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Title: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: 240B on July 14, 2017, 11:54:50 am

The Washington Times
By Sally Persons
Friday, July 14, 2017


President Trump pushed Senate Republicans Friday to deliver on their health care promise, tweeting out his reaction on the continuing debate on Capitol Hill.


“Republican Senators are working hard to get their failed ObamaCare replacement approved. I will be at my desk, pen in hand!” he tweeted.


Mr. Trump pinned the blame for the troubled bill on Republicans in the Senate and name-checked Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell as the man to make it happen, emphasizing the campaign promise Republicans made year after year of “repeal and replace.”
“So impt Rep Senators, under leadership of @SenateMajLdr McConnell get healthcare plan approved. After 7yrs of O’Care disaster, must happen!” the president tweeted.


“After all of these years of suffering thru ObamaCare, Republican Senators must come through as they have promised!” he said.
Mr. Trump then seemed to pull back on criticism, calling the GOP “wonderful.”


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Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: txradioguy on July 14, 2017, 12:47:14 pm
Unless it fully and completely repeals the 2010 ACA...that pen in his hand needs to be a veto pen.
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: Silver Pines on July 14, 2017, 02:43:12 pm
Why doesn't he get out from behind his desk and go do some rallies to push a free market plan?
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: Applewood on July 14, 2017, 02:53:20 pm
Unless it fully and completely repeals the 2010 ACA...that pen in his hand needs to be a veto pen.

I doubt Trump will actually read the bill or know what's in it.  As I recall, he pushed the House bill as a repeal.  If he had read the bill, he would have know it wasn't.  Or maybe he just doesn't care. 
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: Bigun on July 14, 2017, 02:56:34 pm
Unless it fully and completely repeals the 2010 ACA...that pen in his hand needs to be a veto pen.

Uh NO!  The bill, if it includes the Cruz amendment, IS a full repeal of Obamacare over time!
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: Applewood on July 14, 2017, 02:56:57 pm
Why doesn't he get out from behind his desk and go do some rallies to push a free market plan?

That's one of the things that bugs me about Trump.  If he really wants to push something through, he should be out there urging the people to contact their congress persons.  He should be meeting with and schmoozing members of both houses.  Instead, he wastes his time hobnobbing around Europe or sending out endless tweets about stupid stuff. 
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: INVAR on July 14, 2017, 03:02:30 pm
I doubt Trump will actually read the bill or know what's in it.  As I recall, he pushed the House bill as a repeal.  If he had read the bill, he would have know it wasn't.  Or maybe he just doesn't care.

He doesn't care.  He wants to be seen as 'winning' by his adoring mobs.

Recall that this is the guy who for his entire life up until last year was FOR Universal Single Payer healthcare.  This is the guy who in January INSISTED that "his plan" for health care was that “We’re going to have insurance for everybody... they’ll be beautifully covered".
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: corbe on July 14, 2017, 03:21:04 pm
   "This is America, we can't have people dying in the Street"  DJT 2017 
    He was talking about TrumpCare not Chitcago.
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: txradioguy on July 14, 2017, 03:21:15 pm
Uh NO!  The bill, if it includes the Cruz amendment, IS a full repeal of Obamacare over time!

There's nothing that says McConnell won't decide to hold an up or down vote on each amendment and toss the Cruz Amendment out that way.

I don't trust the Senate leadership to do right by Cruz or Lee in any way shape or form.
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: Silver Pines on July 14, 2017, 03:29:15 pm
That's one of the things that bugs me about Trump.  If he really wants to push something through, he should be out there urging the people to contact their congress persons.  He should be meeting with and schmoozing members of both houses.  Instead, he wastes his time hobnobbing around Europe or sending out endless tweets about stupid stuff.

@Applewood

That's what the people got when they elected him.  He's a celebrity.  He doesn't know much about the Constitution, and he'll sign whatever they put on his desk, free market or single payer, as long as he can get it done and move on.
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: INVAR on July 14, 2017, 03:31:04 pm
There's nothing that says McConnell won't decide to hold an up or down vote on each amendment and toss the Cruz Amendment out that way.

