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Title: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: famousdayandyear on September 21, 2013, 01:50:23 pm
http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/21/world/africa/kenya-mall-gunbattle/index.html?hpt=hp_t2 (http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/21/world/africa/kenya-mall-gunbattle/index.html?hpt=hp_t2)


At least 20 killed when gunmen ambush Nairobi shopping mall, Red Cross says
By Faith Karimi and Zain Verjee, CNN
updated 9:31 AM EDT, Sat September 21, 2013

(video @ link)

(CNN) -- Gunmen ambushed an upscale shopping mall in the Kenyan capital on Saturday, leading to a fierce gunbattle with police and at least 20 people killed, the Kenyan Red Cross said.

Fifty people more people were wounded in the attack at the mall in Nairobi, said Abbas Gullet, head of the Kenyan Red Cross.

The gunmen burst into the mall and shot indiscriminately, taking some people hostage, according to a senior Kenyan government source.

It was unclear how many hostages the attackers took, but police are trying to negotiate for their release and retake the building, according to the source.

Attackers appear to be of Somali origin, a Kenyan government source and Western diplomatic sources told CNN.

The military asked local media not to televise anything live because the gunmen are watching the screens in the mall.

Crowds fled down the streets as soldiers in military fatigues crawled under cars to get closer to the mall, guns cocked.

Surveillance helicopters flew overhead.

"We urge Kenyans to keep off Westgate mall, adjacent roads and its environs until further notice," the Interior Ministry said on its Twitter page.

It declined to release further information, saying it will issue a statement later.

"We're doing our job to ensure that everyone is evacuated to safety," the ministry said. "This is a scene of crime, let police do their job."

CNN affiliate NTV reported multiple shooters were at the scene and terrified shoppers were hiding inside the mall, which is popular among expatriates and the wealthy.

The high-end mall opened six years ago, and has more than 80 stores.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: mountaineer on September 21, 2013, 02:20:46 pm
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Attackers appear to be of Somali origin
Big surprise.

NAIROBI (Reuters) - Gunmen stormed a shopping mall in Nairobi on Saturday killing at least 15 people in what Kenya's government said might be a terrorist attack, and sending scores fleeing into shops, a cinema and onto the streets in search of safety.

Sporadic gun shots could be heard hours after the assault started as soldiers surrounded the mall and police combed the building, hunting down the attackers shop by shop. Some local television stations reported hostages had been taken, but there was no official confirmation.

The Somali militant group al Shabaab, which Kenya blames for shootings, bombings and grenade attacks against churches and the security forces, had threatened to strike the Westgate mall, popular with the city's expatriate community. The chain of attacks follows action by Kenyan forces against al Qaeda-linked militants in Somalia two years ago.

Police helicopters circled above the mall as armed police shouted "get out, get out", and scores of shoppers fled the building. Smoke poured out of one entrance and witnesses said they heard grenade blasts.

Others said they saw about five armed assailants storm the Westgate shopping mall and that the incident appeared to be an attack rather than an armed robbery.

"They don't seem like thugs, this is not a robbery incident," said Yukeh Mannasseh who was on the mall's top floor when the shooting started. "It seems like an attack. The guards who saw them said they were shooting indiscriminately."

Kenya's Ministry of Interior said: "It is a possibility that it is an attack by terrorists, so we are treating the matter very seriously.".

Asked if foreign security services were involved in the operation to flush out the attackers, he said, "At this stage it has not become necessary yet."

One eyewitness who identified himself as Taha said he heard the screech of brakes followed moments later by an explosion and then sustained gun fire from the ground floor.

Another survivor said he was shot by a man who looked Somali.

Some shoppers ran up stairs and escalators and hid around the mall's cinema complex. Police found another terrified group hiding in a toilet on the first floor.

At least two dozen wounded were wheeled out on stretchers and shopping trolleys. Many of the victims had multiple light wounds, apparently from flying debris. Other walked out, some with bloodied clothing wrapped around wounds.

The Kenyan Red Cross told Reuters at least 15 had been killed and more casualties were still inside the complex.

"The casualties are many, and that's only what we have on the outside," Kenya Red Cross Society Secretary General Abbas Guled said. "Inside there are even more casualties and shooting is still going on."

"CARNAGE"

Al Shabaab have previously threatened to launch strikes on Nairobi's tower blocks and soft targets including nightclubs and hotels known to be popular with Westerners in the capital. But they have so far failed to carry out such an attack.

"I personally touched the eyes of four people and they were dead. One of them was a child," said one former British soldier at the scene.

"It's carnage up there."

Asked if the attack was a robbery, one paramilitary officer said: "No, terrorist". There has, though, been no official statement from the police regarding the attackers' motive.

Police cordoned off the roads surrounding the mall in central Nairobi's Westlands neighborhood.

Satpal Singh, who was in another cafe on the mall's top floor said he ran downstairs when he heard the gunfire and was shot at near the mall's main exit.

"A Somali guy shot at me. The guy who shot me was carrying a rifle, an AK-47," 36-year-old Singh said.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: mountaineer on September 21, 2013, 02:39:04 pm
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... One witness claimed gunmen told Muslims to stand up and leave and that only non-Muslims would be targeted.

Security guards were seen wheeling out bloodstained bodies in shopping trolleys from upmarket mall in the Westlands district of the city, witnesses said, after the attack that broke out at midday today.

Locals and tourists who had come out shopping on the sunny Saturday morning ran screaming from the building and cars were left abandoned as attackers threw grenades and fired AK47s.  ...
More at Daily Mail U.K. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2427892/Nairobi-mall-Gunmen-massacred-15-Kenyan-shopping-centre-targeted-non-Islamics.html#ixzz2fXQdi9mV)
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: happyg on September 21, 2013, 03:38:35 pm
Gunmen threw grenades and opened fire Saturday killing at least 10 people in an attack targeting non-Muslims at an upscale mall in Kenya's capital that was hosting a children's day event, witnesses said.

A local hospital was overwhelmed with the number of wounded being brought in hours after the attack, so they had to divert them to a second facility.

Elijah Kamau, who was at the mall at the time of the midday attack, said that the gunmen made a declaration that non-Muslims would be targeted.

"The gunmen told Muslims to stand up and leave. They were safe, and non-Muslims would be targeted," he said.

Manish Turohit, 18, said he saw gunmen with AK-47s and vests with hand grenades on them inside the mall before he escaped to hide in a parking garage for two hours.

