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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Free Vulcan on April 22, 2018, 01:57:02 am

Title: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: Free Vulcan on April 22, 2018, 01:57:02 am
Former GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney failed to secure the Utah Republican Party's nomination for Senate on Saturday, triggering a June primary.

In the second round of voting, state Rep. Mike Kennedy (R) won 50.88 percent of the vote, with Romney following with 49.12 percent, according to reports.

Because neither candidate secured 60 percent, the two will head to a June statewide Republican primary.

Read more at: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/384301-romney-finishes-second-in-utah-gop-senate-primary?__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true (http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/384301-romney-finishes-second-in-utah-gop-senate-primary?__twitter_impression=true&__twitter_impression=true)
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: Applewood on April 22, 2018, 02:00:37 am
I wish Romney would just go away.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: Frank Cannon on April 22, 2018, 02:48:05 am
With this bizarre insiders Primary system the UT GOP has, being forced into a public primary is the kiss of death for the favorite. Milt is going to lose his ass.......and that will be delightful.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: libertybele on April 22, 2018, 03:03:53 am
Don't know much about the other guy, but I like Mitt.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: corbe on April 22, 2018, 03:49:40 am
    How come Franks buddy isn't running?

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Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: To-Whose-Benefit? on April 22, 2018, 06:34:14 am
With this bizarre insiders Primary system the UT GOP has, being forced into a public primary is the kiss of death for the favorite. Milt is going to lose his ass.......and that will be delightful.

PLEASE.

 :beer:

Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on April 22, 2018, 01:23:52 pm
a loser once again.
Put the nail in the coffin, Utah.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mitt-romney-utah-senate-rape-gop-convention-mike-kennedy/ (https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mitt-romney-utah-senate-rape-gop-convention-mike-kennedy/)
Mitt Romney said he is looking forward to a primary campaign after failing to win the nomination for the U.S. Senate seat in Utah at the state GOP convention. Romney won 49 percent of the delegate vote, but he was edged by Mike Kennedy, a Utah state representative who is also a medical doctor, attorney, and a leader of the new Utah School Safety Commission, which took form after the Florida school shooting, CBS Salt Lake City affiliate KUTV reports.

Romney said Saturday he expects to do well in the primary and the general election after coming in a close second to state lawmaker Mike Kennedy at the convention in suburban Salt Lake City.

The former presidential nominee appeared upbeat after it was announced that he was edged out by state lawmaker Mike Kennedy, who got 51 percent of the vote to Romney's 49 percent.

Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: Bigun on April 22, 2018, 02:32:50 pm
Great news!  Made my day!
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: Machiavelli on April 22, 2018, 03:36:22 pm
I'm not anti-Romney, but I do think the seat needs some fresh blood.

Also, I'm wondering if some of those who didn't vote for him saw him as a carpetbagger.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: Applewood on April 22, 2018, 03:45:56 pm
I'm not anti-Romney, but I do think the seat needs some fresh blood.

Also, I'm wondering if some of those who didn't vote for him saw him as a carpetbagger.

All of Congress could use some fresh blood.  That goes for all of the federal government from the president on down.

And if the voters saw Romney as a carpetbagger, it's probably because he is.

Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: WingNot on April 22, 2018, 09:43:06 pm
Just away Mittens.  Your time is up.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: Free Vulcan on April 22, 2018, 09:49:50 pm
Just away Mittens.  Your time is up.

Don't look like Utah is too smitten with Mittens.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: roamer_1 on April 22, 2018, 09:50:22 pm
This actually makes me happy... I thought he'd have it in a walk. It seems the Mormons can still see a liberal when it matters.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: dfwgator on April 22, 2018, 10:05:01 pm
Even Utahns  don't like carpetbaggers.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: Frank Cannon on April 22, 2018, 10:07:06 pm
Milt is a loser. He is going to fail again trying to win another elected position. Delightful.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: WingNot on April 22, 2018, 10:14:14 pm
Romney is the Hillary Clinton of the GOP.  Three time loser.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: montanajoe on April 22, 2018, 11:15:22 pm
This actually makes me happy... I thought he'd have it in a walk. It seems the Mormons can still see a liberal when it matters.

