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Title: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: 240B on June 25, 2018, 12:25:46 pm

The Hill
BY MALLORY SHELBOURNE
06/25/18 07:46 AM EDT

President Trump said early Monday that the Virginia restaurant that refused to serve White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders is "dirty" and "needs a paint job."

“The Red Hen Restaurant should focus more on cleaning its filthy canopies, doors and windows (badly needs a paint job) rather than refusing to serve a fine person like Sarah Huckabee Sanders," the president wrote on Twitter.

"I always had a rule, if a restaurant is dirty on the outside, it is dirty on the inside!"

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http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/393900-trump-dirty-restaurant-that-refused-sanders-needs-a-paint-job
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: 240B on June 25, 2018, 12:27:45 pm
I support the President in most things. However this was just stupid. It does nothing to help anything at all.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: RedHead on June 25, 2018, 01:05:55 pm
I support the President in most things. However this was just stupid. It does nothing to help anything at all.

The administration had the Solicitor General file a friend of the court brief in support of the Colorado baker who believed he had the right to decide who he would serve.  Yet they attack this restaurant for the same reason.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: ABX on June 25, 2018, 01:08:01 pm
Jesus. I swear he wants to get sued.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: goodwithagun on June 25, 2018, 01:12:48 pm
Did his mother not hug him enough? This was being handles so well on social media. All he had to do was sit back and watch the shit show unravel. But no, by the clicking of his thumbs, something stupid this way comes.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: HoustonSam on June 25, 2018, 01:27:41 pm
The administration had the Solicitor General file a friend of the court brief in support of the Colorado baker who believed he had the right to decide who he would serve.  Yet they attack this restaurant for the same reason.

Trump's tweet reported here is stupid, and personally I believe the owners of this restaurant have the right to deny service to anyone they choose for any reason they choose.  A customer is free to refuse a transaction for any reason he wishes, in my opinion a vendor should have the same freedom.

But the Colorado baker did not assert the right to decide *whom* he would serve.  He asserted the right to decide *what* he would serve.  As has been discussed here at length, the baker offered to sell the homosexual couple anything already in his shop, but he would not prepare a wedding cake for them.  The "progressive" left is quick to claim hypocrisy against anyone who supported the baker and does not support the restaurant, but in fact the baker did not attempt to exercise the right which was actually asserted by the restaurant owner.

Having said that I'll confess that I'm ignorant of the Trump Administration's Friend of the Court brief; perhaps the Solicitor General did argue there that the baker could choose *whom* he would serve, in which case I'll agree that the charge of hypocrisy against the Trump Administration has merit.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: WingNot on June 25, 2018, 01:33:02 pm
Quote
"I always had a rule, if a restaurant is dirty on the outside, it is dirty on the inside!"

I agree 100%.

He tweeted the truth and I see nothing wrong with him doing so.   
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: RedHead on June 25, 2018, 01:36:54 pm
But the Colorado baker did not assert the right to decide *whom* he would serve.   He asserted the right to decide *what* he would serve.
The "*what* he would serve" was based on who they were.  If a cake is an expression of his art then is a fine meal any different?

As has been discussed here at length, the baker offered to sell the homosexual couple anything already in his shop, but he would not prepare a wedding cake for them.  The "progressive" left is quick to claim hypocrisy against anyone who supported the baker and does not support the restaurant, but in fact the baker did not attempt to exercise the right which was actually asserted by the restaurant owner.

Oh please.  The baker refused the serve the gay couple based on who they were.  The restaurant did the same.

Having said that I'll confess that I'm ignorant of the Trump Administration's Friend of the Court brief; perhaps the Solicitor General did argue there that the baker could choose *whom* he would serve, in which case I'll agree that the charge of hypocrisy against the Trump Administration has merit.
At lease we agree there.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: WingNot on June 25, 2018, 01:38:43 pm
Jesus. I swear he wants to get sued.

Now that is funny I don't care who you are! 

Good One!
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: HoustonSam on June 25, 2018, 01:43:39 pm
The "*what* he would serve" was based on who they were.  If a cake is an expression of his art then is a fine meal any different?

Oh please.  The baker refused the serve the gay couple based on who they were.  The restaurant did the same.

To defend this position you'll have to provide evidence that the baker refused to sell the homosexual couple anything and asked them to leave his shop.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: XenaLee on June 25, 2018, 01:50:37 pm
One step forward, two steps backward.  It has become The Pattern.   Trump's Pattern.  Well established. 

He has a tendency to 'step in it' via his tweeting.  He would have done much more toward the cause of being pro-Sanders and anti-Red Hen by simply saying that what they did, drive her and her family out of the restaurant mid-meal, was (or should be) beneath most adults in DC.  Sadly and unfortunetly, however, since he has weighed in in this manner, there will be much more examples NOW of the same bigotry against anyone that works for him in any capacity.

Heckuva job, Trumpy!
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Hoodat on June 25, 2018, 01:51:51 pm
I support the President in most things. However this was just stupid. It does nothing to help anything at all.

The reason Trump does this is to put his opponents off balance.  While not a fan of this tactic, I must admit that it has been working for quite sometime.  When your opponent becomes unhinged because of statements like this, then their entire pre-frontal cortex shuts down, and they are unable to process effectively.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: RedHead on June 25, 2018, 01:53:37 pm
To defend this position you'll have to provide evidence that the baker refused to sell the homosexual couple anything and asked them to leave his shop.
To say that there was no similarity between the two you would have to provide evidence that the restaurant would have refused to serve Sanders had she not been a member of the Trump administration.

The baker can justify his position any way he wants.  The fact is that had the couple in question not been homosexual then he would have baked the cake for them.  He denied them service based on who they were as much as what they wanted.  The restaurant did the same.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: skeeter on June 25, 2018, 01:53:47 pm
The reason Trump does this is to put his opponents off balance.  While not a fan of this tactic, I must admit that it has been working for quite sometime.  When your opponent becomes unhinged because of statements like this, then their entire pre-frontal cortex shuts down, and they are unable to process effectively.

He does drive them to distraction. I gotta say its fun to watch.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Hoodat on June 25, 2018, 01:53:57 pm
The administration had the Solicitor General file a friend of the court brief in support of the Colorado baker who believed he had the right to decide who he would serve.

@RedHead

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.  It was never about who he served.  It was about what he served.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: RedHead on June 25, 2018, 01:54:41 pm
When your opponent becomes unhinged because of statements like this, then their entire pre-frontal cortex shuts down, and they are unable to process effectively.

There isn't a whole lot hinged about the text in question. 
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Hoodat on June 25, 2018, 01:54:43 pm
He does drive them to distraction. I gotta say its fun to watch.

Correctamundo!
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: RedHead on June 25, 2018, 01:57:08 pm
@RedHead

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.  It was never about who he served.  It was about what he served.

You can't divorce the "what" from the "who".
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Hoodat on June 25, 2018, 02:00:42 pm
To say that there was no similarity between the two you would have to provide evidence that the restaurant would have refused to serve Sanders had she not been a member of the Trump administration.

@RedHead

That is asinine.


The fact is that had the couple in question not been homosexual then he would have baked the cake for them.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.  First of all, the sexual preference of the customer was never brought into issue, nor was the sexual preference of a heterosexual woman who made the same request.  The FACT of the matter is that the baker refused to make a cake that he does not make, regardless of the sexual preference of the customer.

I would strongly suggest that you take the time to read the Colorado decision for yourself and learn the facts instead of repeating the same false liberal talking points that have been debunked again and again and again on these boards.



Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Hoodat on June 25, 2018, 02:02:08 pm
You can't divorce the "what" from the "who".

Why not?  The two are not the same.  Not at all.  Only someone totally devoid of reason and critical thought would suggest that 'who' and 'what' are synonymous.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: skeeter on June 25, 2018, 02:03:33 pm
You can't divorce the "what" from the "who".

I believe the baker also denied the same product to one of the gay couples mother, who was heterosexual. So yes, in that case you can separate the what from the who.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Hoodat on June 25, 2018, 02:06:56 pm
What part of "The baker refused to create a same-sex wedding cake for a heterosexual customer" do you not get?

