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How Did Socialism Become So Popular in America?
By Joel Hilliker • April 24
America is a nation “conceived in liberty”—like no other nation in history! For hundreds of years, people from all over the world have come here for freedom: religious freedom, economic freedom, freedom of opportunity.
But something is destroying America’s unique liberty.
How is it that more and more Americans—especially younger Americans—are embracing socialism and communism? These ideologies are very different from those established by America’s founders. They are economic and political models that make this nation more and more like other nations—in Europe and elsewhere—and less and less like America.
https://www.thetrumpet.com/15721-how-did-socialism-become-so-popular-in-america/print
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FDR
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the founders knew that once the populace could vote themselves stuff or money, it was game over
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We allowed generation after generation of our kids be instructed by educators employed by the State.
We filled the nation with new arrivals from socialist countries.
We listened to politicians who promised us they'd solve our problems by taking from someone else.
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I agree with many of the points below.
So, when did this trend first begin? That's debatable depending on who you listen to. The fact of the matter is that socialism in America has never had this much momentum in its entire history. The real question is, why has America embraced socialism to the degree that it has?
In my opinion, I have concluded that many Americans, particularly those in the age group 18-29 and 30-44, are willing to trade their liberty for security.
It appears that more and more of this social group in the collegiate world are not dreaming of the next big IDEA or invention that will transform the world. It may be that we have seen the last of the Dells, Gates and Jobs. If there be any that arise they will soon succumb to the call of the socialists around them.
It appears that America has embraced socialism on the false premise that one can have liberty and security at the same time. Unfortunately, in the world of Millennials, anyone that desires or promotes personal liberty is a threat. Just take a look at today's college campus' and see for yourself what has happened to those with a different viewpoint.
This particular age group has been educated to believe what previous generations would never agree to because the lives and posterity of that previous generation were not dependent on a socialist mindset. What they acquired was done so by daring to dream, sheer determination and self-sacrifice when needed. The idea of obligating someone else to contribute to one's own success and prosperity was never considered.
http://www.americaextinct.com/has-america-embraced-socialism.html
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Agree with all above posters-all good points
Some of it was from allowing big corporations to run rough shod over the middle class. Offshoring tens of millions of high paying jobs, bring in HB- and replacing workers. People get pissed off and want someone to pay for items theycan no longer afford with their downsized paycheck pr from 3 p/t jobs.
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Question:
"How Did Socialism Become So Popular in America?"
Answer:
Because we insisted on shutting up guys like Joe McCarthy... who were right.
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Where is there any evidence that Socialism is taking over? I'm looking at these fake polls telling us everyone wants it, but when I look at election after election over the last 10 years on all levels, the people who are at least talking about freedom are winning while the people promising utopia are losing their ass.
Now what these freedom talking people actually get accomplished when they are in power is a different question. That is a matter of corruption.
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FDR
Sorry but no cigar! Abe Lincoln and moved greatly along by Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson.
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Where is there any evidence that Socialism is taking over? I'm looking at these fake polls telling us everyone wants it, but when I look at election after election over the last 10 years on all levels, the people who are at least talking about freedom are winning while the people promising utopia are losing their ass.
Now what these freedom talking people actually get accomplished when they are in power is a different question. That is a matter of corruption.
Sure enough, but thirty years ago the radical leftwing mess that passes today for the democrat party wouldn't pull 20% of the vote, let alone the ~49.5% it consistently gets today.
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Americans by and large have not embraced "socialism". But our social institutions and the keepers of our popular culture certainly have, especially insofar as they are frequently exempt from its worst financial consequences.
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Sorry but no cigar! Abe Lincoln and moved greatly along by Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson.
True enough they did grow government, but the idea that government should be handing out money to every Tom Dick and Harry was FDR. I guess maybe he should take the blame for leading us down the path to being a true welfare state.
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We've been slowly devolving from a Patriarchy to a Matriarchy since the end of WWI and especially after WWII.
Look at how society today looks at men and boys. Do we really wonder why they are so feminized and effeminate/emo anymore? The schools do their part to either drug or tear them down, and the media and entrainment just reinforce the stereotype of the stupid and untrustworthy male. Fathers are ridiculed and single mothers championed.
