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Title: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: mystery-ak on August 18, 2019, 01:18:09 pm
Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
by Carlin Becker
 | August 17, 2019 07:25 PM

Former Vice President Dick Cheney is set to appear alongside his daughter Rep. Liz Cheney at a fundraiser for the Republican National Committee and President Trump's 2020 reelection campaign on Monday.

The Jackson, Wyoming, fundraiser will also feature "special guests" and White House staffers Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner, and Mick Mulvaney. According to the Washington Post, the invitation for the event does not list the trio with their official titles. Rather, it clarifies that "their participation in the event is not a solicitation of funds" as federal law prohibits administration officials from campaigning.

The news comes as the former vice president has been critical of Trump's foreign policy moves, having pressed current Vice President Mike Pence on some of the president's isolationist stances as well as the administration’s hard line toward U.S. allies in NATO.

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/former-vice-president-dick-cheney-to-make-appearance-at-trump-fundraiser (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/former-vice-president-dick-cheney-to-make-appearance-at-trump-fundraiser)
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 18, 2019, 01:59:06 pm
What's left of liberal heads will be exploding over this; and I include W.
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: PeteS in CA on August 18, 2019, 02:29:38 pm
What's left of liberal heads will be exploding over this; and I include W.

It is a very visible break with Bush family doings. Not necessarily surprising, except maybe to folks who imagined GWB was Darth Cheney's puppet.
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: aligncare on August 18, 2019, 02:56:13 pm
I believe Liz Cheney has been defending Trump administration policies and showing support for Trump himself, too.

Seems many NeverTrumpers are reevaluating their opposition to Trump and coming aboard his re-election effort. Of course, there are still many others—dead-enders—who haven’t. Their virtue knows no bounds.
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Night Hides Not on August 18, 2019, 02:58:58 pm
I believe Liz Cheney has been defending Trump administration policies and showing support for Trump himself, too.

Seems many NeverTrumpers are reevaluating their opposition to Trump and coming aboard his re-election effort. Of course, there are still many others—dead-enders—who haven’t. Their virtue knows no bounds.

A dad is helping out his daughter, nothing more. The Trump faction of the Republican party currently rules and calls the shots. Liz is trying to stay viable within the party. Her seat in Wyoming is pretty safe, she must have her eyes set on something higher.
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 18, 2019, 03:52:05 pm
A dad is helping out his daughter, nothing more. The Trump faction of the Republican party currently rules and calls the shots. Liz is trying to stay viable within the party. Her seat in Wyoming is pretty safe, she must have her eyes set on something higher.

Or .... Applying Occam's razor:  Both Cheney's want to see President Trump reelected.  After all, this is a fundraiser for the President. 
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 18, 2019, 04:24:00 pm
Or .... Applying Occam's razor:  Both Cheney's want to see President Trump reelected.  After all, this is a fundraiser for the President.

I'd go with Occam on this one....
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: TomSea on August 18, 2019, 04:50:12 pm
This goes well as an endorsement.  A lot of people like Cheney.
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: jpsb on August 18, 2019, 04:54:00 pm
This goes well as an endorsement.  A lot of people like Cheney.

Not me, but I do like Liz Cheney, she is a fighter.  I don't like anyone that had anything to do with getting us into
that disaster of a war in Iraq.
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: TomSea on August 18, 2019, 05:04:05 pm
Not me, but I do like Liz Cheney, she is a fighter.  I don't like anyone that had anything to do with getting us into
that disaster of a war in Iraq.

(http://www.sott.net/image/s2/45027/full/obama_cheney.jpg)

Cheney gave Obama that look. Well, Iraq might have some disasters to it but the biggest disaster was pulling our troops out in 2011. I think Cheney knows that at least, Iraq has gotten a lot better in the preceding 2-3 years.
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: austingirl on August 18, 2019, 05:09:01 pm
Why do I hear echoes of "Halliburton" in my ears? :shrug:
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Night Hides Not on August 18, 2019, 05:31:27 pm
Why do I hear echoes of "Halliburton" in my ears? :shrug:

Those echoes can be traced back to the removal of Jay Garner as Director of the Office for Reconstruction and Humanitarian Assistance for Iraq, a mere month after being named to the position. Bush and Cheney didn't like it when LTG (retired) Garner announced his preference to return Iraq to the Iraqi people as soon as possible: "it's their country."
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: corbe on August 18, 2019, 05:55:13 pm
   Apparently, Dick has left us #Nevers.
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Sanguine on August 18, 2019, 05:57:12 pm
   Apparently, Dick has left us #Nevers.

Was he ever a "never"?
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: corbe on August 18, 2019, 07:46:08 pm
   Probably not @Sanguine He's been pretty quite in this Age of Trump and I'm OK with that.
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Sanguine on August 18, 2019, 07:49:49 pm
   Probably not @Sanguine He's been pretty quite in this Age of Trump and I'm OK with that.

Yeah, I couldn't remember him saying anything about Trump. 
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: libertybele on August 18, 2019, 07:53:16 pm
I'm hoping that Dick will pull Donny aside and have a talking to him about the 2A!
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Chosen Daughter on August 18, 2019, 08:14:45 pm
What's left of liberal heads will be exploding over this; and I include W.


Again with the heads exploding.  I don't know about other people but Cheney isn't on my mind as someone to get excited about.  And it doesn't fit with Trumps previous comments about the war.

Trump:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R7xN5kigqI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R7xN5kigqI)

Cheney:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=dick+cheney+interview+on+iraq+war&view=detail&mid=CA915EAA6B9B3F95E204CA915EAA6B9B3F95E204&FORM=VIRE (https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=dick+cheney+interview+on+iraq+war&view=detail&mid=CA915EAA6B9B3F95E204CA915EAA6B9B3F95E204&FORM=VIRE)
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: EdJames on August 18, 2019, 08:26:56 pm

Again with the heads exploding.  I don't know about other people but Cheney isn't on my mind as someone to get excited about.  And it doesn't fit with Trumps previous comments about the war.

Yeah, having Cheney appear anywhere certainly isn't anything to get excited about....

 :shrug:
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Chosen Daughter on August 18, 2019, 08:29:09 pm
Yeah, having Cheney appear anywhere certainly isn't anything to get excited about....

 :shrug:


Right.
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: skeeter on August 18, 2019, 08:31:05 pm
I believe Liz Cheney has been defending Trump administration policies and showing support for Trump himself, too.

Seems many NeverTrumpers are reevaluating their opposition to Trump and coming aboard his re-election effort.

A mixed blessing, fer sure.
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Chosen Daughter on August 18, 2019, 08:35:08 pm
Not me, but I do like Liz Cheney, she is a fighter.  I don't like anyone that had anything to do with getting us into
that disaster of a war in Iraq.

The only connection I could make from Trump to Liz Cheney is gay rights.
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Chosen Daughter on August 18, 2019, 08:36:05 pm
Why do I hear echoes of "Halliburton" in my ears? :shrug:


I am hearing that too. 
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Sanguine on August 18, 2019, 08:37:16 pm
The only connection I could make from Trump to Liz Cheney is gay rights.

What connection would that be?
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Night Hides Not on August 18, 2019, 08:38:56 pm
What connection would that be?

Liz' sister is gay?
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Sanguine on August 18, 2019, 08:47:48 pm
Liz' sister is gay?

Yes, but how is that a connection to Trump?
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: TomSea on August 18, 2019, 08:49:00 pm

Again with the heads exploding.  I don't know about other people but Cheney isn't on my mind as someone to get excited about.  And it doesn't fit with Trumps previous comments about the war.

Trump:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R7xN5kigqI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7R7xN5kigqI)

Cheney:
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=dick+cheney+interview+on+iraq+war&view=detail&mid=CA915EAA6B9B3F95E204CA915EAA6B9B3F95E204&FORM=VIRE (https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=dick+cheney+interview+on+iraq+war&view=detail&mid=CA915EAA6B9B3F95E204CA915EAA6B9B3F95E204&FORM=VIRE)

I make the connection that the Trump administration helped bring an end to the Iraq war and reign of terror by ISIS, much of it against Christians. But go back to 2015 if that is all you have.
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Chosen Daughter on August 18, 2019, 08:50:03 pm
(http://www.sott.net/image/s2/45027/full/obama_cheney.jpg)

Cheney gave Obama that look. Well, Iraq might have some disasters to it but the biggest disaster was pulling our troops out in 2011. I think Cheney knows that at least, Iraq has gotten a lot better in the preceding 2-3 years.

Especially during the terror reign of ISIS right?  The genocide of the Christian people. 

And the Kurds:

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Kurds+Iraq+war+since+2011&view=detail&mid=C1985ACC06A8B6D8BB00C1985ACC06A8B6D8BB00&FORM=VIRE (https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Kurds+Iraq+war+since+2011&view=detail&mid=C1985ACC06A8B6D8BB00C1985ACC06A8B6D8BB00&FORM=VIRE)

Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Night Hides Not on August 18, 2019, 08:55:33 pm
Yes, but how is that a connection to Trump?

I was merely commenting on @Chosen Daughter 's comment.
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Sanguine on August 18, 2019, 09:01:09 pm
I was merely commenting on @Chosen Daughter 's comment.

Sorry, I didn't mean you.  I was hoping @Chosen Daughter would weigh in.
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Chosen Daughter on August 18, 2019, 09:18:14 pm
I make the connection that the Trump administration helped bring an end to the Iraq war and reign of terror by ISIS, much of it against Christians. But go back to 2015 if that is all you have.


That was the point.  Trump and Cheney are polar opposites concerning the war.  At least that is what he said in the debate. I think it is a mistake to say ISIS is gone.  Its not. 

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/05/28/how-isis-still-threatens-iraq/
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Night Hides Not on August 18, 2019, 09:22:38 pm
Sorry, I didn't mean you.  I was hoping @Chosen Daughter would weigh in.

No problem. I have a small understanding of what the family dynamic is with a gay family member. The Cheneys have always loved their daughters, and Dick has always supported both daughters.

It's the same way with our family: I have a gay nephew, and my sister loves him just the same as her daughter. OTOH, my niece has a leg up on him, as she'll present my sister with her first grandchild at the end of the year.   :beer:

They're all coming down in a few weeks for my son's wedding, and I am not anticipating any issues arising...nor should there be. A wedding is a celebration, not a place for politics and discussions of societal issues. I'm just thrilled they're making the long journey from the West Coast to Texas.
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 18, 2019, 09:27:41 pm
They're all coming down in a few weeks for my son's wedding, and I am not anticipating any issues arising...nor should there be. A wedding is a celebration, not a place for politics and discussions of societal issues. I'm just thrilled they're making the long journey from the West Coast to Texas.

What a wonderful plan!  Enjoy these moments, they're once in a lifetime, even if you're the Father of the Groom.  If you lived near me, I'd lend you a Kegerator.  Beer or Soda's on you...lol.

(Yes, you can set up a Kegerator up for soda pop.)
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Night Hides Not on August 18, 2019, 09:30:59 pm
What a wonderful plan!  Enjoy these moments, they're once in a lifetime, even if you're the Father of the Groom.  If you lived near me, I'd lend you a Kegerator.  Beer or Soda's on you...lol.

(Yes, you can set up a Kegerator up for soda pop.)

SACRILEGE!!!

But thanks anyway! :rolling:
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Sanguine on August 18, 2019, 09:40:03 pm
No problem. I have a small understanding of what the family dynamic is with a gay family member. The Cheneys have always loved their daughters, and Dick has always supported both daughters.

It's the same way with our family: I have a gay nephew, and my sister loves him just the same as her daughter. OTOH, my niece has a leg up on him, as she'll present my sister with her first grandchild at the end of the year.   :beer:

They're all coming down in a few weeks for my son's wedding, and I am not anticipating any issues arising...nor should there be. A wedding is a celebration, not a place for politics and discussions of societal issues. I'm just thrilled they're making the long journey from the West Coast to Texas.

