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General Category => Sports/Entertainment/MSM/Social Media => Shooting Sports => Topic started by: ABX on June 25, 2012, 01:51:32 pm

Title: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on June 25, 2012, 01:51:32 pm
An ongoing thread of discovery and admiration.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on June 25, 2012, 01:53:28 pm
Today's Gun--
Sako TRG - 42 in .338 Lapua

Caliber: 7.62x51mm (.308) (TRG-22)
.300 Win Mag (TRG-42)
8.60x70mm (.338 Lapua) (TRG-42)
Operation: Bolt Action
Feed: 5 or 10 round box magazine
Barrel: 26" (TRG-22)
27" (TRG-42)
Weight: 10.4 lbs (TRG-22)
11.2 lbs (TRG-42)
Length: 46.5"
Trigger: Two-stage; adjustable for length, pull, horizontal or vertical pitch.
Features:
Aluminum base stock attached with polyurethane forestock.
Polyurethane buttstock with aluminum skeleton.
Fully adjustable cheek piece (height, windage and pitch).
Fully adjustable buttplate (distance, angle, height and pitch).
Advanced stock design for right and left handed shooters.
Detachable centre-fed box magazine.
Independently removable trigger assembly and trigger guard.
Double-stage trigger pull adjustable from 1 to 2.5 kg (2 to 5 lbs.). Also adjustable in length and vertical or horizontal pitch.
Silent safety catch inside the trigger guard.
Safety locks the trigger mechanism and the bolt in closed position with firing pin blocked from the primer.
Long action only.
Three massive locking lugs, 60 degree bolt lift.
Receiver fastened by three fastening screws.
Without open sights, auxiliary folding peep sights for emergency use.
Integral 17 mm dovetail on the top of the receiver for optical day and night sights.
Heavy free-floating hammer-forged barrel; deeply blued. Available also in stainless steel.
Extra accessories include, e.g., muzzle brake/flash-hider, silencer (.308 Winchester), foldable bipod, match sight mounting set, night sight adapter, different slings and swivels, cleaning sets, heavy-duty transit case.


(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/c0.0.614.293.52550415184/p843x403/314749_327746530639981_725981534_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Lando Lincoln on June 25, 2012, 02:02:34 pm
Oooooooo... shivers...  Awesome piece!  Savage has an incredible .338 Lapua as well.  My Lando-juniors were trying to talk Old Man Lando into springing for one.  Couldn't justify the $$$ for the weapon or the ammo.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on June 26, 2012, 12:53:31 pm
Today's Gun: Just some eye candy.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/166070_316206251794009_439084294_n.jpg)

Just someone's idea of a concept way to break your wrist.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on June 27, 2012, 12:32:00 pm
Today be ready to drool. The Turnbull TAR-10 Rifle:
(http://turnbullmfg.com/client_images/catalog19872/pages/images/rifles/ar_cc-web.jpg)

Some features of the Turnbull TAR-10 308:

    16" fluted 4150 chrome moly-vanadium barrel with screw on muzzle brake
    Carbine gas system for smoother recoil
    Premium American Walnut forend, pistol grip and A2 style stock
    Color case hardened steel lower
    Color case hardened steel flat top upper with integral high picatinny rail
    MOE™ trigger guard for gloved finger


Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on June 29, 2012, 12:23:12 am
Gun of the day. Today, my personal concealed carry choice for every-day carry. The Walther PPK/s.

(and not just because I am a big Bond fan and collector)

(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/MickeyD1/WaltherPPKs.jpg)



    Walther® PPK/S Pistol
    Manufacturer Number: VAH38001
    Action: Single/Double
    Caliber; .380 ACP
    Capacity: 7 Round
    Features:
        Firing Pin Safety
        Manual Safety with Decocking Function
        Double Action and Single Action Trigger
        Extended Beaver Tail
    Barrel Length: 3.35 Inch
    Overall Length: 6.1 Inch
    Sights: Fixed
    Weight (Empty): 22.4 Ounces


Before someone talks about the stopping power of the .380, consider this.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-IBzbM_RoeE/TGLYQ4m23fI/AAAAAAAAC90/iouv2t4RE4A/s1600/hstj.jpg)

It doesn't have the energy of the .45 but the lack of energy will cause the bullet to stay in the target longer versus going right through. Maybe not the best against a large bear, but for the average tweaked out crack-head mugger, it will work quite well.

(http://www.handgunsmag.com/files/2010/09/hg_criticaldef_200903-a.jpg)


Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on June 30, 2012, 02:14:51 pm
Today, the SIG 716 Precision Sniper is the new piston operated 7.62x51mm / .308 Win. rifle from Sig Sauer.

The rifle will be offered in four configurations:

* Tactical Patrol (12.5" barrel, almost certainly only on offer to law enforcement and military)
* Patrol (16" barrel)
* Precision Marksman (16" barrel)
* Precision Sniper (20" barrel)

Every model is equipped with free-floating quad rail and chrome-lined barrels. The Marksmen models feature heavy match barrels. The non-marksmen models come with backup iron sights. The 517 makes use of Armalite's AR-10 Gen II magazine.

(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/380232_320527688028532_1751906450_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on July 05, 2012, 05:19:05 pm
SARSILMAZ - Model K2 9mm

Manufactured by: Sarsalmaz - Turkey

Style: Semi Auto Pistol

Caliber: 9mm

Barrel length: 118mm

Action: Semi Auto, Double/single Action

Sights: Fixed Tail Front and Rear

Magazine Capacity: 15

Finish: White Hard Chrome

Total Length: 210mm

Grip Width: 33mm

Height: 140mm

Weight: 1000gr

Safety System: Decocking lever, firing pin safety

SARSILMAZ K2 - Semi Auto Pistol comes with 2 Stainless Steel Magazines and the pistol has a White Hard Chrome finish..... A very smart look!

This pistol is based on the CZ 75 Model with different safety levers located on the slide using the Decocking system

(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/391549_333090926772208_1894052460_n.jpg)


Basically, a sub $200 CZ75
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Scythian on July 05, 2012, 05:40:43 pm
(http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Handgun_42ea13_234586.gif)
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on July 11, 2012, 03:15:18 am
Today, one for the pistol enthusiasts.

The FN Five-seven, trademarked as the Five-seveN, is a semi-automatic pistol designed and manufactured by FN Herstal in Belgium. The pistol is named for its 5.7-mm (.224 in) bullet diameter, and the trademark capitalization style is intended to emphasize the manufacturer's initials—FN.

The Five-seven pistol was developed in conjunction with the FN P90 personal defense weapon and the 5.7×28mm cartridge. The P90 was introduced in 1990, and the Five-seven was introduced in 1998 as a pistol using the same 5.7×28mm ammunition. Developed as a companion pistol to the P90, the Five-seven shares many of its design features: it is a lightweight polymer-based weapon with a large magazine capacity, ambidextrous controls, low recoil, and the ability to penetrate soft body armor when using certain cartridge types.

Sales of the Five-seven were originally restricted by FN to military and law enforcement customers, but since 2004, the pistol has also been offered to civilian shooters for personal protection, target shooting, and similar uses. Although offered only with sporting ammunition, the Five-seven's introduction to civilian shooters was met with vocal opposition from gun control organizations such as the Brady Campaign, and the pistol has been subject to ongoing controversy in the United States.

The Five-seven is currently in service with military and police forces in over 40 countries, such as Canada, France, Greece, India, Poland, Spain, and the United States. In the United States, the Five-seven is in use with numerous law enforcement agencies, including the U.S. Secret Service. In the years since the pistol's introduction to the civilian market in the United States, it has also become increasingly popular with civilian shooters.

(https://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/425976_245291148885520_2080233177_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: DCPatriot on July 11, 2012, 04:30:58 am

This is a terrific category...given the times we're living.

