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Title: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 19, 2020, 07:10:23 pm
Jack Posobiec
 @JackPosobiec


BREAKING: Arizona Governor Announces He Won’t Accept Election Results Until All Lawsuits Are Settled

10:37 AM · Nov 19, 2020
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1329493971341611010?s=20
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 19, 2020, 09:42:23 pm
:bkmk:
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 19, 2020, 09:45:01 pm
Jack Posobiec
 @JackPosobiec


BREAKING: Arizona Governor Announces He Won’t Accept Election Results Until All Lawsuits Are Settled

10:37 AM · Nov 19, 2020
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1329493971341611010?s=20

Ducey doesn't have the authority.  His talk is cheap.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Bigun on November 19, 2020, 09:47:42 pm
 :bkmk:
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: aligncare on November 19, 2020, 10:02:52 pm
Ducey doesn't have the authority.  His talk is cheap.

If he’s just posturing, that’s one thing. But, if he’s taking a stand on a transparently stolen election attempt, authorized or not, strong action is warranted, should be encouraged. That’s the kind of thing that should happen across the land.

Let everyone know that we will not submit our constitutional rights and be bullied into accepting the results of a stolen election.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on November 19, 2020, 11:16:03 pm
November 19, 20204:15 PMUpdated an hour ago
Judge tosses Republican bid to halt Arizona from certifying Biden election win

By Jan Wolfe


(Reuters) - A judge on Thursday dismissed a Republican-backed lawsuit seeking to halt Arizona officials from certifying President-elect Joe Biden as the winner of the state, dealing another courtroom setback to President Donald Trump and his allies.

more
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-lawsuit-arizona/judge-tosses-republican-bid-to-halt-arizona-from-certifying-biden-election-win-idUSKBN27Z373 (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-lawsuit-arizona/judge-tosses-republican-bid-to-halt-arizona-from-certifying-biden-election-win-idUSKBN27Z373)
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: aligncare on November 20, 2020, 01:13:18 am
November 19, 20204:15 PMUpdated an hour ago
Judge tosses Republican bid to halt Arizona from certifying Biden election win

By Jan Wolfe


(Reuters) - A judge on Thursday dismissed a Republican-backed lawsuit seeking to halt Arizona officials from certifying President-elect Joe Biden as the winner of the state, dealing another courtroom setback to President Donald Trump and his allies.

more
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-lawsuit-arizona/judge-tosses-republican-bid-to-halt-arizona-from-certifying-biden-election-win-idUSKBN27Z373 (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-lawsuit-arizona/judge-tosses-republican-bid-to-halt-arizona-from-certifying-biden-election-win-idUSKBN27Z373)

As the president’s suits are being knocked down at the typically political district court level in democrat cities, and make their way to appellate levels, the chances of getting a judicious ruling go up. Are there a few good judges and courts still around that value the very underpinning of democracy, free and fair elections and election integrity? I hope it’s not a toss up.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 20, 2020, 01:21:20 am
As the president’s suits are being knocked down at the typically political district court level in democrat cities, and make their way to appellate levels, the chances of getting a judicious ruling go up. Are there a few good judges and courts still around that value the very underpinning of democracy, free and fair elections and election integrity? I hope it’s not a toss up.

Even Judges who like Trump are going to toss these cases, in order to speed up the appeals, which is where we all know there's a better chance.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on November 20, 2020, 02:11:11 pm
Ducey doesn't have the authority.  His talk is cheap.
he does have a bully pulpit with the citizens though who influence the legislature.

Would you rather him pull a Romney and tell the citizens to roll over and take it?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 20, 2020, 03:03:22 pm
he does have a bully pulpit with the citizens though who influence the legislature.

Would you rather him pull a Romney and tell the citizens to roll over and take it?

He never let up on the COVID restrictions he said would be a month, and tat was in April.  He did it because the Dem mayors of 5 cities told him to slam restrictions on all the small towns, like mine.

He's weak, and yes, I expect him to come out any time now to tell us to give it up and let the demented codger be President.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on November 21, 2020, 01:42:45 am
Judge Dismisses AZ GOP’s Lawsuit Demanding Hand Recount Based on Precinct

Maricopa County Superior Court Judge John Hannah dismissed a petition from the Republican Party of Arizona on Thursday asking for a hand count audit of the votes in Maricopa County based on precinct rather than by voting centers.

Last week, the Republican Party of Arizona announced a legal challenge, demanding a hand recount of votes by precinct rather than by voting centers, citing the “fundamental difference” between the two.

“[The] most notable being the fact that there were only around 175 voting centers in this election but there were 748 precincts,” the Republican Party of Arizona said in a statement at the time.

Hannah dismissed the petition on Thursday.

“We brought this suit because the statute is clear that to audit, hand audit the electronic count, it is supposed to be done by precincts,”  Republican Party of Arizona Chairwoman Kelli Ward said in a Friday update.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/20/judge-dismisses-az-gops-lawsuit-demanding-hand-recount-based-on-precinct/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/20/judge-dismisses-az-gops-lawsuit-demanding-hand-recount-based-on-precinct/)
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 24, 2020, 06:22:04 pm
Quote
Donald J. Trump Retweeted
Paul Gosar
@DrPaulGosar


Do not read this affidavit from an IT expert. We know what is documented here is impossible as the Maricopa County Supervisors told us everything is fine and go back to sleep and pay your taxes and wear a mask. And leftist reporters told us to move on.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1329162121943216130/dBzSTvvZ?format=jpg&name=900x900)

11:12 PM · Nov 22, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/DrPaulGosar/status/1330725927051960322 (https://twitter.com/DrPaulGosar/status/1330725927051960322)


Full affidavit here:  https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.gand.283580/gov.uscourts.gand.283580.7.1_2.pdf (https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.gand.283580/gov.uscourts.gand.283580.7.1_2.pdf)
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on November 24, 2020, 10:10:24 pm
BREAKING: Ballot Count Upload Error in Arizona — Over 6,000 False Biden Votes Discovered
By Cassandra Fairbanks
Published November 24, 2020 at 3:14pm

Joe Biden’s lead in Arizona dropped from 10,377 votes to 4,202 after a machine error was discovered on Tuesday.

The error was from a faulty upload from Greenlee County, which showed 22,110 votes — but should have been 3,723. State officials say that it was temporary and has now been corrected.

Joe Biden’s lead in Arizona dropped from 10,377 votes to 4,202 after a machine error was discovered on Tuesday.

The error was from a faulty upload from Greenlee County, which showed 22,110 votes — but should have been 3,723. State officials say that it was temporary and has now been corrected.

more
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-ballot-count-upload-error-arizona-6000-false-biden-votes-discovered/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/breaking-ballot-count-upload-error-arizona-6000-false-biden-votes-discovered/)
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 24, 2020, 10:20:41 pm
Jenna Ellis
@JennaEllisEsq


(https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f6a8.svg)(https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f6a8.svg)(https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f6a8.svg)  NEW: PENNSYLVANIA, ARIZONA, MICHIGAN LEGISLATURES TO HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS ON 2020 ELECTION

Trump Legal Team Statement

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5:08 PM · Nov 24, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/JennaEllisEsq/status/1331359074114482176
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 24, 2020, 10:31:02 pm
The AZ - abc15 - Data Guru
@Garrett_Archer


Getting this in now:

State...UNOFFICIAL results have Biden and Trump separated by 4,202 votes right now.

This morning it was 10,377. The difference?  A faulty upload from Greenlee county. They show 22,110 votes. Should be 3,723


Certified canvass: https://co.greenlee.az.us/pdf/2020%20General%20Election%20Canvass.pdf

2:50 PM · Nov 24, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/Garrett_Archer/status/1331324442136309761



Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 24, 2020, 10:33:40 pm
The AZ - abc15 - Data Guru
@Garrett_Archer


Getting this in now:

State...UNOFFICIAL results have Biden and Trump separated by 4,202 votes right now.

This morning it was 10,377. The difference?  A faulty upload from Greenlee county. They show 22,110 votes. Should be 3,723


https://twitter.com/Garrett_Archer/status/1331324442136309761
2:50 PM · Nov 24, 2020·Twitter Web App


(https://i.postimg.cc/TYXm0r23/Ballot-Mistakes.jpg)
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: aligncare on November 24, 2020, 10:37:22 pm

(https://i.postimg.cc/TYXm0r23/Ballot-Mistakes.jpg)

...could it be...satan?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 26, 2020, 12:27:29 am
Arizona Republican Party
@AZGOP


In today's update, Chairwoman @kelliwardaz lays out the specifics of the "Elections Contest" petition filed yesterday to allow for early investigation of mail-in ballots including signed envelopes, and access to compare the signatures on the ballots to signatures on file.

Video: https://twitter.com/AZGOP/status/1331628717383307264

11:00 AM · Nov 25, 2020·Twitter Media Studio
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on November 26, 2020, 02:24:02 am
Arizona Republican Party
@AZGOP


In today's update, Chairwoman @kelliwardaz lays out the specifics of the "Elections Contest" petition filed yesterday to allow for early investigation of mail-in ballots including signed envelopes, and access to compare the signatures on the ballots to signatures on file.

Video: https://twitter.com/AZGOP/status/1331628717383307264

11:00 AM · Nov 25, 2020·Twitter Media Studio
This is progress.

Looks like I will enjoy Thanksgiving even more than I had thought just a few days ago.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Bigun on November 26, 2020, 02:51:26 am
This is progress.

Looks like I will enjoy Thanksgiving even more than I had thought just a few days ago.

Watching a good part of the proceedings in Pennsylvania today greatly buoyed my spirits @IsailedawayfromFR I hope you have a GREAT Thanksgiving!
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on November 26, 2020, 02:53:13 am
Watching a good part of the proceedings in Pennsylvania today greatly buoyed my spirits @IsailedawayfromFR I hope you have a GREAT Thanksgiving!
Thank you so much, you too.

And I trust you made the contact to obtain that book. @Bigun
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Bigun on November 26, 2020, 02:16:40 pm
Thank you so much, you too.

And I trust you made the contact to obtain that book. @Bigun

Unfortunately, I have not as yet had an opportunity to speak with him but once this election business is settled I fully intend to do that. @IsailedawayfromFR
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on November 26, 2020, 03:28:03 pm
Unfortunately, I have not as yet had an opportunity to speak with him but once this election business is settled I fully intend to do that. @IsailedawayfromFR
Good.  His position am sure is coming to end in the near future so wish him well for me.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Bigun on November 26, 2020, 03:29:24 pm
Good.  His position am sure is coming to end in the near future so wish him well for me.

Will do! As soon as I see him.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 27, 2020, 02:15:12 am
Paul Gosar
@DrPaulGosar


“In Arizona at least 35,000 votes were illegally added to Mr. Biden’s vote count.”  Pearson v. Kemp, p. 2 N. 1. 
@kelliwardaz @AZGOP @BarnettforAZ @ali

1:13 AM · Nov 26, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/DrPaulGosar/status/1331843532126965760
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 27, 2020, 03:04:44 pm
Paul Gosar
@DrPaulGosar


“In Arizona at least 35,000 votes were illegally added to Mr. Biden’s vote count.”  Pearson v. Kemp, p. 2 N. 1. 
@kelliwardaz @AZGOP @BarnettforAZ @ali

1:13 AM · Nov 26, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/DrPaulGosar/status/1331843532126965760

Paul Gosar is my rep, and his work in this topic has me smiling.  I don't know if can serve past this new term, he looked sorta sick last time I met him.  I fear there's Parkinson's lurking under the surface.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: rustynail on November 27, 2020, 03:08:46 pm
Paul Gosar is my rep, and his work in this topic has me smiling.  I don't know if can serve past this new term, he looked sorta sick last time I met him.  I fear there's Parkinson's lurking under the surface.
He could switch to democrat they seem to never die.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 27, 2020, 03:44:05 pm
He could switch to democrat they seem to never die.

It worked for Maverick John McStain....
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 28, 2020, 03:01:20 am
Quote
Jenna Ellis
@JennaEllisEsq


(https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f6a8.svg)  (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f6a8.svg)  (https://abs-0.twimg.com/emoji/v2/svg/1f6a8.svg)

Arizona State Legislature to hold hearing on election integrity Monday, November 30. Mayor @RudyGiuliani and I will be present on behalf of President @realDonaldTrump
.
https://eventbrite.com/e/urgent-public-hearing-w-presidents-legal-team-on-arizona-election-results-tickets-130631992807?ref=eios

3:01 PM · Nov 27, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/JennaEllisEsq/status/1332414252003581954

Date And Time
Mon, November 30, 2020
9:00 AM – 2:00 PM MST

Location
Hyatt Regency Phoenix
122 North 2nd Street
Phoenix, AZ 85004
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mountaineer on November 28, 2020, 06:06:56 pm
Re the Jenna Ellis tweet above:
Quote
Paul Gosar  @DrPaulGosar
I will be there. I am asking all patriots to come to the Hyatt Hotel downtown Phoenix at 9-10:30 am and show support for this hearing.  #ArizonaHearing #stopthecoup @JennaEllisEsq @AZGOP
Quote Tweet Jenna Ellis  @JennaEllisEsq
 Â· 22h
Arizona State Legislature to hold hearing on election integrity Monday, November 30. Mayor @RudyGiuliani and I will be present on behalf of President @realDonaldTrump.

8:36 PM · Nov 27, 2020·
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on November 28, 2020, 08:05:56 pm
Trump’s Legal Team to Participate in Public ‘Hearing on Election Integrity’ with Arizona Lawmakers

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/28/trumps-legal-team-to-participate-in-public-hearing-on-election-integrity-with-az-lawmakers/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/28/trumps-legal-team-to-participate-in-public-hearing-on-election-integrity-with-az-lawmakers/)
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on November 29, 2020, 02:38:13 am
Major Patriot
@MajorPatriot
·
11h
BREAKING:  Hearing in Arizona on Monday now standing room only due to public demand.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 30, 2020, 03:12:01 pm
LIVE: Arizona State Legislature Holds Public Hearing on 2020 Election
Nov 30, 2020, 11:00 am ET

Live stream starting shortly ...


Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rri6flxaXww#)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rri6flxaXww (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rri6flxaXww)
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 30, 2020, 03:19:38 pm
LIVE: Arizona State Legislature Holds Public Hearing on 2020 Election
Nov 30, 2020, 11:00 am ET

Live stream starting shortly ...


Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rri6flxaXww#)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rri6flxaXww (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rri6flxaXww)

 :2popcorn: :2popcorn:
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 30, 2020, 07:12:37 pm
Robert Barnes
@Barnes_Law


This does not mean Biden will receive the state's electoral votes. Certification triggers the right to contest the election, the Governor has said he won't certify electors until litigation is resolved, legislators can still send their own electors, and Congress can still object.

Quote
Marc E. Elias
@marceelias

BREAKING: Arizona has certified the results of the 2020 general election. Joe Biden will receive state's electoral votes.


1:33 PM · Nov 30, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1333479286255222784

Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 30, 2020, 07:16:51 pm
Robert Barnes
@Barnes_Law


This does not mean Biden will receive the state's electoral votes. Certification triggers the right to contest the election, the Governor has said he won't certify electors until litigation is resolved, legislators can still send their own electors, and Congress can still object.


1:33 PM · Nov 30, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1333479286255222784

We're dependent on a Doug Ducey promise?  We're so screwed.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on November 30, 2020, 08:03:25 pm
AZ GOP Chair Kelli Ward: ‘Farce’ for ‘Radical Leftist’ Secretary of State to Certify Election Results and ‘Ignore the Possibilities of Fraud’
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/30/az-gop-chair-kelli-ward-farce-radical-leftist-secretary-state-certify-election-results-ignore-possibilities-fraud/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/30/az-gop-chair-kelli-ward-farce-radical-leftist-secretary-state-certify-election-results-ignore-possibilities-fraud/)
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 30, 2020, 10:07:53 pm
Chanel Rion OAN
@ChanelRion


Dr. Shiva @va_shiva presents data to the #AZHearing Session: Votes were unnaturally altered in order to bolster Joe Biden.

Shiva's data models show the only way for Biden to have statistically caught up with Trump was if votes came in at 130% for Biden and -30% for Trump.


4:11 PM · Nov 30, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/ChanelRion/status/1333519029718269957
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 30, 2020, 10:14:23 pm
Maria Bartiromo
@MariaBartiromo


Trump still has 'multiple paths' to victory: Jenna Ellis http://ow.ly/M7sm30rmnEe (http://ow.ly/M7sm30rmnEe) 

Video: https://twitter.com/MariaBartiromo/status/1333420557375827977 (https://twitter.com/MariaBartiromo/status/1333420557375827977)


9:40 AM · Nov 30, 2020·Hootsuite Inc.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 30, 2020, 10:18:06 pm
This is a rather informative video:  pointing-down

Maria Bartiromo
@MariaBartiromo


Trump still has 'multiple paths' to victory: Jenna Ellis http://ow.ly/M7sm30rmnEe (http://ow.ly/M7sm30rmnEe) 

Video: https://twitter.com/MariaBartiromo/status/1333420557375827977 (https://twitter.com/MariaBartiromo/status/1333420557375827977)


9:40 AM · Nov 30, 2020·Hootsuite Inc.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 30, 2020, 10:25:18 pm
Jenna Ellis
@JennaEllisEsq


The certification of Arizona’s FALSE results is unethical and knowingly participating in the corruption that has disenfranchised AZ voters.

BUT, this in no way impacts the state legislature’s ability to take back the proper selection of delegates.


3:04 PM · Nov 30, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/JennaEllisEsq/status/1333502306176835588
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 30, 2020, 10:48:46 pm
LIVE: Arizona State Legislature Holds Public Hearing on 2020 Election
Nov 30, 2020, 11:00 am ET


Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rri6flxaXww#)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rri6flxaXww (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rri6flxaXww)


Hearing is still going on   pointing-up
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 30, 2020, 10:52:05 pm
Looks like Bernie Kerik (former NY Police Commissioner) is working with Rudy and Jenna ... I think that's him sitting behind Rudy at the Arizona hearing.


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Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 30, 2020, 10:53:28 pm
It really is damn brave of these folks to testify.   :patriot:
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 30, 2020, 11:09:36 pm
Team Trump
@TeamTrump


Mayor @RudyGiuliani to Arizona state legislatures: “Your political career is worth losing if you can save the right to vote in America.”

Video (with applause)  https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1333455219942961159

11:57 AM · Nov 30, 2020·Twitter Media Studio
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 30, 2020, 11:18:51 pm
The Columbia
@ColumbiaBugle


.@MattBraynard At Public Hearing in Arizona On The 2020 Election

"I have a high degree of confidence that the number of ballots that were cast that should not have been cast, illegal ballots, surpasses the margin of victory as it stands right now."

Video:   https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1333532688855154688

5:05 PM · Nov 30, 2020·Twitter Web App


Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 30, 2020, 11:23:09 pm
Team Trump
@TeamTrump


Expert witness says he believes the numbers in Arizona are fraudulent based on the data: "I'd rather resign than have certified those results" in Arizona today

Video: https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1333533891869757443

5:10 PM · Nov 30, 2020·Twitter Media Studio
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 30, 2020, 11:26:22 pm
Good information being exposed today, can't wait to see Rudy's Tweets tonight...
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 30, 2020, 11:29:12 pm
Team Trump
@TeamTrump


Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai presents his data at the #ArizonaHearing, showing the only way for Biden to have statistically caught up with
@realDonaldTrump was if Democrat votes came in at 130% for Biden and -30% for Trump

Video: https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1333523364993003523

4:28 PM · Nov 30, 2020·Twitter Media Studio


 :bingo:
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 30, 2020, 11:32:43 pm
Good information being exposed today, can't wait to see Rudy's Tweets tonight...

The videos posted have excellent audio today @Cyber Liberty  ... and lots of information.



Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on November 30, 2020, 11:35:43 pm
Team Trump
@TeamTrump


Witness in #ArizonaHearing: "They thought they were done [counting ballots] and then more truck loads of ballots were coming in. I'm like, 'how can you not know how many ballots are still out there?'"

Video: https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1333541228802174976

5:39 PM · Nov 30, 2020·Twitter Media Studio
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on November 30, 2020, 11:39:47 pm
The videos posted have excellent audio today @Cyber Liberty  ... and lots of information.

One witness said a lot of ballots were coming in from "off-site counting locations."
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Victoria33 on November 30, 2020, 11:57:01 pm
@Cyber Liberty
Will send you PM tomorrow.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 01, 2020, 12:00:49 am
Envelopes were opened in one location, then transported to another location, with the contents exposed for anybody to get at them in the process that took days.  This is absolutely insane!  Philly-magnitude cheating, in AZ.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Victoria33 on December 01, 2020, 12:04:27 am
Envelopes were opened in one location, then transported to another location, with the contents exposed for anybody to get at them in the process that took days.  This is absolutely insane!  Philly-magnitude cheating, in AZ.
@Cyber Liberty

Thanks for that info.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Bigun on December 01, 2020, 12:11:51 am
It really is damn brave of these folks to testify.   :patriot:

 :yowsa: It comes under the heading of the people rising up IMHO.  @Right_in_Virginia
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 01, 2020, 12:25:40 am
OMG!  This witness is the Acting Chair of the Maricopa County GOP!
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 01, 2020, 12:31:48 am
As Acting Chair of the party, she says she refused to certify the Dominion S/W update because a bunch of Dominion machines failed repeatability, and the County Elections officials ignored her.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 01, 2020, 12:35:15 am
She saw a Trump vote turned into a Biden vote. 
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 01, 2020, 12:46:31 am
Guiliani:  "Why would the Governor sign off Smartmatic/Dominion equipment?"

Witness:  "He's bought and paid for."
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: skeeter on December 01, 2020, 12:48:45 am
Guiliani:  "Why would the Governor sign off Smartmatic/Dominion equipment?"

Witness:  "He's bought and paid for."
Guiliani: “I didn’t expect that answer” hilarious.

Got a round of applause too.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 01, 2020, 12:55:40 am
Guiliani: “I didn’t expect that answer” hilarious.

Got a round of applause too.

This is a choice witness.  Nobody's fool
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 01, 2020, 01:12:13 am
Team Trump
@TeamTrump


President @realDonaldTrump's full remarks at the #ArizonaHearing on massive voter fraud in the 2020 Election

Video: https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1333566240649080837

7:19 PM · Nov 30, 2020·Twitter Media Studio
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 01, 2020, 01:19:24 am
(https://media.thedonald.win/post/22Zhzrgt.png)

Do you believe the effing shit that's happening right before our very eyes??   9999hair out0000

This is part of his testimony:  Video:  https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1333533891869757443
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 01, 2020, 01:23:35 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoHJwJmW8AI6fJg?format=jpg&name=small)

7:29 PM · Nov 30, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/AZGOP/status/1333568800214552576
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 01, 2020, 01:43:53 am
Chanel Rion OAN
@ChanelRion


Next AZ Witness Speaks before the AZ Fact Finding Session:

126k "Fake People" in voting Tally.

County by county breakdown all the way back to 2008 - if gov. data to be believed up to 97% of registered voters "voted."

Calls on President Trump to audit the entire country.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoGmnDZVcAAR8hZ?format=jpg&name=small)

4:55 PM · Nov 30, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/ChanelRion/status/1333530170511171586
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 01, 2020, 01:58:34 am
I was well represented today!  My District's Senator and one of my Representatives were on the panel.  "Sonny" and "Leo."  Leo is about to give his closing comment.

Leo Biasiucci gave a great speech.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: skeeter on December 01, 2020, 02:04:10 am
I was well represented today!  My District's Senator and one of my Representatives were on the panel.  "Sonny" and "Leo."  Leo is about to give his closing comment.
it sure sounds like these folks won’t agree to send Biden electors - what do you think?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on December 01, 2020, 02:04:53 am
I wish Georgia had legislators like these.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 01, 2020, 02:06:46 am
it sure sounds like these folks won’t agree to certify - what do you think?

Nope. The case is being made the AZ Election is FUBAR, and the Legislature must act.  Leo's partner on this panel is Sonny Borrelli, my Senator.  I know him, met him a few times since I moved here, and he's also the Senate Majority Whip.  He has better than average pull with the Senate.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on December 01, 2020, 02:08:50 am
Sylvia Allen is awesome.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 01, 2020, 02:12:16 am
Sonny Borrelli's up!!
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Victoria33 on December 01, 2020, 03:37:17 am
@Cyber Liberty
@libertybele

FROM ME: DUPLICATE BALLOTS - WHY/HOW THIS HAPPENS:

Look at the ruling of Judge Warner in favor of the Republican Party petition to allow for inspection of certain items:

Mail-in ballots:  "...the ability to review a selection of 'duplicate' ballots against the original ballots from which they were duplicated."

Mail ballots are paper ballots.  The Board evaluating mail ballots is an equal number of Republicans and Democrats, one of each together evaluating one voter's mail ballot materials.  Once the materials have passed the required evaluation, the envelope holding the actual ballot is set aside.   Once there is a pile of ballot envelopes holding the ballot, the envelopes are opened and the ballot taken out.  The ballots are stacked up and at some point, are taken to the counting machine people.  They feed the paper ballots through the counting machine and some are kicked out - they won't go through the machine.  These machine rejected paper ballots are taken to another Board.  This Board is the "Resolution Board" - made up of same number of Republicans and Democrats, working in groups of two, one of each party.  There is a Judge overseeing the work, answering questions.

You would have to see these rejected paper ballots to understand how people can "screw up" (that is a professional word), a paper ballot so the machine can't count it:
voting for more than one for an office; using a Crayola to mark it, using house paint to mark it, circling the desired choice, heavily marking out all the ones he/she does not want, leaving the ones he/she does want; torn page; writing on the ballot edges; if there is space for a write-in, write-in Mickey Mouse, some other name not a candidate's name, or curse words.

The teams of two, one Republican, one Democrat, try to deduce what the voter intended.  If that can be done, a new ballot is marked with one marking and the other watching the marking.  Once that is done, the Judge signs the back of the new ballot making it legal and also put the number of the old ballot on the back of new ballot.  The number of the new ballot is written on the back of the old ballot along with the Judge's signature.  The two paper ballots are paper clipped together and taken to the machine counters.  The new ballot is counted and the old ballot is set aside in a pile and kept for the required amount of time. 

I wrote the above to show what is meant by "duplicate ballots".
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 01, 2020, 03:46:41 am
@Cyber Liberty
@libertybele

FROM ME: DUPLICATE BALLOTS - WHY/HOW THIS HAPPENS:

Look at the ruling of Judge Warner in favor of the Republican Party petition to allow for inspection of certain items:

Mail-in ballots:  "...the ability to review a selection of 'duplicate' ballots against the original ballots from which they were duplicated."

Mail ballots are paper ballots.  The Board evaluating mail ballots is an equal number of Republicans and Democrats, one of each together evaluating one voter's mail ballot materials.  Once the materials have passed the required evaluation, the envelope holding the actual ballot is set aside.   Once there is a pile of ballot envelopes holding the ballot, the envelopes are opened and the ballot taken out.  The ballots are stacked up and at some point, are taken to the counting machine people.  They feed the paper ballots through the counting machine and some are kicked out - they won't go through the machine.  These machine rejected paper ballots are taken to another Board.  This Board is the "Resolution Board" - made up of same number of Republicans and Democrats, working in groups of two, one of each party.  There is a Judge overseeing the work, answering questions.

You would have to see these rejected paper ballots to understand how people can "screw up" (that is a professional word), a paper ballot so the machine can't count it:
voting for more than one for an office; using a Crayola to mark it, using house paint to mark it, circling the desired choice, heavily marking out all the ones he/she does not want, leaving the ones he/she does want; torn page; writing on the ballot edges; if there is space for a write-in, write-in Mickey Mouse, some other name not a candidate's name, or curse words.

The teams of two, one Republican, one Democrat, try to deduce what the voter intended.  If that can be done, a new ballot is marked with one marking and the other watching the marking.  Once that is done, the Judge signs the back of the new ballot making it legal and also put the number of the old ballot on the back of new ballot.  The number of the new ballot is written on the back of the old ballot along with the Judge's signature.  The two paper ballots are paper clipped together and taken to the machine counters.  The new ballot is counted and the old ballot is set aside in a pile and kept for the required amount of time. 

I wrote the above to show what is meant by "duplicate ballots".

Yes, I was watching people talk about that all day.  A lot more of this goes on than I thought, and it appears there's been a serious breach with the duplicates.  To easy to just mark down who the worker pleases.  The biggest single complaint of the day was Republicans being blocked from participating.  Many times Democrats, County workers and Dominion contractors worked on ballots unsupervised.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 01, 2020, 04:48:22 am
Naty
@NatyLiy


BREAKING: #ArizonaHearing: "Are you willing to say under oath, that you've seen the connection to the internet, that you've seen it gone offshore to Frankfurt, Germany?"

Col. Waldron: "Yes, our "White" hat hackers, they have that traffic and the packets."

Video: https://twitter.com/NatyLiy/status/1333500580287950849

2:58 PM · Nov 30, 2020·Twitter for Android
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on December 01, 2020, 04:53:00 am

The teams of two, one Republican, one Democrat, try to deduce what the voter intended.  If that can be done, a new ballot is marked with one marking and the other watching the marking.  Once that is done, the Judge signs the back of the new ballot making it legal and also put the number of the old ballot on the back of new ballot.  The number of the new ballot is written on the back of the old ballot along with the Judge's signature.  The two paper ballots are paper clipped together and taken to the machine counters.  The new ballot is counted and the old ballot is set aside in a pile and kept for the required amount of time. 

I wrote the above to show what is meant by "duplicate ballots".

That's how it's done in Georgia, except that there is no judge, no envelope signature checks nor retention of envelopes, no clipping together of ballots, and no signature on the back.  Only highlighter on the front which earmarks them as Biden ballots.  Other than that, it is exactly as you described.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 01, 2020, 04:55:00 am
Team Trump
@TeamTrump

.
@JennaEllisEsq to the Arizona state legislature: You are the sole guardian to combat a corrupted election

Video: https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1333590893409034240

8:57 PM · Nov 30, 2020·Twitter Media Studio
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 01, 2020, 05:46:57 am
BILL MANRIQUE
@billmanrique


***  BREAKING!!  ***

The Arizona State Legislature has approved a Special Session under U.S. Constitution Article II §1.2  to choose and appoint Electors due to extensive corruption of law in the State.  This is a huge Victory for @realDonaldTrump

Quote
Team Trump
@TeamTrump

.
@JennaEllisEsq to the Arizona state legislature: You are the sole guardian to combat a corrupted election

Video:   https://twitter.com/TeamTrump/status/1333590893409034240

11:39 PM · Nov 30, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/billmanrique/status/1333631785318703104
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 01, 2020, 01:37:15 pm
I awaken this morning to see that Ducey broke his promise to not certify while there is doubt about the fairness of the election.  Another day, another broken promise.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 01, 2020, 07:34:53 pm
Donald J. Trump Retweeted
Melissa Tate #StopTheSteal
@TheRightMelissa


Fake media preys on ignorance of how election process works

Certifications are just clerical & not legally binding.. in fact in order to legally file an election contest it has to have been certified 1st. So Arizona certification is just the 1st step in a soon to follow contest


8:32 PM · Nov 30, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/TheRightMelissa/status/1333584785944539139
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 01, 2020, 07:43:06 pm
Donald J. Trump Retweeted
Melissa Tate #StopTheSteal
@TheRightMelissa


Fake media preys on ignorance of how election process works

Certifications are just clerical & not legally binding.. in fact in order to legally file an election contest it has to have been certified 1st. So Arizona certification is just the 1st step in a soon to follow contest


8:32 PM · Nov 30, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/TheRightMelissa/status/1333584785944539139

Folks have forgotten many things since 2000, last time this happened.  Cert has to come first, so the gnashing of teeth and rending of garments over the certifications is unnecessary.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 01, 2020, 08:18:29 pm
Rudy W. Giuliani
@RudyGiuliani


During the hearing yesterday on #VoterFraud the witnesses described over 400,000 illegal ballots entered under the direction of Democrat officials in Maricopa and Pima Counties, Arizona.

Another part of the biggest election fraud in American history.


9:05 AM · Dec 1, 2020·Twitter for iPad
https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1333774107624685569
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 02, 2020, 05:19:25 pm
Emerald Robinson
@EmeraldRobinson


The Arizona Hearing.

Legislator: "Are you willing to say under oath that you have seen the connection to the Internet, you have seen it go offshore to Germany?"

Retired Col. Phil Waldron: "Our white hat hackers, yes, they have that traffic in the packets."


5:46 PM · Dec 1, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1333905213187567620
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 02, 2020, 05:33:48 pm
Emerald Robinson
@EmeraldRobinson


The Arizona Hearing.

Legislator: "Are you willing to say under oath that you have seen the connection to the Internet, you have seen it go offshore to Germany?"

Retired Col. Phil Waldron: "Our white hat hackers, yes, they have that traffic in the packets."


5:46 PM · Dec 1, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1333905213187567620

"Hacked evidence!" will be the new buzz phrase to poo poo the allegations.  Twitter used this excuse to lock the 4th largest newspaper in America out of the platform.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 02, 2020, 11:54:49 pm
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump


In Arizona, it turns out that 3% of the votes cast in the 100 count vote sampling were tainted or worse. This would be, if carried forward, approximately 90,000 votes more than we would need to win the State. Now we were granted a much larger sample to work with. Wow!


6:43 PM · Dec 2, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1334282156349267970
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on December 04, 2020, 02:29:01 am
Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Governor @dougducey
 of Arizona hired a lawyer today. Wouldn’t allowing a strong check of ballots, which would be easier and so much better for our Country, be easier on him and the great State of Arizona?
7:15 PM · Dec 3, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 04, 2020, 04:40:14 am
Arizona Republican Party
@AZGOP


Sidney Powell sues Arizona officials over Dominion software, alleges 412,000 illegal ballots - https://go.shr.lc/3g1oDc9 -
@washtimes

5:53 PM · Dec 3, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/AZGOP/status/1334631750497050626


Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump


Governor @dougducey of Arizona hired a lawyer today. Wouldn’t allowing a strong check of ballots, which would be easier and so much better for our Country, be easier on him and the great State of Arizona?


8:15 PM · Dec 3, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1334667685536411648
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 04, 2020, 10:22:31 pm
Emerald Robinson
@EmeraldRobinson


RIP: Arizona Gov. @dougducey

Quote
Nicole Garcia Candidate Phoenix City Council
@garciaforphx
.
@dougducey  just got served with a lawsuit for certifying the fraudulent election by @SidneyPowell1 and other members of the
@AZGOP
 
Lawsuit demands a decertification.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoRJALTUUAA3GIl?format=jpg&name=small)

4:50 PM · Dec 4, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1334978339422019586
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on December 04, 2020, 11:04:41 pm
Arizona Legislature Calls for Immediate ‘Forensic Audit’ of Dominion Voting Machines

The Arizona House and Senate have called for an audit of the Maricopa County election software and equipment following allegations of fraud and other irregularities presented by President Donald Trump’s team earlier this week.

In a news release Friday, GOP leaders of the Republican-controlled legislature sought an independent audit of Dominion Voting Systems software—used in Maricopa County—called for the audit.

State Sen. Michelle Ugenti-Rita, a Republican said that Maricopa County’s Board of Supervisors “is supportive of conducting an independent audit of their voting software and equipment,” adding: “It is important we maintain all of the voting public’s confidence in our elections, and this is a positive step.”

House Majority Leader Warren Petersen, a Republican, said that “a significant number of voters believe that fraud occurred,” citing “the number of irregularities” that allegedly occurred in Maricopa County and elsewhere in the state.

more
https://www.theepochtimes.com/arizona-legislature-calls-for-immediate-forensic-audit-of-dominion-voting-machines_3605367.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-12-04-4 (https://www.theepochtimes.com/arizona-legislature-calls-for-immediate-forensic-audit-of-dominion-voting-machines_3605367.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2020-12-04-4)
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 07, 2020, 09:02:50 pm
Praying Medic
@prayingmedic

.
@kelliwardaz filed an appeal to the AZ Supreme Court on Friday. Today, the court said it would decide the matter without oral arguments.

Parties were ordered to file simultaneous briefs of no longer than 3,000 words plus exhibits.

(More: https://ktar.com/story/3734357/arizona-gop-chair-kelli-ward-takes-election-lawsuit-to-state-supreme-court/ )

2:56 PM · Dec 7, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/prayingmedic/status/1336036865346924544
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 07, 2020, 10:22:53 pm
Praying Medic
@prayingmedic

.
@kelliwardaz filed an appeal to the AZ Supreme Court on Friday. Today, the court said it would decide the matter without oral arguments.

Parties were ordered to file simultaneous briefs of no longer than 3,000 words plus exhibits.

(More: https://ktar.com/story/3734357/arizona-gop-chair-kelli-ward-takes-election-lawsuit-to-state-supreme-court/ )

2:56 PM · Dec 7, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/prayingmedic/status/1336036865346924544

I don't trust any of the contested States' Supreme Courts.  Not with all the Republican traitors in state-wide Offices lately, showing their true stripes.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on December 09, 2020, 05:16:33 pm
Arizona Supreme Court Knocks Down State GOP’s Election Challenge

The Arizona Supreme Court on Tuesday knocked down a challenge by the state’s GOP chairwoman, Dr. Kelli Ward, affirming former Vice President Joe Biden’s victory in the state.

Earlier this week, the state’s high court agreed to review Ward’s election integrity challenge following Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Steven Warner dismissing the suit. He concluded that Ward had “not proven that the Biden/Harris ticket did not receive the highest number of votes.”

The state GOP chair had requested to review duplicate ballots in addition to the 1,626 duplicated ballot sample that had already been completed. The sample found that Trump had lost seven votes in Maricopa County due to errors, with nine errors in total.

“We’re filing those papers today, so hopefully we’re going to see some more action there because we are asking to look at the 28,000 duplicated ballots that are in Maricopa County alone, as well as all of the digitally adjudicated ballots,” Ward said on Monday, estimating that there were “100,000 ballots that could be affected” statewide.

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    The high court said Ward “offered no evidence” to show that the sample was inadequate or that there was any widespread fraud that could be proven with more samples. The Supreme Court said even if the error rate stayed the same for all 27,869 duplicate ballots, there would only be 153 votes with errors, which would not be enough to call the election results into questions.

    Court documents said the Arizona Supreme Court “unanimously” concluded that the judge in the Maricopa County Superior Court didn’t abuse his power in denying the further inspection of ballots. The court said the challenge failed to present “any evidence of ‘misconduct,’ ‘illegal votes’ or that the Biden Electors ‘did not in fact receive the highest number of votes for office’” let alone establish any degree of fraud or a sufficient error rate that would undermine the certainty of the election results.”

more
https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/12/09/arizona-supreme-court-knocks-down-state-gops-election-challenge/ (https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/12/09/arizona-supreme-court-knocks-down-state-gops-election-challenge/)
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 10, 2020, 11:57:36 pm
RSBN
@RSBNetwork

🚨BREAKING: Arizona Senate Judiciary Committee to hold a hearing tomorrow at 9:00 am to take testimony (and issue subpoenas as deemed appropriate) regarding election integrity. 🚨


2:52 PM · Dec 10, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/RSBNetwork/status/1337123154569916416

Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 14, 2020, 11:06:21 pm
#BREAKING: AZ Senate Judiciary Committee issuing subpoenas to review ballots, Dominion machines, and related voting documents out of Maricopa County.@OANN— Chanel Rion OAN (@ChanelRion) December 14, 2020
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 14, 2020, 11:11:24 pm
Watch this for a complete change of pace   pointing-down

🤍eve🤍
@eveforamerica


I can’t compute this. Magnificent.

Video: https://twitter.com/eveforamerica/status/1338479946470203398

8:44 AM · Dec 14, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 14, 2020, 11:27:55 pm
Chanel Rion OAN
@ChanelRion


The FEC's allowable Error Rate is 1 in 250k, or, 0.0008%

According to MI Forensics Audit of 16 Dominion Machines, error rate was 68.5% #AlliedSecOpsGroup

MI Dems have since ordered all 83 Counties to DELETE all election and software data from Dominion machines.

12:30 PM · Dec 14, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/ChanelRion/status/1338536919056195585
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on December 14, 2020, 11:32:31 pm
Leo Biasiucci
@Leo4AzHouse


Arizona Senate Judiciary Chairman E. Farnsworth just announced in committee the authorization for a full forensic audit on Dominion machines and software.


5:21 PM · Dec 14, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/Leo4AzHouse/status/1338610104581517312
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on December 18, 2020, 01:51:43 am
@Cyber Liberty

Check out the video at this link explaining how votes were injected into the system as time went on.  How can regular folks like us get access to the Java code of these time stamp breakdowns?

https://rumble.com/vbyvln-a-close-look-at-the-data-arizona.html
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 18, 2020, 01:58:29 am
@Cyber Liberty

Check out the video at this link explaining how votes were injected into the system as time went on.  How can regular folks like us get access to the Java code of these time stamp breakdowns?

https://rumble.com/vbyvln-a-close-look-at-the-data-arizona.html

 :pondering:
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Elderberry on December 18, 2020, 11:04:34 pm
BREAKING: Maricopa County Board Refuses to Allow Audit of Dominion Machines

By The Wiz on December 18, 2020   

https://electionwiz.com/2020/12/18/breaking-maricopa-county-board-refuses-to-allow-audit-of-dominion-machines/ (https://electionwiz.com/2020/12/18/breaking-maricopa-county-board-refuses-to-allow-audit-of-dominion-machines/)

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PHOENIX — The Maricopa Board of Supervisors voted 4-1 today defy the state lawmakers and resist complying with legislative subpoenas. Instead of allowing a transparent audit, the board voted to file a lawsuit against lawmakers in Arizona state court to block the enforcement of the subpoenas.

The Chairman of the Board, Clint Hickman (R), described the subpoenas as unrealistic and unconstitutional.

The subpoenas were issued earlier this week by Arizona lawmakers, who sought to force an audit of Dominion voting machines used by Maricopa County.

Arizona Republican Party
@AZGOP

 Maricopa Supervisors vote 4-1 to RESIST & fight the legislative subpoenas.

Democrat @Steve_Gallardo
 & Republican Sups Clint Hickman, @jacksellers
, @billgatesaz
 vote to take it to Court.

Republican Sup @Steve_Chucri
 opposed the measure in favor of a transparent audit.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on December 19, 2020, 12:23:02 am
Maricopa County Board Goes To Court Over Legislative Subpoena (https://kjzz.org/content/1644542/maricopa-county-board-goes-court-over-legislative-subpoena)
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on December 19, 2020, 12:38:59 am
‘Arizona Certified Fraudulent Votes’ Data Scientists Claim
https://amgreatness.com/2020/12/17/arizona-certified-fraudulent-votes-data-scientists-claim/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 19, 2020, 12:39:57 am
Maricopa County Board Goes To Court Over Legislative Subpoena (https://kjzz.org/content/1644542/maricopa-county-board-goes-court-over-legislative-subpoena)

These are the Supervisors who, several months ago, decided NOT to remove the Maricopa County Recorder from running the Election in that benighted County.  They had a motion, and then shelved/ignored it.   9999hair out0000

That Democrat Recorder lost his election, BTW.  He cheated his ass off for Biteme, and forgot he needed to get reelected to his own seat.  He lost.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: libertybele on December 19, 2020, 12:46:50 am
This election is nothing but one big Cluster.  I think I'm the angriest at most disgusted at our SCOTUS.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 19, 2020, 01:08:43 am
This election is nothing but one big Cluster.  I think I'm the angriest at most disgusted at our SCOTUS.

I'm pissed at the state legislatures loaded up with RINOs that operate at cross-purposes with conservatism.  Like in AZ.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on December 19, 2020, 11:07:09 pm
I'm pissed at the state legislatures loaded up with RINOs that operate at cross-purposes with America conservatism.  Like in AZ.
  My below byline comes to mind here.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 19, 2020, 11:24:20 pm
  My below byline comes to mind here.

Your correction is acceptable.  happy77
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on December 22, 2020, 01:33:47 am
Maricopa County Board Goes To Court Over Legislative Subpoena (https://kjzz.org/content/1644542/maricopa-county-board-goes-court-over-legislative-subpoena)
Here's the audacity of this Board as spoken by its attorney:

“There is no legislative authority to audit election results,” he said. Nor is there authority to examine ballots or conduct forensic audits of election equipment, he said.

https://tucson.com/news/local/maricopa-county-supervisors-sue-rather-than-comply-with-senators-subpoenas-for-election-materials/article_d8182783-1452-5773-9da1-11d1edf9db4c.html

Can you comprehend that this board believes it and it alone is omnipotent when it comes to voting and no one can dare question it, including the very legislative body which put them there?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on December 22, 2020, 03:31:06 am
No controlling legal authority?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on December 24, 2020, 02:33:07 pm
Here's the audacity of this Board as spoken by its attorney:

“There is no legislative authority to audit election results,” he said. Nor is there authority to examine ballots or conduct forensic audits of election equipment, he said.

https://tucson.com/news/local/maricopa-county-supervisors-sue-rather-than-comply-with-senators-subpoenas-for-election-materials/article_d8182783-1452-5773-9da1-11d1edf9db4c.html (https://tucson.com/news/local/maricopa-county-supervisors-sue-rather-than-comply-with-senators-subpoenas-for-election-materials/article_d8182783-1452-5773-9da1-11d1edf9db4c.html)

Can you comprehend that this board believes it and it alone is omnipotent when it comes to voting and no one can dare question it, including the very legislative body which put them there?
Judge won't force Maricopa County to obey election subpoena

A judge in Phoenix on Wednesday rejected an effort by legislative Republicans to force the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors to comply with a sweeping subpoena demanding access to voting machines, copies of all mail ballots and other materials from the election that saw President-elect Joe Biden win Arizona’s 11 electoral votes.

Superior Court Judge Randall Warner said lawmakers did not follow the appropriate procedures to enforce a legislative subpoena, but he invited them to refile their case. However, the ruling is a setback to the effort by Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Eddie Farnsworth and Senate President Karen Fann to get access to materials in time to audit them and send a report to Congress before Electoral College votes are counted on Jan. 6.

The dispute is another chapter in efforts by President Donald Trump and his supporters to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the election in Arizona and several other states he lost. The GOP lawmakers say they want the county to turn over voting machines and records so the Legislature can audit Maricopa County’s handling of the election.


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/23/judge-wont-force-maricopa-county-obey-election-sub/ (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/23/judge-wont-force-maricopa-county-obey-election-sub/)

I wonder what they are hiding?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Bigun on December 24, 2020, 02:55:24 pm
"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it."

Frederic Bastiat

And we now know how correct he was!
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Bigun on January 28, 2021, 06:19:37 pm
Maricopa County Board Goes To Court Over Legislative Subpoena (https://kjzz.org/content/1644542/maricopa-county-board-goes-court-over-legislative-subpoena)

@Hoodat @Cyber Liberty

BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: The Same Clandestine Companies Involved in the Certification of Dominion Voting Systems and the 2020 Results in Georgia Were Chosen for the Upcoming Arizona ‘Audit (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/breaking-exclusive-companies-used-audit-elections-certify-2020-results-georgia-chosen-arizona-linked-dominion-voting-systems/)

Just thought you should know.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2021, 06:24:21 pm
@Hoodat @Cyber Liberty

BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: The Same Clandestine Companies Involved in the Certification of Dominion Voting Systems and the 2020 Results in Georgia Were Chosen for the Upcoming Arizona ‘Audit (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/breaking-exclusive-companies-used-audit-elections-certify-2020-results-georgia-chosen-arizona-linked-dominion-voting-systems/)

Just thought you should know.

I knew there was a freakin' dodge when the slimy Maricopa County Supervisors agreed to an audit!  9999hair out0000
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Bigun on January 28, 2021, 06:27:47 pm
I knew there was a freakin' dodge when the slimy Maricopa County Supervisors agreed to an audit!  9999hair out0000

I'm thinking that your state party chair ought to be raising unshirted hell over this @Cyber Liberty
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on January 28, 2021, 06:31:53 pm
I'm thinking that your state party chair ought to be raising unshirted hell over this @Cyber Liberty
They're trying to distract her with a challenge to her win Saturday.  The sore loser runner-up is demanding an audit of the vote, which is rich considering he stuffed the ballot box with a few hundred Proxies.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on March 12, 2021, 03:09:25 am
Ballots in Arizona County Found Shredded in Dumpster, Days Before Senate Audit
Discovery emerges in Maricopa County, Arizona

Jay Greenberg   |   7th March 2021 @ 4.00pm


(https://neonnettle.com/news/images/arizona-ballots-shredded-dumpster-days-before-audit-17321.jpg)

Thousands of paper ballots have been found shredded in a dumpster in Maricopa County, Arizona, according to reports.

The discovery has emerged just days before a Senate audit of the county's 2020 election results is due to begin.

UPDATE: The county elections department has responded to this report to confirm said it has a surveillance recording of a man (the same man who is pictured in this article) rummaging through a dumpster outside of its office and attempting to gain entry into its warehouse.However, the department says all voted ballots from the 2020 election are sealed in a locked indoor vault, awaiting shipment for an audit by the state Senate, that none are kept in the warehouse and none have been shredded.Maricopa County Elections Department spokeswoman Megan Gilbertson told PolitiFact that sample ballots and other miscellaneous election materials are kept in the warehouse and could have been in the warehouse dumpster, but not cast ballots.We have updated this article to reflect this new information.

For months, the Board of Supervisors in Maricopa County has been blocking and delaying any independent audit performed by the Arizona Senate of the County’s results in the 2020 presidential election.

The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors (MCBOS) eventually agreed to have an audit - but only if they could pick the auditors - after being subpoenaed by the Arizona Senate, and then suing the Senate to prevent a Senate audit of their 2020 election results.

https://neonnettle.com/news/14456-ballots-in-arizona-county-found-shredded-in-dumpster-days-before-senate-audit



Maricopa County is denying that ballots were shredded.  Yet shredded ballots have been found.  Someone is lying.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Texas Yellow Rose on March 12, 2021, 04:58:06 am
Quote
Maricopa County is denying that ballots were shredded.  Yet shredded ballots have been found.  Someone is lying.

Correct, someone is lying.  So where's the evidence???
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on March 12, 2021, 02:05:03 pm
Correct, someone is lying.  So where's the evidence???

Maricopa County will claim these were blank or duplicate ballots.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on May 07, 2021, 11:22:03 pm
Maricopa County cites 'security risk' in refusing to give subpoenaed router info to 2020 election audit team

Jeremy Beaman   |   May 06, 2021 07:45 PM


Officials in Maricopa County, Arizona, where a Republican-backed audit of the 2020 election is underway, said they cannot give the audit team access to county router information that was subpoenaed by the state Senate.

In a Monday letter sent to Ken Bennett, a former Republican secretary of state in Arizona who is serving as the Republican-led state Senate’s audit liaison, Deputy County Attorney Joseph La Rue said the county “cannot at this time provide the virtual images of routers” to be examined by auditors, citing “a significant security risk to law enforcement data utilized by the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office as well as numerous federal agencies.”

“We had previously believed that the risk would be eliminated by redacting the law enforcement data on the routers and not producing it,” La Rue said in the letter. “But we were informed that redaction did not eliminate the risk. We also learned that if criminal elements or others gained access to this data, it might compromise county and federal law enforcement efforts and put the lives of law enforcement personnel at risk.”  .  .  .

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/maricopa-county-routers-security-risk



These routers will show what IP addresses accessed the network during and after the election.  Democrats are blocking it.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on May 08, 2021, 12:10:47 am
Arizona secretary of state gets security detail over death threats surrounding election audit
By Tal Axelrod - 05/07/21 07:35 PM EDT

Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs (D) is receiving security protection from the Arizona Department of Public Safety after she received several death threats during a controversial election audit in Maricopa County.

Hobbs’s office confirmed to The Hill that she requested the protection Thursday “in light of recent death threats she has been receiving and after she was chased by a man she did not recognize yesterday.”

Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey’s (R) office also confirmed to The Hill that it had approved of the protection from the Department of Public Safety.

Hobbs has been a consistent critic of the election audit, which is being pushed by Republicans in the state Senate to call into questions the results from the 2020 presidential race in Arizona’s largest county, which went for President Biden. The company conducting the audit has minimal experience in election tallying, and its chief executive has expressed support for former President Trump.

more
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/552444-arizona-secretary-of-state-gets-security-detail-over-death-threats
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: rustynail on May 08, 2021, 12:13:58 am
It's getting discouraging how the democrats Always win.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 08, 2021, 12:18:05 am
Arizona secretary of state gets security detail over death threats surrounding election audit
By Tal Axelrod - 05/07/21 07:35 PM EDT


Gee!  How put upon is that poor Secretary of State!  It's not like she tried to insert a Rat Party operative into the Senate Audit by passing him off as a "journalist" or anything.

...oh, wait.......
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on May 08, 2021, 01:56:37 pm
Maricopa County Bombshell: Missing Passwords, Routers in Arizona Audit, Emergency Senate Session Called
https://trendingpolitics.com/maricopa-county-bombshell-missing-passwords-routers-in-arizona-audit-emergency-senate-session-called-knab/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on May 08, 2021, 04:55:23 pm
Cindy McCain blasts Arizona GOP for 2020 ballot audit
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/may/2/cindy-mccain-blasts-arizona-gop-2020-ballot-audit/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 08, 2021, 05:33:06 pm
Cindy McCain blasts Arizona GOP for 2020 ballot audit
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2021/may/2/cindy-mccain-blasts-arizona-gop-2020-ballot-audit/

I guess she really is pizzed about the Censure she got from the AZ GOP.  I was personally opposed to it, but it passed over my vote. :shrug:
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 08, 2021, 05:36:29 pm
Maricopa County Bombshell: Missing Passwords, Routers in Arizona Audit, Emergency Senate Session Called
https://trendingpolitics.com/maricopa-county-bombshell-missing-passwords-routers-in-arizona-audit-emergency-senate-session-called-knab/

Dominion refuses to comply with a new Senate subpoena for the password.  This is all about throwing sand in the gears.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on May 08, 2021, 05:48:08 pm
Dominion refuses to comply with a new Senate subpoena for the password.  This is all about throwing sand in the gears.

Is it Dominion or county officials?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 08, 2021, 05:50:18 pm
Is it Dominion or county officials?

Dominion.  The Maricopa County Supervisors have declared they don't have the password.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on May 08, 2021, 05:52:18 pm
Dominion.  The Maricopa County Supervisors have declared they don't have the password.

What about the routers? I'm confused about why they want to look at networking equipment. And how does handing over the routers put law enforcement, who isn't even in the same building, at risk?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 08, 2021, 05:57:22 pm
What about the routers? I'm confused about why they want to look at networking equipment. And how does handing over the routers put law enforcement, who isn't even in the same building, at risk?

Apparently the routers have logging data that can prove the Dominion machines talked to the internet. 
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on May 08, 2021, 06:00:37 pm
Apparently the routers have logging data that can prove the Dominion machines talked to the internet.

Ahhh, OK. So the Dems are counting on those logs rolling over and destroying the info, hence the stall tactics?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: skeeter on May 08, 2021, 06:50:03 pm
Ahhh, OK. So the Dems are counting on those logs rolling over and destroying the info, hence the stall tactics?
it’d be handy to have that info if you were, say, being sued for slander by Dominion.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on May 08, 2021, 07:03:34 pm
it’d be handy to have that info if you were, say, being sued for slander by Dominion.

Sure would.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on May 08, 2021, 07:59:50 pm
Dominion refuses to comply with a new Senate subpoena for the password.  This is all about throwing sand in the gears.

Read further.  The auditors reached an agreement with the Demcrat Party where signatures would not be checked.  THIS is why we lose.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on May 08, 2021, 08:53:29 pm
Read further.  The auditors reached an agreement with the Demcrat Party where signatures would not be checked.  THIS is why we lose.

@Hoodat
Check out the notice I posted below, from the firm, Cyber Ninjas, that is conducting the audit. They said that the signature comparison was never in the scope of the audit.

https://twitter.com/kelliwardaz/status/1390522575734796290/photo/1

(https://i.imgur.com/NrFWW0o.jpg)
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Bigun on May 09, 2021, 10:14:13 pm
HUGE: Citizens Group in Arizona Drops a MOAB – Sues State for 2018, 2019, and 2020 Elections That Were Not In Compliance with Arizona Law (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/huge-citizens-group-arizona-drops-moab-sues-state-2018-2019-2020-elections-not-compliance-arizona-law/)
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Elderberry on May 10, 2021, 01:38:24 am
Nah! They'll rule;  "None of you Peons Have Standing".
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on May 11, 2021, 05:15:22 pm
STUNNING TESTIMONY: AZ Elections Witness Testifies that Private Company Was Scanning Ballots Offsite, NOT Election Workers, Then Delivering Them to Counting Center
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/stunning-testimony-az-elections-witness-testifies-private-company-scanning-ballots-offsite-not-election-workers-delivering-counting-center/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 11, 2021, 06:06:21 pm
STUNNING TESTIMONY: AZ Elections Witness Testifies that Private Company Was Scanning Ballots Offsite, NOT Election Workers, Then Delivering Them to Counting Center
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/stunning-testimony-az-elections-witness-testifies-private-company-scanning-ballots-offsite-not-election-workers-delivering-counting-center/

Since it was testimony at a hearing and not in a Court of Law, none of what she says is truthful.  It's all Trump Cultist lies.  This is the argument that will be presented here by the resident Nevers.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on May 11, 2021, 06:10:32 pm
Quote
Disclose.tv
@disclosetv   · 2h

NOW - Dr. Fauci: "NIH has not ever and does not now fund gain of function research in the Wuhan institute"

Video Clip:    https://twitter.com/esaagar/status/1392161539369668616   

Fauci denies that NIH money went to fund the Wuhan lab, and then in the next sentence defends why NIH money went to fund the Wuhan lab.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 11, 2021, 06:17:46 pm
Emerald Robinson
@EmeraldRobinson


Democrats: Biden got 81 million votes fair and square!

Also Democrats: No, you cannot have the router passwords to complete an audit authorized by the state of Arizona!


7:24 PM · May 10, 2021·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1391897045930217479
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: skeeter on May 11, 2021, 06:18:32 pm
Since it was testimony at a hearing and not in a Court of Law, none of what she says is truthful.  It's all Trump Cultist lies.  This is the argument that will be presented here by the resident Nevers.
Lol. “No proof”, just one whole helluva lot of ‘unvetted gossip’.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 11, 2021, 06:24:34 pm
Fauci denies that NIH money went to fund the Wuhan lab, and then in the next sentence defends why NIH money went to fund the Wuhan lab.

@Hoodat I think this is on the wrong thread....
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on May 11, 2021, 06:50:47 pm
@Hoodat I think this is on the wrong thread....

How the heck did it get here?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: DB on May 11, 2021, 07:01:07 pm
Apparently the routers have logging data that can prove the Dominion machines talked to the internet.

More specifically where and when they communicated over the Internet.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 11, 2021, 07:30:43 pm
More specifically where and when they communicated over the Internet.
But but but  that's just a "conspiracy theory" (until the conspiracy is PROVEN).

And that's why they are panicked over the routers.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on May 11, 2021, 08:08:59 pm
But but but  that's just a "conspiracy theory" (until the conspiracy is PROVEN).

And that's why they are panicked over the routers.

Now every time I read the phrase, "conspiracy theory", I hear it in that funny voice that Dan Bongino does when he says it.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 11, 2021, 08:12:08 pm
Now every time I read the phrase, "conspiracy theory", I hear it in that funny voice that Dan Bongino does when he says it.
Sometimes, a "conspiracy theory" is just a conspiracy.

Seems that way a lot nowadays, and the pejorative aspect of the phrase is losing meaning. instead just a flag that something is worthy of investigation.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on May 11, 2021, 10:06:44 pm
Sometimes, a "conspiracy theory" is just a conspiracy.

Seems that way a lot nowadays, and the pejorative aspect of the phrase is losing meaning. instead just a flag that something is worthy of investigation.

Agreed. The left uses it as a tool to stifle discussion.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on May 13, 2021, 02:43:16 pm
BREAKING: Arizona’s Maricopa County Deleted Entire Databases Prior to Turning Over Equipment to Audit
https://clarion.causeaction.com/2021/05/13/breaking-arizonas-maricopa-county-deleted-entire-databases-prior-to-turning-over-equipment-to-audit/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on May 13, 2021, 03:13:38 pm
BREAKING: Arizona’s Maricopa County Deleted Entire Databases Prior to Turning Over Equipment to Audit
https://clarion.causeaction.com/2021/05/13/breaking-arizonas-maricopa-county-deleted-entire-databases-prior-to-turning-over-equipment-to-audit/

If people don't go to jail for this, we'll never regain control of our elections.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 13, 2021, 03:17:59 pm
If people don't go to jail for this, we'll never regain control of our elections.

This is Spoliation of Evidence.  The material was under Subpoena. 9999hair out0000
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: skeeter on May 13, 2021, 03:23:31 pm
BREAKING: Arizona’s Maricopa County Deleted Entire Databases Prior to Turning Over Equipment to Audit
https://clarion.causeaction.com/2021/05/13/breaking-arizonas-maricopa-county-deleted-entire-databases-prior-to-turning-over-equipment-to-audit/
...and we're supposed to believe Trump lost BIGLY.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 13, 2021, 03:25:01 pm
...and we're supposed to believe Trump lost BIGLY.

We're supposed to take their word that Trump lost bigly.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: skeeter on May 13, 2021, 03:32:07 pm
We're supposed to take their word that Trump lost bigly.
This situation is a perfect metaphor for the entire election theft - yeah, it stinks to high heaven but Biden apologists can continue to use the phrase 'unproven allegations'.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Sled Dog on May 13, 2021, 08:29:01 pm
From the Desk of Donald J Trump:

A devastating letter written by Arizona Senate President Karen Fann on voting irregularities, and probably fraud, in Maricopa County during the 2020 Presidential Election. Even the database was illegally deleted after the subpoena to produce the information. Senate President Fann has invited Maricopa County officials to a public hearing on May 18 to allow them the opportunity to try to explain what happened to the missing databases, ballots, and other significant issues. The Fake News and Lamestream Media is doing everything they can not to cover this major story. They just refuse to talk or report about it. They don’t want the United States or World to see what is going on with our corrupt, third world election. Read the full letter here: https://cdn.donaldjtrump.com/djtweb/general/5-12-21_Letter_to_Maricopa_County_Board.pdf
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Sled Dog on May 13, 2021, 08:33:45 pm
Now every time I read the phrase, "conspiracy theory", I hear it in that funny voice that Dan Bongino does when he says it.

Not all conspiracy theories are Russia! Russia! Russia!

Ones pointing out Rodent election fraud are almost always real events.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on May 14, 2021, 06:20:55 pm
Liberal Judge Rules In Favor Of AZ GOP: 2020 Election Audit Will Move Forward
https://conservativebrief.com/liberaljudgerules-40296/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Wingnut on May 14, 2021, 06:28:12 pm
Liberal Judge Rules In Favor Of AZ GOP: 2020 Election Audit Will Move Forward
https://conservativebrief.com/liberaljudgerules-40296/

Jusde expects an appeal.  Is AZ under the rule the 9th circus?
Title: Arizona Election Audit Finds Actual Documented Proof Of Election Fraud!
Post by: Matt Mundy on May 14, 2021, 06:29:32 pm
Arizona Election Audit Finds Actual Documented Proof Of Election Fraud!
https://www.thewhitehouseinsider.com/2021/05/arizona-election-audit-finds-actual.html



@Matt Mundy

Welcome to TBR.....not familiar with the site you linked
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: corbe on May 14, 2021, 07:05:12 pm
   Welcome to TBR @Matt Mundy 

   Most Briefers will not click on a blind link, give us a TEASER. at least. 
   If a site has a Robot thingee to get in, same rule applies.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 14, 2021, 07:33:15 pm
Jusde expects an appeal.  Is AZ under the rule the 9th circus?

Sadly, it is.
Title: Re: Arizona Election Audit Finds Actual Documented Proof Of Election Fraud!
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 14, 2021, 07:35:47 pm
Arizona Election Audit Finds Actual Documented Proof Of Election Fraud!
https://www.thewhitehouseinsider.com/2021/05/arizona-election-audit-finds-actual.html



@Matt Mundy

Welcome to TBR.....not familiar with the site you linked

That story contains falsehoods.  Real Arizona ballots do not contain watermarks.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on May 15, 2021, 01:02:28 am
This is Spoliation of Evidence.  The material was under Subpoena. 9999hair out0000

It is also proof of fraud.  They are turning over evidence that does not represent the factual account of what transpired.  By definition, that constitutes fraud.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on May 16, 2021, 06:57:36 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1Oqp82UYAQ1nf8?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on May 16, 2021, 06:59:19 pm
@roamer_1

Can you tell anything from this screenshot?  It looks like they tried to extend the partition in order to erase data.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1Oqp82UYAQ1nf8?format=jpg&name=900x900
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on May 16, 2021, 07:08:39 pm
Here's what Arizona law says:  A.R.S. § 16-445(A) (https://www.azleg.gov/ars/16/00445.htm)

16-445. Filing of computer election programs with secretary of state

A. For any state, county, school district, special district, city or town election, including primary elections, that uses vote tabulating devices as provided in this article, there shall be filed with the secretary of state at least seventeen days before the date of the election a copy of each computer program for each election.  The secretary of state shall hold all computer program software filed pursuant to this section in escrow for three years.  The secretary of state shall securely destroy the software filed pursuant to this section on the expiration of the three-year period.

B. A copy of any subsequent revision of the computer program shall be filed in the same manner within forty-eight hours following the revision.

C. Any tape or disc used in the programming or operation of a vote tabulating device on which votes are counted and any tape used in compiling vote totals shall be kept under lock and seal, and if there is a retally of votes, the officer entrusted with the tapes or discs shall submit the officer's affidavit stating that they are the tapes or discs, or both, used in the election and have not been altered.

D. All materials submitted to the secretary of state shall be used by the secretary of state or attorney general to preclude fraud or any unlawful act under the laws of this title and title 19 and shall not be disclosed or used for any other purpose.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: roamer_1 on May 16, 2021, 08:25:27 pm
@roamer_1

Can you tell anything from this screenshot?  It looks like they tried to extend the partition in order to erase data.


@Hoodat
Dunno what you're looking at there - It is one part, as displayed in the recovery software's tree panel.
It DOES show a lot of weight in the DB files - Which look like an extendable DB to me (joined allotted lengths). They may have filled the DB with junk before deleting, but there is weight in those deleted files. Were they zeroed you would not even be getting file names, not to mention weight.

Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: roamer_1 on May 16, 2021, 09:21:21 pm
@roamer_1

Can you tell anything from this screenshot?  It looks like they tried to extend the partition in order to erase data.


@Hoodat

Oh wait, I get it... You are looking at the part errors in the bottom window. Looks more to me like someone deleted the part and the recovery software rebuilt it with errors... Easy enough to alter the partition info to extend beyond the recovery target area, providing the drive you raw-imaged to can take it.

To answer your question, no, messing with part size does not mess with the data - It just defines the 'window' dimensions on the drive. the data that was in theory blown on there prior to the adjustment would be relatively pristine, providing nothing was overwritten. 

If you have ever had to rewrite partition parameters, you'll note that your data all comes back once the partition is redefined properly - This is the same thing.

If somebody real was trying to kill data on that drive you know that would be a gvt wipe - Heck, zeroing out the drive would likely wreck it enough that data would not be meaningfully recovered... So likely, some political dork thought they were deleting the evidence by killing the part, or deleting everything on the part.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 16, 2021, 09:35:47 pm
@Hoodat

Oh wait, I get it... You are looking at the part errors in the bottom window. Looks more to me like someone deleted the part and the recovery software rebuilt it with errors... Easy enough to alter the partition info to extend beyond the recovery target area, providing the drive you raw-imaged to can take it.

To answer your question, no, messing with part size does not mess with the data - It just defines the 'window' dimensions on the drive. the data that was in theory blown on there prior to the adjustment would be relatively pristine, providing nothing was overwritten. 

If you have ever had to rewrite partition parameters, you'll note that your data all comes back once the partition is redefined properly - This is the same thing.

If somebody real was trying to kill data on that drive you know that would be a gvt wipe - Heck, zeroing out the drive would likely wreck it enough that data would not be meaningfully recovered... So likely, some political dork thought they were deleting the evidence by killing the part, or deleting everything on the part.

I wonder if a Warrant would be required to apply the repair tools?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: roamer_1 on May 16, 2021, 09:48:22 pm
I wonder if a Warrant would be required to apply the repair tools?

That was probably recovered under a warrant or some other court ordered device already.

The way that normally goes, Chain of Custody applies, and the original drive will be left pristine. When I do that kind of work, I have to go down to the county sheriff, and operate under the direct supervision of the sheriff dept, normally somebody from their IT department babysits me as I create a raw image... Then I get a copy of that raw image onto one of my drives and take it home to do my basement geek stuff. All documented and repeatable using the original image that never left the chain of custody, so if anyone would care to object to what I found, they can get a copy of the original image and knock themselves out.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on May 16, 2021, 09:57:15 pm
I wonder if a Warrant would be required to apply the repair tools?

I would think step 1 would be to make a sector level back-up of the drive. Would they need a warrant to do that or to apply recovery tools to the backup?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: roamer_1 on May 16, 2021, 10:01:01 pm
I would think step 1 would be to make a sector level back-up of the drive. Would they need a warrant to do that or to apply recovery tools to the backup?

That backup, or raw image stays pristine and in the chain of custody. A COPY of that raw image is what I take home, and I can do as I please with that to perform a recovery - since it is an exact copy of the original drive, I can mess with partition sizes and such all I want. Just like it was the original drive.

 
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on May 16, 2021, 10:10:54 pm
That backup, or raw image stays pristine and in the chain of custody. A COPY of that raw image is what I take home, and I can do as I please with that to perform a recovery - since it is an exact copy of the original drive, I can mess with partition sizes and such all I want. Just like it was the original drive.

Isn't that just what I said in my post?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: roamer_1 on May 16, 2021, 10:23:19 pm
Isn't that just what I said in my post?

Sorta. The warrant (or court order of some sort) requires CoC... So the original drive is accessed once to make the image, then the image is preserved in CoC ...

So the repair is not done on the original drive or the original image, but actually on a copy thereof (which is not CoC). Your question implied working on the original image, which is not done.

I merely clarified.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on May 16, 2021, 10:29:46 pm
Sorta. The warrant (or court order of some sort) requires CoC... So the original drive is accessed once to make the image, then the image is preserved in CoC ...

So the repair is not done on the original drive or the original image, but actually on a copy thereof (which is not CoC). Your question implied working on the original image, which is not done.

I merely clarified.  :shrug:

I said "make a sector by sector backup of the original drive" and then asked about needing a warrant to work on that. That's the exact same thing.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: roamer_1 on May 16, 2021, 10:36:04 pm
I said "make a sector by sector backup of the original drive" and then asked about needing a warrant to work on that. That's the exact same thing.

Well, a backup of the backup would be what is worked upon, which was my point. And no, the one worked upon does not require a warrant, but does require sufficient logging so that the steps can be repeated if necessary.

Not meaning to pick nits.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on May 16, 2021, 10:50:37 pm
Well, a backup of the backup would be what is worked upon, which was my point. And no, the one worked upon does not require a warrant, but does require sufficient logging so that the steps can be repeated if necessary.

Not meaning to pick nits.

Ok, so you're just saying the SoS drive, or whoever has ownership of the drive, would be the  ones making the backup so that the team doing the audit never actually touches the original drive. Doesn't that open up for the possibility of undetectable tampering?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: roamer_1 on May 16, 2021, 11:12:55 pm
Ok, so you're just saying the SoS drive, or whoever has ownership of the drive, would be the  ones making the backup so that the team doing the audit never actually touches the original drive. Doesn't that open up for the possibility of undetectable tampering?

No, the CoC would be maintained by a state or local entity of the court (I would imagine). The contracted work (Me) is like any other professional consultation wrt evidence, since the logging has to be repeatable, or it is going to fail as evidence - Normally speaking, and I hasten to add I have never been involved in a recovery for an election, but normally as a criminal matter, the recovery is such that what it reveals cannot be contested. I have never had the defense so much as cross-examine me. My affidavit is all I ever have to do.

It is really funny how few people actually know that when you delete something it ain't really gone. That is normally the big surprise.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on May 17, 2021, 12:30:26 am
No, the CoC would be maintained by a state or local entity of the court (I would imagine). The contracted work (Me) is like any other professional consultation wrt evidence, since the logging has to be repeatable, or it is going to fail as evidence - Normally speaking, and I hasten to add I have never been involved in a recovery for an election, but normally as a criminal matter, the recovery is such that what it reveals cannot be contested. I have never had the defense so much as cross-examine me. My affidavit is all I ever have to do.

It is really funny how few people actually know that when you delete something it ain't really gone. That is normally the big surprise.

Ok, thanks for explaining this.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 17, 2021, 01:01:03 am
They won't even give up the GD router images, so we'd better be prepared for frivolous demands for Warrants.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: corbe on May 18, 2021, 05:05:15 pm
https://twitter.com/BarnettforAZ/status/1394412554152136710 (https://twitter.com/BarnettforAZ/status/1394412554152136710)
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: DB on May 19, 2021, 02:49:44 pm
They won't even give up the GD router images, so we'd better be prepared for frivolous demands for Warrants.

I would think that the actual logs for the routers are unencrypted. I doubt it requires passwords to access them if that is the case (if one has access to the physical hard drives).
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 19, 2021, 02:56:05 pm
I would think that the actual logs for the routers are unencrypted. I doubt it requires passwords to access them if that is the case (if one has access to the physical hard drives).

And that's why Maricopa won't let the auditors so much as look at them. 
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on May 19, 2021, 04:01:02 pm
And that's why Maricopa won't let the auditors so much as look at them.

I would be issuing some arrest warrants for accessory to fraud and conspiracy to commit fraud.  Maybe some time in county lockup will encourage their cooperation.

(https://cdn.mcstatic.com/contents/videos_screenshots/6253000/6253742/preview.jpg)
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on May 19, 2021, 05:22:41 pm
Serial numbers missing between original, duplicate ballots in Arizona election audit: official

"We are struggling as to how we're going to be able to match up" ballots that couldn't be read by machines, Ken Bennett says.

Greg Piper   |   May 19, 2021 - 10:19am

he Arizona Senate's audit of Maricopa County's general election has hit a new snag: verifying whether some ballots may have been counted twice.

The liaison between Senate Republicans who authorized the audit and county officials told a hearing Tuesday that serial numbers were missing on damaged ballots that were duplicated so they could be read by vote tabulation machines.

Former Secretary of State Ken Bennett's team uncovered the error just a few days ago, he told Senate President Karen Fann and Judicial Committee Chair Warren Petersen. Each damaged ballot and its associated duplicate ballot are supposed to have the same serial number to ensure they are only counted once.

But he has found many batches of damaged ballots without the serial numbers that are on the duplicates, violating state law. "We are struggling as to how we're going to be able to match up" those damaged and duplicated ballots, Bennett said.

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/serial-numbers-missing-between-original-duplicate-ballots-arizona
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 19, 2021, 05:34:45 pm
Death by a thousand frauds.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: jafo2010 on May 20, 2021, 02:06:08 am
Any tabulation center that restricted observers, all those votes should be voided.  It happened in many places, particularly Pennsylvania.  Voter corruption in Philly and Pittsburgh is taken for granted, no one even thinks to raise a stink.  Pittsburgh is approaching 100 years with Dems only mayors.  Heck, Republicans virtually never even run a candidate the election is so fixed!!!!!!

As long as electronic voting exists, the Dems ahve a vehicle to fix the election.  I say end electronic voting if corruption is all that comes with it!!!

You have to be stupid to think like the Dems with all the video of the overt cheating!!!
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Victoria33 on May 21, 2021, 02:23:51 am
@Hoodat
@Cyber Liberty
"But he has found many batches of damaged ballots without the serial numbers that are on the duplicates, violating state law. "We are struggling as to how we're going to be able to match up" those damaged and duplicated ballots, Bennett said."
_____________________
Whoever wrote that does not know how a damaged ballot is duplicated.
First there are no ballots with the same serial number.
In the counting station, there is a committee, usually named "Verification Committee" or "Board", that deals with machine rejected ballots or ballots that are torn and cannot be put through the machine.

There is a Democrat and Republican working with one ballot.  They determine why the ballet was rejected and try to "fix it".  Such as, a person marked two names for the same position or marked the names in a way the machine cannot count it or names like Mickey Mouse were written in.  If they can tell who the voter wanted to vote for but the ballot is so messed up with marks so the machine cannot count it, they duplicate the ballot.  One marks the ballot with the other person watching.

I was the Judge of that committee.  Once the two people have made the duplicate ballot, they gave both to me.  I was required to write the new ballot number on the back of the old ballot and sign my name.  On the new ballot, I had to write on the back the number of the old ballot and sign my name.  I then clipped the two ballots together and off they went to the counting station.  Once there, the two ballots were separated with the old ballot going into a stack for old ballots.  The old ballots with the new ballot numbers on them were placed in a metal box and locked up and put in the secure room with the rest of ballot materials.

Cyber my friend, I still want to be in charge of U.S. Elections with you and @roamer_1, and @libertybele being my assistants.  Cyber, you can keep us furnished with coffee during the day, and beer/wine when we finish at night.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: libertybele on May 21, 2021, 02:32:18 am
@Hoodat
@Cyber Liberty
"But he has found many batches of damaged ballots without the serial numbers that are on the duplicates, violating state law. "We are struggling as to how we're going to be able to match up" those damaged and duplicated ballots, Bennett said."
_____________________
Whoever wrote that does not know how a damaged ballot is duplicated.
First there are no ballots with the same serial number.
In the counting station, there is a committee, usually named "Verification Committee" or "Board", that deals with machine rejected ballots or ballots that are torn and cannot be put through the machine.

There is a Democrat and Republican working with one ballot.  They determine why the ballet was rejected and try to "fix it".  Such as, a person marked two names for the same position or marked the names in a way the machine cannot count it or names like Mickey Mouse were written in.  If they can tell who the voter wanted to vote for but the ballot is so messed up with marks so the machine cannot count it, they duplicate the ballot.  One marks the ballot with the other person watching.

I was the Judge of that committee.  Once the two people have made the duplicate ballot, they gave both to me.  I was required to write the new ballot number on the back of the old ballot and sign my name.  On the new ballot, I had to write on the back the number of the old ballot and sign my name.  I then clipped the two ballots together and off they went to the counting station.  Once there, the two ballots were separated with the old ballot going into a stack for old ballots.  The old ballots with the new ballot numbers on them were placed in a metal box and locked up and put in the secure room with the rest of ballot materials.

Cyber my friend, I still want to be in charge of U.S. Elections with you and @roamer_1, and @libertybele being my assistants.  Cyber, you can keep us furnished with coffee during the day, and beer/wine when we finish at night.

Sounds great to me!
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: roamer_1 on May 21, 2021, 02:51:04 am
Cyber my friend, I still want to be in charge of U.S. Elections with you and @roamer_1, and @libertybele being my assistants.  Cyber, you can keep us furnished with coffee during the day, and beer/wine when we finish at night.

Nope. I might yet come down out of these mountains for a bit, though I can't really think of a reason to right now... But it sho nuff would not be anywhere near where presiding over US elections would be taking place... Sorry, none for me thanks.  happy77
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Victoria33 on May 21, 2021, 03:22:54 am
Nope. I might yet come down out of these mountains for a bit, though I can't really think of a reason to right now... But it sho nuff would not be anywhere near where presiding over US elections would be taking place... Sorry, none for me thanks.  happy77
@roamer_1

I thought you would say that. 44444heart
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on May 21, 2021, 02:01:26 pm
Arizona SOS Hobbs Says Election Machines in Audit Should Never Be Used Again
https://conservativebrief.com/arizona-sos-hobbs-says-40824/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 21, 2021, 04:03:39 pm
Arizona SOS Hobbs Says Election Machines in Audit Should Never Be Used Again
https://conservativebrief.com/arizona-sos-hobbs-says-40824/

For once I agree with Hobbs.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Smokin Joe on May 21, 2021, 04:56:30 pm
For once I agree with Hobbs.
Yep. Not anywhere.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on May 21, 2021, 05:18:27 pm
@Hoodat
@Cyber Liberty
"But he has found many batches of damaged ballots without the serial numbers that are on the duplicates, violating state law. "We are struggling as to how we're going to be able to match up" those damaged and duplicated ballots, Bennett said."
_____________________
Whoever wrote that does not know how a damaged ballot is duplicated.
First there are no ballots with the same serial number.

Let me stop you right there.  If a ballot is fed through a machine more than once, then you end up with two or more counted ballots having the same serial number.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 21, 2021, 05:25:24 pm
Let me stop you right there.  If a ballot is fed through a machine more than once, then you end up with two or more counted ballots having the same serial number.

That's not the procedure in AZ anyway.   :shrug:
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on May 21, 2021, 05:28:13 pm
is there an end date for this audit? I’m wanting some conclusions.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on May 21, 2021, 05:28:48 pm
That's not the procedure in AZ anyway.   :shrug:

Not in Georgia either.  But it happened.  And the Dominion software allows it in both States.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 21, 2021, 05:43:17 pm
is there an end date for this audit? I’m wanting some conclusions.

No, there is no "date certain." 
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on May 21, 2021, 06:37:33 pm
No, there is no "date certain."

Ok, thanks. I worry the longer it drags out, the less impact the results will have.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 21, 2021, 06:41:19 pm
Ok, thanks. I worry the longer it drags out, the less impact the results will have.

The stated goal of Ken Bennett is "Accuracy and completeness, not speed."  This time is playing favorably, as the Rats get more and more desperate to stop the Audit.  By the time this gets released (late June, early July) the howler monkeys will have picked all the bugs off their partners' backs.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on May 21, 2021, 07:01:45 pm
The stated goal of Ken Bennett is "Accuracy and completeness, not speed."  This time is playing favorably, as the Rats get more and more desperate to stop the Audit.  By the time this gets released (late June, early July) the howler monkeys will have picked all the bugs off their partners' backs.

Well, as General Patton once said, a good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 21, 2021, 07:05:33 pm
Well, as General Patton once said, a good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week.

I understand that, and I also understand the trouble that's been caused by people like Lyn Wood and Sidney Powell in toying with the expectations.  Hurrying didn't work, so let's give slow and steady a chance. 
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on May 21, 2021, 07:08:20 pm
I understand that, and I also understand the trouble that's been caused by people like Lyn Wood and Sidney Powell in toying with the expectations.  Hurrying didn't work, so let's give slow and steady a chance.

Yes, agree 100%. I like that they haven't been leaking and that they aren't hyping it. I wish the name of the firm was a bit more professional than "Cyber Ninjas", but I guess you can't have everything.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 21, 2021, 07:13:37 pm
Yes, agree 100%. I like that they haven't been leaking and that they aren't hyping it. I wish the name of the firm was a bit more professional than "Cyber Ninjas", but I guess you can't have everything.

I like to think hiring "Cyber Ninjas" is Kelli's way of rubbing their noses in it. yogi555
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on May 21, 2021, 07:14:36 pm
I like to think hiring "Cyber Ninjas" is Kelli's way of rubbing their noses in it. yogi555

Maybe so, but everytime I see some liberal twit laughing at that on Twitter, I get agita.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 21, 2021, 07:21:12 pm
Maybe so, but everytime I see some liberal twit laughing at that on Twitter, I get agita.

I understand that, but these are the morons who openly mocked us since 2008.  I no longer get pissed at that.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on May 21, 2021, 07:24:14 pm
I understand that, but these are the morons who openly mocked us since 2008.  I no longer get pissed at that.

Wouldn't it put a smile on your face if this reverses the AZ Senate results? The liberal tears would be delicious.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 21, 2021, 08:31:08 pm
Wouldn't it put a smile on your face if this reverses the AZ Senate results? The liberal tears would be delicious.

If by that you mean McSally, it would. But I don't know if they are looking at races other than POTUS.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on May 22, 2021, 04:07:33 pm
Stacey Abrams, who still has not conceded her election loss to Brian Kemp in 2018, lectures the rest of us on accepting Biden's win in 2020:

  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BB_MkPMQXI)


This is the type of rhetoric where you start looking for lightning coming from the sky.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on May 22, 2021, 04:54:30 pm
Stacey Abrams, who still has not conceded her election loss to Brian Kemp in 2018, lectures the rest of us on accepting Biden's win in 2020:

  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BB_MkPMQXI)


This is the type of rhetoric where you start looking for lightning coming from the sky.

All the Dem talking points neatly summarized in the first 30 seconds of speech from the election sow.

By what criteria does she brand this election as the "fairest and most secure"? If we had actual press, that would have been the immediate follow-up question.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Kamaji on May 24, 2021, 03:48:44 pm
I understand that, and I also understand the trouble that's been caused by people like Lyn Wood and Sidney Powell in toying with the expectations.  Hurrying didn't work, so let's give slow and steady a chance. 

Agreed.  Sometimes, slow and stead wins the race.  Since this won't be used to overturn the 2020 election results (at least the Presidential election), it matters more that there is irrefutable evidence of fraud, evidence that can then be used to support what will be a serious uphill battle to get meaningful vote protections into place.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on May 24, 2021, 03:50:52 pm
(Cross posting a few tweets from the related thread)

https://twitter.com/epochtimes/status/1396838401022779393?s=21
https://twitter.com/bosnerdley/status/1396839109033930756?s=21
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: HoustonSam on May 26, 2021, 11:40:13 am
@Cyber Liberty I'm seeing a couple of YouTube commentators report this AM that the AZ Legislature has stripped the D SoS of some of her duties through the end of 2023.

The commentators are not people I've followed; I have no idea whether they are actually credible.  Can you provide any insight?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on May 26, 2021, 12:22:23 pm
Audits prioritize accuracy, compliance, documentation, corroboration, and verification over deadlines.

A quick audit would be very suspicious.

The longer this takes, the greater the need for an audit spokesperson to manage the media narrative to take the media initiative away from lamestream liberal pundits.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: thackney on May 26, 2021, 12:24:37 pm
@Cyber Liberty I'm seeing a couple of YouTube commentators report this AM that the AZ Legislature has stripped the D SoS of some of her duties through the end of 2023.

The commentators are not people I've followed; I have no idea whether they are actually credible.  Can you provide any insight?

Arizona's Secretary of State 'stripped' of duties after criticizing election audit
https://news.yahoo.com/arizonas-secretary-state-stripped-duties-212020423.html

- - - - - - - - - -

In complaint, secretary of state says Attorney General's Office violated legal ethics rules
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/legislature/2021/05/25/secretary-state-katie-hobbs-filed-bar-complaint-against-attorney-general/7439576002/?gnt-cfr=1

A proposal by Republican lawmakers to prohibit the Attorney General’s Office from advising Secretary of State Katie Hobbs and ban her from hiring outside lawyers comes months after Hobbs filed a complaint about the legal representation provided by several members of the attorney general's staff.

Hobbs charged that the Attorney General’s Office violated ethics rules in several cases, such as by advising her office in a lawsuit and later intervening on the opposite side.

"In several election lawsuits, the AG's Office has represented the SOS, received confidential attorney-client communications, provided advice, filed papers on behalf of the SOS, and then withdrawn from representation and appeared in the same litigation on behalf of a different party asserting a position materially adverse to the SOS," Hobbs wrote in a complaint to the state bar she filed Oct. 1, with a request it be kept confidential....

Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: HoustonSam on May 26, 2021, 12:28:15 pm
Arizona's Secretary of State 'stripped' of duties after criticizing election audit
https://news.yahoo.com/arizonas-secretary-state-stripped-duties-212020423.html

Thanks @thackney; I should have done that easy bit of follow-up research myself.  Still interested in CL's thoughts.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: thackney on May 26, 2021, 12:29:51 pm
Thanks @thackney; I should have done that easy bit of follow-up research myself.  Still interested in CL's thoughts.

I added some more info to the post while you were replying.  More going on in that...
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Wingnut on May 26, 2021, 12:54:32 pm
Thanks @thackney; I should have done that easy bit of follow-up research myself.  Still interested in CL's thoughts.

Fat Stacey Abrams sent Katie Hobbs a "Fruit Basket".  Now that is funny right there on several levels!
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 26, 2021, 01:29:02 pm
Thanks @thackney; I should have done that easy bit of follow-up research myself.  Still interested in CL's thoughts.

I'm glad the legislature did this.  It will make it more difficult for her to pull the shenanigans of 2020 next election.  She's still pulling them during this audit, sending spies into the audit posing as "journalists," in addition to her official representatives there.  Her wings were begging to be clipped.

The fly in the ointment is AG Brnovich behaved almost as badly during the legal actions following the election.  He and the Governor are both on my sh*tlist.  The crap will continue until after the Audit is completed.

The Yahoo article above is extremely biased, coming as it does from AZFamily, which is a TeeVee broadcast outlet in Phoenix.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: skeeter on May 26, 2021, 01:32:54 pm
Fat Stacey Abrams sent Katie Hobbs a "Fruit Basket".  Now that is funny right there on several levels!
I can't imagine Stacey going anywhere near a piece of fruit. Are you sure she didn't send her a chocolate mayonnaise cake?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on May 26, 2021, 01:33:56 pm
I added some more info to the post while you were replying.  More going on in that...

Unfortunately the leftist AZCentral article is behind a pay wall.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Wingnut on May 26, 2021, 02:10:49 pm
I can't imagine Stacey going anywhere near a piece of fruit. Are you sure she didn't send her a chocolate mayonnaise cake?

Is Watermelon a fruit?  Seed spitting season is upon us,,,,,
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on May 26, 2021, 02:23:39 pm
I can't imagine Stacey going anywhere near a piece of fruit. Are you sure she didn't send her a chocolate mayonnaise cake?

It's a garnish.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: jafo2010 on May 26, 2021, 05:31:21 pm
Conservatives should NOT get expectations high on this audit.  I do not expect great things from this.  No more than I expect anything from Durham's investigation.  All Kobucki Theater.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on May 31, 2021, 01:57:56 pm
AZ Secretary of State Katie Hobbs is Out of Control on Ballot Audit

Rachel Alexander   |   May 31, 2021 12:01 AM


ome areas of the country haven’t given up on investigating voter fraud during the presidential election, including Arizona and Georgia. But it’s not easy, because the left is going all out to stop them. Here in Arizona, the main opposition is coming from the Arizona Secretary of State, far left Katie Hobbs. This woman is frightening. She is trying to make a name for herself since she wants to run for governor in 2022.

The Arizona Senate ordered an audit of Maricopa County ballots earlier this year, taking possession of 2.1 million ballots and nearly 400 election machines and turning them over to be audited by cyber firms. It just doesn’t seem very plausible that Joe Biden won in Maricopa County, considering it’s a Republican stronghold (the words of CBS) with more registered Republicans than Democrats, and considering how well Republicans performed in other races here. As of February, there were just over 909,658 registered Republicans to 814,101 Democrats, a striking difference. 

In the Maricopa County Treasurer’s race, which featured two non-incumbents, the Republican handily beat the Democrat 46.65% to 42.46%. The Maricopa County Recorder, an incumbent Democrat who oversees Maricopa County Elections, lost to a Republican. In contrast, Biden supposedly beat Trump in the county by about two points.  .  .  .

https://townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2021/05/31/az-secretary-of-state-katie-hobbs-is-out-of-control-on-ballot-audit-n2590243
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on May 31, 2021, 01:59:47 pm
Arizona audit - Live cameras:  https://azaudit.org/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on June 15, 2021, 11:53:28 am
Audit Organizer Says Hundreds of Thousands of Ballots MISSING In Arizona, Boxes Full of Blank Ballots

PATRICK HOWLEY   |   June 14, 2021


Several hundred thousand votes that were counted in Maricopa County, Arizona are associated with missing ballots, according to an audit organizer who is speaking regularly with people on the audit floor.

“We found a ballot shortage, anywhere from 5 to 10 percent of the votes,” Josh Barnett, an audit organizer who led the affidavit drive to make the audit happen, tells NATIONAL FILE. “It looks like a couple hundred thousand ballots are unaccounted for. The ballots are missing.”

“I also know that there were boxes filled with blank ballots in those pallets. There were blanks in there,” Barnett said, citing a person who is frequently at the audit site as part of the audit process. “They (election officials) were doing it for appearance, to try to hide the fact that ballots are missing by saying, ‘It’s okay, they’re all right here.’ But the ballots are blank.”

https://nationalfile.com/audit-organizer-says-hundreds-of-thousands-of-ballots-missing-in-arizona-boxes-full-of-blank-ballots/



If this proves to be the case, then the results of the audit will be considerably off from the official results reported last year.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on June 15, 2021, 01:11:08 pm
Audit Organizer Says Hundreds of Thousands of Ballots MISSING In Arizona, Boxes Full of Blank Ballots

PATRICK HOWLEY   |   June 14, 2021


Several hundred thousand votes that were counted in Maricopa County, Arizona are associated with missing ballots, according to an audit organizer who is speaking regularly with people on the audit floor.

“We found a ballot shortage, anywhere from 5 to 10 percent of the votes,” Josh Barnett, an audit organizer who led the affidavit drive to make the audit happen, tells NATIONAL FILE. “It looks like a couple hundred thousand ballots are unaccounted for. The ballots are missing.”

“I also know that there were boxes filled with blank ballots in those pallets. There were blanks in there,” Barnett said, citing a person who is frequently at the audit site as part of the audit process. “They (election officials) were doing it for appearance, to try to hide the fact that ballots are missing by saying, ‘It’s okay, they’re all right here.’ But the ballots are blank.”

https://nationalfile.com/audit-organizer-says-hundreds-of-thousands-of-ballots-missing-in-arizona-boxes-full-of-blank-ballots/



If this proves to be the case, then the results of the audit will be considerably off from the official results reported last year.

What this makes me think is the Dems decided it was better to destroy the counterfeit ballots than to let them be discovered by the audit. I bet they destroyed an equal number of legitimate ballots that were votes for Trump, so the totals will still reflect a Biden "win" but will be an overall lower vote total.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Victoria33 on June 15, 2021, 01:23:31 pm
@Cyber Liberty

Heard yesterday, some people working on the audit said they did not know what to do, no one trained them to do that.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: roamer_1 on June 15, 2021, 01:38:38 pm
What this makes me think is the Dems decided it was better to destroy the counterfeit ballots than to let them be discovered by the audit. I bet they destroyed an equal number of legitimate ballots that were votes for Trump, so the totals will still reflect a Biden "win" but will be an overall lower vote total.

If it is an electronic fraud, there would be more count than ballots.  :pondering:
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 15, 2021, 02:05:51 pm
@Cyber Liberty

Heard yesterday, some people working on the audit said they did not know what to do, no one trained them to do that.

The leftist media talking point is "Cyber Ninjas have no experience in auditing elections," but the fact is, nobody has experience on forensic audits of elections.  What you heard sounds like it's straight from Fredo Cuomo's mouth.  I'll ignore that.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on June 15, 2021, 02:50:19 pm
If it is an electronic fraud, there would be more count than ballots.  :pondering:

And therein lies the problem. I don't think we will ever know exactly what happended. I mean we will all suspect fraud, but proving it is damn near impossible because it's just too easy for the Dems to obfuscate. What we need are rules such as: if there is no chain of custody on a batch of ballots, all ballots in that batch will be discarded. But the Dems and the media will call this voter suppression.

We really need a deep mole in the Dem org to provide video and audio of them planning the fraud. A Project Veritas style operation. I'd also like to see mandatory death penalty for election fraud.

But I think the core problem is that we've turned into an amoral society with a significant percentage of the population that believes it's OK to cheat to win. It is as I have said earlier in the thread. We can't coexist with these people. It's not possible to pass laws that will solve the problem of a fundamentally amoral populace. They will always find a way to cheat. We need a national divorce and restoration to a federalist system.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: roamer_1 on June 15, 2021, 03:37:19 pm
And therein lies the problem. I don't think we will ever know exactly what happended. I mean we will all suspect fraud, but proving it is damn near impossible because it's just too easy for the Dems to obfuscate. What we need are rules such as: if there is no chain of custody on a batch of ballots, all ballots in that batch will be discarded. But the Dems and the media will call this voter suppression.

We really need a deep mole in the Dem org to provide video and audio of them planning the fraud. A Project Veritas style operation. I'd also like to see mandatory death penalty for election fraud.

But I think the core problem is that we've turned into an amoral society with a significant percentage of the population that believes it's OK to cheat to win. It is as I have said earlier in the thread. We can't coexist with these people. It's not possible to pass laws that will solve the problem of a fundamentally amoral populace. They will always find a way to cheat. We need a national divorce and restoration to a federalist system.

I agree with pretty near all of that.  :beer:

I am not as jaded as I seem though. I DO believe folks are generally fair minded... I have seen interviews with libs (Louder with Crowder Change my Mind for instance) where the rank and file suppose their side is fair and does not cheat.

There are two propagandae at work, convincing their acolytes of the evil promoted by the 'other side'... Which is why I often caution against the rumor mill on the right as much as on the left. And it is why, by the way, the only touchstone available to the Right are the Principles of Conservatism - There is no meaningful (veritable) truth otherwise that can be trusted...

I think the cheat will have more impact than most assume, and regardless of Dem obfuscation, tallies are tallies... Numbers mean things. Providing that the audit left itself auditable, that can be a powerful weapon against the cheaters.

Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: HoustonSam on June 15, 2021, 03:51:51 pm
I think the cheat will have more impact than most assume, and regardless of Dem obfuscation, tallies are tallies... Numbers mean things. Providing that the audit left itself auditable, that can be a powerful weapon against the cheaters.

I doubt that any audit will turn up airtight proof of cheating on a scale to tip the most recent election.  I think it's highly likely audits will demonstrate that chain of custody issues, specific vote counting procedures, mismatches between the number of votes reported and the number of votes surrendered for auditing, etc, will demonstrate to voters that this election did not deliver a trustworthy result.

And that should motivate voters and their elected state legislators to tighten procedures considerably.  It will never be perfect but it can be a damn site better than it is.

But I'm also fundamentally with @BassWrangler; we cannot procedurally improve our way out of a problem caused by bad intentions on the other side, and I fully believe the other side *is* bad intentioned.  We might be able to better protect elections from those bad intentions, but the bad intentions remain and will lead to other instances of cheating, lying, and reducing the country to chaos in the pursuit of power.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on June 15, 2021, 03:58:41 pm
Many good points @HoustonSam , @roamer_1 .

Interesting times to live in.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Bigun on June 15, 2021, 04:02:33 pm
I doubt that any audit will turn up airtight proof of cheating on a scale to tip the most recent election.  I think it's highly likely audits will demonstrate that chain of custody issues, specific vote counting procedures, mismatches between the number of votes reported and the number of votes surrendered for auditing, etc, will demonstrate to voters that this election did not deliver a trustworthy result.

And that should motivate voters and their elected state legislators to tighten procedures considerably.  It will never be perfect but it can be a damn site better than it is.

But I'm also fundamentally with @BassWrangler; we cannot procedurally improve our way out of a problem caused by bad intentions on the other side, and I fully believe the other side *is* bad intentioned.  We might be able to better protect elections from those bad intentions, but the bad intentions remain and will lead to other instances of cheating, lying, and reducing the country to chaos in the pursuit of power.

(https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fthefederalistpapers.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F03%2FJA-ConstitutionMoral.jpg&f=1&nofb=1)
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: roamer_1 on June 15, 2021, 04:05:23 pm
I doubt that any audit will turn up airtight proof of cheating on a scale to tip the most recent election.  I think it's highly likely audits will demonstrate that chain of custody issues, specific vote counting procedures, mismatches between the number of votes reported and the number of votes surrendered for auditing, etc, will demonstrate to voters that this election did not deliver a trustworthy result.

And that should motivate voters and their elected state legislators to tighten procedures considerably.  It will never be perfect but it can be a damn site better than it is.

That is a likely assessment @HoustonSam . But AZ is playing this hand close to the chest, Which in the parlance, either means it is a bluff and it will fizzle out in the end, or it is a money hand. There is some hope in that.

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But I'm also fundamentally with @BassWrangler; we cannot procedurally improve our way out of a problem caused by bad intentions on the other side, and I fully believe the other side *is* bad intentioned.  We might be able to better protect elections from those bad intentions, but the bad intentions remain and will lead to other instances of cheating, lying, and reducing the country to chaos in the pursuit of power.

I am largely aligned with both of y'all (little surprise in that). But what can shake it up is breaking through the liberal propaganda. Folks that catch them out in a lie will not be quick to lend them more support. I don;t see a massive impact on the voting system, even if they are caught out, and the fraud proved true. But there will be an impact on the left, as fair minded folks open their eyes. That, I think, is the best thing to be hoped for - more powerful the strictures put forth to limit the cheating itself.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on June 15, 2021, 04:08:33 pm
But what can shake it up is breaking through the liberal propaganda. Folks that catch them out in a lie will not be quick to lend them more support. I don;t see a massive impact on the voting system, even if they are caught out, and the fraud proved true. But there will be an impact on the left, as fair minded folks open their eyes. That, I think, is the best thing to be hoped for - more powerful the strictures put forth to limit the cheating itself.

Do you think most folks will get that message, or will it be lost amongst the leftist media propaganda?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: roamer_1 on June 15, 2021, 04:20:55 pm
Do you think most folks will get that message, or will it be lost amongst the leftist media propaganda?

Hard telling. But I will liken it to the WalkAway movement... Them folks, on the whole, are now vehemently opposed to the lies they once were made to believe. It is easy to get folks to walk down the garden path. But Katie bar the door if they ever do figure out they've been had. It is a game changer, and could make for a paradigm shift.

Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Bigun on June 15, 2021, 04:27:36 pm
When our rulers are free to do as they damned well please Constitutions and laws are meaningless.

There are thousands hacking at the branches of evil to one hacking at the root!

Henry David  Thoreau
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 17, 2021, 12:38:49 am
When our rulers are free to do as they damned well please Constitutions and laws are meaningless.

There are thousands hacking at the branches of evil to one hacking at the root!

Henry David  Thoreau
Absolutely.

People, not written laws, legislatures, governors or presidents, are the final arbiter.

The Constitution, written by the states, has already been proven to be meaningless by the actions of the Supreme Court in rejecting questions on the legitimacy of the recent election when the Constitution clearly recognized the obligations of that court to take up the Texas case.  17 states joined in this petition which was rejected by the court.

The role of the Supreme Court is explicitly described to take up and arbitrate confrontations between states and it failed its Constitutional duty to do so.

So states and their citizens are left to fend for themselves when the binding document upon which they joined the Union is disregarded.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on June 22, 2021, 04:07:03 pm

AZ Audit Reviewing Thousands of Ballots Where Machines Did Not Detect Vote for President, Audit Liaison Says
June 22, 2021
Written by Martin Walsh

Many have been arguing for months that the election audit in Maricopa County, Arizona, could pave the way for many other states to follow.

Now, we have another big update.

Ken Bennett, Senate liaison to the Maricopa County, Arizona, election audit, revealed there are more than 33,000 ballots from November’s election where voters made no selection for president or at least no votes that were detected by the voting machines.

“There were over 33,000 undervotes,” Bennett told The Western Journal.

more
https://conservativebrief.com/reviewing-thousands-43367/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: jafo2010 on June 22, 2021, 07:00:11 pm
The ONLY solution is paper ballots and end electronic voting.  It is too easy to cheat, and anyone that does not understand that, has limited knowledge of computers.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 23, 2021, 03:10:53 am
AZ Audit Reviewing Thousands of Ballots Where Machines Did Not Detect Vote for President, Audit Liaison Says
June 22, 2021
Written by Martin Walsh

Many have been arguing for months that the election audit in Maricopa County, Arizona, could pave the way for many other states to follow.

Now, we have another big update.

Ken Bennett, Senate liaison to the Maricopa County, Arizona, election audit, revealed there are more than 33,000 ballots from November’s election where voters made no selection for president or at least no votes that were detected by the voting machines.

“There were over 33,000 undervotes,” Bennett told The Western Journal.

more
https://conservativebrief.com/reviewing-thousands-43367/
Sharpies?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: DB on June 23, 2021, 03:48:45 pm
Sharpies?

Wasn't the issue with Sharpies that they bled through the paper making the other side difficult to read for the scanner? The color of the ink can be important too.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Smokin Joe on June 23, 2021, 05:08:58 pm
Wasn't the issue with Sharpies that they bled through the paper making the other side difficult to read for the scanner? The color of the ink can be important too.
IIRC, the scanners would read marks made with ballpoint pens, but not those made with the sharpies.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 23, 2021, 05:35:55 pm
IIRC, the scanners would read marks made with ballpoint pens, but not those made with the sharpies.

The ballots in AZ were changed a lot from the ones two years before.  "Filling in ovals" is not as good as connecting the two ends of an arrow.  I hate it.  We also have video voting stations that create a paper tape with codes to be fed into a tabulator, similar to a grocery store receipt.  I hate that too.

BTW, can you guess what kind of pen was used for the "connect the arrow" ballots in use until 2020?

Sharpies.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on June 23, 2021, 06:05:02 pm
The ballots in AZ were changed a lot from the ones two years before.  "Filling in ovals" is not as good as connecting the two ends of an arrow.  I hate it.  We also have video voting stations that create a paper tape with codes to be fed into a tabulator, similar to a grocery store receipt.  I hate that too.

BTW, can you guess what kind of pen was used for the "connect the arrow" ballots in use until 2020?

Sharpies.

It's technically feasible, not even hard, to provide the voter with some printed receipt that he could use to validate that his vote was tabulated and who he voted for. This could be done so that Only someone with the receipt could do this, and not even the operators of the server could. That none of these electronic voting companies, to my knowledge anyway, has ever publicly proposed such a feature tells me that there is no demand for this from the states. I have always found this puzzling. I mean why spend all this money on electronic vote tabulation without taking advantage of what the tech could provide in increased vote integrity and voter confidence. Instead we end up with something that's less secure than the paper ballot, finger-in-ink approach used in Iraq.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on June 26, 2021, 01:16:23 pm
BREAKING UPDATE: HISTORY MADE AS FINAL ARIZONA BALLOT INSPECTIONS COMPLETED – Huge Preliminary Report Expected Monday When True Number of Ballot Totals Announced
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/breaking-update-history-made-final-arizona-ballot-inspections-completed-huge-preliminary-report-expected-monday-true-number-ballot-totals-announced/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 26, 2021, 01:23:43 pm
I noticed at azaudit.org the activity ceased yesterday. 
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Polly Ticks on June 26, 2021, 03:55:47 pm
 :2popcorn:
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: MajorClay on June 28, 2021, 03:49:55 pm
Well?    :2popcorn:
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 28, 2021, 03:59:19 pm
Well, what?  Did you expect some sort of report today?  This would be premature, when there is so much work still in progress.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: MajorClay on June 28, 2021, 04:00:41 pm
Yes

BREAKING UPDATE: HISTORY MADE AS FINAL ARIZONA BALLOT INSPECTIONS COMPLETED – Huge Preliminary Report Expected Monday When True Number of Ballot Totals Announced
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 28, 2021, 04:07:57 pm
Yes

BREAKING UPDATE: HISTORY MADE AS FINAL ARIZONA BALLOT INSPECTIONS COMPLETED – Huge Preliminary Report Expected Monday When True Number of Ballot Totals Announced

That was a Gateway Pundit story that was immediately denounced by Senator Fann as wildly speculative and untrue.  IOW, Hoft lied again for clicks.

I never expected any release of data before the final report comes out in the next month or so.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: rustynail on June 28, 2021, 04:38:57 pm
Gateway Pundit is getting to be a disappointment. 
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on June 29, 2021, 01:13:09 pm
Arizona's Maricopa County to replace all voting machines after GOP audit

Arizona’s Maricopa County announced Monday that it plans to replace all of the voting machines that were turned over to the state Senate and other officials overseeing the audit of 2020 presidential election results.

The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors released its response to a May letter from Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs (D), in which she expressed concerns “regarding the security and integrity of these machines, given that the chain of custody, a critical security tenet, has been compromised and election officials do not know what was done to the machines while under Cyber Ninjas’ control.”

In response, the county told Hobbs it “shares your concerns” and added that the board acknowledges the secretary of state’s “authority as Arizona’s Chief Election Officer to determine what equipment is acceptable for use in Arizona’s elections.”

“Accordingly, I write to notify you that Maricopa County will not use the subpoenaed election equipment in any future election,” Monday’s letter added.

more
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/560660-arizonas-maricopa-county-to-replace-all-voting-machines-after-gop-audit
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Bigun on June 29, 2021, 01:58:26 pm
Job done! Trump is gone and we don't need them anymore.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 29, 2021, 02:07:08 pm
It sounds like the Rats are out to deny credibility to whatever the audit is going to turn up.  "The machines were fine until the damned Republicans got hold of them!  They did it!  Now they're damaged beyond repair!"
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on June 30, 2021, 01:15:19 am
The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors released its response to a May letter from Arizona Secretary of State Katie Hobbs (D), in which she expressed concerns “regarding the security and integrity of these machines, given that the chain of custody, a critical security tenet, has been compromised and election officials do not know what was done to the machines while under Cyber Ninjas’ control.”

Gee, no such concerns when Dominion employees were accessing these machines while the election was ongoing.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on July 04, 2021, 09:07:13 pm
Arizona Audit Report Will Show ‘Significant Discrepancies’: Arizona State Senators Share Claim On Social Media

As the Maricopa County election audit continues in Arizona, a prominent state senator appeared to agree with remarks from an account following the election that the audit will show “significant discrepancies between the ballots audited and the original ballot count.”

The Maricopa County ballots were counted, inspected, and returned to the county last week. It counted 2,089,563 ballots.

Posting on Twitter, State Senator Sonny Borrelli retweeted a tweet by the account @2020ElectionUp3 that wrote:

Quote
The audit report by the AZ State Senate will show significant discrepancies between the ballots audited and original count, when it’s released. Also, Maricopa County has failed to produce routers and passwords for machines. The Senate could issue a follow up subpoena.

https://twitter.com/WendyRogersAZ/status/1411521401639497735

more
https://conservativebrief.com/arizona-audit-report-will-show-significant-discrepancies-arizona-state-senators-share-claim-on-social-media-44385/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 04, 2021, 09:44:23 pm
I just love Senator Sonny Borrelli and Legislator Leo Biasiucci.  They are the Whips of their respective chambers, and have been right on top of the Election fiasco from before the beginning.  They are also "my guys" from Mohave County.  They both live in Lake Havasu City, as does Chairman Kelli Ward.

Somehow, I managed to fall into a bit of a conservative powerhouse here in Mohave.  Our Congressman is also top notch:  Paul Gosar.   The laugh, I guess, is I'm Vice Chairman of the County GOP.  Mrs. Liberty is Director of the Bullhead City District.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: sneakypete on July 04, 2021, 10:46:46 pm
Chanel Rion OAN
@ChanelRion


The FEC's allowable Error Rate is 1 in 250k, or, 0.0008%

According to MI Forensics Audit of 16 Dominion Machines, error rate was 68.5% #AlliedSecOpsGroup

MI Dems have since ordered all 83 Counties to DELETE all election and software data from Dominion machines.


@Right_in_Virginia

Isn't that illegal while law suites are still being filed?
12:30 PM · Dec 14, 2020·Twitter Web App
https://twitter.com/ChanelRion/status/1338536919056195585
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 05, 2021, 12:51:11 am

Seems to me all that information is supposed to be preserved, although the statutory preservation period may vary from state to state.

Ordering it deleted is as much as an admission of guilt, (there is no plausible reason to delete Brady Material), and only serves to cover asses and obscure the extent of impropriety. If I were a judge, I would decertify the electoral votes and the election based on the destruction of evidence (always a crime).
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 05, 2021, 01:37:00 am


Look closely!

"MI Dems have since ordered all 83 Counties to DELETE all election and software data from Dominion machines."

They deleted from the "Dominion machines," but the data is still preserved by the crooked Secretary of State.  This is a move to get the data out of the hands of the auditors when they come calling.

Possession is 9/10ths of the law.  Now only the SoS has possession.  Since it still exists, nobody can be prosecuted for Spoliation of Evidence.  See how that shit works?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 05, 2021, 01:58:30 am
Look closely!

"MI Dems have since ordered all 83 Counties to DELETE all election and software data from Dominion machines."

They deleted from the "Dominion machines," but the data is still preserved by the crooked Secretary of State.  This is a move to get the data out of the hands of the auditors when they come calling.

Possession is 9/10ths of the law.  Now only the SoS has possession.  Since it still exists, nobody can be prosecuted for Spoliation of Evidence.  See how that shit works?
No, actually, how will it be certified that that data has not been tampered with when it has been removed from the machines? Second. Surrender the data, etc. or be held in contempt.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: jafo2010 on July 05, 2021, 04:16:37 pm
Dominion and there associate companies should be forced out of existence. 

The USA needs to return to manual voting.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 05, 2021, 04:32:10 pm
No, actually, how will it be certified that that data has not been tampered with when it has been removed from the machines? Second. Surrender the data, etc. or be held in contempt.

Have Subpoenas even been issued in MI?  And...the Secretary of State will "certify" the data is intact.  That person's "word" will be taken at face value.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: rustynail on July 05, 2021, 04:38:54 pm
WarRoom
@WarRoom
·
32m
➡️ Matt DePerno, Constitutional Attorney:
BREAKING: There was a security breach of the voter registration servers in Arizona on November 3rd that the Secretary of State has known about and has hidden it. Maricopa County has also known about it.
(is this real?)

https://gettr.com/post/p1mmjs
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 05, 2021, 04:42:48 pm
WarRoom
@WarRoom
·
32m
➡️ Matt DePerno, Constitutional Attorney:
BREAKING: There was a security breach of the voter registration servers in Arizona on November 3rd that the Secretary of State has known about and has hidden it. Maricopa County has also known about it.
(is this real?)

https://gettr.com/post/p1mmjs

I haven't heard of that before I read your Post, so I can't vouch for it.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on July 05, 2021, 04:43:31 pm
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BREAKING: There was a security breach of the voter registration servers in Arizona on November 3rd that the Secretary of State has known about and has hidden it.

It's not a security breach when the system is set up to allow outside access.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 05, 2021, 04:48:18 pm
It's not a security breach when the system is set up to allow outside access.

I did a DDG search, and there is no published story that backs up this claim.  The Russians did try it in June, 2016 but they supposedly failed.  There's nothing at all about it happening in 2020, as Mr. DePerno accuses.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on July 05, 2021, 04:49:38 pm
That doesn't change the fact that the system is set up to allow outside access.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Elderberry on July 05, 2021, 04:53:09 pm
It's not a security breach when the system is set up to allow outside access.

It is definitely a security breach If unauthorized persons were remotely accessing the servers.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 05, 2021, 04:58:01 pm
That doesn't change the fact that the system is set up to allow outside access.

That's correct, if true.  It doesn't change that fact. 

"Outside access" does not necessarily mean "total outside access." 

Voters can look to the database to see if they are registered, and to what Party, but there's no access to the other information like street addresses, phone numbers and email addresses.  They can also look at it to determine if their mail-in votes were received, but not how they voted.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: sneakypete on July 05, 2021, 07:12:17 pm
It's not a security breach when the system is set up to allow outside access.

@Hoodat

True,it becomes a feature.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on July 05, 2021, 08:12:53 pm
It is definitely a security breach If unauthorized persons were remotely accessing the servers.

They were authorized.  Maricopa County has openly admitted that Dominion and Dominion alone had online access to the voting machines.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 05, 2021, 08:29:57 pm
They were authorized.  Maricopa County has openly admitted that Dominion and Dominion alone had online access to the voting machines.

In my untrained eyes, that's just as bad.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 05, 2021, 10:01:13 pm
In my untrained eyes, that's just as bad.
Yep. One corporation controlled the election in multiple key states which stopped the count. It would be interesting to see if the algorithm was the same in all those machines (in EVERY state that used Dominion) for weighting the vote.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 05, 2021, 10:05:02 pm
Yep. One corporation controlled the election in multiple key states which stopped the count. It would be interesting to see if the algorithm was the same in all those machines (in EVERY state that used Dominion) for weighting the vote.

Which are exactly the data points we want to see.  That's why the Admin passwords are "lost."  That is the precise location of the Smoking Gun.  I am praying for some white hat hackers about now.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 05, 2021, 10:18:05 pm
Which are exactly the data points we want to see.  That's why the Admin passwords are "lost."  That is the precise location of the Smoking Gun.  I am praying for some white hat hackers about now.
Did they actually peel them off the underside of the keyboards? Or were they the sticker numbers on the machines (S/N)
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 05, 2021, 10:52:32 pm
Did they actually peel them off the underside of the keyboards? Or were they the sticker numbers on the machines (S/N)

They don't put password stickers on machines.  As for S/Ns,  that will get you nowhere because it's Dominion that's refusing to come across with the passwords.

No, we need to hack these machines.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on July 06, 2021, 12:18:20 am
In my untrained eyes, that's just as bad.

It's worse.  It discards incompetence and replaces it with complicity.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on July 06, 2021, 12:23:04 am
Yep. One corporation controlled the election in multiple key states which stopped the count. It would be interesting to see if the algorithm was the same in all those machines (in EVERY state that used Dominion) for weighting the vote.

Once those routers are reviewed, it will be interesting to see if the same MAC address appears on routers in different States.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Victoria33 on July 06, 2021, 02:34:13 am
That's correct, if true.  It doesn't change that fact. 
"Outside access" does not necessarily mean "total outside access." 
Voters can look to the database to see if they are registered, and to what Party, but there's no access to the other information like street addresses, phone numbers and email addresses.  They can also look at it to determine if their mail-in votes were received, but not how they voted.
@Elderberry
@Cyber Liberty

In most states, Individuals may buy a copy of a county or state voter list.  All states are not the same, however, so you can go to the link below and find out if you can buy a county or state voter list in each state.

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/access-to-and-use-of-voter-registration-lists.aspx

Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on July 06, 2021, 03:01:26 am
@Elderberry
@Cyber Liberty

In most states, Individuals may buy a copy of a county or state voter list.  All states are not the same, however, so you can go to the link below and find out if you can buy a county or state voter list in each state.

https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/access-to-and-use-of-voter-registration-lists.aspx

This would do no good in Georgia since no one bothered to check absentee ballots for signatures.  There's no way of telling who voted absentee.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on July 06, 2021, 04:08:51 am
I did a DDG search, and there is no published story that backs up this claim.  The Russians did try it in June, 2016 but they supposedly failed.  There's nothing at all about it happening in 2020, as Mr. DePerno accuses.

@Cyber Liberty
You can find his interview here:

https://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1412102183127027716
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Victoria33 on July 06, 2021, 11:57:26 am
This would do no good in Georgia since no one bothered to check absentee ballots for signatures.  There's no way of telling who voted absentee.
@Hoodat
@Elderberry
@Cyber Liberty

Hoodat, I woke up at 4 am and have been sitting at the kitchen table with one of my computers, studying Georgia Election Law as regards mail ballots.
I cannot find out what the current law is; I clicked on their Election Code, and it was last updated in  2013.  2013

There are a number of articles about Georgia Election Law, they all tend to be complaints about the law.
Look, I taught Texas Mail Ballot Election law to Republican County Clerks, Election Administrators, and Republican officials/election judges/clerks in those counties.  I know how this stuff works.  I did it for 16 years.  If I do not know something, I study it until I know it all.  The election code book is in my head and I change it in my head when new laws happen in Texas elections.

I wrote the above not to brag that I know that stuff; I wrote it so you know it takes effort and will power to know the nitty-gritty of the law so you can shut down any Democrat who wants to stop you.  The Democrat District Attorney tried to remove me, and a state case was started and I won because I knew the law and the Democrat DA did not.  John Cornyn was the Texas State Attorney General then and he ruled in my favor because I was right.

I am taking time to write this because I want you to know you have to do serious work to know what your election laws are.  Give Georgia some time to get their act together on laws, then down load their WHOLE ELECTION CODE and read the whole thing.  You will be amazed when you start reading it.  I think you need the actual election code law book in your hand, but at least when it is up to date, download the whole thing if you do not buy the book.

@Hoodat, do this, get or download the election code when it is updated.  Contact your state representative or state senator and ask them when the law book will be up to date.  They will not know and therefore will have to find out....
It appears by what I read, all can vote by mail and all must fill out an application for a mail ballot.  See, the problem is, I do not know if they have changed this law.

Hoodat, an application has the voter's name on it.  In Texas, that name is notated that a mail ballot has been mailed to that voter.  That is your by mail voters' names and addresses. 

I read this:
"Georgia Judge Unseals More Than 145,000 Absentee Ballots For 2020 Election Fraud Investigation
MAY 21, 2021 By Gabe Kaminsky"

Georgia is screwed-up, you and I need to go to that state and "fix it".  Packing my bag now...
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on July 06, 2021, 02:53:48 pm
@Victoria33

Thank you for your support.  The bottom line is that it really doesn't matter what Georgia law says since the Secretary of State decided to ignore those laws and write his own.

By law:

Ballot harvesting is prohibited.  Yet it was allowed.

Absentee ballots require a signature check.  But this was waived.

A fixed number of drop boxes are permitted.  Yet this fixed number was expanded.

Any ballots transported from one location to another require chain-of-custody documentation stating time, location, and personnel.  Over 1,800 of these documents are missing.

The transport of ballots must be conducted by government employees.  Yet partisan third-party contractors were assigned these tasks.

Photo ID is required for voting.  Yet tens of thousands of new applicants were allowed to register by mail without ID, and then cast ballots without ID.

People not qualified to vote in November were also disqualified to vote in the January runoff.  Yet hundreds of young people turning 18 after the November election were allowed to vote in January.

Voting machines require recertification after any software changes are made.  Yet Dominion made software changes in October a month before election day with no subsequent re-certification.  Nor was one done before the January runoff.

With any tabulation of ballots, both parties are allowed to assign representatives to observe the process.  Yet Republican observers were locked out of the process on election night.

The deadline for accepting ballots is Election Day at 7 pm.  Yet ballots were still being accepted and counted five days after election day.

Absentee ballots are to be sent to voters by request only.  Yet the State sent an absentee ballot to every registered voter in the State, regardless of whether that person still lived in the State or resided at that address.



Let that last one sink in.  People were turned away at the polls on election day because someone had gotten hold of their unsolicited absentee ballot and voted in their place weeks earlier.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 06, 2021, 02:59:33 pm
@Hoodat  Many of those were also done in Arizona.  Not all, but most.  Dominion also made changes to the machines in AZ that were not certified.  And people were being turned away from polls all over the state because somebody already cast their ballot by mail.  I've had people calling the GOP Office very angry about this.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: DB on July 06, 2021, 03:13:48 pm
Once those routers are reviewed, it will be interesting to see if the same MAC address appears on routers in different States.

IP packets don't carry MAC addresses unless it is IPv6 which isn't common.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on July 06, 2021, 03:15:52 pm
IP packets don't carry MAC addresses unless it is IPv6 which isn't common.

Routers collect MAC addresses of everything they come in contact with.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: DB on July 06, 2021, 05:23:21 pm
Routers collect MAC addresses of everything they come in contact with.

Sort of. A router connected to a local area network collects MAC addresses of the local equipment connected to it only. What goes out the WAN port to the Internet does not. The router's IP logs would have what IP addresses made connections from the outside, but no MAC addresses for that equipment.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on July 06, 2021, 05:27:27 pm
Sort of. A router connected to a local area network collects MAC addresses of the local equipment connected to it only. What goes out the WAN port to the Internet does not. The router's IP logs would have what IP addresses made connections from the outside, but no MAC addresses for that equipment.

Correct.  The IP logs would also have a timestamp along with that MAC address to determine whether the system was accessed locally from a known list of MAC addresses, or from an outside switch or router.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 06, 2021, 06:19:32 pm
We're assuming the routers weren't wiped.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: roamer_1 on July 06, 2021, 08:42:04 pm
We're assuming the routers weren't wiped.

That ain't Election guy wiping routers... That is IT guy... And I will assert, as always, there will be a CYA file... There ALWAYS is. IT will not be the bagholder.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: roamer_1 on July 06, 2021, 08:44:39 pm
And lets not forget - There is SOME information in upstream routers (distributed and way harder to hide)... Won't tell you who was banging on the local machines, but it WILL tell you who was banging on the local router.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mountaineer on July 07, 2021, 07:10:19 pm
https://twitter.com/AuditWarRoom/status/1412840691051413510
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 07, 2021, 08:47:00 pm
https://twitter.com/AuditWarRoom/status/1412840691051413510

Because that's the gun issuing the most smoke?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on July 11, 2021, 12:59:58 pm
Arizona Senate Has Decided to Count All Ballots Audited in Maricopa County for a Third Time
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/arizona-senate-decided-recount-ballots-audited-maricopa-county-third-time/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: sneakypete on July 11, 2021, 03:28:31 pm
Arizona Senate Has Decided to Count All Ballots Audited in Maricopa County for a Third Time
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/arizona-senate-decided-recount-ballots-audited-maricopa-county-third-time/

@mystery-ak

Really? If they didn't get it right the first 2 times,what makes them think they will get it right this time?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 11, 2021, 03:49:05 pm
@mystery-ak

Really? If they didn't get it right the first 2 times,what makes them think they will get it right this time?
C'mon, man! It's best, two out of three!
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 11, 2021, 04:42:49 pm
@mystery-ak

Really? If they didn't get it right the first 2 times,what makes them think they will get it right this time?

They aren't scanning for votes, they want an aggregate count of the ballots to correlate the count done by Cyber Ninjas.  It's prudent.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: sneakypete on July 11, 2021, 04:47:39 pm
They aren't scanning for votes, they want an aggregate count of the ballots to correlate the count done by Cyber Ninjas.  It's prudent.

@Cyber Liberty

I'm sorry,I am having a chemo brain day. Can you explain that in plain language?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 11, 2021, 04:57:47 pm
@Cyber Liberty

I'm sorry,I am having a chemo brain day. Can you explain that in plain language?

Sure!  They are just running the ballots through a counter to see what the total number of votes are.  The machine works like those currency counters banks and casinos use to count money.  They are not counting votes, they are counting the number of ballots.

They want to make sure the count is the same that Cyber Ninjas came up with.  This is a necessary task if the Cyber Ninja's tally disagrees with the "official" tally done by corrupted Maricopa County.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: sneakypete on July 11, 2021, 05:00:26 pm
Sure!  They are just running the ballots through a counter to see what the total number of votes are.  The machine works like those currency counters banks and casinos use to count money.  They are not counting votes, they are counting the number of ballots.

They want to make sure the count is the same that Cyber Ninjas came up with.  This is a necessary task if the Cyber Ninja's tally disagrees with the "official" tally done by corrupted Maricopa County.

@Cyber Liberty

Ok,thanks!
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: jafo2010 on July 12, 2021, 10:04:05 pm
Only in the corrupt state of Pennsylvania would such nonsense take place. 
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on July 14, 2021, 05:54:54 pm
Arizona Senate President Says 2020 Election Audit’s Ballot Count Doesn’t Match Maricopa Tally

ISABEL VAN BRUGEN   |   July 14, 2021


Arizona Senate President Karen Fann on Tuesday said that the 2020 presidential election audit’s ballot count led by Cyber Ninjas differed from the Maricopa County tally, and that the discrepancy prompted the election review team to acquire new machines to recount the ballots.

“They haven’t released a number yet,” Fann, a Republican, said during in an interview with KTAR (https://ktar.com/category/podcast_player/?a=93103390-547c-4007-bb61-ad6401161d42&sid=1001&n=The+Mike+Broomhead+Show). “However, we do know that those numbers do not match with Maricopa County at this point.”

Jack Sellers, the chairman of the county’s Board of Supervisors, told The Epoch Times in an emailed statement that he was not surprised by the claim.

“While experienced professionals at the County used the latest certified tabulation technology and established processes to count almost 2.1 million ballots in accordance with Arizona law, the Senate contractors have taken a different approach. They’ve cycled through processes and procedures, chasing conspiracy theories while volunteers with no elections experience tried to accurately count votes as they spun by on turntables. Elections experts from across the country have said this method is flawed and will produce incorrect results,” he said.  .  .

https://www.theepochtimes.com/arizona-senate-president-says-2020-election-audits-ballot-count-doesnt-match-maricopa-tally_3900886.html
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: DB on July 14, 2021, 06:03:48 pm
Arizona Senate President Says 2020 Election Audit’s Ballot Count Doesn’t Match Maricopa Tally

ISABEL VAN BRUGEN   |   July 14, 2021


Arizona Senate President Karen Fann on Tuesday said that the 2020 presidential election audit’s ballot count led by Cyber Ninjas differed from the Maricopa County tally, and that the discrepancy prompted the election review team to acquire new machines to recount the ballots.

“They haven’t released a number yet,” Fann, a Republican, said during in an interview with KTAR (https://ktar.com/category/podcast_player/?a=93103390-547c-4007-bb61-ad6401161d42&sid=1001&n=The+Mike+Broomhead+Show). “However, we do know that those numbers do not match with Maricopa County at this point.”

Jack Sellers, the chairman of the county’s Board of Supervisors, told The Epoch Times in an emailed statement that he was not surprised by the claim.

“While experienced professionals at the County used the latest certified tabulation technology and established processes to count almost 2.1 million ballots in accordance with Arizona law, the Senate contractors have taken a different approach. They’ve cycled through processes and procedures, chasing conspiracy theories while volunteers with no elections experience tried to accurately count votes as they spun by on turntables. Elections experts from across the country have said this method is flawed and will produce incorrect results,” he said.  .  .

https://www.theepochtimes.com/arizona-senate-president-says-2020-election-audits-ballot-count-doesnt-match-maricopa-tally_3900886.html

The only excuse for ballot count differences is if ballots stick together and get counted as one. Ballots are thick and that shouldn't happen.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 14, 2021, 06:33:35 pm
The only excuse for ballot count differences is if ballots stick together and get counted as one. Ballots are thick and that shouldn't happen.

I think the aggregate counting will show the total number ballots is less than the "Election Results."  It was reported many boxes contained fewer votes than the accompanying paperwork.  If ballots "stuck together" in November, we'd be seeing the opposite right now.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: DB on July 14, 2021, 09:04:45 pm
I think the aggregate counting will show the total number ballots is less than the "Election Results."  It was reported many boxes contained fewer votes than the accompanying paperwork.  If ballots "stuck together" in November, we'd be seeing the opposite right now.

