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Title: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: mystery-ak on April 26, 2017, 05:27:12 pm
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Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
By John Bowden - 04/26/17 01:17 PM EDT

Conservative author and speaker Ann Coulter has canceled a fought-over appearance she was set to make Thursday at the University of California, Berkeley.

"There will be no speech," she told The New York Times and Reuters on Wednesday.

She said the conservative groups sponsoring her remarks withdrew their support on Tuesday, citing security concerns.

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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/330680-ann-coulter-cancels-berkeley-speech-due-to-riot-concerns

the little fascists have won again..
Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: geronl on April 26, 2017, 05:57:25 pm
the little fascists have won again..

commies won, fascists lost
Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: Joe Wooten on April 26, 2017, 06:11:19 pm
commies won, fascists lost

No, the fascists in question ARE communists. There ain't a difference between them worth mentioning....
Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: endicom on April 26, 2017, 06:12:27 pm
the little fascists have won again..


Maybe not. The squadristi have shown what they are without Coulter having to say a thing.
Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: geronl on April 26, 2017, 06:13:16 pm
Ann Coulter is Big Bird
Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: jmyrlefuller on April 26, 2017, 06:47:31 pm
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She said the conservative groups sponsoring her remarks withdrew their support on Tuesday, citing security concerns.
So she has no problem going on campus without the campus permission, but she'll chicken out if she doesn't have "conservative groups" supporting her in the shadows?

That, ladies and gents, is chicken.
Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: Sanguine on April 26, 2017, 07:00:27 pm
Yes, I'm surprised Coulter chickened out.  I thought she really enjoys confrontation.
Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: Just_Victor on April 26, 2017, 07:01:43 pm
Ann Coulter is Big Bird

This isn't really about whether or not we like Ann Coulter.  It's about whether or not we are going to let the left's threats of violence, and the powers that be at Berzerkeley, get away with silencing voices they disagree with in violation of the 1st Amendment.
Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: Just_Victor on April 26, 2017, 07:03:31 pm
Yes, I'm surprised Coulter chickened out.  I thought she really enjoys confrontation.

The Young Americans Foundation which was sponsoring Ann's appearance, backed out because they really didn't want anyone to get hurt.
Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: Cripplecreek on April 26, 2017, 07:07:57 pm
Ann Coulter is Big Bird

She's manipulative charlatan and this "Help help I'm being oppressed" is part of her game. She was happily setting fire to the bridges behind Trump and she can go to hell.
Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: guitar4jesus on April 26, 2017, 07:12:56 pm
She's manipulative charlatan and this "Help help I'm being oppressed" is part of her game. She was happily setting fire to the bridges behind Trump and she can go to hell.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/crutch999/PepperidgeFarmGuy-Aaaayup_zpsll1ga64i.jpg)
Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: truth_seeker on April 26, 2017, 07:17:24 pm
This isn't really about whether or not we like Ann Coulter.  It's about whether or not we are going to let the left's threats of violence, and the powers that be at Berzerkeley, get away with silencing voices they disagree with in violation of the 1st Amendment.

Precisely. I would pay to attend events  in public venues, to listen to Conservative speakers. Libertarians, too.

Maybe people like Levin, Coulter and others with Heritage-type organizations, rent the ball stadiums, and give their pitches.

Or they can just bitch about it.

 

Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 26, 2017, 08:11:36 pm
"Heckler's Veto." 

Expect to see a lot more of this, now that's it's a proven winner.
Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: geronl on April 26, 2017, 09:41:21 pm
"Heckler's Veto." 


Trumpers got a lot of practice with that
Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 26, 2017, 09:46:22 pm
 11513

Most of us are pretty tired of the act. 
Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 27, 2017, 08:06:36 am
So she has no problem going on campus without the campus permission, but she'll chicken out if she doesn't have "conservative groups" supporting her in the shadows?

That, ladies and gents, is chicken.
Sponsoring groups were likely the ones writing the check, the honorarium.

No free lunch.
Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 27, 2017, 08:11:48 am
This isn't really about whether or not we like Ann Coulter.  It's about whether or not we are going to let the left's threats of violence, and the powers that be at Berzerkeley, get away with silencing voices they disagree with in violation of the 1st Amendment.
I agree. It will, unfortunately, likely take a vicious confrontation or law enforcement ready to rumble with the Left, in order to dispossess the Left of their delusion that this can continue. Either that or it will continue.

Ann's supposed to be an attorney. I'd be looking into who the ringleaders of the threatening group are and looking to have them prosecuted under 42 U.S. Code § 1985 (conspiracy to deprive someone of a civil right) or sue them for losses of speaking fees. She should have standing because she can show a loss of income.
Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: Doug Loss on April 27, 2017, 10:32:17 am
You haven't seen this in the MSM, but the rally is still on, just without Ann Coulter:

Help Defend Free Speech in Berkeley (https://www.oathkeepers.org/help-defend-free-speech-berkeley/)
Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: pjohns on April 27, 2017, 06:02:18 pm
It does seem rather ironic that this all took place at UC-Berkeley: the very home of the free-speech movement (1964-65).