Could I make a request that you include the average prices of the featured guns?  And cost of ammunition? 

Or even a link where we could go to get the information?

Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on July 11, 2012, 12:51:36 pm
This is a terrific category...given the times we're living.

Could I make a request that you include the average prices of the featured guns?  And cost of ammunition? 

Or even a link where we could go to get the information?


Great idea.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on July 11, 2012, 11:59:34 pm
Here are some prices (excluding art or concept guns)

Sako TRG- $3,000-$5,000 depending on configuration.
Turnbull TAR-10 - $4,995.00
Walther PPK/S- $599 (I purchased mine at a gun show for around $250)
SIG 716 Precision Sniper- $1800 (starting)
SARSILMAZ - Model K2  $199 (gun show price)
FN Five-seven- $1100 (ammunition for this is somewhat more pricy than regular pistol ammunition at around $25 for a 50 round box versus $12 for 9mm).
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on July 12, 2012, 12:00:52 am
Prices picked up from Cheaper Than Dirt, Gun Broker, or the mfg website.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: DCPatriot on July 12, 2012, 01:41:06 am
Thanks very much, Abaraxas!  :patriot:

Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on July 21, 2012, 01:33:18 pm
Shotguns are popular for home defense and today I thought I would show you an unusual one that would be great for this application. Serbu makes custom shotguns based on Remington or Mossberg platforms.

One of their top models is the Super-Shot 12 Gauge. 
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/425431_333741010040533_1071121532_n.jpg)

Type Manually operated, pump action
Gauge, chamber 12, 76 mm / 3”
Length 419 mm / 16.5” (with 6.5” barrel)
Barrel length 165 mm / 6.5” (also 229mm/9” and 305mm/12”)
Weight 2.04 – 2.72 kg / 4.5 – 6 lbs
Magazine capacity 2, 3 or 4 rounds


Even though this is modified shotgun that is well under the 16" barrel, it is registered as a AOW (Any Other Weapon) and not a class II. This means it only requires an additional $5 transfer stamp, not a special license.

The other good news, the price is only around $700 new.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: mountaineer on July 21, 2012, 04:17:10 pm
Quote
the Super-Shot 12 Gauge
Where might one purchase such a magnificent creature?
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on July 21, 2012, 06:24:19 pm
I've seen them at gun shows.  Here is their dealer locator.
http://www.serbu.com/top/findffl.php
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: mountaineer on July 21, 2012, 11:21:41 pm
Great. I see one not terribly far from me.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: aligncare on July 22, 2012, 12:23:10 am
Gun of the day. Today, my personal concealed carry choice for every-day carry. The Walther PPK/s.

(and not just because I am a big Bond fan and collector)

(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/MickeyD1/WaltherPPKs.jpg)



When I moved from Northern California to NYC I had to sell mine.  Needless to say, NYC is not a place where a new comer can obtain CCW--unless you are politically connected; even then good luck.  It was the silver model.   8888crybaby  Sigh, I sure miss it--though I never missed with it.

By the way, my kids gave me the complete boxed set of 007 CD's for Christmas.  They know their daddy.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Oceander on July 22, 2012, 02:37:57 am
When I moved from Northern California to NYC I had to sell mine.  Needless to say, NYC is not a place where a new comer can obtain CCW--unless you are politically connected; even then good luck.  It was the silver model.   8888crybaby  Sigh, I sure miss it--though I never missed with it.

By the way, my kids gave me the complete boxed set of 007 CD's for Christmas.  They know their daddy.

I felt the same way when I moved here and had to give up my Ruger P89 - and the 15-round clip I managed to pick up for it - and my little Browning .22 semi-auto pistol (my plinker).
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: aligncare on July 22, 2012, 02:49:11 am

I hear you.  I also had to sell my vintage 1958 Baretta .22 short tip out.  Mine had white pearl grips:

(http://gastatic.com/UserImages/87270/910237028/pop_wm_964774.jpg)
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Oceander on July 22, 2012, 02:50:41 am
I hear you.  I also had to sell my vintage 1958 Baretta .22 short tip out.  Mine had white pearl grips:

(http://gastatic.com/UserImages/87270/910237028/pop_wm_964774.jpg)

Oh lordy.  That must have hurt.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on July 25, 2012, 11:29:27 pm
Today I wanted to share another one of my personal guns and a great alternate home-defense weapon. The MasterPiece Arms Mini 9mm which is basically a civilian version of a MAC11.

This little gun is a power-house. Made from stamped steel, you could drive over it and not hurt it (never tested that theory). Its construction is very simple and it uses few, heavy parts. I have run thousands of rounds through this and the only time I've had a jam was when it was my own fault and didn't seat the magazine correctly.

For home defense, it has the advantage of both a small size and the 30 round magazine. It is also simple to operate in the dark. (and this really turns heads at the gun range)


(https://www.masterpiecearms.com/prodimages/MPA930T%20with%20Std.%20Acces..jpg)


MPA930T
Top Cocker
one (1) 30 Round Polymer Magazine
one (1) Standard Extension
one (1) Mag Loader
Thread Size: 1/2 x 28
American Made
Ships in Gun Case
Lifetime Guarantee


Price $488

Note, MasterPiece Arms will be coming out with a suppressor for this gun later this year and I'll be first in line.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on July 25, 2012, 11:34:35 pm
I forgot to add, it is also extremely accurate and the sights, while simple are very easy to use.

I have a flashlight attached but am considering a holosight as well.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Lando Lincoln on August 01, 2012, 03:05:47 am
My newest addition... The Ruger 10/22 RBD-FS.  Bought it through my FFL dealer friend who picked it up used - at 3 weeks old.  The original buyer lost his job.  Came with an AR style case and a TruGlo tactical scope.

(http://www.lipseys.com/eImages/RU1022RBD-FS.JPG)
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: DCPatriot on August 01, 2012, 03:10:25 am
My newest addition... The Ruger 10/22 RBD-FS.  Bought it through my FFL dealer friend who picked it up used - at 3 weeks old.  The original buyer lost his job.  Came with an AR style case and a TruGlo tactical scope.

(http://www.lipseys.com/eImages/RU1022RBD-FS.JPG)


Wow!    :beer:
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on August 01, 2012, 11:30:24 pm
My newest addition... The Ruger 10/22 RBD-FS.  Bought it through my FFL dealer friend who picked it up used - at 3 weeks old.  The original buyer lost his job.  Came with an AR style case and a TruGlo tactical scope.

(http://www.lipseys.com/eImages/RU1022RBD-FS.JPG)

Very nice. The Ruger 10/22 is one of the most versatile guns with a great rep.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on August 14, 2012, 04:28:13 am
one more concealed option--

THE PISTOL OF THE DAY: The Bodyguard chambered in .380 ACP from Smith &Wesson is the latest in the ever popular class of semi-auto “pocket pistols” in this caliber. The Bodyguard 380 comes with an integrated laser from Insight Technology making it a relatively complete and affordable personal defense handgun.

Model:BODYGUARD® 380
Caliber:.380 Auto
Capacity:6+1 Rounds
Barrel Length:2.75″/ 7.0 cm
Frame Size:Compact
Action:Double Action Only (Hammer Fired)
Front Sight:Stainless Steel
Rear Sight:Drift Adjustable
Grip:Polymer
Overall Length:5.25″/ 13.3 cm
Weight:11.85 oz / 335.9 g
Frame Material:Polymer
Material:Stainless Steel w/Melonite® Finish
Finish:Matte Black
Purpose:Personal Protection
Law Enforcement
MSRP:$399.00

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/303369_283906805023954_685392228_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on August 15, 2012, 11:05:20 pm
I almost forgot to add a photo. This is my personal suppressed Masterpiece Arms MAC11. I am playing around with a laser sight shown here (have several laying around) in addition to the flashlight I mentioned before. I really recommend this as a home defense gun versus just a pistol. Thank God I've never needed it as a defensive weapon and I pray no one does, but in terms of intimidation factor, if anyone breaks in,  I hope it is the same reaction as I get at the range which is awe.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-SwtY_43lHXg/UCwnELF22cI/AAAAAAAAAkg/GOP4ARfIR6k/s793/2012-08-15_17-47-41_914.jpg)

I am considering painting this digital urban camouflage just because, well, no reason but for fun.