"They just came in and threw a grenade. We were running and they opened fire. They were shouting and firing," he said after being marched out of the mall in line with about 15 people who held their hands in the air.

Rob Vandijk, who works at the Dutch embassy, said he was eating at a restaurant inside the mall when attackers lobbed hand grenades inside the building. He said gunfire then burst out and people screamed as they dropped to the ground.

It appears the attack began at the outdoor seating area of Artcaffe at the front of the mall, witnesses said.

Patrick Kuria, an employee at Artcaffe, said: "We started by hearing gunshots downstairs and outside. Later we heard them come inside. We took cover. Then we saw two gunmen wearing black turbans. I saw them shoot."

Some people were shot at the entrance to the mall after volleys of gunfire moved outside and a standoff with police began. Ambulances continued to stream in and out of the mall area, ferrying the wounded who were gradually emerging from hiding inside the mall.

Many of those running from the mall clutched small children. Others were crying. Mall guards used shopping carts to wheel out wounded children.

Associated Press journalists at the mall said they saw at least 10 dead bodies and dozens wounded hours after the attack began. Officials did not yet give an official death toll.

"We are treating this as a terrorist attack," said police chief Benson Kibue, adding that there are likely no more than 10 attackers involved. Gunfire continued to be exchanged outside the mall, as a group of people remained in hiding inside the building.

Police did not say what group was responsible for the attack.

Somali's rebel group al-Shabab vowed in late 2011 to carry out a large-scale attack in Nairobi in retaliation for Kenya's sending of troops into Somalia to fight the Islamic insurgents.

The Westgate Mall is situated in Nairobi's affluent Westlands area and is frequented by expatriates and rich Kenyans.


Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/09/21/attack-on-nairobi-mall-kills-10-people/?intcmp=latestnews#ixzz2fXfptMij
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: Oceander on September 21, 2013, 05:43:29 pm
Kenya - and Nairobi - just aren't what they used to be.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: mountaineer on September 21, 2013, 06:33:04 pm
Photos at the Daily Mail link, above.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: Atomic Cow on September 21, 2013, 06:44:23 pm
Merged duplicate threads since both had replies.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: mystery-ak on September 21, 2013, 08:44:32 pm
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/09/21/witness-kenya-mall-attackers-target-non-muslims/2846319/ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/09/21/witness-kenya-mall-attackers-target-non-muslims/2846319/)

Americans among injured in deadly Kenya mall attack
Laura Petrecca, USA TODAY 4:38 p.m. EDT September 21, 2013

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At least 30 people were killed during a Saturday afternoon shooting rampage at a shopping mall in an upscale district of Nairobi. The attack is believed to be orchestrated by extremists against non-Muslim Kenyans and Westerners in the area.

CNN said that at least 100 were also injured, while the Red Cross reported the number of deceased.

Somali militant group al-Shabaab on Twitter claimed responsibility for the deadly shooting, which was allegedly carried out by five to 10 gunmen with AK-47s and other sophisticated weapons. Al-Shabaab said the attack was retribution for Kenyan forces' 2011 push into Somalia and threatened more violence.

"The Mujahideen entered #Westgate Mall today at around noon and are still inside the mall, fighting the #Kenyan Kuffar inside their own turf," the group said on Twitter.

"What Kenyans are witnessing at #Westgate is retributive justice for crimes committed by their military," the group said.

Americans were among those injured at the Westgate mall shooting, according to a statement from Marie Harf, deputy spokesman for the State Department.

"We have reports of American citizens injured in the attack, and the U.S. Embassy is actively reaching out to provide assistance," she said. "Due to privacy considerations, we have no further comment on American citizens at this time."

The attack began on Saturday afternoon, according to Kenya's Daily Nation. Gunmen tossed grenades and opened fire as panicking shoppers fled the building, some jumping down one story from the second floor of the mall to escape, witnesses told the paper.

Nairobi Police Chief Benson Kibue deemed the shooting "a terrorist attack."

Witnesses told local and national news media that the gunman asked Muslims to leave before opening fire. Kenya is 83% Christian with a sizable Muslim community — about 11% of its 44 million people.

As night fell in Kenya's capital, hostages remained inside the mall, but officials didn't say how many people were held captive. Army special forces troops had moved inside the mall as well.

Off-duty Sgt. Major Frank Mugungu told the Associated Press that he saw four male attackers and one female, and that he could clearly identify one of the gunmen as a Somali, though he could not identify the rest.

Military cordoned off the building in the heart of the upscale Westlands district, which is home to upper-class Kenyans and expatriate Westerners — many of whom work for the United Nations — and a locale frequented by tourists.

A local organization was hosting a party for children at the Israeli-owned Westgate mall on Saturday. The mall is also a popular nightspot for hip, young Kenyans who gather there to watch movies or eat at restaurants there.

It is on Kenya's watch list as a site for attacks, along wi

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People who had been hiding during the gun battle hold their hands in the air as a precautionary measure before being searched by armed police leading them to safety, inside the Westgate Mall in Nairobi, Kenya on Sept. 21, 2013.(Photo: Jonathan Kalan, AP)

Like most shopping mall complexes in Nairobi, it is manned by security personnel at its entrance, checking bags and shoppers with metal detectors. But locals noted repeatedly in the aftermath of the attacks that these are just cursory checks and that the security guards are no match for armed gunman.

Still, security in the city is tight because of prior attacks in the past two decades, including one on the U.S. Embassy by al-Qaeda in 1998 that killed more than 200 people. Besides the threat of terrorism, the city faces its own internal threats — sometimes called "Nairobbery" — arising from extreme poverty and income inequality.

Crime and corruption are among the biggest concerns of the locals. The city is one of the most dangerous urban areas in sub-Saharan Africa. Although the situation is better than a decade ago, most middle-class and wealthy urban dwellers refrain from walking on city streets after dark, a situation that has led to the popularity of the city's shopping malls in its rich western districts as quasi-entertainment centers.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: famousdayandyear on September 21, 2013, 09:28:18 pm
Susan Rice:  This was caused by a heinous video that set these poor people off.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: famousdayandyear on September 21, 2013, 09:49:18 pm
http://legalinsurrection.com/ (http://legalinsurrection.com/)

Terrorist attack at Nairobi mall (Video @ Link)
Posted by neo-neocon      Saturday, September 21, 2013 at 4:05pm

There has been an attack by gunmen at an upscale Nairobi mall, killing at least 30 and wounding countless more. Hostages have also been taken.

An al Qaeda-linked Somalian-based group has claimed the credit—or the blame, depending on your outlook.