Socialism is a natural by-prduct of a Matriarchy where emotionalism rules logic rather than just men bent on raw power and control that force themselves into rulership. A Matriarchy gives itself over to Socialism willingly and by demand.
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We've been slowly devolving from a Patriarchy to a Matriarchy since the end of WWI and especially after WWII.
Look at how society today looks at men and boys. Do we really wonder why they are so feminized and effeminate/emo anymore? The schools do their part to either drug or tear them down, and the media and entrainment just reinforce the stereotype of the stupid and untrustworthy male. Fathers are ridiculed and single mothers championed.
Socialism is a natural by-prduct of a Matriarchy where emotionalism rules logic rather than just men bent on raw power and control that force themselves into rulership. A Matriarchy gives itself over to Socialism willingly and by demand.
Oh, please! Don't blame women for what we have become. Unless you want to admit (which I don't) that we're much, much more powerful than men.
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Simple.
Society promised a comfortable, middle-class living for those who went to school.
The problem was, there were never enough of those jobs to accommodate the rush of new college students, and on top of that, automation has increasingly cut away the good-paying working-class jobs that used to employ their parents and grandparents. Now all we have are human services jobs.
So, with a generation of people with a huge amount of debt, a worthless degree and no way to monetize it, we have a desperate throng looking anywhere to help them get out of this mess. They see rich people, and they see a target.
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One reason or logical end result.... during the Obama regime, the economy was smothered to the point that there were never enough jobs to go around. That forced many who wanted to work to become dependent upon the leftist god, government. It convinced many that government was indeed a solution, albeit not the preferable one.
If Trump can bring American jobs back (hasn't happened yet)..... more folks that are willing to work will go back to work and become independent, slowly reversing the damage Obama did re: this. At least, in theory.
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Simple.
Society promised a comfortable, middle-class living for those who went to school.
The problem was, there were never enough of those jobs to accommodate the rush of new college students, and on top of that, automation has increasingly cut away the good-paying working-class jobs that used to employ their parents and grandparents. Now all we have are human services jobs.
So, with a generation of people with a huge amount of debt, a worthless degree and no way to monetize it, we have a desperate throng looking anywhere to help them get out of this mess. They see rich people, and they see a target.
"Society promised"? I don't remember that part. I don't think I ever got promised anything.
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"Society promised"? I don't remember that part. I don't think I ever got promised anything.
I would have used a different phrase than"society promised."
The rest of his post is valid.
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"Society promised"? I don't remember that part. I don't think I ever got promised anything.
If you're in the latter half of Gen-X or the early part of the Millennials, that's precisely what a person was promised. Public schooling (probably private schools too), media, and even working-class parents who wanted their kids to have a better life than they experienced all pushed it. "Go to college, do something you love, you'll be better off."
Well, not everyone can do what they love. Lots more people want to be rock stars than there are openings. Fruit pickers, that's still the other way around, for now, until the machines catch up.
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If you're in the latter half of Gen-X or the early part of the Millennials, that's precisely what a person was promised. Public schooling (probably private schools too), media, and even working-class parents who wanted their kids to have a better life than they experienced all pushed it. "Go to college, do something you love, you'll be better off."
Well, not everyone can do what they love. Lots more people want to be rock stars than there are openings. Fruit pickers, that's still the other way around, for now, until the machines catch up.
Sometimes people make promises they have no ability to keep. This would be one of those.
And, you're right except that I would say that the vast majority of people don't make a living by doing something they love.
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If you're in the latter half of Gen-X or the early part of the Millennials, that's precisely what a person was promised. Public schooling (probably private schools too), media, and even working-class parents who wanted their kids to have a better life than they experienced all pushed it. "Go to college, do something you love, you'll be better off."
Well, not everyone can do what they love. Lots more people want to be rock stars than there are openings. Fruit pickers, that's still the other way around, for now, until the machines catch up.
Hmm i was promised two and only two things were certain: Death and taxes.