This was the GOP convention, party types that pay attention to politics 24/7 voting. When the primary comes around in June and the Mormons are actually voting I'd be surprised if he doesn't get at least 70% of the vote. He is very popular there... :shrug:
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: Frank Cannon on April 22, 2018, 11:24:05 pm
This was the GOP convention, party types that pay attention to politics 24/7 voting. When the primary comes around in June and the Mormons are actually voting I'd be surprised if he doesn't get at least 70% of the vote. He is very popular there... :shrug:

Mittens was the favorite in that convention and still came up short. Kennedy is a popular figure in UT. He also has roots in the state. He is going to clean Milts clock.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: Fishrrman on April 23, 2018, 12:21:05 am
"Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary"

Second place?
Well deserved, Mitt.
Right where you belong!
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: roamer_1 on April 23, 2018, 02:08:56 am
This was the GOP convention, party types that pay attention to politics 24/7 voting. When the primary comes around in June and the Mormons are actually voting I'd be surprised if he doesn't get at least 70% of the vote. He is very popular there... :shrug:

Yeah, right... I see what you mean... But Mormons tend to be pretty Conservative - I am hoping, since it is Mormon v Mormon, that they will tend to vote their values.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: montanajoe on April 23, 2018, 04:23:51 am
Yeah, right... I see what you mean... But Mormons tend to be pretty Conservative - I am hoping, since it is Mormon v Mormon, that they will tend to vote their values.

I've worked down there off and on since 82, done rather well, and have not/will not say anything against the Mormon's who in my view are one of the most socially conservative folks in the country and who walk the walk and talk the talk. Although I don't share their faith I understand that for the vast majority of the faith, their voting patterns reside in the idea that they vote for those who reflect the views of their religion not the political party they be a member of.. something I guess that has to do with their unshakable knowledge that core truths do not change no matter what the politician of the day tweets... :shrug:

Utah for years has had a dysfunctional convention system that in large part has been taken over by the hard right. Bless them, but they in no way reflect views of the Utah electorate.

Their high point was knocking out Bennett. IMO it is important to understand the local politics of this so called "defeat",  I have the same reservations with Romney refused to vote for him in 2012. The said claims that he will not win by folks with no knowledge of the local Utah politics and are just expressing their wishes of how they wished the world worked.

Some of those on the right, especially some of those on the political forums like his have a point of view that they desperately want others to believe as its seen as winning or losing the game. They peddle group think and as long as it conforms to their point of view which always comes down to some flavor of the argument that at least we are better than the other guys....we're cool and we will do what we said we will do next time... :whistle:

Romney will win Utah easily..
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: Frank Cannon on April 23, 2018, 04:43:03 am
I've worked down there off and on since 82, done rather well, and have not/will not say anything against the Mormon's who in my view are one of the most socially conservative folks in the country and who walk the walk and talk the talk.

Yeah. They would never bankroll gambling, drinking and prostitution.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on April 23, 2018, 02:13:43 pm
Some of those on the right, especially some of those on the political forums like his have a point of view that they desperately want others to believe as its seen as winning or losing the game. They peddle group think and as long as it conforms to their point of view which always comes down to some flavor of the argument that at least we are better than the other guys....we're cool and we will do what we said we will do next time... :whistle:

To be honest, that's true of not just the people who argue "at least we're better than the other guys", but also those who claim we need to be more hardline.  Far too many people see what they wish to see rather than what is.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: montanajoe on June 27, 2018, 02:27:10 am
Mittens was the favorite in that convention and still came up short. Kennedy is a popular figure in UT. He also has roots in the state. He is going to clean Milts clock.