 
Today I wanted to share another one of my personal guns and a great alternate home-defense weapon. The MasterPiece Arms Mini 9mm which is basically a civilian version of a MAC11.

This little gun is a power-house. Made from stamped steel, you could drive over it and not hurt it (never tested that theory). Its construction is very simple and it uses few, heavy parts. I have run thousands of rounds through this and the only time I've had a jam was when it was my own fault and didn't seat the magazine correctly.

For home defense, it has the advantage of both a small size and the 30 round magazine. It is also simple to operate in the dark. (and this really turns heads at the gun range)


(https://www.masterpiecearms.com/prodimages/MPA930T%20with%20Std.%20Acces..jpg)


MPA930T
Top Cocker
one (1) 30 Round Polymer Magazine
one (1) Standard Extension
one (1) Mag Loader
Thread Size: 1/2 x 28
American Made
Ships in Gun Case
Lifetime Guarantee


Price $488

Note, MasterPiece Arms will be coming out with a suppressor for this gun later this year and I'll be first in line.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: 69FenderStrat on August 15, 2012, 11:17:08 pm
one more concealed option--

THE PISTOL OF THE DAY: The Bodyguard chambered in .380 ACP from Smith &Wesson is the latest in the ever popular class of semi-auto “pocket pistols” in this caliber. The Bodyguard 380 comes with an integrated laser from Insight Technology making it a relatively complete and affordable personal defense handgun.

Model:BODYGUARD® 380
Caliber:.380 Auto
Capacity:6+1 Rounds
Barrel Length:2.75″/ 7.0 cm
Frame Size:Compact
Action:Double Action Only (Hammer Fired)
Front Sight:Stainless Steel
Rear Sight:Drift Adjustable
Grip:Polymer
Overall Length:5.25″/ 13.3 cm
Weight:11.85 oz / 335.9 g
Frame Material:Polymer
Material:Stainless Steel w/Melonite® Finish
Finish:Matte Black
Purpose:Personal Protection
Law Enforcement
MSRP:$399.00

(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/303369_283906805023954_685392228_n.jpg)
my kid has one..he is a detective here in eastern NC wears it on his ankle
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: 69FenderStrat on August 15, 2012, 11:20:02 pm
I have a few my home defence shotgun (http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg92/Sabian576/Mossberg%20500/Mossberg500Tactical.jpg)
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: mountaineer on August 16, 2012, 01:08:09 pm
I guess what I have is the predecessor of the BODYGUARD® 380, a S&W .380 Sigma that I purchased over 10 years ago to carry whenever I worked late nights in the marginally seedy section of town.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on August 18, 2012, 01:21:21 am
For something a little different today, the Beretta CX4 Storm.
(http://www.slickguns.com/sites/default/files/80547_0.jpg)
Berettas Cx4 Storm redefines the pistol-caliber carbine, with racy and radical lines from the masters of industrial design at Giugiaro. Form follows function in a symphony of smooth, sweeping curves made possible by the use of modern high strength techno polymers. Berettas use of cutting edge materials also keeps weight down to just 53/4 lbs., making the Cx4 a pleasure to carry, whether in the field or on duty.
Specifications
Action Semi-Automatic
Caliber 40 S&W
Bbl Length 16.6"
Capacity 14+1
Trigger Single Stage
Safety Cross Bolt
OAL 29.7 "
Weight 7.75 lbs
Price ~$700
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Lando Lincoln on August 18, 2012, 01:27:31 am
My son just bought one of these and put ghost-ring (peep) sights on it for in the north woods.  I love it!

(http://www.marlinfirearms.com/images/bigbore/photo_1895.jpg)

Marlin 1895
Caliber   45/70 Gov't.
Capacity   4-shot tubular magazine
Action   Lever action; side ejection; solid top receiver; deeply blued metal surfaces; hammer block safety.
Stock   American black walnut pistol grip stock with fluted comb; cut checkering; rubber rifle butt pad; tough Mar-Shield® finish; swivel studs.
Barrel   22" with deep-cut Ballard-type rifling (6 grooves).
Twist Rate   1:20" r.h.
Sights   Adjustable semi-buckhorn folding rear, ramp front sight with brass bead and Wide-Scan™ hood. Solid top receiver tapped for scope mount; offset hammer spur (right or left hand) for scope use.
Overall Length   40.5"
Weight   7.5 lbs.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Lando Lincoln on August 18, 2012, 01:39:31 am
For something a little different today, the Beretta CX4 Storm.
(http://www.slickguns.com/sites/default/files/80547_0.jpg)
Berettas Cx4 Storm redefines the pistol-caliber carbine, with racy and radical lines from the masters of industrial design at Giugiaro. Form follows function in a symphony of smooth, sweeping curves made possible by the use of modern high strength techno polymers. Berettas use of cutting edge materials also keeps weight down to just 53/4 lbs., making the Cx4 a pleasure to carry, whether in the field or on duty.
Specifications
Action Semi-Automatic
Caliber 40 S&W
Bbl Length 16.6"
Capacity 14+1
Trigger Single Stage
Safety Cross Bolt
OAL 29.7 "
Weight 7.75 lbs
Price ~$700

I have held one of those but never fired it.  Amazing how naturally it handles.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on August 18, 2012, 01:54:24 am
That is nice and hopefully something he can pass down for generations.

My son just bought one of these and put ghost-ring (peep) sights on it for in the north woods.  I love it!

(http://www.marlinfirearms.com/images/bigbore/photo_1895.jpg)

Marlin 1895
Caliber   45/70 Gov't.
Capacity   4-shot tubular magazine
Action   Lever action; side ejection; solid top receiver; deeply blued metal surfaces; hammer block safety.
Stock   American black walnut pistol grip stock with fluted comb; cut checkering; rubber rifle butt pad; tough Mar-Shield® finish; swivel studs.
Barrel   22" with deep-cut Ballard-type rifling (6 grooves).
Twist Rate   1:20" r.h.
Sights   Adjustable semi-buckhorn folding rear, ramp front sight with brass bead and Wide-Scan™ hood. Solid top receiver tapped for scope mount; offset hammer spur (right or left hand) for scope use.
Overall Length   40.5"
Weight   7.5 lbs.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Lando Lincoln on August 18, 2012, 02:05:57 am
That is nice and hopefully something he can pass down for generations.

I always tell my sons that our guns will belong to someone else someday.  They are all heirlooms.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: 69FenderStrat on August 18, 2012, 02:37:29 am
My son just bought one of these and put ghost-ring (peep) sights on it for in the north woods.  I love it!

(http://www.marlinfirearms.com/images/bigbore/photo_1895.jpg)

Marlin 1895
Caliber   45/70 Gov't.
Capacity   4-shot tubular magazine
Action   Lever action; side ejection; solid top receiver; deeply blued metal surfaces; hammer block safety.
Stock   American black walnut pistol grip stock with fluted comb; cut checkering; rubber rifle butt pad; tough Mar-Shield® finish; swivel studs.
Barrel   22" with deep-cut Ballard-type rifling (6 grooves).
Twist Rate   1:20" r.h.
Sights   Adjustable semi-buckhorn folding rear, ramp front sight with brass bead and Wide-Scan™ hood. Solid top receiver tapped for scope mount; offset hammer spur (right or left hand) for scope use.
Overall Length   40.5"
Weight   7.5 lbs.