A mall attack on this scale has long been expected, since it would be relatively easy to get guns into the vast majority of such facilities and there is a huge concentration of unarmed potential victims milling about, including children who are perfect terrorist fodder. This particular mall catered to expatriates and the wealthy, all the more reason for terrorists to consider it a target-rich environment.

The CNN article just linked is a long one with many details, including the fact that the deed was most likely perpetrated by Islamic terrorists. But it omits several items found in this article at Fox, such as the fact that the mall was owned by an Israeli company, a special children’s day was being hosted there, and the terrorist group al-Shabab (the same one that had said the attack was their handiwork) had sworn in 2011 to attack Nairobi in retaliation for Kenya’s sending troops to Somalia to fight Islamic insurgents.

Also this:

    Elijah Kamau, who was at the mall at the time of the midday attack, said that the gunmen made a declaration that non-Muslims would be targeted.

    “The gunmen told Muslims to stand up and leave. They were safe, and non-Muslims would be targeted,” he said.

The CNN article, by the way, appears to disagree, saying the gunmen fired “indiscriminately.” But the Daily Mail also reports that at least one of the terrorists explicitly spared Muslims, asking people to recite a Muslim prayer in order to prove their religious affiliation.

Reports seem to agree that the attack began just outside the mall and then moved inside, and according to Fox there were armed police on the spot even at the outset. But there were multiple armed perpetrators; up to ten have been reported, and they also detonated grenades. They may have outnumbered the initial police on the scene, although backup arrived in the form of members of the military and/or more police, who then surrounded the mall.

[Neo-neocon is a writer with degrees in law and family therapy, who blogs at neo-neocon.]
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: famousdayandyear on September 21, 2013, 09:50:39 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rf_zwvubY0
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: Cincinnatus on September 21, 2013, 10:06:03 pm
I don't want anyone to think I am indifferent to this tragedy and the suffering and death it has caused, but I wish to remind you Kenya was home to the terrorist Mau Mau movement of the 1950s which led to Kenyan independence and the installation of Mau Mau leader Jomo Kenyatta as its first president in 1964.

You reap what you sow.

http://africanhistory.about.com/od/kenya/a/MauMauTimeline.htm
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: famousdayandyear on September 21, 2013, 10:23:18 pm
I don't want anyone to think I am indifferent to this tragedy and the suffering and death it has caused, but I wish to remind you Kenya was home to the terrorist Mau Mau movement of the 1950s which led to Kenyan independence and the installation of Mau Mau leader Jomo Kenyatta as its first president in 1964.

You reap what you sow.

http://africanhistory.about.com/od/kenya/a/MauMauTimeline.htm

Oops.  I forgot to include a history of Kenya.  Must, Remember, Not, To, Omit, Next, Time.
Thanks, Cincinnatus
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: mountaineer on September 21, 2013, 10:40:10 pm
Kenya also is home to a dear Christian friend of my family, who teaches at Kenyatta University in Nairobi (one of the people pictured below).
(http://www.ku.ac.ke/wellness/images/photos/group_photo_msa.jpg)
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: Cincinnatus on September 21, 2013, 10:43:49 pm
Mountaineer, I am not claiming all the people in Kenya were involved with the Mau Mau, nor even supported its actions. I also hope Kenyans are safe and don't suffer undue violence.

But I put it to you: who taught people like these gunmen that violence and terror are the way to achieve your political goals?
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: famousdayandyear on September 21, 2013, 11:06:25 pm
Mountaineer, I am not claiming all the people in Kenya were involved with the Mau Mau, nor even supported its actions. I also hope Kenyans are safe and don't suffer undue violence.

But I put it to you: who taught people like these gunmen that violence and terror are the way to achieve your political goals?

Mohammed?
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: famousdayandyear on September 21, 2013, 11:11:38 pm
Kenya also is home to a dear Christian friend of my family, who teaches at Kenyatta University in Nairobi (one of the people pictured below).
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Hope your friend was not affected by the attack today.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: DCPatriot on September 21, 2013, 11:22:10 pm
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At least 30 people were killed during a Saturday afternoon shooting rampage at a shopping mall in an upscale district of Nairobi. The attack is believed to be orchestrated by extremists against non-Muslim Kenyans and Westerners in the area.


Probably more going on here beside the religious angle.

It's a class struggle too.  Envy figures in. 

If you're an angry jihadist, you most likely are unemployed.  What 'joy' is there to kill a Walmart shopper?  [/s]
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: Cincinnatus on September 21, 2013, 11:28:51 pm
Probably more going on here beside the religious angle.

A report on TV (Fox News) said Kenyan forces have been in Somalia trying to aid in stabilizing the country's government. It further stated the Jihadis have been warning them to get out and go home.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: famousdayandyear on September 22, 2013, 12:02:28 am
http://weaselzippers.us/2013/09/21/hostages-still-being-held-at-the-mall-shooting-in-kenya/ (http://weaselzippers.us/2013/09/21/hostages-still-being-held-at-the-mall-shooting-in-kenya/)

Hostages are still being held at the mall shooting in Kenya.

    BREAKING: Hostages still held in Nairobi #Westgate mall, security operation continues

    — Agence France-Presse (@AFP) September 21, 2013

At least 39 people have been reported killed, another 150 injured.

The Westgate Mall was a mall frequented by expats and wealthy Kenyans. It was also Israeli-owned, making it an inviting target to terrorists.

Al-Shabab has claimed responsibility for the attack.

Hostages were forced to name the Prophet’s mother. If they could not, they were reportedly shot in the head.

NY Times Pulitzer Prize winning photojournalist Tyler Hicks was next door to the mall. He went in with some of the police and got some of the following pictures. Warning that some are graphic.

Nickarama | September 21, 2013 7:45 pm
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: famousdayandyear on September 22, 2013, 12:04:34 am
There are hot links at the site that I did not transpose in my post.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: famousdayandyear on September 22, 2013, 12:51:32 am
http://weaselzippers.us/2013/09/21/al-shabaab-live-tweeting-the-attack-at-nairobi-mall/tweets-aq-2/ (http://weaselzippers.us/2013/09/21/al-shabaab-live-tweeting-the-attack-at-nairobi-mall/tweets-aq-2/)

Al-Shabaab Live Tweeting The Attack At Nairobi Mall

Al-Shabaab was live tweeting the attack from a few different twitter accounts.