And what part of "The baker offered to bake any other product he makes to the homosexual customer" eludes you?

Stop lying, already.  It is clear that we have read the case.  And it is equally clear that you have not.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: ABX on June 25, 2018, 02:10:44 pm
This instance is a bit different than his other trumpertantrums. In this case, he targeted a specific business with specific statements about health and safety which he likely does not know first hand. Those statements were not made in good faith (ie he didn't make the statement about the cleanliness from first hand experience witnessing this) but to impact this restaurant's business.

Along those lines, about a year ago, a photographer sued bloggers for making false statements about her business on social media. The photographer won one million dollars. I think this restaurant would actually have more of a case because Trump wasn't even a customer who visited their facility.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2017/08/01/couple-allegedly-destroys-wedding-photogs-reputation-business-125-dispute-judge-makes-regret-520605 (https://www.bizpacreview.com/2017/08/01/couple-allegedly-destroys-wedding-photogs-reputation-business-125-dispute-judge-makes-regret-520605)
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: skeeter on June 25, 2018, 02:11:59 pm
This instance is a bit different than his other trumpertantrums. In this case, he targeted a specific business with specific statements about health and safety which he likely does not know first hand. Those statements were not made in good faith (ie he didn't make the statement about the cleanliness from first hand experience witnessing this) but to impact this restaurant's business.

Along those lines, about a year ago, a photographer sued bloggers for making false statements about her business on social media. The photographer won one million dollars. I think this restaurant would actually have more of a case because Trump wasn't even a customer who visited their facility.

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2017/08/01/couple-allegedly-destroys-wedding-photogs-reputation-business-125-dispute-judge-makes-regret-520605 (https://www.bizpacreview.com/2017/08/01/couple-allegedly-destroys-wedding-photogs-reputation-business-125-dispute-judge-makes-regret-520605)

If you're right Yelp is in a heap of trouble.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: ABX on June 25, 2018, 02:14:00 pm
What part of "The baker refused to create a same-sex wedding cake for a heterosexual customer" do you not get?

And what part of "The baker offered to bake any other product he makes to the homosexual customer" eludes you?

Stop lying, already.  It is clear that we have read the case.  And it is equally clear that you have not.

I believe it was even a bit more nuanced than that. The baker wouldn't take part in the ceremony. He offered an undecorated cake they could take.

Part of being a baker for weddings is to go and set up the cake. For weddings with elaborate cakes, this isn't like picking up a birthday cake in wal mart.  The baker goes to the ceremony and helps set up and take down. They are part of the ceremony vendors like a photographer or florist.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Suppressed on June 25, 2018, 02:15:40 pm
I support the President in most things. However this was just stupid. It does nothing to help anything at all.

Sure it does.  It helps the restaurant get more business with its target clientele.

And makes Sanders look bad for choosing such a "dirty" restaurant.

Trump’s Attempt to Bully Restaurant Is Going to Backfire Hilariously
By Jonathan Chait  @jonathanchait   July 25, 2017
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/06/trump-attempt-to-bully-red-hen-restaurant-will-backfire.html (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/06/trump-attempt-to-bully-red-hen-restaurant-will-backfire.html)

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But the larger issue here concerns restaurant economics. If you’re a national politician, net positives matter a lot. It’s hard to win national office if large numbers of people loathe you. The restaurant business is quite different. You don’t need to win plurality national support to profitably operate a small entity in Lexington, Virginia. You only need an extremely tiny percentage of the public to support you. Whether the remainder of the public is indifferent or hostile to the prospect of ordering a $25 Shenandoah Lamb Co. braised leg of lamb with harissa-spiced Wades Mill Polenta and a side of Fennel & Dill Salad matters not at all.

The name of the game in the restaurant business is getting on the map. If Trump’s social media abuse was wildly successful, and it created 100 new Red Hen haters for every one new Red Hen fan, it would still be a big win for the Red Hen, which at this point probably now has a waiting list for reservations longer than Trump’s term in office.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: HoustonSam on June 25, 2018, 02:17:12 pm
To say that there was no similarity between the two you would have to provide evidence that the restaurant would have refused to serve Sanders had she not been a member of the Trump administration.

The baker can justify his position any way he wants.  The fact is that had the couple in question not been homosexual then he would have baked the cake for them.  He denied them service based on who they were as much as what they wanted.  The restaurant did the same.

I understand your argument to be that the restaurant denied service not because of who Sarah Sanders is, but because of something she chooses to do.  That's a good distinction and a very fair point.

However the baker took a far less assertive position with the homosexual couple; he never asked them to leave and offered to sell them anything else he had available.  He simply would not support one particular thing they chose to do, which was to hold a wedding ceremony.  Short of supporting that one particular thing they chose to do he was happy to engage in business with them.  That's very different from the position taken by the restaurant owner.

Had the restaurant owner refused to cater a pro-Trump banquet but agreed to serve Sarah Sanders a routine meal, or had the baker refused to do any business with the homosexual couple and asked them to leave, the cases would be the same.  However neither of those things happened.

From prior experience debating this with others I can see that you and I are not going to get any closer on how we view the issue of the baker.  I appreciate your sincerity @RedHead and look forward to agreeing with you on other threads.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: thackney on June 25, 2018, 02:21:43 pm
You can't divorce the "what" from the "who".

He offered to sell them other products already in the store.

He didn't care who they were, it was what they wanted him to make.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: txradioguy on June 25, 2018, 02:25:30 pm
The baker refused to make a cake because of personal beliefs about the LGBTQYXZ crowd.

The Red Hen's owner/manager made the decision after several servers became upset because of the Trump administration's Transgender's in the military ban...and the fact the eatery employs members of the LGBTQXYZ crowd.

Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Hoodat on June 25, 2018, 02:27:50 pm
Sure it does.  It helps the restaurant get more business with its target clientele.

There was a case several years back where a Radford, VA bakery refused to bake cookies for a Democrat event featuring Vice President Joe Biden.  It proved to be a huge windfall for the baker because Conservatives are willing to back their convictions with their dollars.   On the other hand, liberals do not share this characteristic.  They are only willing to back their convictions with other people's money.  It's what makes them liberals.

So no, I don't foresee any economic boom for this restaurant.  Just as with AirAmerica, liberals had their golden opportunity to fund liberal talk radio.  Yet they failed.  Sure, they were willing to use taxpayer money (i.e. other people's money) to fund it.  But when it came to their own money, they let it go bankrupt instead.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Hoodat on June 25, 2018, 02:32:23 pm
He offered to sell them other products already in the store.

Actually, he took it a step further by offering to bake something for them.  Not just what was on the shelf, but something to be made from scratch - birthday cake, cupcakes, cookies, etc.  He simply did not make the cake they requested.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on June 25, 2018, 02:32:27 pm
Trump's tweet will probably make it business, frankly. I would assume that after Sanders was slightest, a lot of angry Trump fans were going after it on yelp. Now that the President has singled it out, it will piss off a lot of liberal, and they will probably patronize it, and will be motivated to leave better reviews.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: XenaLee on June 25, 2018, 02:34:01 pm
There was a case several years back where a Radford, VA bakery refused to bake cookies for a Democrat event featuring Vice President Joe Biden.  It proved to be a huge windfall for the baker because Conservatives are willing to back their convictions with their dollars.   On the other hand, liberals do not share this characteristic.  They are only willing to back their convictions with other people's money.  It's what makes them liberals.

So no, I don't foresee any economic boom for this restaurant.  Just as with AirAmerica, liberals had their golden opportunity to fund liberal talk radio.  Yet they failed.  Sure, they were willing to use taxpayer money (i.e. other people's money) to fund it.  But when it came to their own money, they let it go bankrupt instead.

Excellent and spot-on point.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Restored on June 25, 2018, 02:40:47 pm
I don't think the Radford bakery is there anymore. The owner's dad had a stroke a while back and I don't know if it was related to that.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: RedHead on June 25, 2018, 02:44:21 pm
@RedHead

That is asinine.