I had that gun loved it..had a bunch of guns stolen from my apt when I lived in NY the Marlin 45-70 was one of them
bought originally to go grizzly hunting in Montana, the only difference in the one I had was that it had a straight stock
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on August 20, 2012, 11:01:36 pm
The Taurus Judge has been one of the most desired guns available for home defense as it can shoot either a .410 Shotshell or a .45 Colt, but my personal opinion is that the regular model isn't very comfortable to operate or master. However, the Taurus Raging Judge 513 may be an improved option for you with a lighter weight and longer barrel.

(http://cdn1.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_images/bgprod/62692.jpg)

.45 Long Colt and .410 Bore
6.5" barrel
3" Magnum chamber
7 rounds
Transfer bar safety
Single/double action
Medium alloy frame
Black rubber grip with cushion insert
Blued finish
Fiber optic fixed front sight
Fixed rear sight
13.6" overall length
47.2 oz unloaded

All rise for the biggest, meanest Judge on the market. The new Raging Judge Ultra-Lite now comes with the option to load the mighty .410 shotshell. That’s right, we’re giving you the option to choose from .410 3-inch or 2.5-inch shotshells and .45 Colt ammo—all in the same revolver! The Raging Judge Ultra-Lite has a 7-shot cylinder, larger than its brothers in the Judge line and offers the “Raging Bull” backstrap to reduce felt recoil. Larger, 7-Shot Cylinder


~~Compare to the regular Taurus Judge
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/81/Taurus_Public_Defender.jpg/300px-Taurus_Public_Defender.jpg)

The Judge retails for about $600
The Raging Judge 513 for about $700

However, shop around. I found the Judge on GunBroker.com for $400 and the Raging Judge for $550
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Lando Lincoln on August 20, 2012, 11:22:54 pm
I have the Judge and I like it.  I have one in a small gun safe next to my bed.  It is really quite comfortable in my hand and I can shoot reasonably well with it.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: DCPatriot on August 20, 2012, 11:55:04 pm
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/81/Taurus_Public_Defender.jpg/300px-Taurus_Public_Defender.jpg)



What kind of 'kick' does that gun produce?  Are we talking, spread stance, two hands together?  Or, whipping it out of the nightstand and firing away?
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on August 21, 2012, 12:31:45 am
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/81/Taurus_Public_Defender.jpg/300px-Taurus_Public_Defender.jpg)



What kind of 'kick' does that gun produce?  Are we talking, spread stance, two hands together?  Or, whipping it out of the nightstand and firing away?

I've shot worse. The old S&W 357 Magnum kicked more but this isn't a duster either. Here is a great review video with shooting from everyone's favorite FPS Russia.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tY3YYDgDUXs

Mind you, he is a 'Professional Russian' so the kick won't be that bad for him.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: DCPatriot on August 21, 2012, 02:18:10 am
Fantastic, thanks, Abaraxas!  :patriot:
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on August 21, 2012, 11:38:45 pm
Something fun for today. Have you dreamed of having a .50 but didn't want to fork out $12K for it?  ArmaLite has a single shot option for under $4,000.  If my local ranges would allow shooting a .50, I would even be tempted to snatch one of these up.
(http://www.armalite.com/Images/large%20images/Rifles/50A1BLARGE700.jpg)

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This rifle is the newest incarnation of the wildly popular AR-50 chambered for the powerful 50 BMG cartridge. A single shot bolt action rifle featuring a unique octagonal receiver bedded down into a V-shaped stock. Designed to be an economical answer for the challenges of long range shooting, the AR-50A1 is amazingly accurate and with its massive fluted muzzle brake, it has a very gentle recoil. The AR-50A1 is a highly refined rifle which is a stark and refreshing difference that maintains its superiority over its competition.

ArmaLite's great .50 has been refined, with smoother action, attractive new bolt stop, and even greater strength than the original AR-50.  The same great accuracy, but now even more Beautiful.

*The holder of an active FFL must contact ArmaLite to order this product.

*Shown with optional Scope, Scope Mount, Mono-pod and Bi-pod

Model: AR-50A1
Caliber: .50 BMG
Barrel: 30" Chrome moly, 8 Groove
Rifling Twist: RH 1:15"
Muzzle Device: Highly Efficient Multi-Flute Recoil Check, Very Moderate Felt Recoil. Threading: 1"-14
Upper Receiver: Modified Octagonal Form, Grilled & Slotted for Mil STD Scope Rail with Boss to Engage Cross-Slot on Receiver
Bolt: Triple Front Locking Lug
Ejector: Spring Loaded Plunger, Automatic Ejection
Extractor: Sako Type
Trigger: Schilen Standard Single Stage, Approximate 5 lbs Pull
Stock: 3 Section Stock: Extruded Forend, Machined Grip with Vertical Grip, Forged and Machined Removable Buttstock
Buttplate: Vertically Adjustable, Specially Built for Heavy Calibers
Overall Length: 58.5" Without Buttstock: 49 3/4 inches
Weight: 34.8 lbs
Finish: Hard Anodized Aluminum, Manganese Phosphated Steel
Accuracy: 7" - 8" @ 1000 yds
Included with Rifle: 15 Minute Sight Base, Owners Manual, Ear Plugs, Limited Lifetime Warranty

Your Price: $3,359.00  EA
http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=50A1B&ReturnUrl=Categories.aspx?Category=0406c9ff-539d-4b4c-ae1f-d045b91324c3

Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Oceander on August 22, 2012, 01:50:12 am
Nice.  Can I come shoot yours when you get it?
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on August 22, 2012, 02:11:07 am
Nice.  Can I come shoot yours when you get it?

I doubt I actually would with no place I could regularly shoot it. Temping though. 
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: 69FenderStrat on August 22, 2012, 02:22:58 am
(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/mrppse/SW%20500%20magnum/sw500comparemags.jpg)
500 S&W and. 44 mag
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: DCPatriot on August 22, 2012, 02:22:59 am
I doubt I actually would with no place I could regularly shoot it. Temping though.

Reminds me of the gun in The Jackal.

Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Atomic Cow on August 22, 2012, 02:24:56 am
My next gun purchase will be an AR, not sure what brand just yet.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on August 22, 2012, 02:25:06 am
(http://i439.photobucket.com/albums/qq119/mrppse/SW%20500%20magnum/sw500comparemags.jpg)
500 S&W and. 44 mag

Sweetness
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: 69FenderStrat on August 22, 2012, 02:26:41 am
50 cal.  Is the largest cal. Rifle the U S government will allow a citizen to own without a special license
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on August 22, 2012, 02:35:31 am
50 cal.  Is the largest cal. Rifle the U S government will allow a citizen to own without a special license

There is a special exception for the .950 JDJ. It has a special use sporting exception.

There are also a few C&R gun calibers available that can be purchased with that license, which is the easiest to get.  These are usually like the .577 Henry
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Oceander on August 22, 2012, 02:39:32 am
There is a special exception for the .950 JDJ. It has a special use sporting exception.

There are also a few C&R gun calibers available that can be purchased with that license, which is the easiest to get.  These are usually like the .577 Henry

What sport involves shooting an almost one-inch diameter round?  And can I join?
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on August 22, 2012, 02:51:51 am
What sport involves shooting an almost one-inch diameter round?  And can I join?

You actually hunt the suckers willing to shoulder that gun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rKHXTsDcco
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Oceander on August 22, 2012, 02:58:11 am
You actually hunt the suckers willing to shoulder that gun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rKHXTsDcco


Yikes!
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Lando Lincoln on August 22, 2012, 12:03:33 pm
Something fun for today. Have you dreamed of having a .50 but didn't want to fork out $12K for it?  ArmaLite has a single shot option for under $4,000.  If my local ranges would allow shooting a .50, I would even be tempted to snatch one of these up.


