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Title: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
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2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It

Rachel del Guidice / @LRacheldG / February 05, 2021


Two Democratic senators—Sens. Joe Manchin of West Virginia and Jon Tester of Montana—who initially voted in favor of a Republican amendment reversing President Joe Biden’s cancellation of the Keystone XL pipeline later reversed themselves and voted with other Democrats to kill the amendment.

Both Tester and Manchin voted late Thursday night for the amendment from Sen. Steve Daines, R-Mont., that would have reversed Biden’s Jan. 20 executive order ending further construction of the Keystone XL oil pipeline, but changed their votes before dawn on Friday morning.

Daines’ amendment was attached to a COVID-19 relief bill and initially passed 52-48, but after Manchin and Tester switched sides, Vice President Kamala Harris cast the tie-breaking vote to kill the amendment on a straight party-line vote.

An angry Daines tweeted Friday morning, “Early this morning, while the American people were asleep, Senate Democrats chose to flip-flop on their support for my Keystone XL pipeline amendment, as well as @SenatorBraun’s amendment to support fracking.” Sen. Mike Braun is a GOP lawmaker from Indiana.

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Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: XenaLee on February 08, 2021, 04:26:40 pm
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Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: skeeter on February 08, 2021, 04:49:32 pm
I hope West Virginians are comparing the words vs actions of the fraud they keep returning to the senate.
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: catfish1957 on February 08, 2021, 04:55:42 pm
Again, exemplifying how big an idiot McConnell is for trusting democrats in any form or fashion.

Next up.  Fillibuster vote along party lines, and the Skank Kameluh breaking the tie. 
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: XenaLee on February 08, 2021, 04:58:40 pm
Again, exemplifying how big an idiot McConnell is for trusting democrats in any form or fashion.

Next up.  Fillibuster vote along party lines, and the Skank Kameluh breaking the tie.

Sorry, but.... I don't think McConnell is an idiot for trusting democrats.  I think he is an idiot for being a RINO (complicit).   And really....'idiot' is the least of what he actually is.
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: catfish1957 on February 08, 2021, 05:01:15 pm
Sorry, but.... I don't think McConnell is an idiot for trusting democrats.  I think he is an idiot for being a RINO (complicit).   And really....'idiot' is the least of what he actually is.

Giving him the short term benefit of the doubt. Only for the reason that he is about to lose all power, and even Turtles want to be relelvant.
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 08, 2021, 05:21:27 pm
:happyhappy:
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on February 08, 2021, 05:32:07 pm
Montana... did @roamer_1 vote in that election or was he being "principled"?
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: XenaLee on February 08, 2021, 06:07:55 pm
Giving him the short term benefit of the doubt. Only for the reason that he is about to lose all power, and even Turtles want to be relelvant.

He fully deserves to lose all power.   Look at what he has done with that power.   He's a male version of Pelosi, IMO....only sneakier and more gutless, since he doesn't come right out... in front of God and everyone... and tear up Trump's agenda like she tore up Trump's speech.   What he and others like him deserve is what I wish for him.   And yeah, I'm probably going to hell for that sentiment.   :smokin:
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: Fishrrman on February 08, 2021, 10:57:50 pm
Looks like for all his posturing, when the chips are down, Mr. Manchin does as he's told.

Tester... can't figure him.
Why did Montana elect this guy...?
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: XenaLee on February 08, 2021, 10:59:15 pm
Looks like for all his posturing, when the chips are down, Mr. Manchin does as he's told.

Tester... can't figure him.
Why did Montana elect this guy...?

Maybe they didn't.   ???
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on February 09, 2021, 01:29:27 am
Montana... did @roamer_1 vote in that election or was he being "principled"?
I believe you know the answer to that one.

He had more important things to do than to vote.

 999alarm
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: Cyber Liberty on February 09, 2021, 01:33:09 am
Montana... did @roamer_1 vote in that election or was he being "principled"?

Who did the GOP put up against Tester? 
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: roamer_1 on February 09, 2021, 02:39:05 am
Montana... did @roamer_1 vote in that election or was he being "principled"?

No, I did not vote for Testercle. Neither did anyone else on the west slope.
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: roamer_1 on February 09, 2021, 02:42:21 am
Maybe they didn't.   ???

Yes, they did. East of the mountains is largely democrat, with the college in Bozeman, Butte, and Great Falls (large[er]) cities holding the lion's share of the population. Testercle is a plains guy and got all their votes.

West of the mountains got Daines... Whom I didn't vote for either.

Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: roamer_1 on February 09, 2021, 02:44:38 am
I believe you know the answer to that one.

He had more important things to do than to vote.

 999alarm

To vote for people without a single feck? Damn right I'll sleep in.
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 09, 2021, 02:49:06 am
Montana... did @roamer_1 vote in that election or was he being "principled"?
Regardless, Tester just took a steaming crap in his mess kit.
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: XenaLee on February 09, 2021, 02:52:48 am
To vote for people without a single feck? Damn right I'll sleep in.

LOL!
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 09, 2021, 02:56:12 am
Yes, they did. East of the mountains is largely democrat, with the college in Bozeman, Butte, and Great Falls (large[er]) cities holding the lion's share of the population. Testercle is a plains guy and got all their votes.

West of the mountains got Daines... Whom I didn't vote for either.
Well east of the mountains in the Big Empty, with the exception of the Reservation counties, the vote went solidly GOP. https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/montana/senate/ (https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/montana/senate/)

In 2018, there were more counties more solidly 'red' in the east than in the west. It's all that Californication out there in the foothills that did it.

Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: roamer_1 on February 09, 2021, 02:56:40 am
Regardless, Tester just took a steaming crap in his mess kit.

While the patch matters east of the mountains, He'll probably be reelected till he retires. As was Max Baucus for almost all my life before him.

Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: roamer_1 on February 09, 2021, 03:02:35 am
Well east of the mountains in the Big Empty, with the exception of the Reservation counties, the vote went solidly GOP. https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/montana/senate/ (https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/montana/senate/)

In 2018, there were more counties more solidly 'red' in the east than in the west. It's all that Californication out there in the foothills that did it.

East of the mountains has backed democrats my whole life. And even yet, West of the mountains generates Republicans - Nearly always RINOs since Rasciot became governor. Something changed there in the party hierarchy.

I backed Conrad Burns as long as he was in office, Denny Rehburg, And lastly and lately, Ryan Zinke, who I had great hope for, but alas, he was one of the first through Tumpy's revolving door of appointments. I also helped to get Daines in, though I did not vote for him this time
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 09, 2021, 03:08:05 am
While the patch matters east of the mountains, He'll probably be reelected till he retires. As was Max Baucus for almost all my life before him.
There's oil from Cutbank to Hardin to Cedar Creek to Westby, and back. Basically, everywhere East of the Mountains has oil within 50 miles. Remember, too, the jobs crapped on are mainly Union jobs, and they don't take kindly to losing work (and money).
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: roamer_1 on February 09, 2021, 03:14:39 am
There's oil from Cutbank to Hardin to Cedar Creek to Westby, and back. Basically, everywhere East of the Mountains has oil within 50 miles. Remember, too, the jobs crapped on are mainly Union jobs, and they don't take kindly to losing work (and money).

Cowboy country and monster farms. You said it. The Big Empty. Population centers own the east side. That Testercle is a farmer pretty well seals him in. The farmers vote for their own, and the cities vote Democrat. Watch and see.
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: Hoodat on February 09, 2021, 03:16:07 am
Maybe Republicans should have pushed for election laws to be followed in Georgia instead of worrying about Trump winning.
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: Smokin Joe on February 09, 2021, 03:21:59 am
Maybe Republicans should have pushed for election laws to be followed in Georgia instead of worrying about Trump winning.
It was Republicans in Georgia who enabled the fraud, from the top.
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: roamer_1 on February 09, 2021, 03:25:56 am
It was Republicans in Georgia who enabled the fraud, from the top.

And MT is no better. Gianforte (governor) is a RINO. Daines turned out to be a RINO. And Rosendale is likely a RINO... The only good Conservative blood we have had in a while was Zinke.
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: Hoodat on February 09, 2021, 02:02:45 pm
It was Republicans in Georgia who enabled the fraud, from the top.

Exactly.
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: sneakypete on February 09, 2021, 04:41:47 pm
Again, exemplifying how big an idiot McConnell is for trusting democrats in any form or fashion.

 

@catfish1957

I can't believe you are naive enough to believe "Mitch,the bitch" wasn't in on the deal.
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: sneakypete on February 09, 2021, 04:43:37 pm
I believe you know the answer to that one.

He had more important things to do than to vote.

 999alarm

@Weird Tolkienish Figure   @IsailedawayfromFR

BINGO!
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: sneakypete on February 09, 2021, 04:46:42 pm
Maybe Republicans should have pushed for election laws to be followed in Georgia instead of worrying about Trump winning.

@Hoodat

WTF????

Trump DID win the vote.

He just lost the "count",and people like you contributed to the loss to the Dims.

You should be sooo proud of yourself!
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: Hoodat on February 09, 2021, 04:58:19 pm
@Hoodat

WTF????

Trump DID win the vote.

He just lost the "count",and people like you contributed to the loss to the Dims.

You should be sooo proud of yourself!

? ? ? ? ?
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: catfish1957 on February 09, 2021, 07:02:50 pm
@catfish1957

I can't believe you are naive enough to believe "Mitch,the bitch" wasn't in on the deal.

Sorry, not naivety.  As mentioned above, benefit of the doubt knowing  politicans drunk on power can only survive with another bottle on the way.  More likely a form of captitulation, knowing that any semebelence of power sharing (50/50) relies at least playing nice part of the time.
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: sneakypete on February 09, 2021, 07:10:49 pm
Sorry, not naivety.  As mentioned above, benefit of the doubt knowing  politicans drunk on power can only survive with another bottle on the way.  More likely a form of captitulation, knowing that any semebelence of power sharing (50/50) relies at least playing nice part of the time.

@catfish1957

You may be right,but that chinless wonder with the Chinese wife seems to be more into power sharing than winning.
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: catfish1957 on February 09, 2021, 07:15:53 pm
@catfish1957

You may be right,but that chinless wonder with the Chinese wife seems to be more into power sharing than winning.

@sneakypete

Exactly....  As as with 95% of the other congresscritters, are more worried about their own poltical well being than the well being of the country.
Title: Re: 2 Senators Flip-Flop on Keystone XL Pipeline, Thwarting GOP Bid to Save It
Post by: Sled Dog on February 09, 2021, 09:24:29 pm
Again, exemplifying how big an idiot McConnell is for trusting democrats in any form or fashion.

Next up.  Fillibuster vote along party lines, and the Skank Kameluh breaking the tie.

The Ho's vote won't be needed.   

The Rodents have a secret weapon.  They wear the Mittens.