Why?

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.  First of all, the sexual preference of the customer was never brought into issue, nor was the sexual preference of a heterosexual woman who made the same request.  The FACT of the matter is that the baker refused to make a cake that he does not make, regardless of the sexual preference of the customer.
How do you refuse to make a cake for a gay wedding without involving the sexual orientation of the bridal couple?

I would strongly suggest that you take the time to read the Colorado decision for yourself and learn the facts instead of repeating the same false liberal talking points that have been debunked again and again and again on these boards.

I've read it.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: RedHead on June 25, 2018, 02:45:32 pm
Actually, he took it a step further by offering to bake something for them.  Not just what was on the shelf, but something to be made from scratch - birthday cake, cupcakes, cookies, etc.  He simply did not make the cake they requested.

Well I doubt he needs to worry about that.  People go where they're wanted and avoid where they are not. 
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Hoodat on June 25, 2018, 02:48:10 pm
I don't think the Radford bakery is there anymore. The owner's dad had a stroke a while back and I don't know if it was related to that.

That's a shame.  They were a really nice couple.  I had the pleasure of stopping at that store while traveling up I-81 in the midst of that brouhaha.  They hired a group of local kids there on standby who would make deliveries to hospitals, schools, and local organizations to diligently fulfill all the orders phoned in from across the country.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Hoodat on June 25, 2018, 02:54:58 pm
Why?

Because there is no rational connection between the two.


How do you refuse to make a cake for a gay wedding without involving the sexual orientation of the bridal couple?

If you had read the court papers, you would know that this was about a same-sex wedding - not a gay wedding.


I've read it.

Really?  Yet here you are offering a false account of that record - the same record you now claim to have read - with the expressed intent of deceiving others.  There's a word for people who do that.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: jpsb on June 25, 2018, 02:56:15 pm
I see all the NTers are having another hissy fit over Trump telling it like it is. Keep up the good work
Mr President.

FYI Conservatives are not a protected group so no one is saying the dirty eatery did not have the
right to deny service to Mrs Sanders.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Hoodat on June 25, 2018, 02:58:36 pm
Well I doubt he needs to worry about that.  People go where they're wanted and avoid where they are not.

Normally, that is the case.  But not here.  These customers knew in advance that this baker did not make same-sex wedding cakes.  They chose to exploit this situation hoping to set a legal precedent in a state that did not recognize same-sex marriage.  They lost.  The Constitution won.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: RedHead on June 25, 2018, 03:06:14 pm
I understand your argument to be that the restaurant denied service not because of who Sarah Sanders is, but because of something she chooses to do.  That's a good distinction and a very fair point.

I'm sorry but I'm not seeing the distinction.  In both cases the business owner chose to discriminate and used their moral beliefs to support their decision.


However the baker took a far less assertive position with the homosexual couple; he never asked them to leave and offered to sell them anything else he had available.  He simply would not support one particular thing they chose to do, which was to hold a wedding ceremony.  Short of supporting that one particular thing they chose to do he was happy to engage in business with them.  That's very different from the position taken by the restaurant owner.

Not really.  Had Sarah Sanders not been Trump's Press Secretary then the restaurant would have served her without issue.  Had the couple in question not been homosexual then he would have baked them a cake. 

Had the restaurant owner refused to cater a pro-Trump banquet but agreed to serve Sarah Sanders a routine meal, or had the baker refused to do any business with the homosexual couple and asked them to leave, the cases would be the same.  However neither of those things happened.

I don't agree that's relevant.  In the first place, I've seen nothing to indicate the restaurant caters so we don't have any indication that they would provide a service to one party while denying it to another.  We do have that with the baker.  The continued claim that the baker would have served them anything else is also irrelevant.  Had the baker, for example, said that they would not bake a cake for a mixed race couple wishing to marry but would be open to selling them a cookie then would that be alright?

From prior experience debating this with others I can see that you and I are not going to get any closer on how we view the issue of the baker.  I appreciate your sincerity @RedHead and look forward to agreeing with you on other threads.
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Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: ABX on June 25, 2018, 03:06:25 pm
I see all the NTers are having another hissy fit over Trump telling it like it is. Keep up the good work
Mr President.

FYI Conservatives are not a protected group so no one is saying the dirty eatery did not have the
right to deny service to Mrs Sanders.

"telling it like it is"

So then you know for a fact the restaurant is dirty and unclean? Or did he just make a rabid, reactionary post with no factual evidence behind it in order to fire people up? 

This is beyond saying they were wrong. He was actually commenting on the health and safety of a business that I assume, he hasn't visited. IE, unless he has some demonstrable evidence, he was lying and setting himself up for legal liability.

This isn't 'telling it like it is', this is like an internet troll spamming restaurant reviews saying their are roaches in the food.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: txradioguy on June 25, 2018, 03:09:56 pm
"telling it like it is"

So then you know for a fact the restaurant is dirty and unclean? Or did he just make a rabid, reactionary post with no factual evidence behind it in order to fire people up? 

This is beyond saying they were wrong. He was actually commenting on the health and safety of a business that I assume, he hasn't visited. IE, unless he has some demonstrable evidence, he was lying and setting himself up for legal liability.

This isn't 'telling it like it is', this is like an internet troll spamming restaurant reviews saying their are roaches in the food.

QFT
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: edpc on June 25, 2018, 03:15:25 pm
DONALD TRUMP SLAMS RED HEN, BUT MAR-A-LAGO RESTAURANT HAS 'DIRTY' HISTORY OF HEALTH VIOLATIONS

But if cleanliness is one of Trump’s rules, it’s one he has a history of breaking. In November, Trump’s exclusive Mar-a-Lago resort and club was hit with 15 health code violations that stemmed from its two main kitchens. Among the violations were milk stored at 49 degrees and hot dogs placed on the ground of a walk-in freezer.

In January 2017, the same kitchens were found to have sushi that wasn’t treated for parasites and various foods stored in broken down freezers. The report found four basic violations, three intermediate violations and three high priority violations


http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-red-hen-mar-lago-health-993790 (http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-red-hen-mar-lago-health-993790)
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Restored on June 25, 2018, 03:17:07 pm
I can't believe our news media is focusing on this stuff. The BBC must be laughing their butts off at us.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: ABX on June 25, 2018, 03:22:31 pm
BTW, the last health report they had showed no violations.

http://healthspace.com/Clients/VDH/VDH/web.nsf/module_healthRegions.xsp (http://healthspace.com/Clients/VDH/VDH/web.nsf/module_healthRegions.xsp)
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: ABX on June 25, 2018, 03:23:17 pm
I can't believe our news media is focusing on this stuff. The BBC must be laughing their butts off at us.

It doesn't help when the Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces focuses on this stuff and acts like a 12 year old internet troll.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: HoustonSam on June 25, 2018, 03:27:21 pm
I'm sorry but I'm not seeing the distinction.  In both cases the business owner chose to discriminate and used their moral beliefs to support their decision.

Not really.  Had Sarah Sanders not been Trump's Press Secretary then the restaurant would have served her without issue.  Had the couple in question not been homosexual then he would have baked them a cake.

The cases are the same in that each business owner asserted the right to operate in accord with his own conscience.

Quote
I don't agree that's relevant.  In the first place, I've seen nothing to indicate the restaurant caters so we don't have any indication that they would provide a service to one party while denying it to another.  We do have that with the baker.  The continued claim that the baker would have served them anything else is also irrelevant.  Had the baker, for example, said that they would not bake a cake for a mixed race couple wishing to marry but would be open to selling them a cookie then would that be alright?

The cases are different in that the restaurant owner refused to do any business with Sarah Sanders, while the baker selectively refused to perform a particular service and welcomed the would-be homosexual customers for any other business they might wish.