Check this out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Oceander on August 22, 2012, 01:07:14 pm
Check this out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ABGIJwiGBc

Holey Moses!  That guy is one lucky SOB.  When I lived in more civilized places (southwest Virginia) I used to go to a public shooting range on Saturday afternoons, until the day I started hearing ricochets from the rounds a nearby idiot was firing at the boulders sitting at the top of the range backstop.  And that was just from an AK-47 knock-off.  Thank the Lord he didn't have a 50 cal.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on August 24, 2012, 11:59:58 pm
New Savage Model 42 22LR/410 Shotshell Combination Gun

http://gunblast.com/Savage-42.htm
(http://gunblast.com/images/Savage-42/DSC05370.JPG)
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Savage Arms has a history of producing good-shooting, affordable combination guns. Unlike many of the European combo guns that cost more than a new pickup truck, the Savage Model 24 that was built in the 1950s, 60s, and 70s provided shooters, campers, hunters, and survivalists with handy firearms that would fire both rifle and shotgun ammunition, at prices that most folks could afford. However, several variations of these discontinued Model 24 combination guns are now fetching princely sums of money, as most folks who have these guns are not willing to part with them. If you do find one for sale, they are sometimes in pretty rough condition, as these were working guns; riding in pickup trucks and living in the woods much of the time.

Savage has now introduced a thoroughly modernized version of the Model 24, called the Model 42. Instead of blued steel and walnut, the Model 42 wears a matte black finish on the receiver and a satin black finish on the barrels, all fitted into a lightweight black polymer stock. The forend is slim and easy to grasp, with long finger-grooves on each side, and texturing along the bottom. It is very comfortable to hold. The buttstock has a generous pistol grip, also textured for a secure hold. The polymer is impervious to harsh weather and rough handling. The recoil pad is soft and effective, and the black stock is accented with red butt pad, pistol grip cap, and forend cap spacers. “Savage Arms” is proudly shown in red letters along each side of the forend. The action is a non-ferrous casting, with the barrels, mono-block, trigger, hammer, and other small parts made of steel. Thankfully, the Model 42 has sling studs, as should any such firearm that is meant to live in the great outdoors. The barrels measure twenty inches in length. Each barrel measures .555 inch diameter. As far as I can tell, the 410 barrel has no choke constriction, and it is not threaded to accept choke tubes.


Price will be $400 or less.

A lot more info at the link.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: wolfcreek on September 10, 2012, 06:57:38 pm
I hear you.  I also had to sell my vintage 1958 Baretta .22 short tip out.  Mine had white pearl grips:

(http://gastatic.com/UserImages/87270/910237028/pop_wm_964774.jpg)

Why did y'all have to get rid of your guns? They check you at the state line?
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Oceander on September 10, 2012, 07:43:38 pm
Why did y'all have to get rid of your guns? They check you at the state line?

Nope, but if you get caught afterwards, it's not fun - fines, penalties, and jail time.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: wolfcreek on September 10, 2012, 07:53:18 pm
Nope, but if you get caught afterwards, it's not fun - fines, penalties, and jail time.

That's not America, IMO. No way in Hades would I give up my personal protection.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Oceander on September 10, 2012, 09:09:14 pm
That's not America, IMO. No way in Hades would I give up my personal protection.

You're right, it's not America, it's New York, in particular, New York City (apparently, in the upstate counties many of the sheriffs are a little more "relaxed" about citizens having firearms).  The ironic thing is, the firearm laws, which essentially give government officials complete discretion to deny, or limit, a person's right to own a firearm, were originally enacted by the Anglo-Saxon elite in order to keep down the teeming immigrants, like the Irish and the Italians.  Now those laws are applied to all, including those who were responsible for them.  They have also proven that the effect - keeping people down - is real and that banning firearm ownership is a significant means of keeping a population cowed and under control.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Puss-N-Boots on September 10, 2012, 09:16:58 pm
Gun of the day. Today, my personal concealed carry choice for every-day carry. The Walther PPK/s.

(and not just because I am a big Bond fan and collector)



I have a new Walther PPS.  Fires very well, considering how light it is.  Better to carry than my Baretta Mini Cougar.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Ford289HiPo on September 10, 2012, 11:35:05 pm
I picked this up model up at a gun show a few months ago:


(http://www.gunshopfinder.com/springfield/MA9104.jpg)

Caliber: 7.62mm NATO (.308 Win.)
Barrel: 22", Twist: 1 turn in 12 inches, right hand, four-groove carbon steel
Size Weight: 9.2 pounds, Length: 44 1/3" long
Mechanism: Rotating bolt, gas operated, air cooled, semi-automatic magazine fed
Sights Front: Military square post
Rear: Military aperture with MOA adjustments for both windage and elevation. 26 3/4" sight radius
Capacity: 10 round box magazine*
Trigger Pull: 5 to 6 lbs., two-stage military trigger


I also have a CZ-83:

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p69/Papayafarmer/DSC01670.jpg)

Price   $452.00 USD
Ammunition   .32 AUTO (CZ-82) or .380 (CZ-83)
Magazine Capacity   15  (12+1 for the CZ-83)
Weight   1.760 lbs
Overall Length   6.770 in
Barrel Length   3.820 in
Height   5.000 in
Width   1.420 in
Frame   Steel
Grip   Plastic
Trigger Mech.   SA/DA
Sights   Fixed
Safety   Ambi Manual Sear Block Safety, Rebounding Hammer Safety

The M1A has match iron sights, and I added a scope mount and Bushnell scope (only until I can find a decent mil-dot scope graduated for 7.62).

I picked up my CZ in Germany back in '91. On the slide, it says "Made in Czeckoslovakia". The CZ was recently upgraded with Meprolite sights for low-light work. It's a joy to shoot.

People may think the .380 cartridge is a "kid's throwaway special", but I've taken deer with it.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Poser on September 11, 2012, 10:59:00 pm
(http://48pan.com/images/images/1903.jpg)

It's a 1903 Springfield 30-06 that I mount a cheap scope to. A six shot 200 yard target that I shot with it is pictured below. A couple of years after my dad died, I visited the local gun shop in a town near where he lived. The owner who I knew told me my dad had left something that I might want. He went out back and got this sporterized 03 Springfield. He said my dad had the rifle with a broken stock and had asked him to put a modern one on it and accurize it as much as possible. He sure did. My dad had that old beat-up rifle on the wall for 50 years. It has new life. (1958 surplus military ammo if you were wondering)

(http://48pan.com/images/images/target.jpg)
I guess he did a pretty good job.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Oceander on September 12, 2012, 02:18:22 am
(http://48pan.com/images/images/1903.jpg)

It's a 1903 Springfield 30-06 that I mount a cheap scope to. A six shot 200 yard target that I shot with it is pictured below. A couple of years after my dad died, I visited the local gun shop in a town near where he lived. The owner who I knew told me my dad had left something that I might want. He went out back and got this sporterized 03 Springfield. He said my dad had the rifle with a broken stock and had asked him to put a modern one on it and accurize it as much as possible. He sure did. My dad had that old beat-up rifle on the wall for 50 years. It has new life. (1958 surplus military ammo if you were wondering)

(http://48pan.com/images/images/target.jpg)
I guess he did a pretty good job.

Very nice!
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on September 17, 2012, 11:58:00 pm
Today's gun is probably my next purchase .
(http://images18.fotki.com/v674/photos/6/725846/7632987/2Saiga12_9Rounder-vi.jpg)

A Saiga Raptor 12 Gage.

 This shotgun is built on the famous AK-47 action that has been proven by years of very reliable combat action!

The shotgun comes with 12-ga. smooth bored barrel and the chamber which accepts the ammo equipped with shot or slugs including "Magnum" cartridges with
70mm (2-3/4") and 76 mm (3") cartridge case.

The shotgun is used to deliver single shots. It is reloaded automatically due to the energy of powder combustion gases bled from the barrel bore through the barrel port. The shotgun may be equipped with a sight leaf adjustable for windage and elevation, which makes zeroing and firing at moving targets more convenient. The gas motive unit is adjustable to match the parameters of internal ballistics inherent to the standard cartridges and "Magnum" cartridges, as well. For the purpose of diversifying operational capabilities the shotgun may be equipped with muzzle adapters of different chokes, including the muzzle adapter "Paradox".

The prices really vary, from about $700 to $2500 depending on the configuration. The great thing is they are easy to customize so like a good AR, you can start with a basic and build up. Nothing special about the rounds, standard 12 gage are fine (Under $10 for 25).
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Poser on September 18, 2012, 12:12:18 am
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TGCKtKOPFDo/UFe7biIMNvI/AAAAAAAAAAk/3FNHx-f8Ek4/s640/ccarry2.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-05DH-748mYk/UFe7bmzVjmI/AAAAAAAAAAo/DNAcBLQYoBw/s640/ccarry1.jpg)

Ruger LCP .380 in wallet holster. Small and completely invisible when carried like a wallet. I've been carrying it on hot days for about a year. I prefer the 9mm when I have a jacket with a bigger pocket.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: wolfcreek on September 18, 2012, 11:35:45 am
Nice and affordable.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: massadvj on September 18, 2012, 12:01:18 pm
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TGCKtKOPFDo/UFe7biIMNvI/AAAAAAAAAAk/3FNHx-f8Ek4/s640/ccarry2.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-05DH-748mYk/UFe7bmzVjmI/AAAAAAAAAAo/DNAcBLQYoBw/s640/ccarry1.jpg)

Ruger LCP .380 in wallet holster. Small and completely invisible when carried like a wallet. I've been carrying it on hot days for about a year. I prefer the 9mm when I have a jacket with a bigger pocket.

I own a Ruger SR9C compact 9mm with an interchangeable grip.  If I put on the small grip, would it fit in this little wallet?  I think that is pretty cool.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Poser on September 18, 2012, 10:07:07 pm
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-uJAjRDGugKc/UFjrb22pwOI/AAAAAAAAABI/jD8HOjM5hEc/s616/KeltecRuger.jpg)
Here is my Keltec PF9 next to the Ruger LCP .380. The two holsters on the right are for the LCP and the one for the PF9 is on the left. As you can see, the PF9 is considerably larger and much more difficult to conceal in a pants pocket. It works fine in a coat pocket.

The two leather holsters are from pocketholster.com and the cheap one is labeled "Action Holsters by Ramsey" There are plenty of good ones but the cheap plastic one from Ramsey that I found at a biker event is the smallest, lightest and most comfortable.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Poser on September 20, 2012, 05:07:11 pm
(http://48pan.com/images/images/guns4.jpg)

My gun of the day!

Para-ordinance LDA TAC-S .45 ACP
Fabulous double action trigger
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: aligncare on October 09, 2012, 05:38:03 pm
You're right, it's not America, it's New York, in particular, New York City (apparently, in the upstate counties many of the sheriffs are a little more "relaxed" about citizens having firearms).  The ironic thing is, the firearm laws, which essentially give government officials complete discretion to deny, or limit, a person's right to own a firearm, were originally enacted by the Anglo-Saxon elite in order to keep down the teeming immigrants, like the Irish and the Italians.  Now those laws are applied to all, including those who were responsible for them.  They have also proven that the effect - keeping people down - is real and that banning firearm ownership is a significant means of keeping a population cowed and under control.

I was read the riot act when I contacted an upstate gun deal about what to do with my guns before I move here.  He said in no uncertain terms to get them legal, do not risk possessing unlicensed guns--not in New York state and certain not in NYC.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: mountaineer on October 09, 2012, 05:45:18 pm
I have a question for you all: does it make sense to buy a variety of guns when you'll have to buy so many types of ammunition, or just stick to a few within the same "family" of ammo? We own three weapons currently - two handguns and a rifle -  each requiring its own type of ammunition. Much as I'd like to have additional guns, I don't like the thought of having to purchase all the different calibers of ammo.  What do you think?
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: PzLdr on October 09, 2012, 06:10:38 pm
I have a question for you all: does it make sense to buy a variety of guns when you'll have to buy so many types of ammunition, or just stick to a few within the same "family" of ammo? We own three weapons currently - two handguns and a rifle -  each requiring its own type of ammunition. Much as I'd like to have additional guns, I don't like the thought of having to purchase all the different calibers of ammo.  What do you think?

If you're talking defense or WTSHTF, I'd stick to:
    Handguns: .357 [also shoots .38 Special], .45 ACP, 9 mm, .22 LR
    Rifles: .22 LR, .223 [or 5.56], .308 or 30-06. For hunting, I might add a 30-30
    Shotguns: 12 or 20 gage.

You want to go w/ ammo that's readily available.  :patriot: :police: :smokin:
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: mountaineer on October 09, 2012, 06:26:21 pm
Thanks for the info. As we have a .22 LR rifle, I was thinking of getting a .22 handgun as well.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Poser on October 11, 2012, 07:48:08 pm
A .38 special/.357 revolver is a must for every arsenal. It will shoot mild target loads and heavy defensive loads equally well. If you don't plan to carry it concealed, buy a 4" or 6" barrel. It will give you a better accuracy at the range.

Personally, if I could only have one gun, it would be a 1911 .45ACP semi-automatic pistol.
In order, here are my guns of choice:

.45 1911
.38/.357 Revolver
12 Gauge pump shotgun
30-06 1903 Springfield bolt action rifle
Ruger MarkII Bull Barrel .22 pistol
Glock 17 9mm
AR15

I have lots of others but those are the essentials for every collection. If you learn to make your own ammo you will be able to shoot about three times as much for about the same price. You don't save any money by reloading. You just shoot more. A regular afternoon at the range is about 500 rounds for me. The cost is about $30 and I won't be shooting many .22's. I can make 500 rounds of a single handgun caliber in a little over 2 hours with a relatively inexpensive progressive press (RL550b).

Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Poser on October 11, 2012, 07:59:42 pm
Here are some guns of my day, today:
(http://48pan.com/images/images/guns3.jpg)

Clockwise from upper left:
  Glock 17 9mm with ported barrel
  Colt series 70 .45ACP 1911 with ambidextrous safety and flared ejection port
  S&W 686 Stainless .357 revolver with 6" barrel and 3 lb trigger job
  Pre-war Walther PP .32ACP - Bone Stock

I love gun porn!
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Oceander on October 12, 2012, 03:37:11 am
That's a well-used S&W
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Poser on October 12, 2012, 04:53:47 am
That's a well-used S&W
The petina is accentuated by the lighting but the blue looks great too.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Oceander on October 12, 2012, 03:39:47 pm
The petina is accentuated by the lighting but the blue looks great too.

I love the S&W .357 6".  I had a friend once who had one; I used to offer to buy the day's ammo if he'd let me shoot half of it.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Poser on October 12, 2012, 10:04:17 pm
(http://48pan.com/images/images/guns2.jpg)
Todays Guns (the thread IS called Gun of the Day) clockwise from the upper left:

Ruger MKII Government Model .22
Star Firestar 9mm
Makarov 9x18mm (Russian)
Taurus PT945 .45ACP
S&W Model 41 .22

The Model 41 is way more expensive than the Ruger MKII, but for some reason, I'm more accurate with the Ruger.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Oceander on October 16, 2012, 10:49:14 am
(http://48pan.com/images/images/guns2.jpg)
Todays Guns (the thread IS called Gun of the Day) clockwise from the upper left:

Ruger MKII Government Model .22
Star Firestar 9mm
Makarov 9x18mm (Russian)
Taurus PT945 .45ACP
S&W Model 41 .22

The Model 41 is way more expensive than the Ruger MKII, but for some reason, I'm more accurate with the Ruger.

