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Title: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: mystery-ak on May 18, 2014, 03:53:51 pm
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May 18, 2014, 11:10 am
Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says

By Timothy Cama

White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough said in an interview broadcast Sunday that President Obama is angry about problems over waiting time at Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) facilities and will not stop focusing on the issue until it is fixed.

“The president is madder than hell, and I’ve got the scars to prove it,” McDonough said on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” referring to his conversations with Obama about the VA’s problems. “We’re going to get to the bottom of those things, fix them and ensure that they don’t happen again.”

CBS correspondent Major Garrett shot his interview with McDonough Friday, a day after VA Secretary Eric Shinseki testified on Capitol Hill about allegations of mismanagement at multiple VA medical facilities that led to delays and claims that facilities sought to cover up the delays.

McDonough refused to judge Shinseki’s testimony.

“We don’t score testimony on Capitol Hill or otherwise,” he said. “A weak score is results as is relates to services and the benefits that our vets have earned.”

McDonough sought to assure that Obama is committed to solving the VA’s problems, even if the president himself hasn’t spoken publicly about it in weeks.

“We’ve now deployed additional staff to the Veterans Administration to dig into this, to find out if this is a series of isolated cases or whether this is a systemic issue that we need to address with wholesale reform,” he said.

“We’re not going to stop, Major, making this better until it is better,” McDonough said. “Because that’s exactly what our veterans deserve.”

The interview took place before Robert Petzel, the VA’s under secretary for health, resigned.

After airing the McDonough interview, “Face the Nation” host Bob Schieffer interviewed Dan Dellinger, national commander of the American Legion, who was one of the first public figures to call for Shinseki’s resignation amid the scandal over wait times.

Dellinger said it was not satisfied with Obama’s response thus far.

“We need the White House, the president, to come forward,” Dellinger said. “He needs to make a statement to show the employees of the VA that this needs to change now.”
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: massadvj on May 18, 2014, 04:06:20 pm
OPapaDoc has made it very clear that his administration is all about punishing those who opposed him and rewarding those who supported him.  All of his initiatives -- from OPapaDocCare to unemployment benefit extensions -- are designed to reward his supporters.  The darker side is just now being revealed.  The IRS targeting of the Tea Party, the Medicare cutting, and now this attack on veterans.  It's all designed to punish those who saw the truth about the man.

If OpapaDoc is mad about anything, it is the fact that his deep Chicago roots are being revealed.
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: truth_seeker on May 18, 2014, 04:19:26 pm
Truly competent managers have meetings periodically, to review the status of projects and issues with their subordinates. If the executive doesn't have time or inclination, he designates and delegates authority to a key subordinate.

Fewer surprises, that way. (Perhaps less time for golf and vacations, however).
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: mystery-ak on May 18, 2014, 04:23:54 pm
Obama just wanted the backlog cleared..he didn't care how it happened...just get it done and report those good numbers to the powers that be.....problem solved...until people started dying...
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: 240B on May 18, 2014, 04:27:50 pm
Imagine how upset and angry he would be if all veterans were Muslims. There is no doubt that then he would really blow his top. That would get his attention for sure. Allah hu Akbar.
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: flowers on May 18, 2014, 04:29:16 pm
He is only mad as hell because this was uncovered before the midterms.
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: massadvj on May 18, 2014, 04:35:53 pm
Imagine how upset and angry he would be if all veterans were Muslims. There is no doubt that then he would really blow his top. That would get his attention for sure. Allah hu Akbar.

Muslims, or Democrats.  He knows, based on his vote tally from vets, that he is killing off the opposition's voters.  Meanwhile, he is ensuring that his own voters live longer by giving them OPapaDoccare subsidies.  Cynical, you say?  Why, then, does every single policy that comes down the pike reward his voters and punish his opponent's?
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: 240B on May 18, 2014, 04:39:41 pm
Obama just wanted the backlog cleared..he didn't care how it happened...just get it done and report those good numbers to the powers that be.....problem solved...until people started dying...

Americans are dying every single day from his stupid idiotic 'Obamacare' and the American press is actually criminal in their subborn refusal to cover the story. They worship Obama like he is Jesus. They treat him as if they cosider him to be God and infallible.
 
O bam A! Obama! O bam A! Seig Heil! Seig Heil! Seig Heil...
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: katzenjammer on May 18, 2014, 04:40:09 pm
Muslims, or Democrats.  He knows, based on his vote tally from vets, that he is killing off the opposition's voters.  Meanwhile, he is ensuring that his own voters live longer by giving them OPapaDoccare subsidies.  Cynical, you say?  Why, then, does every single policy that comes down the pike reward his voters and punish his opponent's?

Exactly, it couldn't be any more consistent, nor any clearer.
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: 240B on May 18, 2014, 04:51:44 pm
Muslims, or Democrats.  He knows, based on his vote tally from vets, that he is killing off the opposition's voters.  Meanwhile, he is ensuring that his own voters live longer by giving them OPapaDoccare subsidies.  Cynical, you say?  Why, then, does every single policy that comes down the pike reward his voters and punish his opponent's?