There is nothing hypocritical or contradictory in arguing that a conscience-based selective refusal to perform a specific service is different from a conscience-based blanket refusal to do any business.  In fact the former policy respects the would-be customer much more than the latter.  I don't know how to be any more clear than that.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: XenaLee on June 25, 2018, 03:27:38 pm
DONALD TRUMP SLAMS RED HEN, BUT MAR-A-LAGO RESTAURANT HAS 'DIRTY' HISTORY OF HEALTH VIOLATIONS

But if cleanliness is one of Trump’s rules, it’s one he has a history of breaking. In November, Trump’s exclusive Mar-a-Lago resort and club was hit with 15 health code violations that stemmed from its two main kitchens. Among the violations were milk stored at 49 degrees and hot dogs placed on the ground of a walk-in freezer.

In January 2017, the same kitchens were found to have sushi that wasn’t treated for parasites and various foods stored in broken down freezers. The report found four basic violations, three intermediate violations and three high priority violations


http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-red-hen-mar-lago-health-993790 (http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-red-hen-mar-lago-health-993790)

This is the problem with Trump.... rather than attempting to diffuse a situation.... or rather than (gasp!) just not saying/tweeting anything about it (can't have that!)....  Trump does his employees and supporters a disservice by "weighing in" on stupid crap like this. 

He basically (apparently) just loves to throw gasoline on an already flaming fire.  Really, REALLY stupid, IMO.  Especially since somebody IS probably going to end up dead as a result of all of this deliberately ramped up hatred and rhetoric AND actions.

Not the kind of maturity (as in adult vs. brat) and restraint that "I" want to see in our Commander In Chief.   Just sayin....
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: ABX on June 25, 2018, 03:28:43 pm
Someone set up a gofundme for the restaurant and they blew past the fundraising target in a few hours. Over 5 thousand in donations already.
https://www.gofundme.com/rewarding-red-hen039s-courage (https://www.gofundme.com/rewarding-red-hen039s-courage)
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: dfwgator on June 25, 2018, 03:36:12 pm
I support the President in most things. However this was just stupid. It does nothing to help anything at all.

When you are winning on something....STFU!
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: jpsb on June 25, 2018, 03:44:28 pm
This is the problem with Trump.... rather than attempting to diffuse a situation.... or rather than (gasp!) just not saying/tweeting anything about it (can't have that!)....  Trump does his employees and supporters a disservice by "weighing in" on stupid crap like this. 

OMG Trump fights back. Guess yall are used to just taking delux s**t from the anti-American
Marxists like G. W. Bush (spit) did. Well I'm happy Trump fights back. And I like the facts that when
he does all you Trump haters head's explode. Way to go Trump!
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: edpc on June 25, 2018, 03:44:44 pm
BTW, the last health report they had showed no violations.

http://healthspace.com/Clients/VDH/VDH/web.nsf/module_healthRegions.xsp (http://healthspace.com/Clients/VDH/VDH/web.nsf/module_healthRegions.xsp)


Unlike Mar-a-Lago.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: ABX on June 25, 2018, 03:46:05 pm
When you are winning on something....STFU!

That's been one of his biggest problems. He sabotages his position. This happened often during the campaign too. He would hit a home run on something, then walk off the field and pee in the dugout instad of taking the point.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: RedHead on June 25, 2018, 03:46:50 pm
Because there is no rational connection between the two.

If you had read the court papers, you would know that this was about a same-sex wedding - not a gay wedding.

LOL!  And the difference is?

Really?  Yet here you are offering a false account of that record - the same record you now claim to have read - with the expressed intent of deceiving others.  There's a word for people who do that.

No, I just don't have your imaginative interpretation.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Suppressed on June 25, 2018, 03:48:21 pm

Unlike Mar-a-Lago.

Repeatedly.

Sushi untreated for parasites, etc.  Yuck.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: RedHead on June 25, 2018, 03:52:04 pm
The cases are the same in that each business owner asserted the right to operate in accord with his own conscience.

I think we can agree on that.
The cases are different in that the restaurant owner refused to do any business with Sarah Sanders, while the baker selectively refused to perform a particular service and welcomed the would-be homosexual customers for any other business they might wish.

OK, so then if the restaurant had just kicked out Sanders but agreed to serve the rest of her family then that would be OK?

There is nothing hypocritical or contradictory in arguing that a conscience-based selective refusal to perform a specific service is different from a conscience-based blanket refusal to do any business.  In fact the former policy respects the would-be customer much more than the latter.  I don't know how to be any more clear than that.

In both cases the business refused to provide a service based on their moral conscience.  Selective or blanket, it doesn't matter.  They refused service for the same reason. 
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: XenaLee on June 25, 2018, 03:52:39 pm
OMG Trump fights back. Guess yall are used to just taking delux s**t from the anti-American
Marxists like G. W. Bush (spit) did. Well I'm happy Trump fights back. And I like the facts that when
he does all you Trump haters head's explode. Way to go Trump!

You don't get it.... obviously.   When you hold the highest office in the land, you should have the maturity to know that you pick and choose your battles.  You don't opinionize on every....single... sliver of minutia that happens on a daily basis.   

Is it ok with the devout Trump supporters that Trump does this?  Sure.  Is it wise or mature for him to do it?  Hell no.  Not in ANY book of logic.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: INVAR on June 25, 2018, 03:56:57 pm
OMG Trump fights back. Guess yall are used to just taking delux s**t from the anti-American
Marxists like G. W. Bush (spit) did. Well I'm happy Trump fights back. And I like the facts that when
he does all you Trump haters head's explode. Way to go Trump!

By all means, when the nation is on the verge of a violent bloodbath between Leftists and Trumsplicans - let's have the President of the United States throw GASOLINE on the stoked embers and light it off in a bright flash of hot!

Tit for tat will become an eye for an eye and it conflagrates from there.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: ABX on June 25, 2018, 04:01:14 pm
You don't get it.... obviously.   When you hold the highest office in the land, you should have the maturity to know that you pick and choose your battles.  You don't opinionize on every....single... sliver of minutia that happens on a daily basis.   

Is it ok with the devout Trump supporters that Trump does this?  Sure.  Is it wise or mature for him to do it?  Hell no.  Not in ANY book of logic.

And let's not forget the principle of the matter-

The US Federal Government Executive branch is targeting a private business over political beliefs.

Yes, we all disagree with the politics of the restaurant, but this is a huge over-step of the federal government authority. When Obama did it, we screamed. We should oppose this over-reach by the federal government no matter what letter is behind either player's name.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: ABX on June 25, 2018, 04:03:01 pm
OMG Trump fights back. Guess yall are used to just taking delux s**t from the anti-American
Marxists like G. W. Bush (spit) did. Well I'm happy Trump fights back. And I like the facts that when
he does all you Trump haters head's explode. Way to go Trump!

So  you are OK with the federal government targeting a private business over political differences?

This is all just a big game, whoever can score a hit. Ignoring the fact that one player shouldn't even be playing the game.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 25, 2018, 04:10:08 pm
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/004/128/BRILLIANT_.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: RoosGirl on June 25, 2018, 04:10:25 pm
And let's not forget the principle of the matter-

The US Federal Government Executive branch is targeting a private business over political beliefs.

Yes, we all disagree with the politics of the restaurant, but this is a huge over-step of the federal government authority. When Obama did it, we screamed. We should oppose this over-reach by the federal government no matter what letter is behind either player's name.

Yep, this is the problem I have with it.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: XenaLee on June 25, 2018, 04:12:33 pm
And let's not forget the principle of the matter-

The US Federal Government Executive branch is targeting a private business over political beliefs.

Yes, we all disagree with the politics of the restaurant, but this is a huge over-step of the federal government authority. When Obama did it, we screamed. We should oppose this over-reach by the federal government no matter what letter is behind either player's name.

Absolutely.  And Trump represents the federal government, no matter how his most devout (anything goes) supporters would like to think otherwise in incidents like this.  When someone gets killed due to the ramped up rhetoric and emotions, they will probably also refuse to acknowledge any blame by him for having added to that hate rhetoric stuff. 

