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Title: Emails of six other prominent IRS officials have also gone missing
Post by: flowers on June 17, 2014, 03:39:32 pm
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URGENT per Fox's @ChadPergram - "Fox has also learned that the emails of six other prominent IRS officials have also gone missing."
Title: Re: Emails of six other prominent IRS officials have also gone missing
Post by: Oceander on June 17, 2014, 05:45:30 pm
latest on IRS Lois Lerner missing emails (http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2014/06/17/latest-on-irs-lois-lerner-missing-emails/)

From FNC Chad Pergram:

IRS knew Lerner emails went missing in February


Per Pergram-Capitol Hill

Fox has learned that the IRS knew it didn’t have all emails connected to Lois Lerner as far back as February of this year.

This comes as IRS Commissioner John Koskinen told lawmakers in May the service would provide all emails.

Fox has also learned that the emails of six other prominent IRS officials have also gone missing. Among them are emails connected with Nikole Flax, who was Chief of Staff to Acting IRS Commissioner Steve Miller.

It is believed her emails disappeared over a year-long period starting December 15, 2011.

Chad Pergram

FOX News

Senior Producer for Capitol Hill
Title: Re: Emails of six other prominent IRS officials have also gone missing
Post by: massadvj on June 17, 2014, 06:46:44 pm
At least the people in this administration are consistent.  Whenever confronted with the option of admitting they are evil versus admitting they are incompetent, they opt for incompetence.  Funny.  By sheer coincidence, incompetence doesn't seem to be impeachable, whereas evil is.
Title: Re: Emails of six other prominent IRS officials have also gone missing
Post by: Oceander on June 17, 2014, 07:39:18 pm
At least the people in this administration are consistent.  Whenever confronted with the option of admitting they are evil versus admitting they are incompetent, they opt for incompetence.  Funny.  By sheer coincidence, incompetence doesn't seem to be impeachable, whereas evil is.


true, but then again, incompetence is a much easier sell to the non-aligned voters than is evil and impeachment.
Title: Re: Emails of six other prominent IRS officials have also gone missing
Post by: mountaineer on June 17, 2014, 07:41:52 pm
Emails have senders and recipients. Who are the senders, and who are the recipients of all of these "missing" emails? It seems to me that the other (non-IRS official) party - whether sender or recipient - might be able to provide the "missing" information. Yeah, you'd think.
Title: Re: Emails of six other prominent IRS officials have also gone missing
Post by: EC on June 17, 2014, 07:50:16 pm
You are bringing logic to Obamaland. It don't work.
Title: Re: Emails of six other prominent IRS officials have also gone missing
Post by: Oceander on June 17, 2014, 08:21:49 pm
Emails have senders and recipients. Who are the senders, and who are the recipients of all of these "missing" emails? It seems to me that the other (non-IRS official) party - whether sender or recipient - might be able to provide the "missing" information. Yeah, you'd think.


I think these are intra-agency emails, so most likely the accounts of both sender and recipient(s) have been scrubbed.
Title: Re: Emails of six other prominent IRS officials have also gone missing
Post by: mountaineer on June 17, 2014, 08:24:50 pm

I think these are intra-agency emails, so most likely the accounts of both sender and recipient(s) have been scrubbed.
In theory, this could be hundreds of email accounts. How incredibly convenient.
Title: Re: Emails of six other prominent IRS officials have also gone missing
Post by: Oceander on June 17, 2014, 08:28:20 pm
In theory, this could be hundreds of email accounts. How incredibly convenient.

You start with the knowns - their email accounts - and for each email you wish to redact you cull the recipient(s) email accounts for that email and then search each account for forwards or replies that went to someone other than those listed on the initial email.  Just to be sure, you would build a list of all email accounts that were involved in any one of the emails you wish to redact; you would then go through each account searching for anything that's approximately like the emails you're trying to erase - that will probably result in several thousand emails, many of them not germane to the target.  you would then have live eyes go through each captured email to sort the wheat from the chaff.
Title: Re: Emails of six other prominent IRS officials have also gone missing
Post by: Chieftain on June 17, 2014, 09:16:02 pm
At least the people in this administration are consistent.  Whenever confronted with the option of admitting they are evil versus admitting they are incompetent, they opt for incompetence.  Funny.  By sheer coincidence, incompetence doesn't seem to be impeachable, whereas evil is.

I'm not sure it is incompetence.  All of those missing emails on the IRS servers went someplace else, and it is those that tell part of this tale as well.  This is not evil, and it is not incompetence.  This is deliberate damage control and obfuscation.  The more time that passes, the dimmer these events appear and are more easily manipulated with political spin. 

Drag it out as long as possible, flood the investigators with as much useless paper as possible, brag about how many tens of thousands of pages of "data" you have released, and double-damn the Republicans for buying so much wasted paper with the hardworking taxpayer's dollar...

So it goes, deliberately.

 :smokin:
Title: Re: Emails of six other prominent IRS officials have also gone missing
Post by: massadvj on June 17, 2014, 09:28:30 pm
I'm not sure it is incompetence.  All of those missing emails on the IRS servers went someplace else, and it is those that tell part of this tale as well.  This is not evil, and it is not incompetence.  This is deliberate damage control and obfuscation.  The more time that passes, the dimmer these events appear and are more easily manipulated with political spin. 

Drag it out as long as possible, flood the investigators with as much useless paper as possible, brag about how many tens of thousands of pages of "data" you have released, and double-damn the Republicans for buying so much wasted paper with the hardworking taxpayer's dollar...

So it goes, deliberately.

 :smokin:

My original post was intended as sarcasm.  I guess that didn't come through.  In truth, I agree with you that "This is deliberate damage control and obfuscation."  However, I would add that it is being done to hide evil.
Title: Re: Emails of six other prominent IRS officials have also gone missing
Post by: andy58-in-nh on June 17, 2014, 10:06:26 pm
Is it entirely useless to point out that if any previous Administration had been involved in this kind of behavior (and that goes for both parties) all Hell would have broken loose?
 
Now, thanks to the efforts of the Obama Syndicate, we just shrug off the effects of once again having been mugged, assume that the news media won't give a shit, and move on to the outrage that awaits around the next corner.
Title: Re: Emails of six other prominent IRS officials have also gone missing
Post by: katzenjammer on June 17, 2014, 10:22:13 pm
Is it entirely useless to point out that if any previous Administration had been involved in this kind of behavior (and that goes for both parties) all Hell would have broken loose?
 
Now, thanks to the efforts of the Obama Syndicate, we just shrug off the effects of once again having been mugged, assume that the news media won't give a shit, and move on to the outrage that awaits around the next corner.

rangerrebew posted this the other day, it didn't get a lot of attention, Ann Barnhardt: Why I’m Considering Quitting (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,140571.msg574271.html#msg574271)

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And each day there is a new crime, and the frequency of the crimes themselves is the means by which they keep you distracted and wallowing in what I can only describe as a masturbatory impotence driven by a false fantasy of your own “outrage”.  Your “outrage” is no more real than the pornographic fantasies people use to masturbate sexually.  And every 36 hours – like clockwork – you are handed a new vector for your “outrage” fetish, and the previous one, no longer capable of sustaining the proverbial erection, is forgotten as quickly as it was introduced.  Because THIS ONE, this new “outrage”, this is going to be THE ONE, this is going to be the “outrage orgasm” to end all outrage orgasms, and they’re all going to resign, and then it’s going to be “Morning in America” and it’s going to feel just like it did when we were kids forever.

Your post brought it to mind.  As usual, Ann pricks the conscience, very well.  We just jump from one dose of "outrage porn" to the next one, as she says, like clockwork.