Here are some of the tweets:
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It’s funny how the Infidels cry, rushing with slag and insist on their teeth around small accidents while their armies kill Thousands of Muslims. # _ youth movement Mujahideen _ # Kenya

Defending Muslim land from any obligations after faith and protector of the enemy Aggressor is our right as Muslims. # _ youth movement Mujahideen _ # Nairobi # Kenya

Kenyans are uniting across Twitter reporting for spam al-Shabaab accounts like @HSMPress. The account was suspended and the Kenyans are hot on the trail of any replacement accounts.

The current accounts which appear to be them are @HSMPress_arabic and @HSMPress3 where they apologize for the loss of life, but claim it is necessary.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: mountaineer on September 22, 2013, 11:30:19 am
But I put it to you: who taught people like these gunmen that violence and terror are the way to achieve your political goals?
People with whom Barack Obama Sr. was in complete agreement, I'd wager.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: mountaineer on September 22, 2013, 12:26:28 pm
These are your people, Effin. Yours and Obama's. Spare us the crocodile tears and phony vows to fight terrorism.
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Statement from John Kerry on 'unspeakable evil' in Nairobi, Kenya
 September 22, 2013 8:00 AM 


Secretary of State
Washington, DC
September 21, 2013

Today's terrorist massacre of so many innocents is a heartbreaking reminder that there exists unspeakable evil in our world which can destroy life in a senseless instant. I want to express my deepest condolences - and the condolences of our entire nation - to the families and friends of the victims in Nairobi today. While the casualty count is still to be determined, we know already that there are at least 30 innocent men, women, and children dead and 60 injured, including several American citizens. We have offered our assistance to the Government of Kenya and stand ready to help in any way we can.

Although we have no reports of any Americans killed today, we have lost a member of our own State Department family: the wife of a foreign service national working for the U.S. Agency for International Development. The men and women of USAID work courageously around the world to help people striving for a better life. While we mourn with her family today, we also pledge our commitment to do whatever we can to assist in bringing the perpetrators of this abhorrent violence to justice, and to continue our efforts to improve the lives of people across the globe.

Attacks like this can't change who we are, a people committed to peace and justice for all, but rather must reaffirm our determination to counter extremism and promote tolerance everywhere. As we prepare to bring the world's leaders together at the United Nations next week, we are reminded again in tragedy of our common humanity.
Link (http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Statement+from+John+Kerry+unspeakable+evil+Nairobi+Kenya/8944070/story.html)
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: famousdayandyear on September 22, 2013, 02:59:03 pm
http://weaselzippers.us/ (http://weaselzippers.us/)

Israeli Special Forces Have Stormed The Mall With Kenyan Police To Rescue Hostages

    BREAKING UPDATE: Israeli Forces have entered #Westgate Shopping mall in Nairobi

    — News On The Min (@NewsOnTheMin) September 22, 2013

Via Haaretz, reports are that the special forces are storming the mall and rescuing hostages at this moment:

    Israeli forces have reportedly joined efforts to end a deadly siege by Somali militants at a Kenyan shopping mall, a security source told AFP Sunday.

    “The Israelis have just entered and they are rescuing the hostages and the injured,” AFP quoted the sourec as saying on condition he not be named.

    The attack by Al-Qaida-linked militants at the Nairobi killed at least 59 people and wounded 175, Kenya’s interior cabinet secretary said earlier Sunday.

    Multiple barrages of gunfire erupted Sunday morning from inside the building where there is a hostage standoff with Islamic extremists nearly 24 hours after they attacked using grenades and assault rifles.

    “The priority is to save as many lives as possible,” Joseph Lenku said, reassuring the families of the hostages in the upscale Westgate mall. Kenyan forces have already rescued about 1,000 people, he said.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: Scottftlc on September 22, 2013, 03:32:40 pm
My wife's reaction was priceless when I told her this Breaking headline:  "Good, somebody who knows what they're doing."
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: Oceander on September 22, 2013, 04:00:36 pm
In another era, that might have been US special forces; nowadays, all the US has left are "special farces" courtesy of the Clown-in-Chief.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: famousdayandyear on September 22, 2013, 05:02:33 pm
There are US Special Forces involved; maybe not the official lead, but they are there.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: flowers on September 22, 2013, 05:27:15 pm
Amazing these days with the net. 
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: Atomic Cow on September 22, 2013, 05:47:33 pm
I've merged all the threads about this into one so let's keep it here if possible.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: famousdayandyear on September 22, 2013, 05:55:48 pm
BBC reporting link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24193284 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24193284)
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: famousdayandyear on September 22, 2013, 06:09:44 pm

BBC Africa Verified account ‏@BBCAfrica

@KenyaRedCross reports: DEATH Toll rises to 68 after nine more bodies were recovered in the joint rescue mission #WestgateAttack
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: Atomic Cow on September 22, 2013, 07:43:35 pm
At least three of the attackers that have ignited a reign of terror on an upscale Kenyan mall killing dozens are from the United States, CNN reports.

CNN’s Sara Pratley, senior director of coverage at the news network, broke the news on Twitter Sunday afternoon.

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#cnn has learned from sources that two of the Kenya mall attackers are from Minnesota and one from Missouri.

42 minutes ago via Twitter for iPhoneReplyRetweetFavorite

@cnnsara
Sara Pratley

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/09/22/cnn-some-of-the-kenya-mall-attackers-are-from-u-s/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=ShareButtons
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: flowers on September 22, 2013, 07:46:19 pm
Al-Shabaab: Three Americans Among Gunmen in Kenya Mall
http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/09/22/al-shabaab-three-americans-among-gunmen-in-kenya-mall/?print=1
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Al-Shabaab is claiming that there are American gunmen among those still holed up in the Westgate mall in a standoff with Kenyan and Israeli special forces.

The Somali al-Qaeda affiliate tweeted a series of names on its latest account before Twitter against suspended the group. Al-Shabaab has been creating new accounts each time they get shut down but a movement of pro-Kenyan tweeters has been tracking down the new accounts and complaining to Twitter.

“We received permission to disclose the names of our mujahideen inside #Westgate,” their latest account tweeted.

They proceeded to tweet the names one by one, including Ahmed Mohamed Isse, 22, “native” of St. Paul, Minn., Abdifatah Osman Keenadiid, 24, of Minneapolis, and Gen Mustafe Noorudiin, 27, of Kansas City, Mo.