What he tweeted about the restaurant may be true and accurate, but it's beneath the office he represents.  (just my humble opinion & two cents)



Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: WingNot on June 25, 2018, 04:43:12 pm
Whine Whine Whine.  Take the high road they said. We don't act like that they said. We are better than that.  Well,  Bullshit on that high road crap.  Every time we tried to take the high road those g-damn rats would dig a tunnel under us and we sank like a Florida car dealership in a sinkhole.
  You guys can have the high road.  I'm staying with my friend in low places.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: RoosGirl on June 25, 2018, 04:46:51 pm
Whine Whine Whine.  Take the high road they said. We don't act like that they said. We are better than that.  Well,  Bullshit on that high road crap.  Every time we tried to take the high road those g-damn rats would dig a tunnel under us and we sank like a Florida car dealership in a sinkhole.
  You guys can have the high road.  I'm staying with my friend in low places.

Then you agree that private businesses can and should be compelled by the gov't to serve everyone who demands it?
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 25, 2018, 04:51:24 pm
Whine Whine Whine.  Take the high road they said. We don't act like that they said. We are better than that.  Well,  Bullshit on that high road crap.  Every time we tried to take the high road those g-damn rats would dig a tunnel under us and we sank like a Florida car dealership in a sinkhole.
  You guys can have the high road.  I'm staying with my friend in low places.

Trump needs to stop playing when he's won the hand.  He'd already won this one.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: INVAR on June 25, 2018, 04:52:22 pm
Then you agree that private businesses can and should be compelled by the gov't to serve everyone who demands it?

No.  They think that Private businesses that represent the ideology a people hate, are to use government, the courts or the President to punish them very publicly.

Using the Government as a weapon is now justified for use by both the Marxist/Homo Left and the vengeful ForeverTrump®s

We will have tyranny now, regardless whichever entity controls congress or the Presidency.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: txradioguy on June 25, 2018, 04:59:52 pm
You don't get it.... obviously.   When you hold the highest office in the land, you should have the maturity to know that you pick and choose your battles.  You don't opinionize on every....single... sliver of minutia that happens on a daily basis.   

Is it ok with the devout Trump supporters that Trump does this?  Sure.  Is it wise or mature for him to do it?  Hell no.  Not in ANY book of logic.

Amazing how some people can make the painfully obvious so very hard to see.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: RoosGirl on June 25, 2018, 05:00:40 pm
No.  They think that Private businesses that represent the ideology a people hate, are to use government, the courts or the President to punish them very publicly.

Using the Government as a weapon is now justified for use by both the Marxist/Homo Left and the vengeful ForeverTrump®s

We will have tyranny now, regardless whichever entity controls congress or the Presidency.

Yes, but that's too complex an idea to worry about.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: edpc on June 25, 2018, 05:01:21 pm
Trump needs to stop playing when he's won the hand.  He'd already won this one.


Except his involvement was indirect, so he had to step into the center of it.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on June 25, 2018, 05:04:54 pm
Whine Whine Whine.  Take the high road they said. We don't act like that they said. We are better than that.  Well,  Bullshit on that high road crap.  Every time we tried to take the high road those g-damn rats would dig a tunnel under us and we sank like a Florida car dealership in a sinkhole.
  You guys can have the high road.  I'm staying with my friend in low places.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: WingNot on June 25, 2018, 05:09:12 pm
Trump needs to stop playing when he's won the hand.  He'd already won this one.

I play till the whistle blows or my opponent gives up.  Even then I would give them a knee to the groin.   
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: txradioguy on June 25, 2018, 05:13:10 pm
I play till the whistle blows or my opponent gives up.  Even then I would give them a knee to the groin.

But what Trump did is the equivalent of a fan running onto the field because of a bad call.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: WingNot on June 25, 2018, 05:14:56 pm
But what Trump did is the equivalent of a fan running onto the field because of a bad call.

No it was like Woody Hayes run on the field to tackle a player.

These are the type of leaders I want to play for.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: ABX on June 25, 2018, 05:15:26 pm
No.  They think that Private businesses that represent the ideology a people hate, are to use government, the courts or the President to punish them very publicly.

Using the Government as a weapon is now justified for use by both the Marxist/Homo Left and the vengeful ForeverTrump®s

We will have tyranny now, regardless whichever entity controls congress or the Presidency.

That right there, in bold, is exactly what most oppose.

Many Conservatives went from disliking the restaurant and joining boycotts (and even mob comments) to suddenly saying 'hold on now, the government shouldn't do that'.

If this came down to any sort of regular practice of the government going after private businesses for political differences- no matter the politics of either player, I and many others would stand against the government, even if it means standing beside someone who we oppose politically. A much, much bigger issue is at stake here which is the use of the federal government as a political weapon against private businesses/citizens.

We opposed it when Obama did it, we should oppose it when Trump does it.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: ABX on June 25, 2018, 05:16:46 pm
But what Trump did is the equivalent of a fan running onto the field because of a bad call.

This would be more like the club owner using his power in rigging a game against a team.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: RoosGirl on June 25, 2018, 05:17:54 pm
That right there, in bold, is exactly what most oppose.

Many Conservatives went from disliking the restaurant and joining boycotts (and even mob comments) to suddenly saying 'hold on now, the government shouldn't do that'.

If this came down to any sort of regular practice of the government going after private businesses for political differences- no matter the politics of either player, I and many others would stand against the government, even if it means standing beside someone who we oppose politically. A much, much bigger issue is at stake here which is the use of the federal government as a political weapon against private businesses/citizens.

We opposed it when Obama did it, we should oppose it when Trump does it.

It's the same thing as Trump going after Amazon.  It's becoming a pattern.  It's all fine now because it's only against liberals.  So far...
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: ABX on June 25, 2018, 05:21:04 pm
It's the same thing as Trump going after Amazon.  It's becoming a pattern.  It's all fine now because it's only against liberals.  So far...

The problem is so many are caught up in the 'us versus them' game, hey sidestep the issue of the government doing this in the first place. Some just want the government to beat political opponents into submission.

Most of us (I hope) don't want a government that powerful at all.

A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have.

What you let them get away with now, will be used against you in the future. That's how it always goes.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: thackney on June 25, 2018, 05:24:07 pm
No it was like Woody Hayes run on the field to tackle a player.

These are the type of leaders I want to play for.

Go Bucks!

Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 25, 2018, 05:24:29 pm
No it was like Woody Hayes run on the field to tackle a player.

These are the type of leaders I want to play for.

Woody got sacked.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: edpc on June 25, 2018, 05:27:14 pm
No it was like Woody Hayes run on the field to tackle a player.

These are the type of leaders I want to play for.


Tiger throat punch got him canned and made him a pariah everywhere but Columbus.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: ABX on June 25, 2018, 05:27:38 pm
Woody got sacked.

His team lost too (Ohio lost to Clemson 15-17). So that few seconds of emotional outburst cost him his job and he didn't even get a victory.

How is that like someone we want to follow?
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: XenaLee on June 25, 2018, 05:28:09 pm
The problem is so many are caught up in the 'us versus them' game, hey sidestep the issue of the government doing this in the first place. Some just want the government to beat political opponents into submission.

Most of us (I hope) don't want a government that powerful at all.

A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have.

What you let them get away with now, will be used against you in the future. That's how it always goes.

We're already there.  Just ask Flynn.  Oh sure, they didn't come and physically take everything he has... but they made it necessary for him to give up his family's future economic security.... all with the ultimate aim just to "get Trump".  If government (the FBI) can do it to him, they could do it to all or any of us.  Right now.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/06/michael-flynn-selling-home-to-pay-for-legal-fees-after-pleading-guilty-in-trump-probe.html (http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/06/michael-flynn-selling-home-to-pay-for-legal-fees-after-pleading-guilty-in-trump-probe.html)
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: edpc on June 25, 2018, 05:29:48 pm
(Ohio lost to Clemons 15-17)


Clarence?


(https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/jHEA2VxzNXGtNYlO3uGmDg--~B/YXBwaWQ9eWlzZWFyY2g7Zmk9Zml0O2dlPTAwNjYwMDtncz0wMEEzMDA7aD00MDA7dz02MDA-/http://static.spin.com/files/130307-clarence-clemons.jpg.cf.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: WingNot on June 25, 2018, 05:30:33 pm
Woody got sacked.