Remeber in the last election how all votes from soldiers overseas, somehow got 'lost'? Absolutely unbelievable. And I blame the Republicans more than the stupid Dems. They did not say a word about it. Not a peep.
 
We are being ruled by criminals and fools. And we are all the bigger fools for going along and allowing it.
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: Bigun on May 18, 2014, 04:57:33 pm
OPapaDoc has made it very clear that his administration is all about punishing those who opposed him and rewarding those who supported him.  All of his initiatives -- from OPapaDocCare to unemployment benefit extensions -- are designed to reward his supporters.  The darker side is just now being revealed.  The IRS targeting of the Tea Party, the Medicare cutting, and now this attack on veterans.  It's all designed to punish those who saw the truth about the man.

If OpapaDoc is mad about anything, it is the fact that his deep Chicago roots are being revealed.

Yes indeed!

Well said Victor!

 :da man:
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: Bigun on May 18, 2014, 04:58:23 pm
Exactly, it couldn't be any more consistent, nor any clearer.

 :amen:  :patriot:
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: PzLdr on May 18, 2014, 07:23:45 pm
Next Step: "We're going to get to the bottom of this!"

Then: "Can't comment, it's an active investigation"

Finally: "Dude! That was a long time ago!"
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: 240B on May 18, 2014, 07:33:18 pm
Next Step: "We're going to get to the bottom of this!"

Then: "Can't comment, it's an active investigation"

Finally: "Dude! That was a long time ago!"

The American government just spews an seemingly endless stream of bullshit. And they lie with every breath they take. And they are proud of it. They think we are all fools, and the whole world is stupid. They act like rich arrogant 15 year olds.
 
And the entire world outside of America knows it. This does not bode well for any of us.
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: mountaineer on May 19, 2014, 12:05:50 am
I'm just spitting mad!

So what are you going to do?

Duh.  Get my golf bag, will ya?
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: Chieftain on May 19, 2014, 12:20:54 am
Next Step: "We're going to get to the bottom of this!"

Then: "Can't comment, it's an active investigation"

Finally: "Dude! That was a long time ago!"

When a President has no frappin' clue what to do about a crisis, he appoints a Special Presidential Commission to look into it for him, and buy time for the furor to die down, say, until after the election...........

 :smokin:
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: Fishrrman on May 19, 2014, 12:37:53 am
A look at the headline and I knew this article wasn't worth the bother.

Nothing more than another lie ...
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: rangerrebew on May 19, 2014, 02:32:00 pm
IF he were madder than hell about what has happened to the Vets as opposed to having another scandal, he would have done something about it by now, wouldn't he?  The fact is, he knew this was a potential problem when he was transitioning to the WH and has had 6 years to do something about it and hasn't.  He placed a military general in charge which was like putting a band aid on malignant melanoma.  He could only do what Obama allowed him to do which was essentially nothing.
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: IZZY ANN on May 19, 2014, 06:22:59 pm
He KNEW! Obama told of Veterans Affairs health care debacle as far back as 2008

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/18/obama-warned-about-va-wait-time-problems-during-20/#.U3pDB9F45Wc.twitter#ixzz32BdYg6oa

HE IS A PROVEN LIAR ....anyone who believes he cares about Vets would be better off believing in the TOOTH FAIRY !!
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: DCPatriot on May 19, 2014, 06:37:08 pm
This entire VA debacle is a preview of how everyday Americans will be treated once Obamacare evolves into a Single Payer system.

Veterans are in fact caught in a "single payer" system right now.

There certainly are "death panels".  Especially when one considers that the government panel overseeing this "private list" received cash bonuses for successfully shortening the list....as at this time almost 200 VETS have died supposedly awaiting treatment.

The evidence is overwhelming that it's a form of death panels.  How quickly you receive appointments and treatment depends on how much of a 'cost'/expense you are to the government supposedly trying to trim costs.

The fact they are mostly Republican voters is the cherry on top.

Sarah was correct and should be vindicated.

Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: katzenjammer on May 19, 2014, 06:43:22 pm
This entire VA debacle is a preview of how everyday Americans will be treated once Obamacare evolves into a Single Payer system.

Veterans are in fact caught in a "single payer" system right now.

There certainly are "death panels".  Especially when one considers that the government panel overseeing this "private list" received cash bonuses for successfully shortening the list....as at this time almost 200 VETS have died supposedly awaiting treatment.

The evidence is overwhelming that it's a form of death panels.  How quickly you receive appointments and treatment depends on how much of a 'cost'/expense you are to the government supposedly trying to trim costs.

The fact they are mostly Republican voters is the cherry on top.

Sarah was correct and should be vindicated.

Sarah was/is correct about a lot of things.
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: Bigun on May 19, 2014, 06:45:24 pm
This entire VA debacle is a preview of how everyday Americans will be treated once Obamacare evolves into a Single Payer system.

