The Briefing Room
General Category => Elections 2024 => Topic started by: Timber Rattler on December 04, 2022, 01:08:59 am
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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022/12/03/trump-suggests-termination-u-s-constitution-allowable-over-2020-twitter-scandal/
Former President Donald Trump suggested the “termination” of the United States Constitution could be allowable in response to the bombshell report that the Democrat Party colluded with Twitter to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story before the 2020 election.
The former president made his observation via his Truth Social account on Saturday following journalist Matt Taibbi’s thorough report on Twitter’s internal communications during the 2020 elections at the behest of newly-minted CEO Elon Musk.
“So, with the revelation of MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION in working closely with Big Tech Companies, the DNC, & the Democrat Party, do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION?” Trump said.
Putting the Founding Fathers in quotes — “Our Great ‘Founders'” — the president then essentially seemed to suggest the “termination” of the U.S. Constitution could be allowable.
“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. Our great ‘Founders’ did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!” he added.
Yep, he said it!
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/109449803240069864
So, with the revelation of MASSIVE & WIDESPREAD FRAUD & DECEPTION in working closely with Big Tech Companies, the DNC, & the Democrat Party, do you throw the Presidential Election Results of 2020 OUT and declare the RIGHTFUL WINNER, or do you have a NEW ELECTION? A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution. Our great “Founders” did not want, and would not condone, False & Fraudulent Elections!
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When the compact has been egregiously violated:
Less than fair elections with rules not determined by State Legislatures.
Free speech stifled by active censoring of information, primarily at the behest of, and benefit to one political Party.
Egregious violations of duly enacted election laws and procedures.
Failure to protect the States against invasion (in fact, the encouragement through policy and abetting of illegal immigration at unheard of levels).
Repeated attempts to undermine the Second, Fourth, Fifth, and Fourteenth Amendments, often successful.
Ignoring, in spirit and the letter of the law, the rulings of the SCOTUS.
etc.
Well, at what point when a contract is violated is that compact null and void?
He may have a point.
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When the compact has been egregiously violated:
Less than fair elections with rules not determined by State Legislatures.
Free speech stifled by active censoring of information, primarily at the behest of, and benefit to one political Party.
Egregious violations of duly enacted election laws and procedures.
Failure to protect the States against invasion (in fact, the encouragement through policy and abetting of illegal immigration at unheard of levels).
Repeated attempts to undermine the Second, Fourth, Fifth, and Fourteenth Amendments, often successful.
Ignoring, in spirit and the letter of the law, the rulings of the SCOTUS.
etc.
Well, at what point when a contract is violated is that compact null and void?
He may have a point.
Exactly! The socialists have already abandoned the constitution and the republicans are bringing the knife to the gunfight and getting killed trying to follow the rules.
Time to take the gloves off...
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That's not what he said. He's saying what they've done has made the Constitution null and void.
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Exactly! The socialists have already abandoned the constitution and the republicans are bringing the knife to the gunfight and getting killed trying to follow the rules.
Time to take the gloves off...
:yowsa: :amen:
I at first agreed, BUT the Constitution IS the law of our land and we MUST hold those sidestepping the Constitution and trampling on it accountable. I don't know how we are going to accomplish that with such a corrupt DOJ though.
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Seems I've heard that before.
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Yep, he said it!
Trump did no such thing, you damn 888mouth
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That's not what he said. He's saying what they've done has made the Constitution null and void.
:bingo:
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Exactly! The socialists have already abandoned the constitution and the republicans are bringing the knife to the gunfight and getting killed trying to follow the rules.
Time to take the gloves off...
So you're ready to abandon the Constitution too so that you can fight fire with fire?
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So you're ready to abandon the Constitution too so that you can fight fire with fire?
The government has already abandoned it, we have no choice.
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The government has already abandoned it, we have no choice.
Oh really? Then what do you propose to do about it, Ed?