Not for that.  He got canned for punching Charlie Bauman.  Woody got screwed on that one.   
A travesty of justice
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: txradioguy on June 25, 2018, 05:31:47 pm
No it was like Woody Hayes run on the field to tackle a player.

These are the type of leaders I want to play for.

You want to play for an undisciplined leader with anger management issues who'd already been warned about physical violence on the sideline?

Hayes was rightfully sacked after that game and never coached again.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: skeeter on June 25, 2018, 05:32:59 pm

Clarence?


Yep.

And from the coastline to the city all the little pretties raised their hands.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Suppressed on June 25, 2018, 05:33:29 pm
No it was like Woody Hayes run on the field to tackle a player.

These are the type of leaders I want to play for.

More like the Stanford Marching Band...

(https://media.npr.org/programs/day/features/2007/nov/play540-2eafd38a4d10576993a780f182d624a13ba27031.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: ABX on June 25, 2018, 05:33:30 pm

Clarence?


(https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/jHEA2VxzNXGtNYlO3uGmDg--~B/YXBwaWQ9eWlzZWFyY2g7Zmk9Zml0O2dlPTAwNjYwMDtncz0wMEEzMDA7aD00MDA7dz02MDA-/http://static.spin.com/files/130307-clarence-clemons.jpg.cf.jpg)

LOL, I'm getting bad about typos lately.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: edpc on June 25, 2018, 05:34:43 pm
LOL, I'm getting bad about typos lately.


Autocorrect always gets me, if I'm on my iPhone.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: WingNot on June 25, 2018, 05:35:57 pm
You want to play for an undisciplined leader with anger management issues who'd already been warned about physical violence on the sideline?


Hell Yeah.   I talked to guys who played at OU back then and  everybody who played for Woody probably got slugged in the stomach or slapped. It was the era.  The old sage was: "If you spent four years at Ohio State and Woody didn't hit you, you felt cheated!"
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: INVAR on June 25, 2018, 05:37:18 pm
We opposed it when Obama did it, we should oppose it when Trump does it.

Conservatives SHOULD - but ForeverTrump® won't because.... they like that "HE FIGHTS!"

Never mind the fact that we are going frightfully fast from a cold war with Leftists and Statists in the GOP to an open hot war being stoked by everyone.

Bloodbaths are not pretty.  But that it seems is where this train is wanting to go.

Sadly when both the Communists/Marxists and the Trump Populists are inciting payback and mayhem - neither has any justifiable cause to support.  We simply go the route France went in the very late 1700s.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: edpc on June 25, 2018, 05:42:12 pm
Sadly when both the Communists/Marxists and the Trump Populists are inciting payback and mayhem - neither has any justifiable cause to support.  We simply go the route France went in the very late 1700s.


(https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/8vzbj0Tyh8z9g_7BUwz6Vw--~B/YXBwaWQ9eWlzZWFyY2g7Zmk9Zml0O2dlPTAwNjYwMDtncz0wMEEzMDA7aD00MDA7dz03NjI-/https://www.thepoke.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/trump_forever_thumb.jpg.cf.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: rustynail on June 25, 2018, 05:42:12 pm
Wait till Trump's response to Maxine Waters.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: ABX on June 25, 2018, 05:47:08 pm
Wait till Trump's response to Maxine Waters.

At least she is a public, government figure, and not a private business.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Suppressed on June 25, 2018, 05:53:11 pm
At least she is a public, government figure, and not a private business.

So?  He's above the law, so that's irrelevant.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Machiavelli on June 25, 2018, 06:09:26 pm

(https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/8vzbj0Tyh8z9g_7BUwz6Vw--~B/YXBwaWQ9eWlzZWFyY2g7Zmk9Zml0O2dlPTAwNjYwMDtncz0wMEEzMDA7aD00MDA7dz03NjI-/https://www.thepoke.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/trump_forever_thumb.jpg.cf.jpg)

 :silly:
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: ABX on June 25, 2018, 06:09:39 pm
So?  He's above the law, so that's irrelevant.

(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/250x250/59121918/the-law-i-am-the-law.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: INVAR on June 25, 2018, 06:11:16 pm
(https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/250x250/59121918/the-law-i-am-the-law.jpg)

Yup.  I remember.

(https://swordattheready.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/judgetrumpp.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: ABX on June 25, 2018, 06:13:02 pm
I noticed Saturday, one of the 'wrong' 'Red Hen' restaurants had about 30 thousand comments on the top two posts. They pulled their page down on Sunday.

Even a pub in Ireland with the same name was getting slammed with comments.

Quote
Confused Pro-Trump protestors go after the wrong Red Hen restaurant

As soon as the story broke that a Virginia restaurant refused service to White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders, you knew the blowback was coming. 
But some of the Trump administration supporters fighting back with nastiness are getting a bit confused, mistaking other restaurants for the one Sanders attempted to dine at on Friday....

https://www.yahoo.com/news/confused-pro-trump-protestors-wrong-154337250.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/confused-pro-trump-protestors-wrong-154337250.html)


Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: txradioguy on June 25, 2018, 06:35:13 pm
Some more background on why Sarah got the boot.

Quote
Stephanie Wilkinson, co-owner of The Red Hen restaurant in Lexington, Va., told The Washington Post on Saturday that Sanders's support of President Trump's desire to ban transgender people from the military, in particular, was antithetical to her beliefs. 
The restaurant employs several LGBT employees, Wilkinson said, some of whom voiced concerns over serving Sanders because of her previous comments defending Trump's proposed ban.

<snip>

Wilkinson told the Post Sanders worked in an administration that is "inhumane and unethical."

She added that the Trump administration's policy of separating migrant families who are apprehended illegally entering the U.S. also contributed to her staff's concerns.

That practice, part of Trump's "zero tolerance" policy, was halted by the president after ongoing backlash prompted him to reverse his administration's position and sign an executive order to keep migrant families together. 

“Tell me what you want me to do. I can ask her to leave,” Wilkinson said she told her staff. “They said yes.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/393810-restaurant-owner-i-threw-out-sarah-sanders-over-her-defense-of (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/393810-restaurant-owner-i-threw-out-sarah-sanders-over-her-defense-of)

Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: WingNot on June 25, 2018, 06:39:25 pm
Some more background on why Sarah got the boot.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/393810-restaurant-owner-i-threw-out-sarah-sanders-over-her-defense-of (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/393810-restaurant-owner-i-threw-out-sarah-sanders-over-her-defense-of)

That was thin.  Thin as piss on a flat rock in Lubbock during August.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: txradioguy on June 25, 2018, 06:40:37 pm
That was thin.  Thin as piss on a flat rock in Lubbock during August.

Pure 110% political in motivation.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 25, 2018, 06:49:10 pm
So she asked her gay employees what to do, and she obeyed them, exercising not a whit of executive authority.  Probably thought running her kitchen like a democracy is a good idea.  Still does.  I wonder if she runs her yarn company the same way?
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: XenaLee on June 25, 2018, 06:53:31 pm
Conservatives SHOULD - but ForeverTrump® won't because.... they like that "HE FIGHTS!"

Never mind the fact that we are going frightfully fast from a cold war with Leftists and Statists in the GOP to an open hot war being stoked by everyone.

Bloodbaths are not pretty.  But that it seems is where this train is wanting to go.

Sadly when both the Communists/Marxists and the Trump Populists are inciting payback and mayhem - neither has any justifiable cause to support.  We simply go the route France went in the very late 1700s.

And meanwhile..... apparently most on the the Trump side are not bright enough to discern that they are playing right into the anarchist radical left's paws..... since chaos, violence and even another civil war is exactly what they want.   America, a wonderful idea but failed experiment.....doomed by sheer stupidity.   Sad, really.



Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: XenaLee on June 25, 2018, 06:54:55 pm
So she asked her gay employees what to do, and she obeyed them, exercising not a whit of executive authority.  Probably thought running her kitchen like a democracy is a good idea.  Still does.  I wonder if she runs her yarn company the same way?

