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Title: Jonathan Turley> Alvin Bragg has his Trump trial, all he needs now is a crime
Post by: mystery-ak on April 24, 2024, 02:50:48 pm
 Alvin Bragg has his Trump trial, all he needs now is a crime
By Social Links for Jonathan Turley
Published April 24, 2024, 3:38 a.m. ET

For many of us in the legal community, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s case against former President Donald Trump borders on the legally obscene: an openly political prosecution based on a theory even legal pundits dismiss. Yet Monday the prosecution seemed to actually make a case for obscenity.

It wasn’t the gratuitous introduction of an uncharged alleged tryst with a former Playboy Bunny or expected details on the relationship with an ex-porn star. It was the criminal theory itself that seemed crafted around the obscenity stan- dard Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart famously described in 1984’s Jacobellis v. Ohio: “I shall not today attempt further to define [it]. . . . But I know it when I see it.

The prosecution must show Trump falsified business records in “furtherance of another crime.” After months of confusion on just what crime underpinned the indictment, the prosecution offered a new theory so ambiguous and undefined, it would have made Justice Stewart blush.

Prosecutor Joshua Steinglass told the jury that in listing Stormy Daniels payments as a “legal expense,” Trump violated this New York law: “Any two or more persons who conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means and which conspiracy is acted upon by one or more of the parties thereto, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.”

So Trump committed a crime by conspiring to unlawfully promote his own candidacy, by paying to quash a potentially embarrassing story and then reimbursing his lawyer Michael Cohen with other legal expenses.

Confused? You are not alone.

It’s not a crime to pay for the nondisclosure of an alleged affair. It’s also not a federal election offense (the other underlying crime Bragg alleges) to pay such money as a personal or legal expense. Federal law doesn’t treat it as a political contribution to yourself.

Yet somehow the characterization of this payment as a legal expense is an illegal conspiracy to promote one’s own candidacy in New York.

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https://nypost.com/2024/04/24/opinion/alvin-bragg-has-his-trump-trial-all-he-needs-now-is-a-crime/
Title: Re: Jonathan Turley> Alvin Bragg has his Trump trial, all he needs now is a crime
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on April 24, 2024, 03:20:46 pm
I think Bragg is going after the totality of the alleged crimes, similar to RICO or conspiracy.  I think Bragg's strategy is to prove that criminal conspiracy is greater than the sum of the underlying crimes.  Many smalls crimes (book keeping) were committed in furtherance of more significant crimes (fraud).
Title: Re: Jonathan Turley> Alvin Bragg has his Trump trial, all he needs now is a crime
Post by: Bigun on April 24, 2024, 04:09:38 pm
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Why do politicians sling mud?

Because it sticks!
Title: Re: Jonathan Turley> Alvin Bragg has his Trump trial, all he needs now is a crime
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 24, 2024, 04:31:18 pm
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Title: Re: Jonathan Turley> Alvin Bragg has his Trump trial, all he needs now is a crime
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 24, 2024, 04:40:24 pm
It looks like Bragg is attempting to prove crimes he did not charge Trump for.  Merchan will happily let Bragg get away with it.
Title: Re: Jonathan Turley> Alvin Bragg has his Trump trial, all he needs now is a crime
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 24, 2024, 04:48:01 pm
It looks like Bragg is attempting to prove crimes he did not charge Trump for.  Merchan will happily let Bragg get away with it.

To say I'm outraged diminishes what I'm feeling at this point.  I do not understand how this is allowed to continue  :#@$%:
Title: Re: Jonathan Turley> Alvin Bragg has his Trump trial, all he needs now is a crime
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 24, 2024, 05:12:52 pm
To say I'm outraged diminishes what I'm feeling at this point.  I do not understand how this is allowed to continue  :#@$%:

Dittos.   9999hair out0000

And the intended audience is lapping it up like a cat will lap up anti-freeze.
Title: Re: Jonathan Turley> Alvin Bragg has his Trump trial, all he needs now is a crime
Post by: rustynail on April 24, 2024, 05:17:54 pm
I think Bragg is going after the totality of the alleged crimes, similar to RICO or conspiracy.  I think Bragg's strategy is to prove that criminal conspiracy is greater than the sum of the underlying crimes.  Many smalls crimes (book keeping) were committed in furtherance of more significant crimes (fraud).

Please cite the statutes..
Title: Re: Jonathan Turley> Alvin Bragg has his Trump trial, all he needs now is a crime
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 24, 2024, 05:23:22 pm
Newt Gingrich
@newtgingrich

The cost of Trump’s New York trial should be charged to the Biden presidential campaign! It is all politics and no law.

7:41 AM · Apr 24, 2024
Title: Re: Jonathan Turley> Alvin Bragg has his Trump trial, all he needs now is a crime
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 24, 2024, 05:32:10 pm
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Stephen Miller
@StephenM

This is not a trial. This is a Biden-Democrat SHOW TRIAL. Merchan (Biden donor), like so many other Democrat judges in anti-GOP prosecutions, is forbidding the defense from defending their innocent client. A Democrat judge and prosecutor hiding evidence from a Democrat jury.

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9:21 AM · Apr 24, 2024