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The Declaration of Independence is the inspired document that birthed our country and was the basis for a constitution that has stood the test of time. But, human nature has a way of upsetting the order of things.
The declaration clearly warns us that governments may become “destructive” of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness, and may require “the people” to “alter or to abolish” corrupted governments.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”
Trump did not say what the corporate media hinted he said. Read his tweet for heaven’s sake.
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Oh really? Then what do you propose to do about it, Ed?
So, correct me if I am wrong.... but you appear to think that the DOJ/FBI lying to the FISA court is constitutional?
That the DOJ/FBI fabricating documents in order to support a coup against Trump to overthrow a sitting president thru 2 illegally constituted impeachments as constitutional?
The sitting US Congress never fact checked any information and hid exculpatory evidence with the sole intent of overthrowing the President is constitutional?
Refusing to secure the borders but locking US citizens up for 2 years because of a "virus" is constitutional?
We are living in two different universes...
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The Declaration of Independence is the inspired document that birthed our country and was the basis for a constitution that has stood the test of time. But, human nature has a way of upsetting the order of things.
The declaration clearly warns us that governments may become “destructive” of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness, and may require “the people” to “alter or to abolish” corrupted governments.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.—That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”
Trump did not say what the corporate media hinted he said. Read his tweet for heaven’s sake.
The beginning of the Declaration of Independence I think makes things quite clear; 'When in the Course of Human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another ...."
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So you're ready to abandon the Constitution too so that you can fight fire with fire?
Nope, I am not. However, for those who have chosen to ignore MY rights under that compact, I just might be a smidgen less likely to let them hide behind it, as they so often do.
I am all for reinstating the agreement, and prosecuting every son (or daughter) of a bitch ("non-binaries", too) who has treated the law of the land like so much a$$wipe.
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So you're ready to abandon the Constitution too so that you can fight fire with fire?
NO, not abandon the Constitution but abandon the political ties and instituting a new government. Dissolving the current corruptness.
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So, correct me if I am wrong.... but you appear to think that the DOJ/FBI lying to the FISA court is constitutional?
That the DOJ/FBI fabricating documents in order to support a coup against Trump to overthrow a sitting president thru 2 illegally constituted impeachments as constitutional?
The sitting US Congress never fact checked any information and hid exculpatory evidence with the sole intent of overthrowing the President is constitutional?
Refusing to secure the borders but locking US citizens up for 2 years because of a "virus" is constitutional?
We are living in two different universes...
So what are you going to do about it, Ed?
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NO, not abandon the Constitution but abandon the political ties and instituting a new government. Dissolving the current corruptness.
So how are you going to do that?
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So how are you going to do that?
Not not 'me', but WE The People. Obviously leadership is needed. I can think of a few very qualified leaders to lead the way to form and implement a new government.
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So what are you going to do about it, Ed?
We are going to sit behind our keyboards and cry, piss, and moan. As usual.
"Liberty once lost is lost forever. When the People once surrender their share in the Legislature, and their Right of defending the Limitations upon the government, and of resisting every Encroachment upon them, they can never regain it."
John Adams,1775,
"Hold on, my friends, to the Constitution and to the Republic for which it stands. Miracles do not cluster and what has happened once in 6,000 years, may not happen again. Hold on to the Constitution, for if the American Constitution should fail, there will be anarchy throughout the world."
Daniel Webster, 1851
It's too bad we didn't listen.
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Do you honestly think that Trump won't start a 3rd party when HE deems his welcome in the GOP is less than lukewarm to satisfy his EGO, dooming us all to 4 years of Newsom?
I say good riddance to them both.
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If Donald is jealous of the attention Kanye has received, this is one way to win it back.
Some of y'all are going out on a limb. Trump wrote what he wrote. He made this same ludicrous demand a few months ago, and there's no point in defending him.