I was thinking about them being stuck together now when they were audited. I assume they were still counted by machine. Did they use machines that could detect if something was too thick (stuck together)?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on July 14, 2021, 10:53:45 pm
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1415405633575268359

more
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2021/07/14/house-democrats-announce-investigation-of-arizona-audit-in-really-desperate-sounding-letter-n410947
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: roamer_1 on July 14, 2021, 11:28:16 pm
more
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2021/07/14/house-democrats-announce-investigation-of-arizona-audit-in-really-desperate-sounding-letter-n410947

Congress can GTFO. It ain't none of their dang business.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: roamer_1 on July 14, 2021, 11:33:33 pm
I think the aggregate counting will show the total number ballots is less than the "Election Results."  It was reported many boxes contained fewer votes than the accompanying paperwork.  If ballots "stuck together" in November, we'd be seeing the opposite right now.

That's certainly how it feels... There is little reason for the legislature to bother with it unless there is a substantial discrepancy - and their method reveals the lede: They are not interested in any permutations. They are interested in raw ballot count. That is revealing...

BTW, it tends to discount or at least reserve network shenanigans (Dominion).

Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 14, 2021, 11:47:05 pm
I was thinking about them being stuck together now when they were audited. I assume they were still counted by machine. Did they use machines that could detect if something was too thick (stuck together)?

The aggregate counting machines are just like the ones the banks and casinos use to count currency.  I doubt ballots are sticking together now.  If they can count fresh, uncirculated 20's, and they do stick together, then I am sure they can count ballots properly.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: HoustonSam on July 15, 2021, 12:52:36 am
Congress can GTFO. It ain't none of their dang business.

Roger that, wall-to-wall.  I wonder if the AZ "ledge" can bring legal action to enjoin the US Congress on this?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: DB on July 15, 2021, 01:32:05 am
The aggregate counting machines are just like the ones the banks and casinos use to count currency.  I doubt ballots are sticking together now.  If they can count fresh, uncirculated 20's, and they do stick together, then I am sure they can count ballots properly.

Oh I agree. But that is the ONLY excuse for coming out with different ballot counts. I wonder if the Cyber Ninja's did two counts and had to have them match. Would seem likely in an audit.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: roamer_1 on July 15, 2021, 05:54:37 am
Roger that, wall-to-wall.  I wonder if the AZ "ledge" can bring legal action to enjoin the US Congress on this?

I'd say they should reply with a picture of Goofy flippin em the bird.  :laugh:

No legality necessary. Ain't their bailiwick.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Elderberry on July 15, 2021, 10:48:03 am
Arizona Senate to Hold Hearing Thursday Morning at 10 AM on Arizona Election Audit

Gateway Pundit by Jim Hoft 7/14/2021

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/breaking-arizona-senate-hold-hearing-thursday-morning-10-arizona-audit/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/breaking-arizona-senate-hold-hearing-thursday-morning-10-arizona-audit/)

Arizona Senate President Karen Fann announced a public election audit hearing for tomorrow at 10:00am MST.

Tomorrow at 10 AM!

Here is the link to the live-feed (https://www.azleg.gov/videoplayer/?clientID=6361162879&eventID=2021071008) for the video for tomorrow’s hearing.

(https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/7477C279-D884-4697-A96B-89FA8C7CDB06.jpeg)



Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on July 15, 2021, 06:36:58 pm
Arizona Senate to Hold Hearing Thursday Morning at 10 AM on Arizona Election Audit

Gateway Pundit by Jim Hoft 7/14/2021

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/breaking-arizona-senate-hold-hearing-thursday-morning-10-arizona-audit/ (https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/breaking-arizona-senate-hold-hearing-thursday-morning-10-arizona-audit/)

Arizona Senate President Karen Fann announced a public election audit hearing for tomorrow at 10:00am MST.

Tomorrow at 10 AM!

Here is the link to the live-feed (https://www.azleg.gov/videoplayer/?clientID=6361162879&eventID=2021071008) for the video for tomorrow’s hearing.

(https://i.imgur.com/aUlpcbW.gif)
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: rustynail on July 15, 2021, 06:40:32 pm
Big News Tomorrow!
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on July 15, 2021, 06:44:50 pm
Maricopa County Bombshell: ‘The Election System Was Actually Compromised Or Breached’
https://nationalfile.com/maricopa-county-bombshell-the-election-system-was-actually-compromised-or-breached/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on July 15, 2021, 06:45:44 pm
BREAKING: Audit Liaison Confirms Thousands Of Duplicate Ballots Had No Serial Numbers, Could Not Be Properly Counted
https://nationalfile.com/breaking-audit-liaison-confirms-thousands-of-duplicate-ballots-had-no-serial-numbers-could-not-be-properly-counted/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: corbe on July 15, 2021, 06:50:21 pm
   LIVE

https://youtu.be/7OZmNbBDQ6k (https://youtu.be/7OZmNbBDQ6k)
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Bigun on July 15, 2021, 07:22:07 pm
Did anyone else watch the hearing?  Is there ANY doubt that crooked crap was taking place in Maricopa County?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Restored on July 15, 2021, 07:22:29 pm
Democrats: All this can be easily explained, we just haven't come up with a believable lie yet. But one is forthcoming.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: bilo on July 15, 2021, 08:03:19 pm
Did anyone else watch the hearing?  Is there ANY doubt that crooked crap was taking place in Maricopa County?

I'm sure that the same things were done in GA.,WI.,MI., and PA.

No doubt Biden is an illegitimate POTUS.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on July 15, 2021, 08:56:18 pm
Democrats: All this can be easily explained, we just haven't come up with a believable lie yet. But one is forthcoming.
There has to be.  Otherwise, Twitter, Facebook and the Dems in the well of the chambers have all been caught in the open lying on the sanctification of the election.

And a lot more audits will be on the way.

This is just one county.  And over 500 more went for Biden, some of which are in states where GOP has control.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on July 15, 2021, 09:16:00 pm
Over 74,000 Mail-In Ballots Counted With No Record Of Being Sent Out, Verification Process Degraded To Nothing

PATRICK HOWLEY   |   July 15, 2021


Cyber Ninjas CEO Doug Logan said at a hearing before Arizona state senators Thursday that his election audit found more than 74,000 mail-in ballots that were counted in Maricopa County with no record of them being sent to the voters, and that the standard of verification for mail-in ballots dropped down to zero during the counting process. Logan is demanding the full library of mail-in ballot images from Maricopa County, which the county has not provided to him. Biden’s official lead in Arizona stands at only 10,457 votes.

“We have 74,243 mail-in ballots where there is no clear record of them being sent,” Doug Logan said. “And so we have 74,000 where we have them came back from individuals where we don’t have a clear indication that they were ever sent out to them.”

https://nationalfile.com/bombshell-over-74000-mail-in-ballots-counted-with-no-record-of-being-sent-out-verification-process-degraded-to-nothing/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 15, 2021, 09:33:55 pm
BREAKING: Audit Liaison Confirms Thousands Of Duplicate Ballots Had No Serial Numbers, Could Not Be Properly Counted
https://nationalfile.com/breaking-audit-liaison-confirms-thousands-of-duplicate-ballots-had-no-serial-numbers-could-not-be-properly-counted/

It came out at today's hearing that Maricopa County destroyed a lot of evidence.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on July 15, 2021, 10:22:04 pm
It came out at today's hearing that Maricopa County destroyed a lot of evidence.

That is a criminal offense punishable by prison time.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on July 15, 2021, 11:00:54 pm
That is a criminal offense punishable by prison time.
We need names named and prosecution to begin.  Voters and counters.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on July 16, 2021, 12:31:13 am
Now comes that portion of the audit while we all stand around and become increasingly disheartened as nothing is done about all the documented misconduct and outright voter fraud.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Bigun on July 16, 2021, 01:41:03 am
Now comes that portion of the audit while we all stand around and become increasingly disheartened as nothing is done about all the documented misconduct and outright voter fraud.

The remnant of our republic finally died on December 11, 2020.  What you suggest is just further proof of that fact.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: corbe on July 16, 2021, 02:13:22 am
   My cup has overflowed with Cynicism and for a very long time now.
   At times I find it difficult to find peace, though I know I will sustain whatever is necessary to keep me alive and somewhat Happy.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 16, 2021, 02:16:51 am
That is a criminal offense punishable by prison time.

Only if they find a miscreant.  So, the question is begged, "Will anybody dig into it to find out who that is?"

I wish I had some confidence, but the AG hasn't covered himself with glory lately.  :shrug:
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on July 16, 2021, 02:20:42 pm
State Senator Demands Biden Electors Be Recalled To Arizona and New Election Held
https://conservativebrief.com/demands-recalled-45402/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on July 16, 2021, 02:53:51 pm
I wish I had some confidence, but the AG hasn't covered himself with glory lately.  :shrug:

Same problem here in Georgia.  AG last seen on the side of a milk carton.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: sneakypete on July 16, 2021, 02:57:17 pm
No matter WHAT evidence anyone comes up with,AFAIK there is NO way to nullify an election. Once a President has been sworn in it is a done deal and the only "remedy" is to make him as powerless as possible,and vote him out come the next election.

Yeah,it sucks,but it is what it is. Anything else would be an admission of failure by our system,and that just can NOT be allowed by the politicians on either side of the aisle.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on July 16, 2021, 03:17:46 pm
The 2020 election is in the books, for better or worse.  No do-overs.  On to 2022 and 2024.

What are the GOP platforms for 2022 and 2024?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: rustynail on July 16, 2021, 04:50:42 pm
Judge Rejects Arizona Senate’s Motion to Keep Election Audit Records Private

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/judge-rejects-arizona-senates-motion-to-keep-election-audit-records-private_3904396.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking-2021-07-16-1&mktids=d09faee006664d008ff03de9d03c22ab&est=igF1fABv775Fm%2FnsJFVryDreducsTVmdZcdA8EZAkpH%2B1fsqhVwq5Pb%2BcDufvNiHQzxi
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: sneakypete on July 16, 2021, 08:32:46 pm
Am I the only one that thinks it seems like all the judges are deciding the election was stolen?

This is really interesting,considering there is AFAIK,no legal mechanism to re-do the election,or to remove Biden and replace him with Trump.

I have no freaking idea what is going to happen.

Can't even begin to guess.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: skeeter on July 16, 2021, 08:52:08 pm
The 2020 election is in the books, for better or worse.  No do-overs.  On to 2022 and 2024.

What are the GOP platforms for 2022 and 2024?
Probably whatever Trump says they are.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Free Vulcan on July 18, 2021, 10:51:15 pm
Quote
Cyber Ninjas Found So Many Issues with the Voting Machines and Processes in Maricopa County It’s a Wonder the Previous Auditors Didn’t Find These Issues Too

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/cyber-ninjas-found-many-issues-voting-machines-processes-maricopa-county-wonder-previous-auditors-didnt-find-issues/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Bigun on July 18, 2021, 11:23:44 pm


It's really hard to find what you refuse to look for.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: libertybele on July 18, 2021, 11:35:45 pm
Am I the only one that thinks it seems like all the judges are deciding the election was stolen?

This is really interesting,considering there is AFAIK,no legal mechanism to re-do the election,or to remove Biden and replace him with Trump.

I have no freaking idea what is going to happen.

Can't even begin to guess.

What's going to happen as a result??? My guess is not a darn thing.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on July 18, 2021, 11:49:38 pm
What's going to happen as a result??? My guess is not a darn thing.

Sadly, I agree with your prediction.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: jafo2010 on July 19, 2021, 07:38:29 am
Nothing happens.  The Biden Crime Organization got away with the crime of the century.  He even said he put a team together to generate a fraudulent outcome.  I am paraphrasing, but he did say it in what is most likely one of his weak mental moments.

Republicans need to pas voting legislation to end the blatant Democommie cheating.  And the elimination of electronic voting is necessary in my eyes.  We used manual voting for two centuries, return to what works, and end the dishonest Democommies now!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on July 19, 2021, 12:51:05 pm
Arizona Senate President Says State’s 11 Electors Can’t Be Recalled After Audit
https://conservativebrief.com/efforts-state-45767/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: sneakypete on July 19, 2021, 01:45:18 pm
Nothing happens.  The Biden Crime Organization got away with the crime of the century.  He even said he put a team together to generate a fraudulent outcome.  I am paraphrasing, but he did say it in what is most likely one of his weak mental moments.

Republicans need to pas voting legislation to end the blatant Democommie cheating.  And the elimination of electronic voting is necessary in my eyes.  We used manual voting for two centuries, return to what works, and end the dishonest Democommies now!!!!!!!!!!!!

@jafo2010

I couldn't agree more. Hell,if China can hack into our most protected military databases,how freaking hard would it be to hack into our electronic voting system?

Or easiest of all,just just one of the boatloads of American dollars they get from selling Chinese crap to Americas who no longer have the option to "buy American" to "buy" the people who own and manage the voting system?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: jafo2010 on July 19, 2021, 05:47:09 pm
And that brings up another point.  Time to begin curtailing trade with China.  F(*&ing Nixon was dead wrong to open the door to China.  And while Trump made small steps to begin scaling back China, I say we implement a program to scale back trade with them at 15% per year, setting a limit of no more than 20% of what it is presently.

Of course, with the CCP clown/pawn traitor Biden in office, he will continue to destroy the USA for their benefit.

Our leaders sold us out, the people of the USA long ago.  Biden has committed three separate acts of treason I know of, and this POS is POTUS!  Once you go over the waterfall, there is no clawing your way back.  Our republic has ended, and God only knows where we are headed.  We have communists embedded in all our educational institutions, and they are framing the mindset of our youth.   I see a Venezuela future for the USA, only worse!
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 19, 2021, 05:49:36 pm
Can we get back to the Original Topic?  Arizona:  Legal Updates

TIA
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: sneakypete on July 19, 2021, 11:30:55 pm
Quote
And that brings up another point.  Time to begin curtailing trade with China.  F(*&ing Nixon was dead wrong to open the door to China.  And while Trump made small steps to begin scaling back China, I say we implement a program to scale back trade with them at 15% per year, setting a limit of no more than 20% of what it is presently.

@jafo2010

The problem with that is soooo many of our manufacturing plants have been shut down,and the manufacturing moved to China. The Chinese were smart enough when they bought out the manufacturing to actually buy up the machines AND hire the supervisors and technicians to come to China to show them how to set everything up and get production rolling. I personally know of a meat packing plant engineer who went to China with his former plant that was in his hometown where his family still lives. They not only gave him an exorbinant salary for his treason,they gave him free housing in an apartment block with "American standard wiring and conveniences",flew him home free for a week or so every few months,and let him shop in the "special stores" only open to CP members. Had special busses to take him and his fellow traitors to work and back each day,and none of this cost them a nickel.

Even IF any of the plants were still standing and usable,and they ain't,there is no longer an experienced worker base to populate them.

Quote
Of course, with the CCP clown/pawn traitor Biden in office, he will continue to destroy the USA for their benefit.

Our leaders sold us out, the people of the USA long ago.  Biden has committed three separate acts of treason I know of, and this POS is POTUS!  Once you go over the waterfall, there is no clawing your way back.  Our republic has ended, and God only knows where we are headed.  We have communists embedded in all our educational institutions, and they are framing the mindset of our youth.   I see a Venezuela future for the USA, only worse!

I would really like to argue with you on this. I really,really would,but I can't.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: sneakypete on July 19, 2021, 11:32:12 pm
Can we get back to the Original Topic?  Arizona:  Legal Updates

TIA

@Cyber Liberty

My apologies.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on July 20, 2021, 12:42:17 am
@Cyber Liberty

My apologies.

@sneakypete

 :beer: :beer:
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: jafo2010 on July 25, 2021, 02:57:27 am
Sometimes a thread veers off a little.  The discussion of China is not exactly that far off.  We are talking about major acts of treason to fix a national election, and Arizona promised the first concrete step to provide proof.  And China's involvement in all that, who knows?

I fully expect nothing more than a tea and crumpets outcome for all audits.  Same for Durham's investigation.  The Democommies will tamp down anything standing in their way.  Stalin may be dead, but his methods of control are growing in the USA.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on July 25, 2021, 04:20:14 am
Perfect – Arizona GOP Senator Michelle Ugenti-Rita, Who Killed Election Reform Bill, Destroyed by Audience, Booed and Run Off Stage

July 24, 2021


Arizona Senator Michelle Ugenti-Rita was one of two republicans who voted with Democrats to kill SB1241, an Arizona senate bill to reform election integrity.  Senator Ugenti was scheduled to speak to the audience at Turning Point USA today; however, when she attempted to give her speech, the audience absolutely destroyed her with boos and jeers.

Ms. Ugenti attempted to deliver her speech, but the crowd grew louder with every word until eventually she had to walk off stage completely humiliated.  Well done Arizona.  Senator Ugenti does not stand a chance in her vain attempt to become Secretary of State.  It was brutal.  It was awesome, WATCH:

  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSQw54JclsY)

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/07/24/perfect-arizona-gop-senator-michelle-ugenti-rita-who-killed-election-reform-bill-destroyed-by-audience-booed-and-run-off-stage-during/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 25, 2021, 06:10:05 am
Perfect – Arizona GOP Senator Michelle Ugenti-Rita, Who Killed Election Reform Bill, Destroyed by Audience, Booed and Run Off Stage

July 24, 2021


Arizona Senator Michelle Ugenti-Rita was one of two republicans who voted with Democrats to kill SB1241, an Arizona senate bill to reform election integrity.  Senator Ugenti was scheduled to speak to the audience at Turning Point USA today; however, when she attempted to give her speech, the audience absolutely destroyed her with boos and jeers.

Ms. Ugenti attempted to deliver her speech, but the crowd grew louder with every word until eventually she had to walk off stage completely humiliated.  Well done Arizona.  Senator Ugenti does not stand a chance in her vain attempt to become Secretary of State.  It was brutal.  It was awesome, WATCH:

  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSQw54JclsY)

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/07/24/perfect-arizona-gop-senator-michelle-ugenti-rita-who-killed-election-reform-bill-destroyed-by-audience-booed-and-run-off-stage-during/
Why would she be so sure she is going to win the Primary?

Maybe because she helped kill the Bill... :pondering:
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: mystery-ak on July 30, 2021, 10:27:58 pm
ARIZONA: Mark Finchem Warns ‘Merrick Garland And His Team Of Thugs’ To ‘Tread Very Lightly’, Stay Away From Audit
Garland is "going to walk into a very surprising reception if you try to do anything in this state" to interfere with the legislature's handling of elections, Finchem warned.

more
https://nationalfile.com/arizona-mark-finchem-warns-merrick-garland-and-his-team-of-thugs-to-tread-very-lightly-stay-away-from-audit/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: sneakypete on July 30, 2021, 10:32:20 pm
Why would she be so sure she is going to win the Primary?

Maybe because she helped kill the Bill... :pondering:

@Smokin Joe

I'm guessing it is because she is pretty and shaply. It has been MY experience that women like that feel entitled.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Smokin Joe on July 30, 2021, 10:45:58 pm
@Smokin Joe

I'm guessing it is because she is pretty and shaply. It has been MY experience that women like that feel entitled.
With few exceptions in the absence of surgical intervention, they all succumb to the effects of nutrition and gravity. Meh.

Beauty is far more than skin deep. Ugly runs right to the bone.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on July 31, 2021, 12:28:27 am
Where's the beef! It's almost August!!!
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on August 31, 2021, 06:00:22 am
Arizona AG to Maricopa County: Provide Election Data or Lose $700 Million of State Funds

Ian Cheong   |   August 30, 2021


The Arizona Attorney General has escalated the fight over Arizona’s Maricopa County’s refusal to comply with an election audit subpoena issued by the state Senate.

The State Attorney General’s office has ordered Maricopa County to do as it says or lose its state funding. State funding provides for nearly a third of the county’s budget.

In a statement late last week, Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich said that Maricopa County, which is the fourth largest in the state’s population, is in violation of state law by its refusal to comply with the request for internet routers in the 2020 election audit and review of former President Donald Trump’s loss.  .  .

https://conservativebrief.com/defy-order-49906/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: jafo2010 on August 31, 2021, 06:21:33 am
So, when is the unicorn going to deliver a plausible result? 
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on August 31, 2021, 06:44:57 am
Where's the beef! It's almost August!!!

Almost September! Sh*t or get off the pot!!!
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 31, 2021, 02:27:00 pm
Arizona AG to Maricopa County: Provide Election Data or Lose $700 Million of State Funds

Ian Cheong   |   August 30, 2021


The Arizona Attorney General has escalated the fight over Arizona’s Maricopa County’s refusal to comply with an election audit subpoena issued by the state Senate.

The State Attorney General’s office has ordered Maricopa County to do as it says or lose its state funding. State funding provides for nearly a third of the county’s budget.

In a statement late last week, Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich said that Maricopa County, which is the fourth largest in the state’s population, is in violation of state law by its refusal to comply with the request for internet routers in the 2020 election audit and review of former President Donald Trump’s loss.  .  .

https://conservativebrief.com/defy-order-49906/

This story is not correct.  The fine will be 10% of the total money, which is about $65 Million.

I suspect the current delay is politically motivated, because dropping the Audit results now won't get any coverage during the Afghan fiasco.  Patience!
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Bigun on August 31, 2021, 02:30:56 pm
This story is not correct.  The fine will be 10% of the total money, which is about $65 Million.

I suspect the current delay is politically motivated, because dropping the Audit results now won't get any coverage during the Afghan fiasco.  Patience!

It won't get any coverage EVER!  Might as well do it now while the iron is still hot.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 31, 2021, 02:42:35 pm
It won't get any coverage EVER!  Might as well do it now while the iron is still hot.

I'm not a political scientist, but my instincts tell me this week....

I met with Kelli Ward last weekend at our Executive Meeting, and she's still not saying.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on August 31, 2021, 08:00:52 pm
I'm not a political scientist, but my instincts tell me this week....

I met with Kelli Ward last weekend at our Executive Meeting, and she's still not saying.

Doesn't matter. Too late at this point. Glad these people don't run our military or any life essential services.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 31, 2021, 08:09:56 pm
Doesn't matter. Too late at this point. Glad these people don't run our military or any life essential services.