A gun a day keeps the (Obamacare) doctor away!  (or something like that; look, I'm terrible at thinking up even crude limericks)
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on November 12, 2012, 11:22:59 pm
I apologize for neglecting this topic for a while. Election and all... you know... with the potential reprisal of the AWB, I decided to post today a gun that usually falls first victim to all gun bans. The AK-47. Very few will argue, this is one of the best guns ever made. It is also highly plentiful so the prices aren't too high (it varies greatly but you can get a good one at a gun show for around $500.)

(http://cheaperthandirt.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/62565.jpg)

Cheaper than Dirt has given us a buyer's guide to help in choosing.
http://cdn2.cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=465

Quote
This article is intended to help the first time AK buyer get the necessary information to make an informed purchase of an AK-47 or AK-74 rifle.

This is not for the current AK owner and collector, and as such, you may feel unchallenged by this information. That’s OK. We still love to have you here. Feel free to read along with us anyway.
Century International Arms M70AB Underfolder Rifle

Century International Arms M70AB Underfolder Rifle

Here, we are only talking about purchasing the civilian legal semi-automatic version of the “Automatic Kalashnikov Model 47″ or AK-47, which can go by many trade names and designations, but is still a rose by any other name.

Today’s semi-automatic AK market is flooded with Kalashnikovs ranging from marginal to excellent quality. You may find that the deciding factor is your “hip-pocket national bank” (your wallet). We can work with you as well as the guy with deep pockets who is ready to buy but just needs a push in the right direction. Let’s begin.
Some Basics

The AK-47 and AK-74 rifles are by far the most produced modern small arms in the world. Some estimates are as high as 100 million copies. That means the AK accounts for one out of every five firearms in the world. In addition, they are quite the “bad-boy” of the firearms world. There is good reason for this. The AK has earned a reputation for being an extremely reliable weapon under all possible conditions. This is a good thing. Since it is such a good weapon, and the full auto version is relatively cheap on the international black market, many find it to be their weapon of choice, especially gangs and drug traffickers, not to mention terrorists in all parts of the world. Also, the US military has faced the AK-47 in just about every conflict from Vietnam to the present day–thus, the “bad-boy” reputation. You should have already gotten over the “not invented here” syndrome or you would not be thinking about buying one to start with. Believe it or not, and much to their loss, many folks suffer from this malady.

To keep a mental tab on how long the AK has been in service, the AK-47 was introduced in 1947 and the AK-74 in 1974. Pretty easy to remember, huh? Actually, this method of model numbering is common to the European world where the rifle is simply named after the year it was designed or introduced.

The 7.62x39mm round has good stopping power and can be favorably compared to the .30-30 cartridge. 7.62x39mm is plentiful in that countless ship loads of ammo have been brought into the US over the last 20 years, to the extent it is virtually a universal cartridge. The AK-74 5.45x39mm round is a bit less well known. It is essentially the Soviet answer to the 5.56 NATO round. For the past few years, inexpensive (and corrosive) surplus 5.45 ammo has been available, but it seems to be drying up. New production ammunition is still available in great numbers, so ammo availability isn’t a factor. The AK is also available in 5.56 NATO for those who would find that convenient. Most folks looking to buy their first AK will stick with the original 7.62×39 caliber.
75 Round Magazine

75 Round Magazine

A LOT more here: http://cdn2.cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=465
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Ford289HiPo on November 16, 2012, 02:06:58 am
Gun of the day. Today, my personal concealed carry choice for every-day carry. The Walther PPK/s.

(and not just because I am a big Bond fan and collector)

(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w22/MickeyD1/WaltherPPKs.jpg)



    Walther® PPK/S Pistol
    Manufacturer Number: VAH38001
    Action: Single/Double
    Caliber; .380 ACP
    Capacity: 7 Round
    Features:
        Firing Pin Safety
        Manual Safety with Decocking Function
        Double Action and Single Action Trigger
        Extended Beaver Tail
    Barrel Length: 3.35 Inch
    Overall Length: 6.1 Inch
    Sights: Fixed
    Weight (Empty): 22.4 Ounces


Before someone talks about the stopping power of the .380, consider this.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_-IBzbM_RoeE/TGLYQ4m23fI/AAAAAAAAC90/iouv2t4RE4A/s1600/hstj.jpg)

It doesn't have the energy of the .45 but the lack of energy will cause the bullet to stay in the target longer versus going right through. Maybe not the best against a large bear, but for the average tweaked out crack-head mugger, it will work quite well.

(http://www.handgunsmag.com/files/2010/09/hg_criticaldef_200903-a.jpg)




The .380 is a good round. I have actually knocked down deer with it, and I am more comfortable using it as a home defense round since it won't blast through every wall in the house.
BTW- My .380 weapon is a CZ83, and my Walther PP is a .32cal.
Sort of ironic.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Ford289HiPo on November 16, 2012, 02:12:09 am
I have a question for you all: does it make sense to buy a variety of guns when you'll have to buy so many types of ammunition, or just stick to a few within the same "family" of ammo? We own three weapons currently - two handguns and a rifle -  each requiring its own type of ammunition. Much as I'd like to have additional guns, I don't like the thought of having to purchase all the different calibers of ammo.  What do you think?

Your choice. I have 6 weapons in my house, all of different calibres, but only two hands. I'd also like to get something in 5.7mm, .22cal, .40cal, and .17HMR
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: massadvj on November 16, 2012, 02:44:15 am
I have a question for you all: does it make sense to buy a variety of guns when you'll have to buy so many types of ammunition, or just stick to a few within the same "family" of ammo? We own three weapons currently - two handguns and a rifle -  each requiring its own type of ammunition. Much as I'd like to have additional guns, I don't like the thought of having to purchase all the different calibers of ammo.  What do you think?

I like my Mossburg 500 shotgun, but with three barrels, I have to buy three types of ammo for one weapon: slugs, buckshot and bird shot.  One the other hand, it's the only rifle I own or really need to own.  It's weak as a long-range deer rifle, but it'll do the job.  Can't be beat for short and intermediate range.

My hand gun is Ruger 9MM.  I think if I got another one, I'd go bigger, maybe 357 or 45.  But then that would be five varieties of ammo for just three guns.  And ammo ain't cheap these days.  My Sportmens Club says range use is way down this year because the cost of ammo is so high. 
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Oceander on November 16, 2012, 03:51:54 pm
I like my Mossburg 500 shotgun, but with three barrels, I have to buy three types of ammo for one weapon: slugs, buckshot and bird shot.  One the other hand, it's the only rifle I own or really need to own.  It's weak as a long-range deer rifle, but it'll do the job.  Can't be beat for short and intermediate range.

My hand gun is Ruger 9MM.  I think if I got another one, I'd go bigger, maybe 357 or 45.  But then that would be five varieties of ammo for just three guns.  And ammo ain't cheap these days.  My Sportmens Club says range use is way down this year because the cost of ammo is so high. 

Oooh!  I love the Ruger 9mm!  I used to have one when I lived in VA.  Had a little Browning .22 auto pistol too; that had a tendency to jam, however, when ejecting spent casings.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: massadvj on November 16, 2012, 04:48:09 pm
Oooh!  I love the Ruger 9mm!  I used to have one when I lived in VA.  Had a little Browning .22 auto pistol too; that had a tendency to jam, however, when ejecting spent casings.

My Ruger used to jam once in a while, but now that it is broken in, it never does.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Oceander on November 16, 2012, 07:17:29 pm
My Ruger used to jam once in a while, but now that it is broken in, it never does.

