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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: TomSea on November 23, 2017, 12:22:12 pm
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'If it was my daughter, I'd break his face': Republican lawmaker and former Navy SEAL unleashes on Roy Moore
David Choi
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Republican Rep. Scott Taylor of Virginia on Wednesday said he didn't "feel comfortable" with Roy Moore's response to allegations of sexual misconduct against him.
"The 14-year-old girl that was there, I can tell you right now if it was my daughter, I'd break his face, I'd break his fingers, and I'd probably do a lot worse," Taylor said.
Moore, the Republican nominee for a US Senate seat in Alabama, has denied the allegations.
Republican Rep. Scott Taylor of Virginia said he didn't "feel comfortable" with the response from Roy Moore, the Republican nominee for a US Senate seat in Alabama, to a string of sexual-misconduct allegations against him, including that he initiated a sexual encounter with a 14-year-old girl in 1979, when he was 32.
Continued at: http://www.businessinsider.com/scott-taylor-roy-moore-navy-seal-2017-11
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Already made up his mind to believe the accusers who had 38 years to say something, but chose to do so five weeks away from an election.
Also ignored the fact that others have called into question their stories on a factual basis.
On another point, I read something the other day that claimed Moore was like a champion kick boxer or something, and he was an officer in Vietnam, so this Washington DC oriented Navy Seal might have gotten a nasty surprise messing with Roy.
It's a shame, but Virginia is way too heavily influenced now by Washington DC spending, and too many of the denizens now live in Virginia and influence it's politics.
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Much as I respect Taylor's service as a Navy SEAL, he is full of horse excrement.
Why does everyone feel the need to weigh in ? Why is this guy doing it? Or was he compelled to do so by those in his own party who want Moore out?
Best to say nothing, but if pressed, just say "let the voters decide." In all of this, it is their vote that matters, not the opinion of every Tom, Dick, Harry and Harriet.
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Much as I respect Taylor's service as a Navy SEAL, he is full of horse excrement.
Why does everyone feel the need to weigh in ? Why is this guy doing it? Or was he compelled to do so by those in his own party who want Moore out?
Best to say nothing, but if pressed, just say "let the voters decide." In all of this, it is their vote that matters, not the opinion of every Tom, Dick, Harry and Harriet.
Its discouraging how few have integrity enough to have given the appropriate response to the question of Moore's fitness, which is to accept him at his word, based on his public record, and refrain from comment pending more solid proof, or at least some evidence.
Understandable, though, if their aim is some kind of political result. Which of course it is.
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Much as I respect Taylor's service as a Navy SEAL, he is full of horse excrement.
Why does everyone feel the need to weigh in ? Why is this guy doing it? Or was he compelled to do so by those in his own party who want Moore out?
Best to say nothing, but if pressed, just say "let the voters decide." In all of this, it is their vote that matters, not the opinion of every Tom, Dick, Harry and Harriet.
All these stories coming out now about sexual misconduct are a distraction, IMO. There is something else coming in the big picture people are not going to focus on that will affect them more. But what is it? Net neutrality? Something else?
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Much as I respect Taylor's service as a Navy SEAL, he is full of horse excrement.
Why does everyone feel the need to weigh in ? Why is this guy doing it? Or was he compelled to do so by those in his own party who want Moore out?
Did you notice he represents a district in Virginia? Virginia has slowly become part of the Washington Swamp. The Swamp wants Moore gone, so the Swamp Denizens and their allies are trying to make it happen.
Moore seems to terrify the swamp. I wonder why?
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Did you notice he represents a district in Virginia? Virginia has slowly become part of the Washington Swamp. The Swamp wants Moore gone, so the Swamp Denizens and their allies are trying to make it happen.
Moore seems to terrify the swamp. I wonder why?
Because all the 14-year-olds in the swamp are already taken????
Juuuusssst Kiddding.
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Much as I respect Taylor's service as a Navy SEAL, he is full of horse excrement.
Why does everyone feel the need to weigh in ? Why is this guy doing it? Or was he compelled to do so by those in his own party who want Moore out?
Best to say nothing, but if pressed, just say "let the voters decide." In all of this, it is their vote that matters, not the opinion of every Tom, Dick, Harry and Harriet.
This.
Bad intel is the first step to TFUTEAFU.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/boom-witness-drops-bomb-proves-gloria-allred-accuser-nelson-lying-says-media-not-talk/ (http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/boom-witness-drops-bomb-proves-gloria-allred-accuser-nelson-lying-says-media-not-talk/)
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Did you notice he represents a district in Virginia? Virginia has slowly become part of the Washington Swamp. The Swamp wants Moore gone, so the Swamp Denizens and their allies are trying to make it happen.
Moore seems to terrify the swamp. I wonder why?
It is unfortunate what has happened to VA. I have relatives living outside of Alexandria. When they first married about 40 years ago, they lived in the People's Republic of Maryland, but as soon as they were able, they escaped to Virginia. Where they live is far away from hoity-toity Alexandria -- years ago there was nothing around their development except a military base -- and most people were conservative. Now, the area has been overdeveloped and populated with swamp people and liberal kooks. My relatives are retired now and would like to move somewhere like where their current location used to be, but I'm afraid there is no such place anymore.
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Lives in Virginia Beach,
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Taylor was one of eighteen Republican congressmen to urge President Trump not to end Barack Obama's DACA policy.[11]
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Cannabis legalization
On February 27, 2017, Taylor was an original cosponsor for bill H.R. 1227 – Ending Federal Marijuana Prohibition Act of 2017. [12]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Taylor_(politician)
So, he's one of the ones who co-sponsored that marijuana bill, looks like about 15 congress people did, I do remember that. I thought that was a bit excessive to do while all the same, thankful as well for his military service. So, he may or may not be that Conservative. Some see marijuana as a libertarian issue, perhaps that is his leaning.
He's still in his 30s as well and from his bio, worked quite a bit in Latin America.
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Who is he talking about? Because all the women who claimed he did something - their stories are in tatters, fictions of Gloria Allred and WaPo attack dog Stephanie McCrummen.
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Say what you will about Rep. Taylor. That is your right, a right he fought to protect. But there is one thing you should never forget. When he bangs his staffers, the sex is consensual. Usually.
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Republican Rep. Scott Taylor of Virginia
LOL. CNN is now digging up irrelevant House reps for comment. This asshat doesn't even have a wife or kid so who the eff cares what he thinks about his "daughter"?
Is Scott Taylor married? What does he look for in a wife?
https://hitberry.com/is-scott-taylor-married-what-does-he-look-for-in-a-wife/
Talking about his personal life, at the age of 30, he has been missing a partner in his life. When asked about his thought on marriage, he said he is not prepared to get married and the idea of wife and children scares him. It was quite surprising to know that such a brave soldier is scared with the idea of getting married.
Taylor does not want to get into a marital relationship and end up in divorce. After the death of his mother, he has been living with his only family member, Cole, his German shepherd.
I'll bet a fiver this dude is queerer than a 3 dollar bill.
Also this guy will say anything and do anything to get in front of a camera....
6 months in, Rep. Scott Taylor is trying to elevate his status in Congress however possible
https://pilotonline.com/news/government/nation/months-in-rep-scott-taylor-is-trying-to-elevate-his/article_6e3d5b1b-b846-5c61-bd1c-a1644f839ca4.html
Two to three times a week he’s standing in front of a TV camera in the Capitol’s National Statuary Hall for live interviews on Fox News, CNN, MSNBC or another cable channel. Taylor, one of relatively few legislators who spend so much time on air, is no stranger to the process. He’d been an occasional commentator on Fox for years.
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Republican Rep. Scott Taylor of Virginia
LOL. CNN is now digging up irrelevant House reps for comment. This asshat doesn't even have a wife or kid so who the eff cares what he thinks about his "daughter"?
Is Scott Taylor married? What does he look for in a wife?
https://hitberry.com/is-scott-taylor-married-what-does-he-look-for-in-a-wife/
I'll bet a fiver this dude is queerer than a 3 dollar bill.
Also this guy will say anything and do anything to get in front of a camera....
6 months in, Rep. Scott Taylor is trying to elevate his status in Congress however possible
https://pilotonline.com/news/government/nation/months-in-rep-scott-taylor-is-trying-to-elevate-his/article_6e3d5b1b-b846-5c61-bd1c-a1644f839ca4.html
How quickly you judge. Just because a guy is thirty, very concerned with his image and living with a German Shepherd, you think he is gay.
Now, if he were living with a poodle ...
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Much as I respect Taylor's service as a Navy SEAL, he is full of horse excrement.
Why does everyone feel the need to weigh in ? Why is this guy doing it? Or was he compelled to do so by those in his own party who want Moore out?
Best to say nothing, but if pressed, just say "let the voters decide." In all of this, it is their vote that matters, not the opinion of every Tom, Dick, Harry and Harriet.
Because he saw a camera.
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How quickly you judge. Just because a guy is thirty, very concerned with his image and living with a German Shepherd, you think he is gay.
Now, if he were living with a poodle ...
Shepherds are gay....
(https://rlv.zcache.com/german_shepherd_gay_pride_macbook_pro_sleeve-rdc3c87ebbf084f0fa35bdbf69f7de472_2izo1_8byvr_324.jpg)
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Already made up his mind to believe the accusers who had 38 years to say something, but chose to do so five weeks away from an election.
Also ignored the fact that others have called into question their stories on a factual basis.
On another point, I read something the other day that claimed Moore was like a champion kick boxer or something, and he was an officer in Vietnam, so this Washington DC oriented Navy Seal might have gotten a nasty surprise messing with Roy.
It's a shame, but Virginia is way too heavily influenced now by Washington DC spending, and too many of the denizens now live in Virginia and influence it's politics.
Since this is Thanksgiving, I want to give thanks that nobody on this thread is buying this bovine excrement. :amen:
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When I saw this on our local news channel I shot off an email to Taylor.
As a Really Old former ranger in the nam era, a Virginia resident and having the rank of Godan in Shotokan karate, I invited this bag of wind to start with me first!
I am still waiting for a reply.
(No, I didn't expect one)
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How quickly you judge. Just because a guy is thirty, very concerned with his image and living with a German Shepherd, you think he is gay.
Now, if he were living with a poodle ...
Yeah, well, when he is thirty-two and looks at the messed up single women in his age group, if he isn't marrying for money, beard, or status, he'll look at younger women, too. Maybe by his fifties he can find a fashion model half his age. :whistle:
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Yeah, well, when he is thirty-two and looks at the messed up single women in his age group, if he isn't marrying for money, beard, or status, he'll look at younger women, too. Maybe by his fifties he can find a fashion model half his age. :whistle:
:silly:
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What was it Senator Webb said about Bush when Bush wished Webb's son well? "I wanted to punch Bush (that f*ck) in the face?" Dems are so nice. They can all go to Hell.
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In other words, his daughter would have no fault in the process. Typical of his generation of not accepting responsibility for anything.
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In other words, his daughter would have no fault in the process. Typical of his generation of not accepting responsibility for anything.
OH, he's just showing off and trying to get his name in the paper.
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Nice to see the kind of elected character our Establishment gives face time to.
Screw the Law, I AM the LAW.
"I'd Murdalize Da Bum!"
And the GOPE wonders why, (or doesn't care because it's just a Polling Numbers game) their base won't take them seriously.
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Say what you will about Rep. Taylor. That is your right, a right he fought to protect. But there is one thing you should never forget. When he bangs his staffers, the sex is consensual. Usually.
Is that male or female staffers? I mean, Frank isn't always right but he's pegged this guy as iffy.
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Yeah, well, when he is thirty-two and looks at the messed up single women in his age group, if he isn't marrying for money, beard, or status, he'll look at younger women, too. Maybe by his fifties he can find a fashion model half his age. :whistle:
What are you talking about. There are plenty of gay dudes out there in this guys are bracket.
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I sure don't see this guy as being GOPe, wanting to decriminalize marijuana nationally, I don't see him as being a typical conservative either, wanting DACA probably because he spent time in Latin America.
It seems like calling someone the establishment is just a catch-phrase. He seems to have some youthful idealism, still being in his 30s. Maybe he's the Republican version of Tulsi Gabbard.
Of course, except for Rand Paul, seemingly all of the congress representatives and senators pulled their endorsement of Moore. Don't wait to hear complaints about these folks.
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Much as I respect Taylor's service as a Navy SEAL, he is full of horse excrement.
Why does everyone feel the need to weigh in ? Why is this guy doing it? Or was he compelled to do so by those in his own party who want Moore out?
Best to say nothing, but if pressed, just say "let the voters decide." In all of this, it is their vote that matters, not the opinion of every Tom, Dick, Harry and Harriet.
That's the mystery here. Why did he say anything? Why say something so stupid and fourth-gradish?
I looked him up. He's had a picture perfect career and been an outstanding military guy. He supported Trump's attempts to keep illegals out.
AND he sponsored or got on board with a bill to legalize marijuana.
Plus, he's a good looking guy.
So, ya know, he could have a political future but why jump into this democrat-created cesspool of a Roy Moore mess?
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Shepherds are gay....
LOL, not they are not. But living with mommy when you are 30 sure is.
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LOL, not they are not. But living with mommy when you are 30 sure is.
My brother lived with my parents (and then with my widowed mother) till he married at about age 50 or so. If you told him he was gay, you would be singing soprano right now. :tongue2:
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My brother lived with my parents (and then with my widowed mother) till he married at about age 50 or so. If you told him he was gay, you would be singing soprano right now. :tongue2:
There is always an exception or two or three.
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That's the mystery here. Why did he say anything? Why say something so stupid and fourth-gradish?
I looked him up. He's had a picture perfect career and been an outstanding military guy. He supported Trump's attempts to keep illegals out.
AND he sponsored or got on board with a bill to legalize marijuana.
Plus, he's a good looking guy.
So, ya know, he could have a political future but why jump into this democrat-created cesspool of a Roy Moore mess?
Depends on how hard they pushed him to make a comment.
If he's not a seasoned political spinner, his comment may have just come out.
Besides which, I thought in the Trump era, saying childish, mean things was now a badge of honor. So what's the big deal? :shrug:
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In other words, his daughter would have no fault in the process. Typical of his generation of not accepting responsibility for anything.
Excuse me, but I think he was talking about a hypothetical 14-year-old. A girl that age doesn't have "fault" in the process, that's why it's called "age of consent."
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Excuse me, but I think he was talking about a hypothetical 14-year-old. A girl that age doesn't have "fault" in the process, that's why it's called "age of consent."
That’s the bullshite of today’s parenting society. Parents should be teach their kid respect and responsibility starting at the earliest ages possible. Who would accept a 14 year old (which in most cases is high school age) not accepting responsibility for their actions.
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That’s the bullshite of today’s parenting society. Parents should be teach their kid respect and responsibility starting at the earliest ages possible. Who would accept a 14 year old (which in most cases is high school age) not accepting responsibility for their actions.
I'd certainly teach my kid that, yeah, but it's a bit beside the point. What I think is not beside the point is this Congressman is a a pugnacious jerk, who's beating his chest while yodeling at the wind to score political points.
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Depends on how hard they pushed him to make a comment.
If he's not a seasoned political spinner, his comment may have just come out.
Besides which, I thought in the Trump era, saying childish, mean things was now a badge of honor. So what's the big deal? :shrug:
Hah! You may have me there.
But he's been in politics a while so I'm still wondering why he decided to hop into this mess unless he thought it would get him points with some people.
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Hah! You may have me there.
But he's been in politics a while so I'm still wondering why he decided to hop into this mess unless he thought it would get him points with some people.
Maybe he was trying to woo the libtards who would otherwise throw the R following his name, out on his keister.
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Maybe he was trying to woo the libtards who would otherwise throw the R following his name, out on his keister.
Considering his constituency, you may just be right about that.
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What are you talking about. There are plenty of gay dudes out there in this guys are bracket.
If he's gay, he isn't making daughters unless he isn't having one of those loving just like normal people thangs @Jazzhead is always telling us about.
Well, not unless he hits from both sides of the Plate.
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So, ya know, he could have a political future but why jump into this democrat-created cesspool of a Roy Moore mess?
Because sometimes it is important to stand up for what's right, and to stand against lawlessness. The Democrats' defense of Bill Clinton 20 years ago was shameful, and evangelicals' defense of Roy Moore reveals their moral authority to be just as phony. And putting aside the multiple, on the record, corroborated charges of Moore's moral turpitude, Moore's trashing of his oath of office should make him unacceptable for anyone who considers himself a Constitutional conservative.
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Because sometimes it is important to stand up for what's right, and to stand against lawlessness. The Democrats' defense of Bill Clinton 20 years ago was shameful, and evangelicals' defense of Roy Moore reveals their moral authority to be just as phony. And putting aside the multiple, on the record, corroborated charges of Moore's moral turpitude, Moore's trashing of his oath of office should make him unacceptable for anyone who considers himself a Constitutional conservative.
I don't consider the WaPo or Gloria Allred as meeting the bar of 'on the record,' especially when their 'witness' stories have holes big enough to drive aircraft carriers through.
There is also no cooberation, you are deliberately misusing the word to imply that somehow all these women's stories jive and dovetail together with multiple eyewitnesses backing up their stories. No such thing exists.
Nobody yet has come forward that gives credible witness to Moore's 'moral terptitude.'
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I don't consider the WaPo or Gloria Allred as meeting the bar of 'on the record,' especially when their 'witness' stories have holes big enough to drive aircraft carriers through.
There is also no cooberation, you are deliberately misusing the word to imply that somehow all these women's stories jive and dovetail together with multiple eyewitnesses backing up their stories. No such thing exists.
Nobody yet has come forward that gives credible witness to Moore's 'moral terptitude.'
Read Charles Hurt's piece in the Washington Times. Yes, he supports Moore for Machavelian reasons, but he acknowledges that the WaPo report was well researched and fair.
The weight of evidence damns Roy Moore. You choose not to believe the evidence because you are determined to see this lawless cad in the Senate. So did the many Democrats who defended the indefensible to get Bill Clinton elected.
I won't. I was hoping that Moore would drop out of the race and make the way clear for a real Constitutional conservative to contend for the seat. Now that it's clear that he won't, it is time to stand up to lawlessness and moral hypocrisy. Whatever damage Doug Jones may do in the Senate, it pales next to the damage Roy Moore will do to those Christian conservatives who've latched on to this pervert. Why should anyone listen to their fetid nonsense anymore? They're rejected what's good and decent for pieces of silver.
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Frank isn't always right but he's pegged this guy....
I stopped reading there and vomited.
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My brother lived with my parents (and then with my widowed mother) till he married at about age 50 or so. If you told him he was gay, you would be singing soprano right now. :tongue2:
So he was Gay with anger management issues! Bless his heart.
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Read Charles Hurt's piece in the Washington Times. Yes, he supports Moore for Machavelian reasons, but he acknowledges that the WaPo report was well researched and fair.
The weight of evidence damns Roy Moore. You choose not to believe the evidence because you are determined to see this lawless cad in the Senate. So did the many Democrats who defended the indefensible to get Bill Clinton elected.
I won't. I was hoping that Moore would drop out of the race and make the way clear for a real Constitutional conservative to contend for the seat. Now that it's clear that he won't, it is time to stand up to lawlessness and moral hypocrisy. Whatever damage Doug Jones may do in the Senate, it pales next to the damage Roy Moore will do to those Christian conservatives who've latched on to this pervert. Why should anyone listen to their fetid nonsense anymore? They're rejected what's good and decent for pieces of silver.
There is no evidence. You've chosen to be fooled by this smoke screen of a hit job because it fits with your presumptious and bigoted opinion against Moore, because he chooses not to adhere to your definition of marriage and morality. All the sophistry, hand waving, and stained glass self-righteousness isn't going to change that. It's nothing but castles in the clouds.
His accusers stories have been blown to bits, with key details refuted with cooboration by both witnesses and court documents. There's far more cooboration against these witness' stories than for.
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Navy Ping.