Yeah, whatever.  Damn, Arizonans are stupid to not have listened to you.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: sneakypete on August 31, 2021, 09:31:59 pm
This story is not correct.  The fine will be 10% of the total money, which is about $65 Million.

I suspect the current delay is politically motivated, because dropping the Audit results now won't get any coverage during the Afghan fiasco.  Patience!

@Cyber Liberty

I couldn't agree more. Save your heavy artillery for the big battles.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on September 01, 2021, 12:31:13 am
Yeah, whatever.  Damn, Arizonans are stupid to not have listened to you.

Not Arizonans, but this CyberNinjas organization, or whomever is directing them. I realize they want to be thorough, but a perfect analysis that shows up almost a year after the election is of zero value.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 01, 2021, 12:33:20 am
This story is not correct.  The fine will be 10% of the total money, which is about $65 Million.

I suspect the current delay is politically motivated, because dropping the Audit results now won't get any coverage during the Afghan fiasco.  Patience!
The MSM will bury it  anyway, of dismiss it.

But on the heels of TFUTEAFU, any clear indication that the election was stolen would have a leg up.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: BassWrangler on September 01, 2021, 07:02:14 am
The MSM will bury it  anyway, of dismiss it.

But on the heels of TFUTEAFU, any clear indication that the election was stolen would have a leg up.

My hope is that it will motivate conservatives and provide some momentum to voter reforms. If the results ever show up, that is. It's already almost too late to help with midterm elections.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on September 22, 2021, 01:01:23 pm
Arizona Republican resigns after secret recording released

JONATHAN J. COOPER   |   September 22, 2021, 1:08 AM


PHOENIX -- A Republican official in Arizona resigned Tuesday from the board overseeing Maricopa County after a recording emerged of him criticizing his GOP colleagues for opposing a review of the 2020 election.

During the meeting recorded surreptitiously last March, Supervisor Steve Chucri suggested two fellow Republican county supervisors opposed the review by Senate Republicans because they nearly lost their own 2020 races.

Chucri apologized in a statement announcing his resignation and said he shouldn't have made the comments, adding “the political landscape has changed for the worst this year.”

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/arizona-republican-resigns-secret-recording-released-80161579



It seems it should be the other Republicans resigning, not Chucri.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: kevindavis007 on September 23, 2021, 11:57:19 pm
So this audit was a waste of time.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: EdinVA on September 24, 2021, 12:00:55 am
Sounds like he is being blackmailed to me.... surrendered to easily and declared biden won?  Does not make sense..
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 24, 2021, 12:07:37 am
Sounds like he is being blackmailed to me.... surrendered to easily and declared biden won?  Does not make sense..
Note the deflection to the others who supposedly opposed the audit because their races were close.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on September 24, 2021, 02:08:52 am
So this audit was a waste of time.

I was sure you would say so.   *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on September 24, 2021, 02:25:52 am
So this audit was a waste of time.

No, but the election sure was.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 24, 2021, 02:33:08 am
No, but the election sure was.
Depends on who is putting their feet on what desk, how it is regarded.

From one point of view, it is the greatest theft ever known.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on January 08, 2022, 04:24:50 am
Arizona election auditor Cyber Ninjas shuts down after judge orders massive fine

Ryan King  |  January 07, 2022  |  11:02 AM


Cyber Ninjas, a company hired by Arizona Republicans to audit the 2020 election ballots in Maricopa County, announced it is shutting down Thursday following a court ruling involving hefty fines.

The Maricopa Superior Court found the Florida company in contempt Thursday. It ordered it to comply with a prior ruling to release material related to a public record request or pay $50,000 a day in fines until it complies  .  .  .

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/arizona-election-auditor-cyber-ninjas-shuts-down-after-judge-orders-massive-fine



Basically, Maricopa County is demanding that Cyber Ninjas reveal the mechanisms it used to uncover all the vote fraud in that county.  They want this information so that they can tip off election officials in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Georgia, and Wisconsin to instruct them on how to block these same efforts in those states.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on January 08, 2022, 07:28:13 pm
Maricopa County Releases “Analysis Of The Senate Inquiry” – Admits To Double-Counted Ballots And Double Voting

Jordan Conradson  |  January 6, 2022  |  10:00pm[/size]


Yesterday, Maricopa County released a 93-page response (https://recorder.maricopa.gov/justthefacts/pdf/Correcting%20The%20Record%20-%20January%202022%20Report.pdf) to the Arizona Senate audit.

The auditors identified hundreds of thousands of illegal ballots.  They discovered internet connectivity on the Elections Management Server, deleted elections files, and several more election law violations.

The County denied every claim, but they finally admitted, a year after the election, to double voting and double-counted ballots.

All evidence from the Senate audit was delivered to Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich and Arizona voters are still waiting for justice.  .  .  .

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/01/maricopa-county-releases-analysis-senate-inquiry-admits-double-counted-ballots-double-voting/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on January 11, 2022, 07:07:39 pm
Policy Doesn't Mean a Thing

Maricopa County elections department claims it is policy to have two people in the server room whenever someone is using the server room (KVM) keyboard video monitor. This video clearly shows that policy means nothing to anyone at the MCTEC.  These videos are to show the blatant disregard for any laws, rules or statutes and is a clear indicator that there is plenty of willfully negligent and potentially unscrupulous people involved in our elections.

  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7IRWSNBip0)

https://wethepeopleazalliance.com/media-and-videos
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on January 11, 2022, 07:10:17 pm
Renee, Isn't there a law against this?
This is video of election workers using personal cell phone in secure areas that they are not allowed to have phones in. Second part also shows one reason why that’s not ok. She is taking pictures of ballots with her phone...  These videos are to show the blatant disregard for any laws, rules or statutes and is a clear indicator that there is plenty of willfully negligent and potentially unscrupulous people involved in our elections.

  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9FghSaY5h0)

https://wethepeopleazalliance.com/media-and-videos
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on January 11, 2022, 07:11:21 pm
What are you doing with those blank ballots?
Where are you going with the ballots and envelopes? Maybe there is a good explaination. What say you MCTEC?

  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZlqzWsm0YI)

https://wethepeopleazalliance.com/media-and-videos
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on January 11, 2022, 07:13:29 pm
What drive?
Election workers taking a new drive and unwrapping it for use in a secure area. There are strict rules to the use of drives and memory cards and new drives should be labeled and logged then given a chain of custody log.   These videos are to show the blatant disregard for any laws, rules or statutes and is a clear indicator that there is plenty of willfully negligent, and dare I say, unscrupulous people involved in our elections.

  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG45LuCMRNY)

https://wethepeopleazalliance.com/media-and-videos
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on February 08, 2022, 05:49:40 pm
Maricopa County Chain-of-Custody Failure
740,000 Ballots Have No Documented Chain of Custody
(https://verityvote.us/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Maricopa-Chain-of-Custody-Failure.pdf)

Verity Vote conducted an investigation of Maricopa County’s ballot chain of
custody for the 2020 General Election. County records used to document
retrieval of early voting ballots from vote centers and drop box locations reveal
numerous violations of Arizona election law.

The violations identified are important because failure to maintain chain of
custody and properly document ballot retrieval and transport makes it impossible
to verify the origin of the ballots counted in an election. Arizona Law outlines
specific requirements for secure ballot retrieval and chain of custody procedures
for the transfer of voted ballots from drop boxes and vote centers. Maricopa
County officials violated Arizona law and do not have the required chain of
custody for at least 740,000 ballots.

According to the U.S. Election Assistance Commission, “keeping a proper chain
of custody is more than a best practice ─ it is essential to encouraging trust in our
democracy.” EAC advocates for thorough, detailed chain of custody. “Chain
of custody documents provide evidence that can be used to authenticate
election results, corroborate post-election tabulation audits, and demonstrate
that election outcomes can be trusted.” The Arizona legislature understood the
need for ballot chain of custody and included that requirement in Title 16. The AZ
Secretary of State, Governor, and the Attorney General agreed on the
requirements for voted ballots deposited in Early Voting locations in the 2019
Elections Procedures Manual (EPM). The EPM identifies the County Recorder as
the party responsible for implementing procedures to ensure proper chain of
custody of ballots.


https://verityvote.us/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Maricopa-Chain-of-Custody-Failure.pdf
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: sneakypete on February 09, 2022, 02:43:29 pm
And NO ONE EVER is going to be charged with a federal crime,never mind arrested and convicted.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 07, 2022, 05:48:53 pm
BREAKING NEWS: Arizona Audit w/ @KelliWardAZ

AG @GeneralBrnovich has determined widespread FRAUD in the Maricopa County 2020 election.

Read the 12-page report here: https://t.co/3qea5k1jlD #AmericasAudit #SaveAmerica pic.twitter.com/6chgmOsklk— Republican Party of Arizona (@AZGOP) April 7, 2022
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 07, 2022, 05:52:37 pm
AG Brnovich Letter to Senate President Karen Fann RE: 2020 election
Interim Report, Apr 6, 2022


https://www.azag.gov/media/interest/ag-brnovich-letter-senate-president-karen-fann-re-2020-election
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 07, 2022, 06:06:46 pm
BREAKING NEWS: Arizona Audit w/ @KelliWardAZ

AG @GeneralBrnovich has determined widespread FRAUD in the Maricopa County 2020 election.

Read the 12-page report here: https://t.co/3qea5k1jlD #AmericasAudit #SaveAmerica pic.twitter.com/6chgmOsklk— Republican Party of Arizona (@AZGOP) April 7, 2022

As a lesson in contrast, look at this AP dispatch on the same story:

https://mohavedailynews.com/news/139166/arizona-ag-letter-offers-no-proof-of-2020-election-fraud/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on April 07, 2022, 06:26:54 pm
Enough fraud proven in Arizona, Wisconsin, and Georgia to overturn the results.  With those three states flipping, the electoral tally comes to 269-269.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 09, 2022, 10:45:07 am
As a lesson in contrast, look at this AP dispatch on the same story:

https://mohavedailynews.com/news/139166/arizona-ag-letter-offers-no-proof-of-2020-election-fraud/
Fewer than 200, when as many as 200,000 ballots were not properly handled?

AP is shilling for the fraudsters.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 02, 2022, 10:39:36 am
@Cyber Liberty See this:

BREAKING: Bombshell Presentation Reveals Identities Of Maricopa County Election Employees Who Deleted Files From Election Server BEFORE Maricopa County Audit

By Jordan Conradson, The Gateway Pundit, July 31, 2022

https://gellerreport.com/2022/08/non-stop-steal-here-are-the-identities-of-maricopa-county-election-employees-who-deleted-files-from-election-server-before-maricopa-county-audit.html/?lctg=112046815 (https://gellerreport.com/2022/08/non-stop-steal-here-are-the-identities-of-maricopa-county-election-employees-who-deleted-files-from-election-server-before-maricopa-county-audit.html/?lctg=112046815)
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: sneakypete on August 02, 2022, 01:36:15 pm
Sadly,this is going to get zero attention because "this is old news,and nobody cares anymore."

Remember,NOTHING is illegal unless a court determines it is illegal,and the left owns those judges.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Bigun on August 02, 2022, 02:21:15 pm
Sadly,this is going to get zero attention because "this is old news,and nobody cares anymore."

Remember,NOTHING is illegal unless a court determines it is illegal,and the left owns those judges.

The Arizona Legislature will likely have something to say on the matter @sneakypete
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on August 02, 2022, 02:30:13 pm
The Arizona Legislature will likely have something to say on the matter @sneakypete

The RINO Speaker won't permit it, and there are a couple of RINOs in the Senate who won't either.  So no.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Bigun on August 02, 2022, 02:44:56 pm
The RINO Speaker won't permit it, and there are a couple of RINOs in the Senate who won't either.  So no.

That is TRULY unfortunate @Cyber Liberty (We have the same problem in the Texas House. Senate is much better.)
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on October 20, 2022, 10:41:09 pm
Two Yuma Co. AZ Defendants INDICTED in Alleged 2020 Ballot Harvesting Scheme

Patty McMurray  |  Oct 20, 2022


AZ AG Mark Brnovich has announced that two people that are tied to an alleged 2020 ballot harvesting scheme in Yuma County, AZ, have been indicted. One of the women who’s been indicted is Gloria Lopez Torres, who is a current member of the San Luis Council.
Former San Luis Mayor Guillermina Fuentes—who was serving as a local school board member—and another woman, Alma Yadira Juarez, were sentenced last week for their role in the same 2020 ballot-harvesting scheme. Fuentes, a Democrat, was ordered on Oct. 13 to turn herself into the Yuma County Jail, said Brnovich.

Both Fuentes and Juarez pleaded guilty earlier this year to one count of ballot abuse.

Here is the AZ AG’s News Release:  https://www.azag.gov/press-release/two-defendants-indicted-alleged-yuma-county-ballot-harvesting-scheme

YUMA – Attorney General Mark Brnovich announced that Gloria Lopez Torres of San Luis, and Nadia Guadalupe Lizarraga-Mayorquin of San Luis, also known as Nadia Buchanan, have been charged by the State Grand Jury with Conspiracy and Ballot Abuse arising from an alleged “ballot harvesting” scheme where early ballots from other voters were collected and deposited into a ballot box on primary Election Day, August 4, 2020. The City of San Luis held municipal elections on that date.

The Grand Jury indictments, returned on October 3, 2022, allege that Torres collected seven ballots from Lizarraga-Mayorquin, and that Lizarraga-Mayorquin collected at least one ballot from a third party.

Arizona law only provides for a family member, household member, or caregiver of the voter to collect voted or unvoted early ballots from another person. Under Arizona law ballot harvesting is a class 6 felony.  .  .

https://100percentfedup.com/breaking-two-yuma-co-az-defendants-indicted-in-alleged-2020-ballot-harvesting-scheme/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Bigun on October 20, 2022, 10:45:14 pm
Two Yuma Co. AZ Defendants INDICTED in Alleged 2020 Ballot Harvesting Scheme

Patty McMurray  |  Oct 20, 2022


AZ AG Mark Brnovich has announced that two people that are tied to an alleged 2020 ballot harvesting scheme in Yuma County, AZ, have been indicted. One of the women who’s been indicted is Gloria Lopez Torres, who is a current member of the San Luis Council.
Former San Luis Mayor Guillermina Fuentes—who was serving as a local school board member—and another woman, Alma Yadira Juarez, were sentenced last week for their role in the same 2020 ballot-harvesting scheme. Fuentes, a Democrat, was ordered on Oct. 13 to turn herself into the Yuma County Jail, said Brnovich.

Both Fuentes and Juarez pleaded guilty earlier this year to one count of ballot abuse.

Here is the AZ AG’s News Release:  https://www.azag.gov/press-release/two-defendants-indicted-alleged-yuma-county-ballot-harvesting-scheme

YUMA – Attorney General Mark Brnovich announced that Gloria Lopez Torres of San Luis, and Nadia Guadalupe Lizarraga-Mayorquin of San Luis, also known as Nadia Buchanan, have been charged by the State Grand Jury with Conspiracy and Ballot Abuse arising from an alleged “ballot harvesting” scheme where early ballots from other voters were collected and deposited into a ballot box on primary Election Day, August 4, 2020. The City of San Luis held municipal elections on that date.

The Grand Jury indictments, returned on October 3, 2022, allege that Torres collected seven ballots from Lizarraga-Mayorquin, and that Lizarraga-Mayorquin collected at least one ballot from a third party.

Arizona law only provides for a family member, household member, or caregiver of the voter to collect voted or unvoted early ballots from another person. Under Arizona law ballot harvesting is a class 6 felony.  .  .

https://100percentfedup.com/breaking-two-yuma-co-az-defendants-indicted-in-alleged-2020-ballot-harvesting-scheme/

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: sneakypete on October 20, 2022, 11:52:13 pm
Should be interesting to see what sort of sentence they get.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on November 18, 2023, 06:28:53 pm
Former Maricopa County Elections Worker: Many Houses Had Exactly 25 Voters Registered, Other Anomalies

Rachel Alexander  |  November 17, 2023


A grassroots activist concerned about election fraud worked for Maricopa County Elections Department in signature verification for five weeks prior to the 2020 election. After she was fired for what she said she believes was asking too many questions, she continued to look into anomalies, such as signatures accepted on mail-in ballot affidavits that did not match the voters’ signatures on their voter registrations. The volunteer activist canvassed some of the homes with mismatching signatures after the 2020 general election looking for votes to cure on behalf of Trump Victory, a project of the Trump Campaign.

The volunteer discovered that many of them — which were generally modest homes in heavily Democratic areas — had exactly 25 people registered to vote at each address.

Shelby Busch, co-founder of We the People AZ Alliance, which has worked uncovering evidence of wrongdoing in the 2020 and 2022 elections, told The Arizona Sun Times, “Unfortunately, these stories are not isolated occurrences. We received similar reports all across the state of Arizona.”

Busch explained how her team found while preparing for Abe Hamadeh’s election lawsuit, “thousands of voters across the state who were disenfranchised from voting, many of whom never even knew their vote didn’t count. This includes people who showed up to vote and a ballot had already been received, people whose voter registrations were altered without their knowledge or consent and registered voters who didn’t even appear in the registration records,” she said.

The activist told The Sun Times about one small house in the West Valley where an elderly woman lived alone. Records showed there were 20 people registered to vote at that address. When the activist asked the woman about them, she said she recognized the name of one of them as her daughter’s boyfriend who lived “around the corner.” The homeowner’s mailbox was located outside of her fence, the canvasser noted, where anyone could easily open it and take out mail. The activist suspected that someone was deliberately using the woman’s home without her knowledge, taking advantage of the fact she was elderly and had an easily accessible mailbox, to ballot harvest.

At another house, the volunteer canvasser said that the resident admitted six of the people registered to vote there actually lived in Mexico.  .  .  .

https://arizonasuntimes.com/news/former-maricopa-county-elections-worker-many-houses-had-exactly-25-voters-registered-other-anomalies/ralexander/2023/11/17/
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Free Vulcan on November 18, 2023, 06:35:57 pm
Former Maricopa County Elections Worker: Many Houses Had Exactly 25 Voters Registered, Other Anomalies

Rachel Alexander  |  November 17, 2023


A grassroots activist concerned about election fraud worked for Maricopa County Elections Department in signature verification for five weeks prior to the 2020 election. After she was fired for what she said she believes was asking too many questions, she continued to look into anomalies, such as signatures accepted on mail-in ballot affidavits that did not match the voters’ signatures on their voter registrations. The volunteer activist canvassed some of the homes with mismatching signatures after the 2020 general election looking for votes to cure on behalf of Trump Victory, a project of the Trump Campaign.

The volunteer discovered that many of them — which were generally modest homes in heavily Democratic areas — had exactly 25 people registered to vote at each address.

I just wish somewhere along the line that Republicans could get elected to state office there and clean this all up.

Oh wait.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 19, 2023, 01:21:16 pm
I just wish somewhere along the line that Republicans could get elected to state office there and clean this all up.

Oh wait.
My question is how quickly this would all be peeled open if the Republicans resorted to similar tactics and 'won'?
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: roamer_1 on November 19, 2023, 08:13:47 pm
My question is how quickly this would all be peeled open if the Republicans resorted to similar tactics and 'won'?

Never wrestle with a pig...  :whistle:
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Smokin Joe on November 19, 2023, 08:20:18 pm
Never wrestle with a pig...  :whistle:
:beer:
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on November 19, 2023, 08:23:14 pm
I just wish somewhere along the line that Republicans could get elected to state office there and clean this all up.

Oh wait.

Hopefully, more and more people will come to the realization that the Republican Party treats them like chumps.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Hoodat on December 11, 2023, 05:29:00 am
At least 5,600 federal-only ballots cast in Arizona 2020 election without US citizenship proof

Natalia Mittelstadt  |  December 9, 2023  |  11:45pm


More than 5,600 federal-only ballots were cast in the 2020 presidential election in Arizona, without proof of U.S. citizenship required by the voters who cast them, according to data from the state's counties.

Arizona is a state with the unusual situation of bifurcated elections, in which residents who provide proof of U.S. citizenship can vote in all elections while the others may vote only in federal elections, resulting in ballots cast by voters who haven’t proven their U.S. citizenship.

Arizona law requires residents registering to vote in the state to provide proof of U.S. citizenship.

However, after the Supreme Court ruled in 2013 that Arizona must accept U.S. voter registration forms because of federal requirements under the 1993 National Voter Registration Act, the state allows residents registering to vote who don't provide proof of citizenship to receive ballots for federal races only.  .  .

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/least-5600-federal-only-ballots-cast-az-2020-general-election-without-us
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: sneakypete on December 11, 2023, 12:58:19 pm
Given the HUGE number of illegal aliens the left has allowed into America and the Dims have registered to vote,I wouldn't be surprised if that number weren't 3 times higher in the upcoming elections.

A few of them may even know they voted.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Bigun on December 19, 2023, 07:51:05 pm
https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1662893154977083395
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Free Vulcan on December 19, 2023, 08:08:59 pm
@Bigun

Well now that's an interesting turn.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: Cyber Liberty on December 19, 2023, 10:49:35 pm
https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1662893154977083395

This concerns the 2022 election, I believe, and this story is months old.  The original tweet was dated back in May.  No Earth was shattered, as this got ignored in court.
Title: Re: Arizona: Legal Updates
Post by: sneakypete on December 20, 2023, 01:51:20 am
https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1662893154977083395

@Bigun

Doesn't matter. The Dim officials that did  this could go on live tv and confess while laughing about it,and it would be ignored by the courts.

NOTHING is illegal until the law takes note of it,makes an arrest,and takes you to court. If you are a Dim with DNC connections,NOTHING is illegal.

IF,for political reasons because  there is an election coming up,that Hunter Biden is convicted of any of the multitudes of crimes he has committed,his daddy will give him a full pardon,and there is not  one single damn thing anyone can do to stop it because the entire DNC will back him up,and some of the alleged Republicans in office will go along with it "in order to heal the nation" or some such Bush.