Ahhhhh.... you've studied how the Judas-In-The-Senate works.

That is EXACTLY what McConnell will do.

He wants Single Payer as intently as the Democrats do, despite what he claims to the contrary.
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: Bigun on July 14, 2017, 03:38:44 pm
There's nothing that says McConnell won't decide to hold an up or down vote on each amendment and toss the Cruz Amendment out that way.

I don't trust the Senate leadership to do right by Cruz or Lee in any way shape or form.

If the Cruz amendment is tossed the bill becomes worthless and I move to your side immediately!
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: Emjay on July 14, 2017, 06:32:57 pm
Unless it fully and completely repeals the 2010 ACA...that pen in his hand needs to be a veto pen.

So ... you're against the plan even with the good additions of the Cruz amendment?

You're still in the all or nothing crowd?
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: Emjay on July 14, 2017, 06:35:48 pm
Uh NO!  The bill, if it includes the Cruz amendment, IS a full repeal of Obamacare over time!

Uh, no is right.  I can't believe people are still blaming Trump.  I don't even like him and I don't blame him for this.  He's advocated repeal and THEN replace.

It's not his job to stump for this, although he has done so many times.

It IS his job to sign the bill and he should ... unless McConnell manages to sabotage it at the last minute.
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: Emjay on July 14, 2017, 06:37:25 pm
There's nothing that says McConnell won't decide to hold an up or down vote on each amendment and toss the Cruz Amendment out that way.

I don't trust the Senate leadership to do right by Cruz or Lee in any way shape or form.

Oh.  Totally agree with you there.  I have money on this and it will go to a good cause but I don't want to win my bet.

This would be a slam dunk if we had a better leader, but, guess what, we have that total wimp, McConnell.  And traitor.
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: GrouchoTex on July 14, 2017, 06:59:18 pm
If the Cruz amendment is tossed the bill becomes worthless and I move to your side immediately!

Exactly.
The Cruz Amendment allows people to opt out of the parts of the plans that Obamacare mandates.
It would, in effect, kill Obamacare.
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: Silver Pines on July 14, 2017, 07:09:10 pm
Exactly.
The Cruz Amendment allows people to opt out of the parts of the plans that Obamacare mandates.
It would, in effect, kill Obamacare.

According to Steve Deace, McConnell's new version of the amendment is no longer the Cruz-Lee amendment, which is why Lee isn't supporting it.  He goes into detail here.

https://www.facebook.com/stevedeace/posts/791496091030432 (https://www.facebook.com/stevedeace/posts/791496091030432)
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: Hoodat on July 14, 2017, 07:13:35 pm
Why doesn't he get out from behind his desk and go do some rallies to push a free market plan?

Frankly, I prefer he stay behind his desk considering that he supports the Obamacare mandates.
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: Bigun on July 14, 2017, 07:15:20 pm
According to Steve Deace, McConnell's new version of the amendment is no longer the Cruz-Lee amendment, which is why Lee isn't supporting it.  He goes into detail here.

https://www.facebook.com/stevedeace/posts/791496091030432 (https://www.facebook.com/stevedeace/posts/791496091030432)

If that is true then McConnell has effectively gutted the Cruz amendment and killed the bill IMHO!
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: Silver Pines on July 14, 2017, 07:17:30 pm
If that is true then McConnell has effectively gutted the Cruz amendment and killed the bill IMHO!

I don't put anything past that SOB.
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: corbe on July 14, 2017, 07:21:21 pm
   The kiss of death for the Cruz/Lee Amendment was last Friday when McConnell/Cornyn refused to send it to the CBO to be scored, insisting instead that the WH score it, yea right..... *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: INVAR on July 14, 2017, 07:23:25 pm
   The kiss of death for the Cruz/Lee Amendment was last Friday when McConnell/Cornyn refused to send it to the CBO to be scored, insisting instead that the WH score it, yea right..... *****rollingeyes*****

Ahhhhh yes!  I had forgotten that fact.

