Arabia quite often arms terrorist groups with the arms we supply them.
If Trump does it, it's good.  Get with the program hippie. :nono: