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Title: California Lawmakers Ready to Consider Slavery Reparations
Post by: mystery-ak on August 30, 2020, 05:30:11 pm
Simon Kent 30 Aug 2020

State senators in California overwhelmingly voted Saturday to endorse setting up a task force to study potential payment of reparations to black Americans whose ancestors were enslaved.

The state Senate supported creating the nine-member commission on a bipartisan 33-3 vote. The measure returns to the Assembly for a final vote before lawmakers adjourn for the year on Monday, though Assembly members overwhelmingly already approved an earlier version of the bill.

“Let’s be clear: Chattel slavery, both in California and across our nation, birthed a legacy of racial harm and inequity that continues to impact the conditions of Black life in California,” said Democratic Sen. Holly Mitchell of Los Angeles.

The call comes just two weeks after Duke University economist William Darity Jr. and his wife Kirsten Mullen released a co-authored report proposing $12 trillion in reparations, as Breitbart News reported.

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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/30/california-lawmakers-ready-to-consider-slavery-reparations/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/30/california-lawmakers-ready-to-consider-slavery-reparations/)
Title: Re: California Lawmakers Ready to Consider Slavery Reparations
Post by: Idiot on August 30, 2020, 06:04:18 pm
Simon Kent 30 Aug 2020

State senators in California overwhelmingly voted Saturday to endorse setting up a task force to study potential payment of reparations to black Americans whose ancestors were enslaved.

The state Senate supported creating the nine-member commission on a bipartisan 33-3 vote. The measure returns to the Assembly for a final vote before lawmakers adjourn for the year on Monday, though Assembly members overwhelmingly already approved an earlier version of the bill.

“Let’s be clear: Chattel slavery, both in California and across our nation, birthed a legacy of racial harm and inequity that continues to impact the conditions of Black life in California,” said Democratic Sen. Holly Mitchell of Los Angeles.

The call comes just two weeks after Duke University economist William Darity Jr. and his wife Kirsten Mullen released a co-authored report proposing $12 trillion in reparations, as Breitbart News reported.

more
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/30/california-lawmakers-ready-to-consider-slavery-reparations/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/30/california-lawmakers-ready-to-consider-slavery-reparations/)
Oh good....this ought to work out well.  *****rollingeyes*****
Title: Re: California Lawmakers Ready to Consider Slavery Reparations
Post by: skeeter on August 30, 2020, 06:22:25 pm
Slavery was never a thing in CA.

I'm trying to hang in here, I really am.

But they are determined to drive me out.
Title: Re: California Lawmakers Ready to Consider Slavery Reparations
Post by: DB on August 30, 2020, 06:39:18 pm
Slavery was never a thing in CA.

I'm trying to hang in here, I really am.

But they are determined to drive me out.

You're the host of their leaching. The writing has been on the wall for some time. The more hosts that leave the fewer they can suck dry. California is going to have a reckoning and it won't be pretty.
Title: Re: California Lawmakers Ready to Consider Slavery Reparations
Post by: Hoodat on August 30, 2020, 07:09:20 pm
I have reevaluated my position on reparations and now support it..  Under the leadership of Abraham Lincoln and Edwin Stanton, reparations were promised and agreed upon by a group of black leaders in Savannah, GA.  But when Andrew Johnson took over, he renegged on that promise.

In corporate law, if a corporate entity under one CEO reaches a binding agreement for a financial payout, and then a future CEO renegs on that agreement, then the corporation itself is not liable.  However,  the board of.directors can be held liable because they are responsible for the actions of the new CEO.

Andrew Johnson was the new CEO. His board of directors was the Democrat Party.  Any obligations for reparations under the original 'Forty acres and a mule' agreement falls squarely upon them.
Title: Re: California Lawmakers Ready to Consider Slavery Reparations
Post by: Idiot on August 30, 2020, 07:15:11 pm
I have reevaluated my position on reparations and now support it..  Under the leadership of Abraham Lincoln and Edwin Stanton, reparations were promised and agreed upon by a group of black leaders in Savannah, GA.  But when Andrew Johnson took over, he renegged on that promise.

In corporate law, if a corporate entity under one CEO reaches a binding agreement for a financial payout, and then a future CEO renegs on that agreement, then the corporation itself is not liable.  However,  the board of.directors can be held liable because they are responsible for the actions of the new CEO.

Andrew Johnson was the new CEO. His board of directors was the Democrat Party.  Any obligations for reparations under the original 'Forty acres and a mule' agreement falls squarely upon them.
Can you imagine what 40 acres and  mule would cost now?  40 acres of pasture here is around $2000 an acre, the mule....maybe $500 plus?  So under $100k per person.  What a deal.....
Title: Re: California Lawmakers Ready to Consider Slavery Reparations
Post by: PeteS in CA on August 30, 2020, 10:18:33 pm
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“Let’s be clear: Chattel slavery, both in California and across our nation, birthed a legacy of racial harm and inequity that continues to impact the conditions of Black life in California,” said Democratic Sen. Holly Mitchell of Los Angeles.

Slavery was never a thing in CA.
...

California was a free state from day 1. I'm pretty sure slavery was illegal in Mexico and therefore illegal in the 30 years or so before California became US territory. I'm not sure about during Spanish rule, but I doubt it was legal before Mexico became independent.

It's pathetic that a State Senator actually thinks slavery was ever legal in California.
Title: California Lawmakers Ready to Consider Slavery Reparations
Post by: rangerrebew on August 31, 2020, 09:24:32 am
California Lawmakers Ready to Consider Slavery Reparations

(breitbart) – State senators in California overwhelmingly voted Saturday to endorse setting up a task force to study potential payment of reparations to black Americans whose ancestors were enslaved.