She's a leftie.  She never thinks.  She emotes.  It's how they roll.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: edpc on June 25, 2018, 07:00:02 pm
Sadly when both the Communists/Marxists and the Trump Populists are inciting payback and mayhem - neither has any justifiable cause to support.  We simply go the route France went in the very late 1700s.


Looks like we’re starting in off 1990s banana republic mode.


The public shaming of party officials is more closely associated with Latin American politics. Last year, Venezuelan expatriates in South Florida engaged in what they called a “social media manhunt” of officials with ties to the regime, chanting them out of diners. The protest confrontations have been traced back to what were called “escraches” in the 1990s in Argentina, where victims of the former military dictatorship accosted their accused torturers in public confrontations.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/25/liberals-attack-bondi-sanders-trump-667934 (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/25/liberals-attack-bondi-sanders-trump-667934)
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: WingNot on June 25, 2018, 07:03:48 pm
She's a leftie.  She never thinks.  She emotes. 

Is that when they lose their feathers?
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: XenaLee on June 25, 2018, 07:22:23 pm
Is that when they lose their feathers?

No, you're thinking molts.   But it probably results in the same type of shedding (brain cells).
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Hoodat on June 25, 2018, 08:07:22 pm
LOL!  And the difference is?

One refers to gender while the other refers to one's sexual preference.  The two are not the same.  There are homosexuals who marry persons of the opposite gender, and there are heterosexual persons who marry persons of the same gender.


No, I just don't have your imaginative interpretation.

Here it is for the fifth time:

In July 2012, Craig and Mullins visited Masterpiece, a bakery
in Lakewood, Colorado, and requested that Phillips design and
create a cake to celebrate their same-sex wedding. Phillips
declined, telling them that he does not create wedding cakes for
same-sex weddings because of his religious beliefs, but advising
Craig and Mullins that he would be happy to make and sell them
any other baked goods
. Craig and Mullins promptly left
Masterpiece without discussing with Phillips any details of their
wedding cake. The following day, Craig’s mother, Deborah Munn,
called Phillips, who advised her that Masterpiece did not make
wedding cakes for same-sex weddings
because of his religious
beliefs and because Colorado did not recognize same-sex marriages.

https://www.courts.state.co.us/Courts/Court_of_Appeals/Opinion/2015/14CA1351-PD.pdf (https://www.courts.state.co.us/Courts/Court_of_Appeals/Opinion/2015/14CA1351-PD.pdf)
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: WingNot on June 25, 2018, 08:09:57 pm
No, you're thinking molts.   But it probably results in the same type of shedding (brain cells).

Thank you.  Had a senior moment! 
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: RedHead on June 25, 2018, 08:13:32 pm
One refers to gender while the other refers to one's sexual preference.  The two are not the same.  There are homosexuals who marry persons of the opposite gender, and there are heterosexual persons who marry persons of the same gender.

So which one is the gay wedding and which is the same-sex wedding?

Here it is for the fifth time:

In July 2012, Craig and Mullins visited Masterpiece, a bakery
in Lakewood, Colorado, and requested that Phillips design and
create a cake to celebrate their same-sex wedding. Phillips
declined, telling them that he does not create wedding cakes for
same-sex weddings because of his religious beliefs, but advising
Craig and Mullins that he would be happy to make and sell them
any other baked goods
. Craig and Mullins promptly left
Masterpiece without discussing with Phillips any details of their
wedding cake. The following day, Craig’s mother, Deborah Munn,
called Phillips, who advised her that Masterpiece did not make
wedding cakes for same-sex weddings
because of his religious
beliefs and because Colorado did not recognize same-sex marriages.

https://www.courts.state.co.us/Courts/Court_of_Appeals/Opinion/2015/14CA1351-PD.pdf (https://www.courts.state.co.us/Courts/Court_of_Appeals/Opinion/2015/14CA1351-PD.pdf)

Still not seeing it.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Hoodat on June 25, 2018, 08:28:24 pm
So which one is the gay wedding and which is the same-sex wedding?

A same-sex wedding is where two people of the same gender marry each other.  I personally know two males who did exactly that.  Neither is homosexual.  Both like women and continue to date women.  But they agreed to get married (in California) so that one could enroll in the other one's insurance plan.   Such a marriage was deemed not to be recognized  by the State of California per its own Constitution.  But some black-robed tyrant decided otherwise.

As for 'gay wedding', I am not sure what you mean by that.  To me, the word 'gay' means annoyingly immature.  But seeing how sexual preference is exactly that, a preference, then it is entirely plausible for one to consider him/herself of having one sexual preference at one moment, and an entirely different sexual preference at another.


Still not seeing it.

Clearly intentional.


Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: INVAR on June 25, 2018, 10:47:15 pm
So which one is the gay wedding and which is the same-sex wedding?

Still not seeing it.

Irrelevant.

I discriminate against both with extreme prejudice.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: txradioguy on June 25, 2018, 11:31:57 pm
So which one is the gay wedding and which is the same-sex wedding?

Still not seeing it.

Of course you don't.

Bless your heart.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: corbe on June 25, 2018, 11:47:11 pm
   It appears Infrastructure Monday has been off, again.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: 240B on June 26, 2018, 12:55:29 am
A same-sex wedding is where two people of the same gender marry each other.  I personally know two males who did exactly that.  Neither is homosexual.  Both like women and continue to date women.  But they agreed to get married (in California) so that one could enroll in the other one's insurance plan.   Such a marriage was deemed not to be recognized  by the State of California per its own Constitution.  But some black-robed tyrant decided otherwise.

As for 'gay wedding', I am not sure what you mean by that.  To me, the word 'gay' means annoyingly immature.  But seeing how sexual preference is exactly that, a preference, then it is entirely plausible for one to consider him/herself of having one sexual preference at one moment, and an entirely different sexual preference at another.


Clearly intentional.


@Hoodat
(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSpVQ_zXoGpA9efIEiKf2OlKd6Pk-q1CnAMacf3RDK0RV3_dtet)
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: aligncare on June 26, 2018, 01:13:10 am
I see the Trump critics here have made up their minds without knowing all the facts.

Sanders didn’t  ‘go after a private company’ at all. That’s nonsense. In fact she said nothing about the incident until a waiter at the restaurant tweeted about it. That’s when and where she responded, not in an official capacity, but as a private citizen.

Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: RoosGirl on June 26, 2018, 01:18:22 am
I see the Trump critics here have made up their minds without knowing all the facts.

Sanders didn’t  ‘go after a private company’ at all. That’s nonsense. In fact she said nothing about the incident until a waiter at the restaurant tweeted about it. That’s when and where she responded, not in an official capacity, but as a private citizen.

Did she use her private Twitter account or her WH Twitter account?  Anyway, I see more of a problem with Trump getting involved in any way than Sarah commenting on what happened to her.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: edpc on June 26, 2018, 01:19:37 am
Sanders didn’t  ‘go after a private company’ at all. That’s nonsense. In fact she said nothing about the incident until a waiter at the restaurant tweeted about it. That’s when and where she responded, not in an official capacity, but as a private citizen.


Your response can't be considered as a private citizen, if it's from the official press secretary account - especially when she has a private twitter account.  Nevertheless, all she did was state what occurred and didn't do anything wrong.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: WingNot on June 26, 2018, 01:20:27 am
Did she use her private Twitter account or her WH Twitter account?  Anyway, I see more of a problem with Trump getting involved in any way than Sarah commenting on what happened to her.

Why.  What difference does it make.  Leave the Trump thing out of the conversation.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: XenaLee on June 26, 2018, 01:22:30 am
Why.  What difference does it make.  Leave the Trump thing out of the conversation.

No.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: WingNot on June 26, 2018, 01:23:14 am
No.

No what? 
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: RoosGirl on June 26, 2018, 01:23:46 am
Why.  What difference does it make.  Leave the Trump thing out of the conversation.

LOL  The article is about Trump.