:silly:  My Ruger never jammed, not once.  It was the p86, all black, kinda like this one:

(http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/images/handguns/usa/2/1287744704.jpg)
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: massadvj on November 16, 2012, 08:22:39 pm
I have an SR9C.  What's cool about it is that it is a nice little conceal and carry with the 9-bullet clip, but you can put on the 17-bullet clip to extend the handle if you want more firepower.  Here it is each way.

(http://picturearchive.auctionarms.com/1915132503/9704506/ruger%20001.jpg_thumbnail1.jpg)

(http://forum.gon.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=488784&stc=1&d=1268366275)
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Poser on November 16, 2012, 08:26:04 pm
, and my Walther PP is a .32cal.

I have a pre-WWII Walther PP in .32ACP. It's a nicely made gun but you can get a 9mm now that is as small and light.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: TheMom on November 18, 2012, 02:03:27 am
I suck at linking pictures, but here is the link to what Santa is getting me for Christmas this year ~ http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firearms/bigbore/1895SBL.asp.

Do I need that powerful of a gun when I don't hunt ~ no.

Does Santa need to spend that much money on a gun that will only be shot four or six times a year ~ no.

Is it beautiful ~ yes!

Will it kill zombies ~ yes!

Also, you never know when a herd of elephants might swarm the neighborhood!
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on November 18, 2012, 02:50:53 am
Very nice. You could hunt some grizzly bear with that.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Oceander on November 18, 2012, 03:30:42 am
I suck at linking pictures, but here is the link to what Santa is getting me for Christmas this year ~ http://www.marlinfirearms.com/firearms/bigbore/1895SBL.asp.

Do I need that powerful of a gun when I don't hunt ~ no.

Does Santa need to spend that much money on a gun that will only be shot four or six times a year ~ no.

Is it beautiful ~ yes!

Will it kill zombies ~ yes!

Also, you never know when a herd of elephants might swarm the neighborhood!


Very nice!

Here's the zoomed in pic:

(http://www.marlinfirearms.com/images/bigbore/zoom_1895sbl.jpg)
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: TheMom on November 18, 2012, 02:12:12 pm
Thanks!  I am both apprehensive & excited about shooting that rifle.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on November 19, 2012, 12:17:49 am
On the other end of the scale, my in-laws are in town this weekend and tomorrow we are taking out a Marlin 817 that shoots a .17HMR. This uses a .22 magnum scaled down to .17. A real test of skill. It uses almost a rifled type bullet versus the normal .22.

Here is a .22 Long Rifle versus a .17 HMR.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/17HMR_and_22LR_B.jpg/220px-17HMR_and_22LR_B.jpg)

I'll give a report tomorrow night.

In other news, picked up a gem at a gun show today. A British Enfield 303. Needs some work but a nice classic to add to the collection.
(http://i47.tinypic.com/29wqveq.jpg)

Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Ford289HiPo on November 19, 2012, 03:43:43 am
I have a pre-WWII Walther PP in .32ACP. It's a nicely made gun but you can get a 9mm now that is as small and light.

I purchased my Walther PP from a German Polezei when I was stationed overseas. The guy carried that same weapon for his entire 20+ year career. I got the original plastic box it came in, two mags, and the holster. It's not worth much, but it has some history to it.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Ford289HiPo on November 19, 2012, 03:47:11 am
On the other end of the scale, my in-laws are in town this weekend and tomorrow we are taking out a Marlin 817 that shoots a .17HMR. This uses a .22 magnum scaled down to .17. A real test of skill. It uses almost a rifled type bullet versus the normal .22.

Here is a .22 Long Rifle versus a .17 HMR.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5f/17HMR_and_22LR_B.jpg/220px-17HMR_and_22LR_B.jpg)

I'll give a report tomorrow night.

In other news, picked up a gem at a gun show today. A British Enfield 303. Needs some work but a nice classic to add to the collection.
(http://i47.tinypic.com/29wqveq.jpg)


I like the .17HMR because it's a darn good varmint round. I wish the rifles would come in a semi-auto though. I've only seen bolt action .17HMR's
The .22 will always be a contender just because of the low price for a brick of ammo.

Sweet looking Enfield you have there ^-^
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: wolfcreek on November 19, 2012, 12:48:40 pm
For those who wish to buy American and have a rifle that shoots common handgun rounds:

http://henryrepeating.com/rifle-big-boy.cfm

Just like in the ol' West.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: wolfcreek on November 19, 2012, 12:55:08 pm
I like the .17HMR because it's a darn good varmint round. I wish the rifles would come in a semi-auto though. I've only seen bolt action .17HMR's
The .22 will always be a contender just because of the low price for a brick of ammo.

Sweet looking Enfield you have there ^-^

Have a friend who shoots deer with the .17 (head shots only) for maximum meat. Just can't do that with the .22 rim fire. [legally]

An AR type rifle that shoots .17 would be cool.....wait a minute..

http://www.shootingillustrated.com/index.php/17272/alexander-arms-17-hmr/

(http://www.shootingillustrated.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/DSC1923CLIP1.jpg)
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: TheMom on November 19, 2012, 01:14:48 pm
In other news, picked up a gem at a gun show today. A British Enfield 303. Needs some work but a nice classic to add to the collection.
(http://i47.tinypic.com/29wqveq.jpg)
Nice!
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: TheMom on November 19, 2012, 01:23:29 pm
For those who wish to buy American and have a rifle that shoots common handgun rounds:

http://henryrepeating.com/rifle-big-boy.cfm

Just like in the ol' West.

My husband bought the .45 this summer.  That baby is really sweet & shoots like a dream.
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: ABX on November 19, 2012, 10:27:31 pm
Range report on the .17 HMR. We used the Marlin 917 (made a mistake earlier up-thread identifying it as the 817). Very similar to this gun.
(http://johno.myiglou.com/images/marlin917v.JPG)

You can find them on Gun Broker for under $200.  The bullets are only slightly more expensive than .22, running around $12/50 rounds.



I love, love, love this gun. You have to try to miss with this. We got to the .17 after shooting about 50 rounds though my Mosin and my FIL's Springfield so we were already having that subconscious reaction to the big kick of those. Even with this, the shooting results from the .17 was great. This was 100 yards with a 7 power scope.

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/1034_10151542178261632_408201364_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Ford289HiPo on November 20, 2012, 12:56:17 am

Have a friend who shoots deer with the .17 (head shots only) for maximum meat. Just can't do that with the .22 rim fire. [legally]

An AR type rifle that shoots .17 would be cool.....wait a minute..

http://www.shootingillustrated.com/index.php/17272/alexander-arms-17-hmr/

I read that article and gnashed my teeth the entire time. I'm not a fan of the Mighty Mattel (aka Barbie toy for boys).
In the article, it states that the .17HMR is nothing more than a necked down .22mag, so I still wonder why it doesn't lend itself to a larger selection of semi-auto configurations. Even in the configuration shown, I wonder why the major changes. When I was in the Army Reserves, we used a .22cal conversion kit in our M16's for our yearly weapons qualification. I don't recall ever having had a problem.

BTW- a well placed chest shot with a .17HMR will drop a deer in it's tracks. My neighbor did that ^-^
Title: Re: Gun of the Day
Post by: Ford289HiPo on November 20, 2012, 01:00:26 am
Range report on the .17 HMR. We used the Marlin 917 (made a mistake earlier up-thread identifying it as the 817). Very similar to this gun.
(http://johno.myiglou.com/images/marlin917v.JPG)

You can find them on Gun Broker for under $200.  The bullets are only slightly more expensive than .22, running around $12/50 rounds.



I love, love, love this gun. You have to try to miss with this. We got to the .17 after shooting about 50 rounds though my Mosin and my FIL's Springfield so we were already having that subconscious reaction to the big kick of those. Even with this, the shooting results from the .17 was great. This was 100 yards with a 7 power scope.

(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/1034_10151542178261632_408201364_n.jpg)

Nice shooting!