Evidently, however, liberals believe strongly in free speech--just as long as it is limited to themselves, and their fellow liberals.

But that begs the question: Why?

It is really not that difficult to answer.

Progressives (a.k.a. liberals) believe in the natural progression of philosophical thought. Given this assumption, therefore, conservatives are not merely wrong; they are actually illegitimate, as they stand as impediments to this "natural progression."

We conservatives, on the other hand, simply see liberals as being wrong.

I suppose it does make some sort of sense--twisted, though it may be--for liberals to reject the legitimacy of us "impediments" to their posited utopia...
Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: Sanguine on April 27, 2017, 06:07:05 pm
It does seem rather ironic that this all took place at UC-Berkeley: the very home of the free-speech movement (1964-65).

Evidently, however, liberals believe strongly in free speech--just as long as it is limited to themselves, and their fellow liberals.

But that begs the question: Why?

It is really not that difficult to answer.

Progressives (a.k.a. liberals) believe in the natural progression of philosophical thought. Given this assumption, therefore, conservatives are not merely wrong; they are actually illegitimate, as they stand as impediments to this "natural progression."

We conservatives, on the other hand, simply see liberals as being wrong.

I suppose it does make some sort of sense--twisted, though it may be--for liberals to reject the legitimacy of us "impediments" to their posited utopia...

That does make sense though I suspect that most of them are not very deep thinkers and reject us on a more visceral level.
Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: Cyber Liberty on April 27, 2017, 06:27:18 pm
That does make sense though I suspect that most of them are not very deep thinkers and reject us on a more visceral level.

Most can't get deeper than "basket of deplorables."  Those who think they can just call us "evil."
Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: Maj. Bill Martin on April 27, 2017, 06:31:35 pm
@Smokin Joe

Ann's supposed to be an attorney. I'd be looking into who the ringleaders of the threatening group are and looking to have them prosecuted under 42 U.S. Code § 1985 (conspiracy to deprive someone of a civil right) or sue them for losses of speaking fees. She should have standing because she can show a loss of income.

I'm not aware of any Section 1985 claims being brought on something like this, but I think it is something worth pursuing.  There's a decision from the 80's, Scott v. Carpenters (or something like that) which made it difficult to bring these kind of claims that didn't involve state action.  But maybe what needs to happen is for Congress to pass an additional civil rights law permitting prosecutions for private citizens attempting to prevent, through violence, lawful assemblies by others.
Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 27, 2017, 10:46:46 pm
It does seem rather ironic that this all took place at UC-Berkeley: the very home of the free-speech movement (1964-65).

Evidently, however, liberals believe strongly in free speech--just as long as it is limited to themselves, and their fellow liberals.

But that begs the question: Why?

It is really not that difficult to answer.

Progressives (a.k.a. liberals) believe in the natural progression of philosophical thought. Given this assumption, therefore, conservatives are not merely wrong; they are actually illegitimate, as they stand as impediments to this "natural progression."

We conservatives, on the other hand, simply see liberals as being wrong.

I suppose it does make some sort of sense--twisted, though it may be--for liberals to reject the legitimacy of us "impediments" to their posited utopia...
That problem arises when "Truth" is subjective, as it is for Liberals.
Conservatives believe in absolute and immutable truth, which applies regardless of the trimmings.
That is the mortal enemy of the whole progressive concept.
Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: Hondo69 on April 27, 2017, 11:08:41 pm
That problem arises when "Truth" is subjective, as it is for Liberals.
Conservatives believe in absolute and immutable truth, which applies regardless of the trimmings.
That is the mortal enemy of the whole progressive concept.

Just a thought . . . What if these protestors were wrapped in robes screaming Alah Akbar?

Outside appearances would be different, but beyond that there wouldn't be much difference.  They only believe what they believe and not the Constitution, state law, federal law or the Bill of Rights will get in their way.  What we're witnessing is essentially Sharia Law in different packaging.
Title: Re: Ann Coulter cancels Berkeley speech over campus safety concerns
Post by: Smokin Joe on April 27, 2017, 11:36:43 pm
Just a thought . . . What if these protestors were wrapped in robes screaming Alah Akbar?

Outside appearances would be different, but beyond that there wouldn't be much difference.  They only believe what they believe and not the Constitution, state law, federal law or the Bill of Rights will get in their way.  What we're witnessing is essentially Sharia Law in different packaging.
Yep. Sharia is based not just on the Quran, but how it is interpreted by the Imams and Mullahs. It is what they say it is. The book may be protected by the admonition that any changes are punishable by death, but the interpretation is wide open.