Al-Shabaab recently released a PR video targeted at Somali-Americans in Minnesota, trying to lure them to jihad as more than two dozen have already done so through the state’s “terror pipeline.” Three Americans — Abdisalan Hussein Ali, Farah Mohamed Beledi and Shirwa Ahmed — from Minnesota have been suicide bombers for Al-Shabaab in Mogadishu over the past few years.

Other gunmen were named as being from locations such as Finland, Canada, the UK., Somalia and Kenya. None of the names were female, even though witnesses reported a white woman among the shooters.

That’s raised speculation about whether “White Widow” Samantha Lewthwaite, a British widow of one of the 7/7 attackers who became an al-Qaeda paymaster, is involved in the attacks. Last year she was on the run in Kenya as international authorities tried to hunt her down.

Nine names were released; authorities have said 10 to 15 gunmen are still believed to be in the mall holding around 30 hostages, including possibly children. CNN International witnessed one grief-stricken man trying to break police lines to get into the mall, claiming that his kids are still inside.

The death toll in the terrorist attack rose to 68 today. More than 175 have been wounded.

The White House released a readout of President Obama’s call with Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta this morning that took the definitive step of naming Al-Shabaab as the culprits.

“President Obama called President Kenyatta of Kenya this morning to express condolences to the government and people of Kenya for the terrorist attack carried out by al-Shabaab yesterday on the Westgate Shopping Mall in Nairobi,” White House press secretary Jay Carney said. “President Obama reiterated U.S. support for Kenya’s efforts to bring the perpetrators of the attack to justice. The President also reaffirmed the strong and historic partnership between the United States and Kenya as well as our shared commitment to combating terrorism and promoting peace and prosperity in East Africa and around the world.”

Kenyatta, who’s been in office since March, confirmed today that his nephew and his nephew’s fiancee had been confirmed dead.

“We will punish the masterminds swiftly and painfully,” the Kenyan leader vowed.

Some reaction to the list of gunmen on a Somali online forum: “How is it possible that Al-shabab can recruit more boys from America than Kenya or Somalia? It’s as if their headquarters is in Washington D.C.”

“The FBI/CIA should go after their parents to send a message to any future recruits. The entire family should be stripped of USA/UK/Canadian citizenship and be deported to Somalia,” another Somali user wrote.

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Post by: flowers on September 22, 2013, 07:50:51 pm
Ten things you should know about the terrorists behind the Kenya mall attack

http://www.salon.com/2013/09/22/10_things_to_know_about_somali_militants_al_shabab/

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NAIROBI, Kenya (AP) — Here are 10 things to know about al-Shabab, the Somali Islamic extremist group that has claimed responsibility for the attack on Kenya’s premier shopping mall that killed dozens of civilians.

WHAT IS AL-SHABAB?

Al-Shabab is an extremist Islamic terrorist force that grew out of the anarchy that crippled Somalia after warlords ousted a longtime dictator in 1991. Its name means “The Youth” in Arabic, and it was a splinter youth wing of a weak Islamic Courts Union government created in 2006 to establish a fundamentalist Islamic state in the East African nation. Al-Shabab is estimated to have several thousand fighters, including a few hundred foreign fighters. Some of the insurgents’ foreign fighters are from the Middle East with experience in the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts. Others are young, raw recruits from Somali communities in the United States and Europe. U.S. officials have expressed fears that militants fleeing Afghanistan and Pakistan could seek refuge in Somalia.

WHERE IS AL-SHABAB?

Al-Shabab won control of almost all of Somalia’s capital, Mogadishu, in 2006, and held large swathes of central and southern Somalia until a United Nations-backed force from the African Union, including soldiers from neighboring Kenya and Uganda, pushed the militants out of the city in 2011 and out of the vital port of Kismayo in 2012. The rebels still control many rural areas in Somalia where it imposes strict Shariah law, including stoning to death women accused of adultery and amputating the hands of accused thieves. In addition it has staged deadly suicide bomb attacks on Mogadishu and Kismayo.

HOW MANY FIGHTERS DOES IT HAVE?

No one knows for sure, but al-Shabab is believed to command thousands of fighters including hundreds of foreigners.

WHY ARE THEY ATTACKING KENYA?

Al-Shabab has warned for two years that it will attack Kenya in retaliation for the country’s leading role in sending troops to Somalia in 2011 and effectively reducing the extremist group’s power in Somalia. Al-Shabab also claimed responsibility for the July 2010 suicide bombings in Kampala, Uganda, that killed more than 70 people watching a World Cup final soccer match at a restaurant popular among foreigners. Ugandan troops also are fighting in the African force in Somalia.

The group has staged ongoing major attacks within Somalia for years.

AL-QAIDA LINKS?
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Al-Shabab and al-Qaida in February 2012 announced their alliance, with al-Shabab leader Mukhtar Abu Zubair pledging allegiance to the global terror movement. Al-Qaida’s 2002 attacks on an Israeli-owned Kenyan resort in Mombasa and an attempted attack on a plane carrying Israeli tourists are believed to have been planned by an al-Qaida cell in Somalia. U.S. officials believe some of the al-Qaida terrorists who bombed the United States embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998 were given refuge in Somalia.

WHERE DOES AL-SHABAB’S MONEY COME FROM?

Before African troops moved in, al-Shabab was making a steady income from duties and fees levied at ports and airports as well as extorting taxes on domestic produce and demanding “jihadi” contributions. A United Nations report estimated al-Shabab’s income in 2011 at between $70 million and $100 million. It has lost most of that revenue since it was forced out of Mogadishu and Kismayo. Al-Shabab’s only ally in Africa is Eritrea — which backs it to counter its enemy Ethiopia, which also has troops in Somalia. Eritrea denies charges that it helps arm al-Shabab.

FRACTURED GROUP?

Al-Shabab is believed to have fractured over its alliance with al-Qaida, which caused a rift that has grown between core Shabab fighters who believe their struggle should focus on Somalia, and growing tensions with foreign fighters who want to plot a regional terrorist strategy. Analysts think attack on Nairobi’s Westgate mall could indicate the extremists are winning that internal struggle. Further divisions are believed to have been caused by the group’s decision to ban foreign aid organizations from operating in the country and providing food to save millions of victims of conflict-induced famine. That decision was announced in 2011, when the U.N. said Somalia had the world’s highest child mortality rate.

U.S. ROLE IN THE FIGHT AGAINST AL-SHABAB?

The United States backed the first African intervention against al-Shabab, supporting Ethopian troops that invaded in 2006. Washington has given millions of dollars to support the U.N.-backed African force fighting al-Shabab, which it designated a foreign terrorist organization in 2008. The intervention from Ethiopia, a longtime enemy of Somalia, is considered to have radicalized al-Shabab and perhaps pushed it into the arms of al-Qaida, according to the U.S.-based Center for Strategic and International Studies.