Thanks for reminding us.

A certainty that Cruz' Amendment is going to end up out of the bill at some point, and McConnell will crow alongside the Donald that they 'fixed' Obamacare.
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: corbe on July 14, 2017, 07:28:13 pm
   Hopefully, this will inspire Sen. Cruz to steal his balls back and be the a$$hole we elected him to be.
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: txradioguy on July 14, 2017, 07:30:48 pm
So ... you're against the plan even with the good additions of the Cruz amendment?

You're still in the all or nothing crowd?

Total repeal of the ACA is the only course that is the right choice...the Conservative course and decision for America.  Anything else is s slow slide towards Socialism.

And as I said there is nothing in Mitch McConnell's political history that says he won't try to do what he can to get anything the Liberals don't want tossed out of a bill brought before him.

Letting the Cruz Amendment into the bill at this point is a fig leaf.
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: Bigun on July 14, 2017, 07:30:52 pm
   The kiss of death for the Cruz/Lee Amendment was last Friday when McConnell/Cornyn refused to send it to the CBO to be scored, insisting instead that the WH score it, yea right..... *****rollingeyes*****

John Cornyn!  :3:
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: txradioguy on July 14, 2017, 07:31:40 pm
According to Steve Deace, McConnell's new version of the amendment is no longer the Cruz-Lee amendment, which is why Lee isn't supporting it.  He goes into detail here.

https://www.facebook.com/stevedeace/posts/791496091030432 (https://www.facebook.com/stevedeace/posts/791496091030432)

Hate to tell everyone I told ya so....but.... :whistle:
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: rodamala on July 14, 2017, 07:37:39 pm
All this is 100% horseshit.  Even if the Cruz amendment was left alone, after passing the Senate, you effing know damned well right that the bleep will strip that language out as a part of the reconciliation process with the House.

CRAP SANDWICH.
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: Emjay on July 14, 2017, 07:59:53 pm
Hate to tell everyone I told ya so....but.... :whistle:

I read the Deace piece.  He kinda hung Ted out to dry, while praising him with one hand.

I think Cruz still has hopes that the bill will help us until we can do something better.  I don't know what's wrong with the Senate we elected.
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: Hondo69 on July 14, 2017, 08:03:26 pm
I've got a pen in one hand and a bull whip in the other.
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: Bigun on July 14, 2017, 08:04:34 pm
I read the Deace piece.  He kinda hung Ted out to dry, while praising him with one hand.

I think Cruz still has hopes that the bill will help us until we can do something better.  I don't know what's wrong with the Senate we elected.

What's wrong is that the STATES no longer have any say in who populates the Senate and the people who do largely don't give a damn what the people who elect them want or think!  They serve only themselves and their K Street masters!
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: roamer_1 on July 14, 2017, 08:07:07 pm

I don't trust the Senate leadership to do right by Cruz or Lee in any way shape or form.

Or the administration, for that matter.
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: roamer_1 on July 14, 2017, 08:12:23 pm
All this is 100% horseshit.  Even if the Cruz amendment was left alone, after passing the Senate, you effing know damned well right that the bleep will strip that language out as a part of the reconciliation process with the House.

CRAP SANDWICH.

YEP. Sometimes you have to look under the lettuce and pickles.
Title: Re: Trump pushes Senate on health care bill: ‘I will be at my desk, pen in hand!’
Post by: Hoodat on July 14, 2017, 08:28:17 pm
Total repeal of the ACA is the only course that is the right choice...the Conservative course and decision for America.  Anything else is s slow slide towards Socialism.

At this point, doing nothing at all would be better than any bill McConnell will allow to pass.  I would rather see it go bankrupt and have people pay out of pocket for all medical care than to have America itself go bankrupt with this current transfer of wealth.

            ** Newsflash **

We have run out of other people's money.


People who pay taxes (the minority) are now a slave class to those who do not (the majority).

A house divided against itself cannot stand. I believe this government cannot endure, permanently, half slave and half free.

-A. Lincoln-