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:facepalm2:
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Of course, I could be wrong, and Trump will save all of US. yogi555
https://youtu.be/W2XyVuFRvzo (https://youtu.be/W2XyVuFRvzo)
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TOS has been hot on this topic.... the usual if you don't keep kissing Trump's butt crowd is still mustering all the bluster/threats they can to keep the rabble in line. This is something even Trump shouldn't remotely hint at and everyone knows it. Let the spin crowd tell us of course Trump didn't mean anything closely resembling what was reported. It is funny that Breitbart was the site that was one of the first to go "all out Trump" and is now being thrown under the bus.
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TOS has been hot on this topic.... the usual if you don't keep kissing Trump's butt crowd is still mustering all the bluster/threats they can to keep the rabble in line. This is something even Trump shouldn't remotely hint at and everyone knows it. Let the spin crowd tell us of course Trump didn't mean anything closely resembling what was reported. It is funny that Breitbart was the site that was one of the first to go "all out Trump" and is now being thrown under the bus.
He said what he said, and it is normal that different people will hear a different message. He's just pointing out that the Dems (and some of the 'pubbies) just are not honoring the very document they are sworn to support and protect.
If they will not go by the law, well, folks (and I predicted this), the rest of America has 'equal rights', too.
Either that's treason and the rules are enforced, or the agreement is null. YMMV.
It is much the same as the situation I observed on a smaller scale during the race riots in high school, when one demographic observed rules went unenforced when another demographic was not punished for egregious violations of the law, and decided they, too, had "equal rights".
Mayhem ensued.
The rules were again enforced, albeit not with the vigour they should have been, but order was restored, with K-9 units with dogs walking the halls in a 1200 student school and all but two doors chained and locked shut (in violation of the fire code).
Neither is pretty, but it is time America gets its feces consolidated and brings an end to the criminal nonsense, including that in the alleged enforcement agencies.
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Do you honestly think that Trump won't start a 3rd party when HE deems his welcome in the GOP is less than lukewarm to satisfy his EGO, dooming us all to 4 years of Newsom?
I say good riddance to them both.
Rather than form a third party (for which he hasn’t the knowledge or patience to gain ballot access) he may test the loyalty of this followers, in the mold of Jim Jones. He will claim that any primary he loses was “rigged” and tell everybody to stay home in the general election.
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Rather than form a third party (for which he hasn’t the knowledge or patience to gain ballot access) he may test the loyalty of this followers, in the mold of Jim Jones. He will claim that any primary he loses was “rigged” and tell everybody to stay home in the general election.
Thats' exactly what he will do, just like he did in Georgia in December 2020. And his brainwashed supporters there did exactly what he told them to do, stay home, which is how we ended up with Senator Warnock.
So how'd that work out for the country and the Republican Party? Trump cares only for himself and nobody else. His philosophy is that if it's good for Trump then it necessarily has to be good for everyone.
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I don’t see anything in his statement were he suggests termination of the US Constitution
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He said what he said, and it is normal that different people will hear a different message. He's just pointing out that the Dems (and some of the 'pubbies) just are not honoring the very document they are sworn to support and protect.
If they will not go by the law, well, folks (and I predicted this), the rest of America has 'equal rights', too.
Either that's treason and the rules are enforced, or the agreement is null. YMMV.
It is much the same as the situation I observed on a smaller scale during the race riots in high school, when one demographic observed rules went unenforced when another demographic was not punished for egregious violations of the law, and decided they, too, had "equal rights".
Mayhem ensued.
The rules were again enforced, albeit not with the vigour they should have been, but order was restored, with K-9 units with dogs walking the halls in a 1200 student school and all but two doors chained and locked shut (in violation of the fire code).
Neither is pretty, but it is time America gets its feces consolidated and brings an end to the criminal nonsense, including that in the alleged enforcement agencies.
:yowsa: I'm reminded of the company I once worked for which maintained a very large room full of books entitled "Engineering Standards" but whose project managers handed out reams of documents (Request for Waiver of Engineering Standard) to every contract engineer on site.
Why have them if you aren't going to enforce them?
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bleep loony tunes. This stupidity needs to stop.