The state Senate supported creating the nine-member commission on a bipartisan 33-3 vote. The measure returns to the Assembly for a final vote before lawmakers adjourn for the year on Monday, though Assembly members overwhelmingly already approved an earlier version of the bill.

“Let’s be clear: Chattel slavery, both in California and across our nation, birthed a legacy of racial harm and inequity that continues to impact the conditions of Black life in California,” said Democratic Sen. Holly Mitchell of Los Angeles.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/30/california-lawmakers-ready-to-consider-slavery-reparations/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/30/california-lawmakers-ready-to-consider-slavery-reparations/)
Title: Re: California Lawmakers Ready to Consider Slavery Reparations
Post by: 240B on August 31, 2020, 10:49:41 am
The way things are going, there won't be anyone left in California who is capable of paying it.
They are losing wealth and businesses as fast or faster than NYC.
Soon, very soon, the entire State will be a desolate bankrupt Detroit.
Title: California Lawmakers Ready to Consider Slavery Reparations
Post by: Idiot on August 31, 2020, 02:31:00 pm
California Lawmakers Ready to Consider Slavery Reparations

(breitbart) – State senators in California overwhelmingly voted Saturday to endorse setting up a task force to study potential payment of reparations to black Americans whose ancestors were enslaved.

The state Senate supported creating the nine-member commission on a bipartisan 33-3 vote. The measure returns to the Assembly for a final vote before lawmakers adjourn for the year on Monday, though Assembly members overwhelmingly already approved an earlier version of the bill.

“Let’s be clear: Chattel slavery, both in California and across our nation, birthed a legacy of racial harm and inequity that continues to impact the conditions of Black life in California,” said Democratic Sen. Holly Mitchell of Los Angeles.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/30/california-lawmakers-ready-to-consider-slavery-reparations/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/30/california-lawmakers-ready-to-consider-slavery-reparations/)
Bipartisan?...lol....uh huh.
Title: Re: California Lawmakers Ready to Consider Slavery Reparations
Post by: Mod5 on August 31, 2020, 04:24:40 pm
@rangerrebew please stop using these unethical clickbait sites that copy other sites work while changing the original title and not including a functional link! These clickbait sites are violating copyrights and posting "their" articles here puts TBR in jeopardy and makes work for cranky Mods like me.
Title: Re: California Lawmakers Ready to Consider Slavery Reparations
Post by: Hoodat on August 31, 2020, 04:50:19 pm
You're the host of their leaching. The writing has been on the wall for some time.

Ayn Rand wrote a book about it.
Title: Re: California Lawmakers Ready to Consider Slavery Reparations
Post by: sneakypete on August 31, 2020, 05:03:00 pm
California was a free state from day 1. I'm pretty sure slavery was illegal in Mexico and therefore illegal in the 30 years or so before California became US territory. I'm not sure about during Spanish rule, but I doubt it was legal before Mexico became independent.

It's pathetic that a State Senator actually thinks slavery was ever legal in California.

@PeteS in CA

The Spanish,and the Catholic Church,were HUGE fans of slavery. They wiped out several native tribes in the Carribean due to working them to death and not treating the sick,and then started importing slaves from Africa to replace them. They also had slaves in what is known as Florida these days.

The English Colonies were still "slave free" at that time.
Title: Re: California Lawmakers Ready to Consider Slavery Reparations
Post by: Hoodat on August 31, 2020, 05:25:07 pm
Mexico abolished slavery in 1810.  Spain followed suit a decade later.  Spain had already prohibited the enslavement of Native Americans three centuries earlier.

Any claims of reparations against the United States are without merit.  Reparations were agreed upon in 1865.  Andrew Johnson rescinded that agreement solely on behalf of his Party, and it is his Party alone that bears any and all liability for such claims.
Title: Re: California Lawmakers Ready to Consider Slavery Reparations
Post by: sneakypete on August 31, 2020, 05:34:33 pm
Mexico abolished slavery in 1810.  Spain followed suit a decade later.  Spain had already prohibited the enslavement of Native Americans three centuries earlier.



@Hoodat

Natives of the Caribbean obviously do not count as "Native Americans".

Natives of SOUTH America SHOULD be counted,and obviously weren't  wherever you got your data from. The Spanish worked them to death in their mines. Whole tribes disappeared.
Title: Re: California Lawmakers Ready to Consider Slavery Reparations
Post by: Hoodat on August 31, 2020, 06:45:09 pm
@sneakypete

Laws of Burgos - 1512 (https://www.britannica.com/topic/Laws-of-Burgos)
Title: Re: California Lawmakers Ready to Consider Slavery Reparations
Post by: Hoodat on August 31, 2020, 06:46:32 pm
Eighty percent of the slaves traded out of Africa ended up in the Caribbean or South America.  Only 12% made it to North America.
Title: Re: California Lawmakers Ready to Consider Slavery Reparations
Post by: PeteS in CA on August 31, 2020, 07:50:37 pm
@Hoodat

Natives of the Caribbean obviously do not count as "Native Americans".

Natives of SOUTH America SHOULD be counted,and obviously weren't  wherever you got your data from. The Spanish worked them to death in their mines. Whole tribes disappeared.

"Native Americans" is quicker, easier, and less klutzy to say than "indigenous people of the Caribbean Sea and Gulf of Mexico". And despite your "correction" you clearly understood Hoodat's meaning.