Veterans are in fact caught in a "single payer" system right now.

There certainly are "death panels".  Especially when one considers that the government panel overseeing this "private list" received cash bonuses for successfully shortening the list....as at this time almost 200 VETS have died supposedly awaiting treatment.

The evidence is overwhelming that it's a form of death panels.  How quickly you receive appointments and treatment depends on how much of a 'cost'/expense you are to the government supposedly trying to trim costs.

The fact they are mostly Republican voters is the cherry on top.

Sarah was correct and should be vindicated.

 :amen:  :amen: and  :amen:

And the ONLY thing Obama is mad as hell about in this is that whistle blowers brought it to light before the midterm elections! You can bet your arse he IS mad as hell about that!
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: DCPatriot on May 19, 2014, 06:50:25 pm
Furthermore....when the individual veteran is told that he's being place on the waiting list....it's essentially no different than a Jew arriving at Auschwitz or Treblinka being told they're just going to take a shower. 

They believe they're finally going to get their health issues addressed and resolved.
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: Bigun on May 19, 2014, 06:55:21 pm
Furthermore....when the individual veteran is told that he's being place on the waiting list....it's essentially no different than a Jew arriving at Auschwitz or Treblinka being told they're just going to take a shower. 

They believe they're finally going to get their health issues addressed and resolved.

Right again! There is exactly NO difference at all!
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: 240B on May 19, 2014, 07:00:06 pm
Furthermore....when the individual veteran is told that he's being place on the waiting list....it's essentially no different than a Jew arriving at Auschwitz or Treblinka being told they're just going to take a shower. 

They believe they're finally going to get their health issues addressed and resolved.

(https://refusetobesilent.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/auschwitz11.jpg?w=300&h=189)
 
Why are people, American people, so freakin STUPID!
I just cannot understand it.
 
Why can't we ever live out the golden age of Europe? Why do we only get the bad parts of history?
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: Relic on May 19, 2014, 07:04:29 pm
That sad part is, if you tell friends or relatives about this, they get noticeably irritated, at you. In America today, if you point out a problem, you become the problem. It's as if people decide if you just go away, they won't have to deal with what you're talking about. (This happens at my workplace as well).
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: 240B on May 19, 2014, 07:23:16 pm
That sad part is, if you tell friends or relatives about this, they get noticeably irritated, at you. In America today, if you point out a problem, you become the problem. It's as if people decide if you just go away, they won't have to deal with what you're talking about. (This happens at my workplace as well).

Exactly. I worked for a company with a proposed 'project'. I kept telling them, This will not work! This is not going to work! You guys are idiots.
 
They took me off the project. And then when it failed, they were all looking at me as guilty because I told them it was stupid. So I was punished for being right.
 
It was my fault, for being the boy who cryed wolf.
 
The only problem was there was a wolf. And he wrecked everything.
 
But from their point of view I cursed it. That is why it didn't work.
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: DCPatriot on May 19, 2014, 07:29:14 pm
That sad part is, if you tell friends or relatives about this, they get noticeably irritated, at you. In America today, if you point out a problem, you become the problem. It's as if people decide if you just go away, they won't have to deal with what you're talking about. (This happens at my workplace as well).

"In an insane world/society, the sane man MUST appear insane!".......  C. William King
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: rangerrebew on May 20, 2014, 08:42:21 pm

(https://refusetobesilent.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/auschwitz11.jpg?w=300&h=189)
 
Why are people, American people, so freakin STUPID!
I just cannot understand it.
 
Why can't we ever live out the golden age of Europe? Why do we only get the bad parts of history?

Perhaps we need look no further than the department of "education" which has been de-educating and indoctrinating for many years now.
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: Fishrrman on May 21, 2014, 12:17:33 am
DC Patriot wrote above:
[[ Sarah was correct and should be vindicated. ]]

And katzenjammer replied:
[[ Sarah was/is correct about a lot of things.]]

Indeed she was.
And it's remarkable that even here, she is pilloried by some as a has-been and irrelevant.

I would gladly "waste my vote" on her over EVERY so-called "Republican" candidate who's going to be running in 2016 (with one exception: Scott Walker, whose accomplishments more resemble Ron Reagan than anyone else today).

Sumthin' tells me that we haven't heard the last from her yet, insofar as presidential politics is concerned...
Title: Re: Obama ‘madder than hell’ about scandal at VA, aide says
Post by: Bigun on May 21, 2014, 01:03:30 am
DC Patriot wrote above:
[[ Sarah was correct and should be vindicated. ]]

And katzenjammer replied:
[[ Sarah was/is correct about a lot of things.]]

Indeed she was.
And it's remarkable that even here, she is pilloried by some as a has-been and irrelevant.

I would gladly "waste my vote" on her over EVERY so-called "Republican" candidate who's going to be running in 2016 (with one exception: Scott Walker, whose accomplishments more resemble Ron Reagan than anyone else today).

Sumthin' tells me that we haven't heard the last from her yet, insofar as presidential politics is concerned...

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