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Title: Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say
Post by: mystery-ak on July 01, 2023, 05:42:54 pm
Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say
Andrew Feinberg


The Department of Justice is prepared to seek indictments against multiple figures in former president Donald Trump’s orbit and may yet bring additional charges against the ex-president in the coming weeks, The Independent has learned.

According to sources familiar with the matter, the department has made preparations to bring what is known as a “superseding indictment” — a second set of charges against an already-indicted defendant that could include more serious crimes — against the ex-president in the Southern District of Florida.

But prosecutors may also choose to bring additional charges against Mr Trump in a different venue, depending on how they feel the case they have brought against him in is proceeding.

The Independent understands that prosecutors’ decision on whether to seek additional charges from a grand jury — and where to seek them — will depend in part on whether they feel the Trump-appointed district judge overseeing the case against him in the Southern District of Florida, Aileen Cannon, is giving undue deference to the twice-impeached, now twice-indicted former president.

The team of federal prosecutors working under Special Counsel Jack Smith is currently prepared to add an “additional 30 to 45 charges” in addition to the 37-count indictment brought against Mr Trump on 8 June, either in a superseding indictment in the same Florida court or in a different federal judicial district. In either case, they would do so using evidence against the ex-president that has not yet been publicly acknowledged by the department, including other recordings prosecutors have obtained which reveal Mr Trump making incriminating statements.

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Title: Re: Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say
Post by: libertybele on July 01, 2023, 05:51:38 pm
Bring charges against Trump in a different venue?  What the heck is that supposed to mean???

It's never going to end.  **nononono*
Title: Re: Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say
Post by: Bigun on July 01, 2023, 05:52:46 pm
Of course! The death by a thousand cuts strategy! And the government has much more money with which to play that game than even Donald Trump! They don't have to actually win a single case to inflict major damage.
Title: Re: Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on July 06, 2023, 09:17:35 pm
It's open judge-shopping by the DOJ.  Nice.
Title: Re: Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say
Post by: cato potatoe on July 07, 2023, 01:57:30 am
Bring charges against Trump in a different venue?  What the heck is that supposed to mean???

From what I understand, since Donald shipped the classified documents to New Jersey, and the infamous recording happened there, the proper venue for related charges may be in that state.  His attorneys may request the charges be consolidated (not sure of the proper legal term) into Fort Pierce.
Title: Re: Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on July 07, 2023, 02:23:15 am
From what I understand, since Donald shipped the classified documents to New Jersey, and the infamous recording happened there, the proper venue for related charges may be in that state.  His attorneys may request the charges be consolidated (not sure of the proper legal term) into Fort Pierce.

They knew all of that before they filed in Florida.  It's judge-shopping.
Title: Re: Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on July 07, 2023, 02:56:43 am
Spreading the prosecutions across multiple jurisdictions diversifies prosecutorial risk.  That way, one whacky judge or one hung jury can't derail the entire effort.
Title: Re: Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say
Post by: Hoodat on July 07, 2023, 03:00:49 am
From what I understand, since Donald shipped the classified documents to New Jersey, and the infamous [audio] recording happened there, the proper venue for related charges may be in that state.

Good luck with that since no one is able to produce those documents.
Title: Re: Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on July 07, 2023, 11:17:06 am
They're really determined to get him reelected aren't they?
Title: Re: Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on July 07, 2023, 04:03:17 pm
They're really determined to get him reelected aren't they?

You mean "re-nominated".
Title: Re: Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say
Post by: Kamaji on July 07, 2023, 04:05:04 pm
You mean "re-nominated".

Of course they are, because they are pretty sure he'll lose the general election.
Title: Re: Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say
Post by: Weird Tolkienish Figure on July 07, 2023, 04:06:15 pm
Of course they are, because they are pretty sure he'll lose the general election.

IMO this sort of never ending lawfare will actually help him in that regard. Of course, Biden has already won once, he can certainly do it again.
Title: Re: Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say
Post by: Kamaji on July 07, 2023, 04:08:03 pm
IMO this sort of never ending lawfare will actually help him in that regard. Of course, Biden has already won once, he can certainly do it again.

Not sure how much it's going to help him with independents and people who don't eat, sleep, and breathe politics.
Title: Re: Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say
Post by: kevindavis007 on July 08, 2023, 04:40:38 pm
Not sure how much it's going to help him with independents and people who don't eat, sleep, and breathe politics.


I'm not sure how Trump is going to win without the GOP voters who will not vote for him let alone the independents and the people who don't eat, sleep, and breathe politics,
Title: Re: Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say
Post by: Kamaji on July 08, 2023, 04:41:31 pm

I'm not sure how Trump is going to win without the GOP voters who will not vote for him let alone the independents and the people who don't eat, sleep, and breathe politics,

Fair enough.  Agreed.
Title: Re: Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say
Post by: jmyrlefuller on July 09, 2023, 09:33:49 pm
Of course they are, because they are pretty sure he'll lose the general election.
The goal is something akin to the Todd Akin approach:

Let Trump coast to the nomination, then after the deadlines pass—and only then—disqualify him from the office. That way it's too late to replace him on the ballot, and you end up throwing the election into chaos.
Title: Re: Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say
Post by: Hoodat on July 09, 2023, 10:24:17 pm
The goal is something akin to the Todd Akin approach:

Let Trump coast to the nomination, then after the deadlines pass—and only then—disqualify him from the office. That way it's too late to replace him on the ballot, and you end up throwing the election into chaos.

It became obvious when CNN began running stories attacking DeSantis while defending Trump.
Title: Re: Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on July 09, 2023, 10:50:09 pm
Eventually the DOJ will build a wider ranging series of conspiracy cases, and possibly RICO.

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I hope Trump's attoneys are demanding payment, up front, in cash.
Title: Re: Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on July 10, 2023, 12:28:20 am
The goal is something akin to the Todd Akin approach:

Let Trump coast to the nomination, then after the deadlines pass—and only then—disqualify him from the office. That way it's too late to replace him on the ballot, and you end up throwing the election into chaos.

I'd bet a whole lot of money that any attempts to disqualify him from running for office will fail.