@Frank Cannon

Been waiting for a couple of months to post a reply...yep your boy sure is popular and getting his clock cleaned... :silly:

https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2018/06/27/mitt-romney-takes-huge/ (https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2018/06/27/mitt-romney-takes-huge/)
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: truth_seeker on June 27, 2018, 02:40:31 am
Romney, who is also the former Massachusetts governor and GOP presidential candidate, defeated his challenger, Dr. Mike Kennedy, a state lawmaker. Romney captured roughly 75 percent of the vote, according to FOX 13’s early analysis of numbers.


http://fox13now.com/2018/06/26/mitt-romney-wins-utah-gop-primary-race-against-mike-kennedy/ (http://fox13now.com/2018/06/26/mitt-romney-wins-utah-gop-primary-race-against-mike-kennedy/)
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: dfwgator on June 27, 2018, 02:45:54 am
Romney, who is also the former Massachusetts governor and GOP presidential candidate, defeated his challenger, Dr. Mike Kennedy, a state lawmaker. Romney captured roughly 75 percent of the vote, according to FOX 13’s early analysis of numbers.


http://fox13now.com/2018/06/26/mitt-romney-wins-utah-gop-primary-race-against-mike-kennedy/ (http://fox13now.com/2018/06/26/mitt-romney-wins-utah-gop-primary-race-against-mike-kennedy/)

Guess they like their carpetbaggers in Utah.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: Bigun on June 27, 2018, 02:47:07 am
Guess they like their carpetbaggers in Utah.

Guess so.  And they could have elected a real republican.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: GtHawk on June 27, 2018, 02:48:56 am
Milt is a loser. He is going to fail again trying to win another elected position. Delightful.
I wonder, when Mitt loses this election, will his son give another interview saying his dad didn't want to win anyway?
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: truth_seeker on June 27, 2018, 03:00:40 am
Mitt Romney will handily defeat the democrat in November, and be seated in the Senate.

Like it or not.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: Victoria33 on June 27, 2018, 03:08:09 am
@Frank Cannon
Been waiting for a couple of months to post a reply...yep your boy sure is popular and getting his clock cleaned... :silly:
https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2018/06/27/mitt-romney-takes-huge/ (https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2018/06/27/mitt-romney-takes-huge/)
@montanajoe

Me, too, I knew Utah would vote Romney in a big way.  Not surprised of the over 70%. To predict the outcome of an election, you need to know the will (behavior) of the people in the past, not use the fact that you don't like the guy so he is going to lose.  Some on this forum speak from emotion, not fact, when it comes to predicting outcome of elections. Predicting the outcome of elections as close as possible, was part of my job when I worked for the Republican Party.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: Formerly Once-Ler on June 27, 2018, 07:41:00 am
GOP presidential candidate
RINO!
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: jmyrlefuller on June 27, 2018, 12:49:07 pm
Mitt Romney will handily defeat the democrat in November, and be seated in the Senate.

Like it or not.
Any possibility of a Reverse McMullin? (That a Trumpist tries to run third party?)
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: Victoria33 on June 27, 2018, 01:06:42 pm
Any possibility of a Reverse McMullin? (That a Trumpist tries to run third party?)
@jmyrlefuller

Third parties hold their conventions in July when they select their candidates.  Their candidates' names are then put on the ballot.  There is also a cut off date by which a write-in candidate can submit his/her name to qualify as a write-in.  No other write-ins are counted on election day.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: INVAR on June 27, 2018, 01:10:33 pm
Guess they like their carpetbaggers in Utah.

They do.   Especially when they are Ruling Class Royalty.
Title: Re: Mitt Romney comes in second place at Utah GOP convention, forced into primary
Post by: Applewood on June 27, 2018, 01:26:56 pm
Romney had to win.  The liberal Republicans will eventually lose John McCain.  They needed a replacement to tell us conservatives how rotten we are.