I have a gay cousin and after living that life for many years he has turned away from it and to God.  It's a beautiful thing.   happy77
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 18, 2019, 09:43:46 pm
I have a gay cousin and after living that life for many years he has turned away from it and to God.  It's a beautiful thing.   happy77

Isn't that illegal in California and several other States?
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Sanguine on August 18, 2019, 09:52:32 pm
Isn't that illegal in California and several other States?

Probably.  He's got to be careful.   :pondering:
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Chosen Daughter on August 18, 2019, 09:55:41 pm
Sorry, I didn't mean you.  I was hoping @Chosen Daughter would weigh in.


Since you asked I will weigh in on it.  I also have a gay brother who I love.  What I don't love is what the gay community is doing to this country.


I was hoping that people here would weigh in on this also:


http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,372475.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,372475.0.html)


While we are defending Trump from Russiagate and planning his reelection the country is quietly being transformed by the left.  Right under Trumps nose.  Do you want to see a grandchild born and have the parents designate it an it on the birth certificate?  Do you like the fact that women can no longer compete in professional sports?  Do you want your sidewalks painted in rainbow gay?


How is he connected?  His approval.  He waved that rainbow flag sending a signal that he approves.  Further he approved just recently.  Making comments that he thinks its great that Buttigiege is campaigning with his husband.  Saying some people may have a problem but he didn't.


https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/17/fox-interview-trump-buttigieg-gay-campaign-husband-chasten/ (https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/17/fox-interview-trump-buttigieg-gay-campaign-husband-chasten/)


And I don't have a problem with people being gay.  Given the current politics of forcing everyone to celebrate gayness I openly say I object to gay couple for president.  Trump may like it but I don't .  I don't like the fact that our city allows naked people to say they are proud by exposing themseves at pride time.  I don't like to see small children exposed to sex in the open.  Children are not even allowed to stay pure and innocent.  Do you like that bisexuals have story times in public libraries?  I don't.  And since Trump isn't publicly condemning this, but openly approving theres a connection.
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Sanguine on August 18, 2019, 09:58:30 pm

Since you asked I will weigh in on it.  I also have a gay brother who I love.  What I don't love is what the gay community is doing to this country.


I was hoping that people here would weigh in on this also:


http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,372475.0.html (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,372475.0.html)


While we are defending Trump from Russiagate and planning his reelection the country is quietly being transformed by the left.  Right under Trumps nose.  Do you want to see a grandchild born and have the parents designate it an it on the birth certificate?  Do you like the fact that women can no longer compete in professional sports?  Do you want your sidewalks painted in rainbow gay?


How is he connected?  His approval.  He waved that rainbow flag sending a signal that he approves.  Further he approved just recently.  Making comments that he thinks its great that Buttigiege is campaigning with his husband.  Saying some people may have a problem but he didn't.


https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/17/fox-interview-trump-buttigieg-gay-campaign-husband-chasten/ (https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/17/fox-interview-trump-buttigieg-gay-campaign-husband-chasten/)


And I don't have a problem with people being gay.  Given the current politics of forcing everyone to celebrate gayness I openly say I object to gay couple for president.  Trump may like it but I don't .  I don't like the fact that our city allows naked people to say they are proud by exposing themseves at pride time.  I don't like to see small children exposed to sex in the open.  Children are not even allowed to stay pure and innocent.  Do you like that bisexuals have story times in public libraries?  I don't.  And since Trump isn't publicly condemning this, but openly approving theres a connection.

Liz Cheney is linked to Trump because she has a gay sister and Liz disapproves of homosexuality and Trump doesn't outright condemn it?

Nevermind.  I don't need to understand after all.
Title: Re: Former Vice President Dick Cheney to make appearance at Trump fundraiser
Post by: Chosen Daughter on August 18, 2019, 10:20:20 pm
Liz Cheney is linked to Trump because she has a gay sister and Liz disapproves of homosexuality and Trump doesn't outright condemn it?

Nevermind.  I don't need to understand after all.


Well you corrected me.  I thought that Liz was the gay sister.  I guess its just Trump that is the gay lobby.