The Briefing Room
General Category => Health/Education => Topic started by: flowers on December 21, 2015, 08:28:53 pm
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http://townhall.com/tipsheet/christinerousselle/2015/12/21/fda-lifts-ban-on-blood-donations-from-men-who-have-had-sex-with-men-n2095897
The Food and Drug Administration has lifted the ban on blood donations from men who have engaged in sexual relations with another man. Now, in order to donate blood, a man will have had to have been abstinent for the period of one year prior to donation.
BREAKING: FDA lifts formal ban on blood donations from gay men. New policy requires year of abstinence.
— The Associated Press (@AP) December 21, 2015
This new policy is similar to the deferral period for a woman who has engaged in sexual activity with a man who had previously sexual activity with another man, or for someone who has traveled to a country where malaria is prevalent.
The Food and Drug Administration released final rules on Monday that would allow gay and bisexual men to donate blood if they have been celibate for one year. Under previous rules, men who have had sex with men are banned from donating indefinitely.
“Ultimately, the 12-month deferral window is supported by the best available scientific evidence, at this point in time, relevant to the U.S. population. We will continue to actively conduct research in this area and
Wanna bet all the elite will have their own blood stash?
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I bet if they asked a homosexual man in need of a transfusion whether he'd like "gay" blood or blood from a heterosexual, he'd probably err on the side of caution.
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The science is settled...well, sort of.
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I don't know any gay men that can remain abstinent for a year.
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I don't know any gay men that can remain abstinent for a year.
Good point.
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I don't know any gay men that can remain abstinent for a year.
When you live a lie... lying becomes normal...
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They test donated blood for diseases before they give it to anybody.
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They test donated blood for diseases before they give it to anybody.
By "they"....do you mean somebody with the same general background as your typical TSA inspector in airports?
No, thank you.
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They test donated blood for diseases before they give it to anybody.
Warning! The following message contains snark:
The world comes to an end for someone told: no, you can't donate blood.
"Oh, the indignity. My life is now meaningless. I'm not allowed to donate blood! How will I go on living? What will I do, now?"
Political correctness is simply bizarre.
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By "they"....do you mean somebody with the same general background as your typical TSA inspector in airports?
No, thank you.
I don't know anything about the qualifications of the people that check the blood. It seems to me that it'd be a pretty big deal if they weren't doing a good job.
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Warning! The following message contains snark:
The world comes to an end for someone told: no, you can't donate blood.
"Oh, the indignity. My life is now meaningless. I'm not allowed to donate blood! How will I go on living? What will I do, now?"
Political correctness is simply bizarre.
Yeah, it's not a big deal, but from the perspective of gay people that know they're clean it probably does feel like an indignity. They want to help people that need help, same as everybody else that donates.
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Yeah, it's not a big deal, but from the perspective of gay people that know they're clean it probably does feel like an indignity. They want to help people that need help, same as everybody else that donates.
Sorry, I'm not buying it.
Someone's hurt feelings should not dictate public health policy.
Political correctness is the death of American greatness.
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I don't know anything about the qualifications of the people that check the blood. It seems to me that it'd be a pretty big deal if they weren't doing a good job.
Just like all other areas in government.....they never mess up. :smokin:
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I know gay people that lie and donate blood anyway. I imagine that is pretty common. I really don't think changing the rules will put the public in danger.
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I know gay people that lie and donate blood anyway. I imagine that is pretty common. I really don't think changing the rules will put the public in danger.
If you really know this and do not report it, then you are aiding and abetting criminals who put lives in danger by not notifying the authorities.
You sir... are scum...
HIV-Specific Criminal Laws (http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/policies/law/states/exposure.html)
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If you really know this and do not report it, then you are aiding and abetting criminals who put lives in danger by not notifying the authorities.
You sir... are scum...
HIV-Specific Criminal Laws (http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/policies/law/states/exposure.html)
:yawn2:
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If you really know this and do not report it, then you are aiding and abetting criminals who put lives in danger by not notifying the authorities.
You sir... are scum...
HIV-Specific Criminal Laws (http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/policies/law/states/exposure.html)
Unfortunately liberals have their own kind of sharia, they obey their laws first, then the laws the rest of us have to live by.
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If you really know this and do not report it, then you are aiding and abetting criminals who put lives in danger by not notifying the authorities.
You sir... are scum...
HIV-Specific Criminal Laws (http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/policies/law/states/exposure.html)
Please don't use personal attacks.