(http://xtremeconcepts.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Scott-Taylor.jpg)
:flag:
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There is no evidence. You've chosen to be fooled by this smoke screen of a hit job because it fits with your presumptious and bigoted opinion against Moore, because he chooses not to adhere to your definition of marriage and morality. All the sophistry, hand waving, and stained glass self-righteousness isn't going to change that. It's nothing but castles in the clouds.
His accusers stories have been blown to bits, with key details refuted with cooboration by both witnesses and court documents. There's far more cooboration against these witness' stories than for.
Look, defend him if you want to. Plenty of conservatives are, just as plenty of liberals closed their eyes and defended Bill Clinton. I realize that in politics, the result is all that matters. But don't embarrass yourself by claiming the accusations leveled at Roy Moore aren't credible. Be honest - say loudly and proudly you don't care about the veracity of the charges because Roy's your good old boy.
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Look, defend him if you want to. Plenty of conservatives are, just as plenty of liberals closed their eyes and defended Bill Clinton. I realize that in politics, the result is all that matters. But don't embarrass yourself by claiming the accusations leveled at Roy Moore aren't credible. Be honest - say loudly and proudly you don't care about the veracity of the charges because Roy's your good old boy.
It's obvious that all you have is stained glass rhetoric, because the evidence is against you. That's why you focus on the accusations and their 'veracity' and go no deeper, because they fall apart on deeper examination. It's just lawyering to paper over the lack of evidence with moralistic patronizing.
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Look, defend him if you want to. Plenty of conservatives are, just as plenty of liberals closed their eyes and defended Bill Clinton. I realize that in politics, the result is all that matters. But don't embarrass yourself by claiming the accusations leveled at Roy Moore aren't credible. Be honest - say loudly and proudly you don't care about the veracity of the charges because Roy's your good old boy.
There was not only credible corroborated evidence against Clinton, but an enduring record for such behaviour continuing long after he was married, and supported by DNA evidence.
Bill wasn't up for a senate seat a few weeks from the election, either.
Bill had the full support of the media, who contended the whole thing was "just about sex", with a wink.
The liberals who defended Bill Clinton didn't have their eyes closed, they knew exactly who and what they were defending, and likely knew damned well he wasn't innocent. He had a long track record of bimbo eruptions. If he hadn't bragged about it, Hillary had likely griped. And the cigars smelled a little funny.
By contrast, we have the unsupported (and refuted) allegations of one who would have been 'underage', and the statements of several young (but legal) ladies who said there was no sex. We have the contested report that Moore supposedly imposed himself on one young lady (of legal age), in a situation which others said did not exist (the dumpsters were not behind the building). We have a highly questionable signature in a yearbook which appears to have been altered, if it was his, and which will not be surrendered for analysis.
We have one woman who claims he grabbed her butt. In the office.
We have the suddenly very moral attack dog media going after a Republican like hounds after a bitch in heat, the selfsame moral monitors who told us Clinton's impeachment was "just about sex" (with accompanying winks and smirks).
We have (refuted) allegations of Moore being banned from the local Mall.
The entire media mode of reference is to try to make Moore out to be a child molester, and that poo just won't stick to the glass, no matter how many monkeys sling it.
We even have posters insisting on repeating the "sixteen" year old thing, when the three ladies who came forth said they were 17, in one case the folks said "No" and nothing more happened, in the other two, with parents approval, they went out, but there were no sexual relations.
In short, one shesaid/hesaid, a couple of refuted allegations, and nothing legally wrong done or claimed otherwise. Oh, and asking some gal for a date more than once at the mall, something a guy might well do before he figures out she just isn't interested in him because of the ambiguous way she had shaped her response.
But we do have an election where the Democrats are desperate to grab as many Congressional seats as they can, by any means, fair or foul, coming on the heels of a Presidential election full of dirty tricks and media manipulation of the electorate.
So, if you want to believe that the liberal press is suddenly become the arbiter of all that is moral and right with America, fine. Or you can admit you have a bit of a woody for Moore after he stood up for the Alabama Constitution over the ruling of a District Judge and ordered those in his chain of command to do the same.
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Senator Cotton has not gotten involved at all; no comments, no endorsement as far as I know, no endorsement to back out of. We all enjoy talking and kibitzing about politics but if we were in a position to actually act on the situation, it might be different.