WHAT INSPIRES THEM?

Al-Shabab is inspired by the Saudi Arabian Wahabi version of Islam though most Somalis belong to the more moderate Sufi strain. While they initially won popularity with Somalis by promising security and stability after years of lawlessness and violence, al-Shabab’s destruction of Sufi shrines has cost them much support among locals.

WHAT DOES THE FUTURE HOLD FOR SOMALIA?

Somalia’s first elected government in more than two decades won power a year ago and, together with the African Union force, has the opportunity to create “a window of opportunity to fundamentally change Somalia’s trajectory,” according to the U.S. State Department. Business is growing and even foreign oil companies are negotiating concessions at the most hopeful moment in decades for that failed state.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: flowers on September 22, 2013, 07:51:24 pm
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The gang is allegedly being led by a woman

http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/ktn/video/watch/2000070164/-the-gang-is-allegedly-being-led-by-a-woman
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Post by: flowers on September 22, 2013, 08:07:24 pm
https://twitter.com/HSM_PRESOFFICE2

live tweet feed to the scumballs doing this
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Post by: musiclady on September 23, 2013, 02:21:52 am
At least three of the attackers that have ignited a reign of terror on an upscale Kenyan mall killing dozens are from the United States, CNN reports.

CNN’s Sara Pratley, senior director of coverage at the news network, broke the news on Twitter Sunday afternoon.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/09/22/cnn-some-of-the-kenya-mall-attackers-are-from-u-s/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=ShareButtons

Minnesota has a very large Somali population.

I'm thankful, but wonder why they didn't terrorize a mall there.
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Post by: Cincinnatus on September 23, 2013, 02:37:19 am
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The gang is allegedly being led by a woman

A report on Samantha Lewthwaite, a white British woman who converted to Islam and has now
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risen to a senior level in the Al Shabaab terror group who claimed responsibility for the Nairobi attack.

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Samantha Lewthwaite, 29, who is nicknamed 'The White Widow' is the world's most wanted woman after plotting to bomb the Kenyan city of Mombasa.

Since going on the run two years ago Lewthwaite has risen to a senior level in the Al Shabaab terror group who claimed responsibility for the Nairobi attack.

The attack, in which gunmen killed at least 59 people and wounded 175 others at a shopping mall, comes days after one of Lewthwaite's allies was killed.

Lewthwaite is the widow of King’s Cross bomber Jermaine Lindsay. 52 people were killed and over 700 injured in the terror attack eight years ago in the capital.

British bomb-maker Habib Ghani, a 28-year-old who called himself Osama al-Britani, was killed in a gun battle in Somalia on Friday 12 September...

Mother-of-three Lewthwaite is suspected of funding terrorist groups in Kenya and has an arrest warrant for bomb making charges in the country.

The soldier's daughter and Muslim convert is also suspected of being one of the masterminds behind the terrorist attack in London eight years ago.

Chemicals chemicals found in a raid on her home in Kenya in December 2010 included acetone and hydrogen peroxide, two of the key components of the terror attacks in London eight years ago.

A security source said: "That raises the prospect that Lewthwaite may have been more closely involved in the 7/7 attacks than previously thought.

"It might also explain her seniority as a top-rank Al Qaeda leader and the suspected chief financier of Al Shabaab."

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/431394/7-7-widow-on-the-run-is-at-the-heart-of-terror-group-behind-Kenya-shopping-centre-attack

Link contains several photos of Ms Lewthwaite.
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Post by: mountaineer on September 23, 2013, 11:57:31 am
Minnesota has a very large Somali population.
I'm thankful, but wonder why they didn't terrorize a mall there.
Especially the huge Mall of America. I'm still surprised terrorists haven't targeted a sporting event here. Organizing and carrying out a terror attack is not as complicated as the media seem to believe.
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Post by: mountaineer on September 23, 2013, 01:31:30 pm
It may not be the "White Widow" after all (or, at least, she wasn't on the scene):
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Kenyan commandos are close to ending the bloody siege of an upscale Nairobi shopping mall, the country’s Interior Minister Joseph Ole Lenku said Monday.

Islamist attackers are still fighting – and four large explosions could be heard from the complex – but the thugs have no way to get out, he said.

“We think the operation will come to an end soon,” Lenku said

“We are in control of all the floors, the terrorists are running and hiding in some stores… there is no room for escape.”

At least two of the gunmen were killed in the assault Monday morning and “several injured,” Lenku added.

Somalia’s al Qaeda-linked Shebab insurgents have claimed they are behind the carnage, in which at least 69 people were killed and 175 were injured. Another 65 remain missing.

But Kenyan army chief Julius Karangi said the gunmen had different nationalities – without giving further details.

“They are from different countries. We have sufficient intelligence this is global terrorism,” Karangi said.

Several foreign fighters, including Somalis with dual nationalities, are members of the Shebab force, and news reports have said as many as five could be from the US.

Lenku also denied rumors that some of the insurgents were women.

“There are no women, all the terrorists are men. Some of them had dressed like women,” he said.


There was previous speculation that Britain’s “White Widow” Samantha Lewthwaite was involved in the attack.  Lewthwaite is the widow of a suicide bomber who took part in the London 7/7 attacks of 2005.

Reporters on the scene Monday heard multiple blasts and a barrage of gunfire, with black and gray smoke visible as the battle raged for a third day.

Soldiers on Sunday stormed the upscale Nairobi shopping mall, rescuing most of the remaining hostages.

The FBI was investigating whether Somali-Americans were among the terrorists, Fox News reported, while FBI agents and Israeli commandos were believed to have aided in the rescue mission.

“Most of the hostages have been released, and the Kenya Defense Forces has taken control of most parts of the building,” Kenyan military spokesman Col. Cyrus Oguna earlier told local television station KTN.

At least 10 hostages remained captive as dawn broke Monday in the Kenyan capital, the BBC reported. It wasn’t clear how many gunman were still inside.

Oguna added that “most probably,’’ some of the 10 to 15 terrorists — who specifically targeted non-Muslims — were killed after the soldiers stormed the Westgate Shopping Mall in a bid to end the bloody standoff.

Britain’s The Guardian newspaper reported that two Kenyan soldiers were killed when they came under heavy fire. Four other soldiers were wounded, according to a tweet from the KDF.