Why?  Because I don't want an Obama sticking his nose in to "punish" a private business either.  And in general I believe a private business should be able to refuse service to anyone for any reason.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: edpc on June 26, 2018, 01:23:46 am
Why.  What difference does it make.  Leave the Trump thing out of the conversation.


Come on, man.  He inserted himself with the 'dirty windows' and 'paint job' nonsense.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: INVAR on June 26, 2018, 01:26:16 am
No what?

The lady said no.  And no is no.

Unless it really means yes - and then until men become clairvoyant to read women's minds - we must simply accept the fact that no means no and get screamed at for not being sensitive enough to be able to read their minds.


That said - the idea to leave Trump out of this thread is LUDICROUS since it is about TRUMP'S TWEET that HE MADE!
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: WingNot on June 26, 2018, 01:26:58 am

Come on, man.  He inserted himself with the 'dirty windows' and 'paint job' nonsense.

So, you can't separate one thing from another?  I thought you were better than that shit.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: edpc on June 26, 2018, 01:35:05 am
So, you can't separate one thing from another?  I thought you were better than that shit.


Sure I can.  Up until the point he tweeted about it, I didn't bring him up.  However, now that he's chimed in as POTUS, whose words do you think has more weight in the public arena?
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: corbe on June 26, 2018, 01:39:07 am
                    Yall need to chill  

(https://ruinmyweek.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/funny-video-funny-videos-funny-vid-funny-vids-bob-ross-painting-trumps-hair.png)
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: WingNot on June 26, 2018, 01:41:49 am

Sure I can.  Up until the point he tweeted about it, I didn't bring him up.  However, now that he's chimed in as POTUS, whose words do you think has more weight in the public arena?

This thread has been dancing all over the place on the subject.  So, you dig in on your points, and I will dig in mine.  Who's words do you think will have more weight in the public arena?
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: goodwithagun on June 26, 2018, 01:42:25 am

Come on, man.  He inserted himself with the 'dirty windows' and 'paint job' nonsense.

For what are “dirty windows” and “paint job” innuendo?
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: XenaLee on June 26, 2018, 01:43:54 am
No what?

No, we won't leave Trump out of it, as long as he insists on putting himself into it.  (duh)
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: edpc on June 26, 2018, 01:47:59 am
This thread has been dancing all over the place on the subject.  So, you dig in on your points, and I will dig in mine.  Who's words do you think will have more weight in the public arena?


Yours, obviously.  I can't compete with someone who has this tattoo....


(https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/U.di1LvB8lkRS5CgmKA7Hw--~B/YXBwaWQ9eWlzZWFyY2g7Zmk9Zml0O2dlPTAwNjYwMDtncz0wMEEzMDA7aD0yNjk7dz01MDA-/http://www.tattoodesigns24.com/tattoopics/location_language/latino/latino_tattoo_20.jpg.cf.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: RoosGirl on June 26, 2018, 01:49:39 am
This thread has been dancing all over the place on the subject.  So, you dig in on your points, and I will dig in mine.  Who's words do you think will have more weight in the public arena?

No one cares what us ticks have to say.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: XenaLee on June 26, 2018, 01:53:40 am

Yours, obviously.  I can't compete with someone who has this tattoo....


(https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/U.di1LvB8lkRS5CgmKA7Hw--~B/YXBwaWQ9eWlzZWFyY2g7Zmk9Zml0O2dlPTAwNjYwMDtncz0wMEEzMDA7aD0yNjk7dz01MDA-/http://www.tattoodesigns24.com/tattoopics/location_language/latino/latino_tattoo_20.jpg.cf.jpg)

Oh sure.... it's great now.  But wait a few/ten years!

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/0e/54/32/0e543285530ca291f94e8b8ba3141363.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: corbe on June 26, 2018, 01:54:33 am
   Haven't we already done the tick thing to death, can we please move on to other swamp creatures?

(https://i.imgflip.com/24554e.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: edpc on June 26, 2018, 02:00:23 am
Oh sure.... it's great now.  But wait a few/ten years!


Wait until they start telling you stories....


(https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/VQ44wC6dUktf7.tjjjkqfQ--~B/YXBwaWQ9eWlzZWFyY2g7Zmk9Zml0O2dlPTAwNjYwMDtncz0wMEEzMDA7aD03MDA7dz00MDA-/http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FDLTwXWRLRI/T331rx3If2I/AAAAAAAABFI/Y6V1veUHoxU/s1600/illustrated_man.jpg.cf.jpg)
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 26, 2018, 02:01:23 am
@corbe

Swamp Tsetse Flies?
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: goodwithagun on June 26, 2018, 02:03:13 am
No one cares what us ticks have to say.

Changed my profile pic!
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: XenaLee on June 26, 2018, 02:04:51 am

Wait until they start telling you stories....


(https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/VQ44wC6dUktf7.tjjjkqfQ--~B/YXBwaWQ9eWlzZWFyY2g7Zmk9Zml0O2dlPTAwNjYwMDtncz0wMEEzMDA7aD03MDA7dz00MDA-/http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FDLTwXWRLRI/T331rx3If2I/AAAAAAAABFI/Y6V1veUHoxU/s1600/illustrated_man.jpg.cf.jpg)

I loved that flick.  It was a bit odd at the time .... but then...

so was I (hey, it was the groovy era!).
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: WingNot on June 26, 2018, 02:05:28 am

Yours, obviously.  I can't compete with someone who has this tattoo....


(https://s.yimg.com/lo/api/res/1.2/U.di1LvB8lkRS5CgmKA7Hw--~B/YXBwaWQ9eWlzZWFyY2g7Zmk9Zml0O2dlPTAwNjYwMDtncz0wMEEzMDA7aD0yNjk7dz01MDA-/http://www.tattoodesigns24.com/tattoopics/location_language/latino/latino_tattoo_20.jpg.cf.jpg)

Jay North has your tat?  I am impressed!   :laugh:

That's a joke son.  Jay North was Dennis The Menace.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: DCPatriot on June 26, 2018, 02:05:43 am
Why.  What difference does it make.  Leave the Trump thing out of the conversation.

For some people....impossible.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: DCPatriot on June 26, 2018, 02:09:03 am

Come on, man.  He inserted himself with the 'dirty windows' and 'paint job' nonsense.

Oh, for God's sake, man.  STOP!

What he said was true.   The owner/proprietor made a decision whereby 50% of the country aren't wanted.

Good luck.

This won't have a Chick-fil-A ending.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: edpc on June 26, 2018, 02:10:19 am
Jay North has your tat?  I am impressed!   :laugh:

That's a joke son.  Jay North was Dennis The Menace.


Yep, used to watch the reruns when TVs had 3 networks and rabbit ears.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: WingNot on June 26, 2018, 02:11:04 am
For some people....impossible.

My wife saw me standing next to the kitchen wall banging my head against it.  She asked me why.  I told her I was reading TBR and it feels so good when I stop.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: XenaLee on June 26, 2018, 02:12:22 am
For some people....impossible.

Some people.... which includes Trump, himself..... in fact.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: corbe on June 26, 2018, 02:21:26 am
   Maybe if we just talked about the fact that this restaurant has dirty windows, canopies and needs a paint job the Trumpers wouldn't get so pizzy.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: edpc on June 26, 2018, 02:25:22 am
Maybe if we just talked about the fact that this restaurant has dirty windows, canopies and needs a paint job the Trumpers wouldn't get so pizzy.


They can save on the cost of repainting by calling it The Magenta Hen.
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: XenaLee on June 26, 2018, 02:31:43 am

They can save on the cost of repainting by calling it The Magenta Hen.

Maybe Mad Maxine can get a job renovating it after they kick her out of office...?  (dreaming again)
Title: Re: Trump: 'Dirty' restaurant that refused to serve Sanders 'needs a paint job'
Post by: goodwithagun on June 26, 2018, 02:37:47 am
Maybe Mad Maxine can get a job renovating it after they kick her out of office...?  (dreaming again)

Nah. Even though she’d (for the first time in her life) be working a real job for real money, she’d accuse you of calling her a yard (fill in the blank with the word most pro athletes call each other.)