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Please don't use personal attacks.
Come on now! Since when is a simple statement of fact a personal attack?
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Come on now! Since when is a simple statement of fact a personal attack?
Seriously! I have always given that kid the benefit of the doubt here, but this is beyond the pale.
Statements on this forum about law-breaking are now protected speech?
If this kid is telling the truth here, then he needs to be called out as the SCUM that he is.
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Come on now! Since when is a simple statement of fact a personal attack?
I've been wrong a time or two. In an objective sense my wrongness never made me scum, just wrong.
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Okay, what I was trying to express was I don't support name calling, and I do respect forum rules.
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It seems to me that it'd be a pretty big deal if they weren't doing a good job.
It was. 1996 - 97, in fact, when the UK had to (for various reasons) import quite a substantial amount of blood from the USA. Our HIV and Hep C rate skyrocketed because the blood companies in the USA were drawing blood from felons and druggies (for payment) and not testing it, thanks to Clinton.
Do NOT let Liberals set public health policy.
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The person I'm apparently scum for not reporting served with me and died for his country in Iraq. It was still against the rules to be gay in the military at the time, so I guess I'm scum for not reporting that too. He broke the rules and donated because he knew he didn't have aids and he cared about his brothers. I was almost there already, but I think I'm finally done with this community. Good luck everybody.
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Wow......again a thread goes way off topic.
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Wow......again a thread goes way off topic.
...because of personal attack. Not cool.
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...because of personal attack. Not cool.
Nope not at all. Just for fun on another topic I waited to see how long it would take for that to happen. It took 2 min 30 secs.
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...because of personal attack. Not cool.
What is not cool is dying of AIDS because a gay guy donated blood when he wasn't supposed to...
Ever seen that? I have...
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What is not cool is dying of AIDS because a gay guy donated blood when he wasn't supposed to...
Ever seen that? I have...
Okay, I understand. But, you could've made the above point or a variation of it to Dexter, without adding the insult. Often, the sting of a rebuke can come from what is not said, rather than from what is said.
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I don't know any gay men that can remain abstinent for a year.
Do you know many heterosexual men who can? I don't unless it's forced on them.
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Do you know many heterosexual men who can? I don't unless it's forced on them.
Are you kidding me? I was married for 37 years before my divorce.
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The person I'm apparently scum for not reporting served with me and died for his country in Iraq. It was still against the rules to be gay in the military at the time, so I guess I'm scum for not reporting that too. He broke the rules and donated because he knew he didn't have aids and he cared about his brothers. I was almost there already, but I think I'm finally done with this community. Good luck everybody.
Sorry to see you go. You are among the last of the reasonable conservatives here. GBR has turned into FR, with most posters castigating anyone who strays off the far-right extremist reservation. You are SCUM, Dexter, to posters who can barely tie their own shoes.
And the worst of it is that the comment trashing you will stand. Had I called somebody "scum" I would be banned. But, a slap on the wrist is all that's given for that remark.
I hate to see you go. I'm on ignore to most except the mods so I still have to mind my manners, but nobody else seems to have to.
Oh well. If you're not a Trumpie or a Cruzite, you don't belong here anyway and I notice that there are fewer and fewer people posting.
Hope to see you back in some way. It's a shame you're run off when you're standing up for a friend who just wants to do good for other people.
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...to posters who can barely tie their own shoes.
Just can't help it can you Sink?
Merry Christmas!
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Just can't help it can you Sink?
Merry Christmas!
Tell that to the poster who labeled Dexter "Scum." I notice you had no concern over that and that Dexter has decided to leave us.
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GBR has turned into FR, with most posters castigating anyone who strays off the far-right extremist reservation.
I concur it has trended closer and closer to FR, and that is disappointing. People that I most enjoyed reading have left, or only rarely drop in.
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You are SCUM, Dexter, to posters who can barely tie their own shoes.
Another day, another thread, another personal attack.
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Another day, another thread, another personal attack.
I looked. No "personal attack" from you on Gourmet Dan.
Why is that?
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I looked. No "personal attack" from you on Gourmet Dan.
Why is that?
Gourmet Dan doesn't generally engage in personal attackes.
It was obvious from the post he simply lost control due to the nature of the subject and the personal connection that he had to it.
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Gourmet Dan doesn't generally engage in personal attackes.
It was obvious from the post he simply lost control due to the nature of the subject and the personal connection that he had to it.
Quite right, Aligncare. This other guy, however, is nothing but personal attacks, and behavior like that explains, "I concur it has trended closer and closer to FR, and that is disappointing. People that I most enjoyed reading have left, or only rarely drop in."
Mystery, please take note.
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Gourmet Dan doesn't generally engage in personal attackes.
It was obvious from the post he simply lost control due to the nature of the subject and the personal connection that he had to it.
So "scum" is an appropriate response to a poster like Dexter as long as the poster "loses control"?
Did you type that with a straight face?
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Quite right, Aligncare. This other guy, however, is nothing but personal attacks, and behavior like that explains, "I concur it has trended closer and closer to FR, and that is disappointing. People that I most enjoyed reading have left, or only rarely drop in."
Mystery, please take note.
Mad when we comment, mad when we don't comment. Mad, mad, mad.
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So "scum" is an appropriate response to a poster like Dexter as long as the poster "loses control"?
Did you type that with a straight face?
I was just noting that it was an uncharacteristic loss of control. That it's not typical to Dan's behavior. While others make it a sport, Dan merely made an error in decorum. Distinguishing between the two I'm happy to leave up to management. Incidentally, I wouldn't want myst's job, trying to referee this place through the next year of this particularly unusual primary election.
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The person I'm apparently scum for not reporting served with me and died for his country in Iraq. It was still against the rules to be gay in the military at the time, so I guess I'm scum for not reporting that too. He broke the rules and donated because he knew he didn't have aids and he cared about his brothers. I was almost there already, but I think I'm finally done with this community. Good luck everybody.
I don't give a rat's behind if it was Jesus Christ, Himself that served and died in Iraq. You should have mentioned him upfront.
This way we'd all have to admit that indeed, there are extenuating circumstances and profiles out there.
Instead you decided to use it as an Ace of Trump...no pun intended...to pour gilt over people who, on the face of your own statement,...that you knowingly withheld information that could have placed the public-at-large, in danger.
Something to think about....
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Mad when we comment, mad when we don't comment. Mad, mad, mad.
I still find it amazing in that how much you hate Trump, you mimic his style to a T. It's like you've copied his persona, even if you come off far less likeable. This post is the perfect example.
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It is possible to discuss politics and even to disagree strenuously without engaging in name-calling. Dan, sink - please don't do it again.
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Sorry to see you go. You are among the last of the reasonable conservatives here. GBR has turned into FR, with most posters castigating anyone who strays off the far-right extremist reservation. You are SCUM, Dexter, to posters who can barely tie their own shoes.
And the worst of it is that the comment trashing you will stand. Had I called somebody "scum" I would be banned. But, a slap on the wrist is all that's given for that remark.
I hate to see you go. I'm on ignore to most except the mods so I still have to mind my manners, but nobody else seems to have to.
Oh well. If you're not a Trumpie or a Cruzite, you don't belong here anyway and I notice that there are fewer and fewer people posting.
Hope to see you back in some way. It's a shame you're run off when you're standing up for a friend who just wants to do good for other people.
GBR has turned into FR,
I wonder why :whistle:
I'm on ignore to most except the mods so I still have to mind my manners
Doesn't that tell you something sink...are you proud of that?
Oh well. If you're not a Trumpie or a Cruzite, you don't belong here anyway and I notice that there are fewer and fewer people posting.
BS...it is YOU sink who has driven people off!..I have the pms to prove it!
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I see it this way. I cannot control the outcome of events--for example, who wins the nomination. Events will transpire as they will, regardless of whether I approve or not.
Acting like a jerk to my friends because I see things differently is not in my nature.
I have no problem with sink acting as he does because he hates Donald Trump. But, I personally would find more diplomatic ways to disagree and make the point why I'm right.
We all choose our own path anyway.
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I'm sorry Dexter we just now caught Dan's comment...please file a abuse report when something like this happens..
I have been very busy trying to balance TBR and homelife getting ready for Christmas with family coming in today.
Everybody...
Please try a little Christmas spirit for a few days and when I get back full force..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ZgVRJ-H8U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ZgVRJ-H8U)
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I was just noting that it was an uncharacteristic loss of control. That it's not typical to Dan's behavior. While others make it a sport, Dan merely made an error in decorum.
I agree. not typical Dan behavior.
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They test donated blood for diseases before they give it to anybody.
A number of those diseases (especially HIV) take months to incubate in the body before they'll show up with a positive result on a screening test.