The State Department said no US citizens were killed, but the wife of an American working for the US Agency for International Development was slain. Five Americans were wounded.

The nephew of the country’s president, as well as the nephew’s wife, were among the dead.

The Associated Press released amateur video of the attack Monday, showing scared shoppers running and hiding in store aisles as the gunmen started blasting.

There were reports that Israeli commandos and the FBI assisted the Kenyan army in its assault on the mall, which is at least partially owned by Israelis.  “The Israelis have just entered, and they are rescuing the hostages and the injured,” a Kenyan security source told Kenya’s Daily Nation newspaper.

The Israeli Foreign Ministry refused to confirm or deny its forces were involved, the newspaper said.

US Rep. Peter King (R-LI) said Sunday that al-Shabab has recruited up to 50 people from Somali-American communities in the US for its operations.

The army’s rescue operation began shortly before sundown Sunday, with two helicopters circling to the mall and one skimming the roof.

A Kenyan soldier said that the terrorists were using a PKM belt-fed machine gun to defend their stronghold and that government forces were returning fire and conducting floor-to-floor sweeps as they closed in on the killers.

President Uhuru Kenyatta reiterated his government’s determination to continue fighting al-Shabab, vowing, “We shall not relent on the war on terror.”
NY Post (http://nypost.com/2013/09/23/kenya-official-militants-dead-in-new-mall-blasts/)
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Post by: Lando Lincoln on September 23, 2013, 02:23:33 pm
Massacre mall ablaze after Islamic terrorists 'blew themselves up': Fierce gunfire heard inside Kenyan shopping centre where militants were holding dozens of hostages

Daily Mail Online
September 23, 2013

Kenyan special forces were today locked in a fight to the death with Islamic terrorists who have been barricaded inside a Nairobi mall with up to 40 hostages since Saturday.
 
Witnesses described hearing four large explosions at the Westgate Shopping Centre followed by the sight of thick plumes of smoke and the sounds of fierce gunfire after the military tried to break the three day siege by gaining access from the roof.
 
It is feared that some of the gunmen, who are from Al Qaeda affiliated group Al Shabaab, may have blown themselves up, though a Kenyan government minister said that militants had set fire to some mattresses in a supermarket as a decoy.

 Interior Minister Joseph Ole Lenku said that two of the terrorists had been killed and that most hostages were now free. All of the militants were men, he added, although some were dressed as women. 'We think the operation will come to an end soon', he said. 'We are in control of all the floors, the terrorists are running and hiding in some stores... there is no room for escape'.

 The Red Cross has put the death toll at 62 and four Britons have been confirmed dead. At least 175 were injured, including children.


Much more including many photos ----> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2429784/Terror-Kenya-Massacre-mall-ablaze-Islamic-terrorists-blew-Fierce-gunfire-heard-inside-Kenyan-shopping-centre-militants-holding-dozens-hostages.html
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: happyg on September 23, 2013, 03:49:25 pm
Irish-Born Samantha Lewthwaite May Be Leader Of Nairobi Mall Massacre, Called "Target Number One" By Kenyan Police Source

(http://www.opposingviews.com/sites/opposingviews.com/files/imagecache/300x250/featured_image/WhiteWidow.jpg)

Story at link:

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/crime/irish-born-samantha-lewthwaite-may-be-leader-nairobi-mall-massacre-called-target# (http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/crime/irish-born-samantha-lewthwaite-may-be-leader-nairobi-mall-massacre-called-target#)
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: DCPatriot on September 23, 2013, 03:55:56 pm
Wow....taken from the plot lines of the current Cinemax series "Strikeback" it seems.   Female Irish terrorists.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: flowers on September 23, 2013, 04:23:25 pm
Anyone here notice how nothing about this attack has been on Drudge?

   10294
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: DCPatriot on September 23, 2013, 04:36:56 pm
Anyone here notice how nothing about this attack has been on Drudge?

   10294

I'm glad he's seemingly slow in the trigger here.  Events are still unfolding and he risks being singled out if whatever he reports doesn't pan out.

Rather he wait until it's over before he fills us in.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: flowers on September 23, 2013, 05:05:38 pm
I'm glad he's seemingly slow in the trigger here.  Events are still unfolding and he risks being singled out if whatever he reports doesn't pan out.

Rather he wait until it's over before he fills us in.
OK  but he didn't have a thing on it at all. Just strange I think. I notice today he does.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: flowers on September 23, 2013, 05:10:08 pm
Has British 'White Widow' been killed in final assault on Kenyan shopping mall? Officials say body of white woman terrorist found at scene

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Westgate Shopping Centre on fire amid fears that terrorists have carried out suicide bomb attack
Architect Ross Langdon, who had dual Australian and British nationality, is confirmed among the dead
His Harvard-educated girlfriend Elif Yavuz was also killed. She was two weeks away from giving birth
Foreign Office confirmed on Monday that four Britons have been killed in the atrocity
Kenyan government says two militants have died in battle to retake the building
Claims that five of the attackers are American and two are British
Kenyan military official says terrorists are a 'multinational collection from all over the world'
Al Shabaab militants today said they would kill the remaining hostages inside the Westgate Shopping Centre
Kenyan official reveals he suspects the involvement of fugitive 7/7 'white widow' Samantha Lewthwaite
Men, women and children slaughtered if they could not recite Koran or name Prophet Mohammed's mother
Terrorists told French citizen 'they want to kill Kenyans and Americans'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2429784/Has-British-White-Widow-killed-final-assault-Kenyan-shopping-mall-Officials-say-body-white-woman-terrorist-scene.html

:peeonobama:

Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: flowers on September 23, 2013, 05:37:48 pm
Kenya shopping mall attack: Tweets from survivors reveal the terror

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These are the posts which record their harrowing experiences:

 

Kamal Kaur (@kamz26)

“My kids were hurt. We're ok. Unable to call or msg. Thank you for love & prayers. Donate blood. Please. I saw children in need. Please.”

“Image of the boy I was trying to save but got shot instead of my son keeps swimming in front of my eyes. How do I sleep after seeing that?”

“Crying. And praying. I lay in a pool of someone's blood, a dead little boy lying on my side. Trying to call for help, keeping others calm.”

“I saw my little boy, my son help a small girl out from Java's service entrance. I could only send him love from where I was watching.”

“Please tell me if everyone is out of the mall. Please. I can't stop crying.”

“My Ruhila is gone...”

“Bodies of children were everywhere. Children. Innocent little children. Holding on to me asking me where their mummies were.”

“The one guy I saw had magazines of bullets attached everywhere on him. Big gun that showered bullets. Randomly shooting at people. And kids.”

“Just saw a pic of my daughter helped out of Westgate in New York Times. God bless you. I'm forever indebted. I didn't know where she was.”

“Please go give blood. I'm begging you. If you'd seen what I saw you'd not think twice about it.”

“I still have dry blood in my hair. Not mine. It's of that little boy who was shot instead of my son...”

“Images of the day keep flashing in front of my eyes. Dead bodies, injured people, wailing, crying, scared.”

“Wide awake. My daughter has started running a fever. She still has shrapnel in her leg. Please go give blood to those who need it. Please”

“I still haven't told my children that their Ruhila Auntie is no more. I don't know how to. I can't. They're still in shock & wounded.”

“My son almost had his head blown off. Missed by an inch. Hit wall. Bounced & killed the little boy next to him.”

“I had a young lady who had fallen on me & she was calling her Dad to say goodbye & I love you. It broke my heart she had given up...”

“I've finally broken the news to the kids about their beloved Ruhila Auntie. My daughter's sobs will forever weigh on my soul.”

 

Shirley (@ShirleyGhetto)

“Im under the matresses!!!!! This might be my last tweet #Westgate mall. :'( :'(”

“I love you guys.”

“OMG I was with kevin and he's at the parking. I'm safe in here but guys, pray for him guys, I think they took him!!”

“3 thugs are arguing about something. One of them is tryna convince two to surrender.”

“Its getting calm. Pray for us guys. #Westgate .Pray for Kevin.”

“When the first gunshot was fired, we ran into the mall instead of away. #Westgate”

“I don't care anymore. If they shoot let them come shoot.It doesn't even seem like we'll make it out anyway #Westgate”

“The cop who tried to save us, Thank you. I hope they didnt kill him.”

“Had mistaken this guys next to me as thugs. Thank God. #Westgate”

“Kenya police,Check the people leaving! I think some gunmen are escaping among them. Black shirts #Westgate”

“Some guy at the parking has been shot for his phone ringing. Please Do NOT call anyone. #Westgate”

“Is it safe to come out from hiding? Its quiet. Have the cops tackled the culprits? Please keep me updated. #Westgate”

“The lady hostage who was shot. I'm told she's a journalist. That scream was deafening. R.I.P #Westgate”

“Cop who scared away the gunmen to the parking lot. May God be with his soul. #westgate”

“How is it out there? Is the backup here yet? #Westgate”

“I feel like I'm ready for anything now. All the fear is gone #Westgate”

“No, I dont wanna die this young! :'(. #Westgate”

“So this is how it feels like when you feel you might die the next minute. I think I'm ready to walk out now.”

“I can see the guys in green now. Should I or should I not show myself. The guys I was with just left.”

“I trust the guys in green. I think I'm gonna come out of hiding now. This feels like a movie.”

“I hope this won't be my last tweet.”

“I'm OK.”

“I made it out of the mall yesterday. The 2 guys I was in hiding with made it out too. Thank you all for the concern. God bless Kenya.”

“The cop who tried to lead us upstairs was sniped in the hip. No one knew where the bullet came from. Some fell downstairs and played dead”

“I have talked to mum like nothing happened. Told her I'm in bed. I didn't wanna scare her.The shock on her, I didn't want that.”

“I think I'm the only one who didn't contact my parent. I didn't know how she would deal with the shock. She doesn't even know I was in there.”

Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: happyg on September 23, 2013, 05:51:14 pm
That's so heart wrenching. I fear something like that will come to us.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: flowers on September 23, 2013, 06:01:07 pm
That's so heart wrenching. I fear something like that will come to us.
Of course it will.   **nononono*
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: Lando Lincoln on September 23, 2013, 06:03:40 pm
That's so heart wrenching. I fear something like that will come to us.

I do as well.

Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: flowers on September 23, 2013, 06:05:57 pm
If 5 people from the USA can go to Kenya how hard would it be for them to attack here?  I wonder why NSA didn't warn Kenya about this? To busy spying on real Americans? Or told to stand down on info?
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: mountaineer on September 23, 2013, 07:22:48 pm
If 5 people from the USA can go to Kenya how hard would it be for them to attack here?  I wonder why NSA didn't warn Kenya about this? To busy spying on real Americans? Or told to stand down on info?
Good question. What about our vaunted terrorist surveillance capability? Any chance Obama knew about this assault in advance?
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: DCPatriot on September 23, 2013, 07:29:50 pm
Good question. What about our vaunted terrorist surveillance capability? Any chance Obama knew about this assault in advance?

Like Egypt just outlawed the Muslim Brotherhood, so too should radical Islam be outlawed.

Anytime an act of terror is committed by a Muslim, a major mosque in the suffering country should be blown up and bulldozed.  And its leader(s) arrested.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: flowers on September 23, 2013, 07:37:26 pm
Good question. What about our vaunted terrorist surveillance capability? Any chance Obama knew about this assault in advance?
It makes one wonder. 
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: Olivia on September 23, 2013, 07:58:26 pm
That's so heart wrenching. I fear something like that will come to us.

They keep trying.  Remember the Boston Marathon?  It WILL happen on a large scale again and I shudder to think of who we have in charge.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: GourmetDan on September 23, 2013, 08:39:35 pm
If 5 people from the USA can go to Kenya how hard would it be for them to attack here?

Hopefully they won't make it back...


Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: GourmetDan on September 23, 2013, 08:41:32 pm

I'm wondering why the Israelis are involved?


Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: famousdayandyear on September 23, 2013, 08:43:34 pm
Hopefully they won't make it back...


er....they are, quite obviously, living here now.  A large population of Somalis in MN as we speak.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: GourmetDan on September 23, 2013, 08:45:34 pm
er....they are, quite obviously, living here now.  A large population of Somalis in MN as we speak.

I was talking about the 5 that went to participate...


Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: famousdayandyear on September 23, 2013, 09:14:04 pm
I was talking about the 5 that went to participate...


I was talking about there's more where those came from.  Communication breakdown. HEH
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: flowers on September 23, 2013, 09:24:38 pm
I'm wondering why the Israelis are involved?
They own or partly own the mall that this happened at.
Title: Re: Live Thread: Nairobi Terrorist Attack
Post by: Atomic Cow on September 23, 2013, 11:29:40 pm
I'm wondering why the Israelis are involved?

Kenya and Israel have good relations and have for sometime.