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Title: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: libertybele on May 21, 2019, 11:29:21 pm
Fair question.  WHY??

Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?

..........“The laws are there, the rules are there, the people are there; they need to be allowed to do their jobs,” says Vara. He was one of the top officials dealing both with the Nicaraguan asylum influx in 1989 and the Hatians and Cubans in the 1990s. He believes there is no reason existing law can’t be marshalled the way it was then. It’s all politics, in his view.

What about the concerns of foreign terrorists, health, and espionage? Vara explains that, contrary to what the government is telling us, we are not properly vetting them out even at points of entry. ............

https://omny.fm/shows/the-conservative-conscience-with-daniel-horowitz-1/top-veteran-immigration-officer-why-is-government
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: austingirl on May 22, 2019, 12:02:28 am
Because we don't have a wall and we won't shoot them? :shrug:
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: libertybele on May 22, 2019, 12:23:55 am
Because we don't have a wall and we won't shoot them? :shrug:

That too as well as corruption, drug money, and self-serving political motivation.
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: austingirl on May 22, 2019, 12:28:05 am
That too as well as corruption, drug money, and self-serving political motivation.

I wonder how many of our multimillionaire "public servants" in Congress have enriched themselves via the cartels. They didn't get rich on their salaries.
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 22, 2019, 12:35:29 am
I wonder how many of our multimillionaire "public servants" in Congress have enriched themselves via the cartels. They didn't get rich on their salaries.


......... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: Sanguine on May 22, 2019, 12:36:20 am
Quote
He believes there is no reason existing law can’t be marshalled the way it was then. It’s all politics...
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 22, 2019, 12:43:57 am
Fair question.  WHY??

Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?

..........“The laws are there, the rules are there, the people are there; they need to be allowed to do their jobs,” says Vara. He was one of the top officials dealing both with the Nicaraguan asylum influx in 1989 and the Hatians and Cubans in the 1990s. He believes there is no reason existing law can’t be marshalled the way it was then. It’s all politics, in his view.

What about the concerns of foreign terrorists, health, and espionage? Vara explains that, contrary to what the government is telling us, we are not properly vetting them out even at points of entry. ............

https://omny.fm/shows/the-conservative-conscience-with-daniel-horowitz-1/top-veteran-immigration-officer-why-is-government



That isn't a rhetorical question?   Is he kidding?  WHERE HAVE YOU ALL BEEN?  The laws put in by JFK...then put into LAW IN 1965 by LBJ & Teddy Kennedy.  JFK..gave ILLEGALS WELFARE ..and thought our immigration QUOTA was "intolerable."
JFK.  wanted more people from Third world countries coming.  Africa, Asian, muslim countries. THE DEMON-RATS...won't change the laws or support president TRUMP.  Every rally, resident has talked about this. Then the CIRCUS 9TH CIRCUIT court blocks what president wants to do.  Then we have DIRTY DOZEN. RINO'S...voted AGAINST PRESIDENT ON NATIONAL EMERGENCY.  If his question is WHY ARE DEMON-RATS & RINO'S doing this..I can support his article.. but he is in ANY way trying to blame my president,  he is UNINFORMED & NUTS.  It is NOT a fair question.

he 12 Senate Republicans who voted AGAINST president TRUMPS..National Emergency

 Roger Wicker of Mississippi,

Marco Rubio of Florida,

 Rob Portman of Ohio,
 Susan Collins of Maine,
 Lisa Murkowski of Alaska,
Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania,
 Roy Blunt of Missouri,
 Lamar Alexander of Tennessee,

 Mitt Romney of Utah,

 Rand Paul of Kentucky,
Jerry Moran of Kansas
and Mike Lee of Utah.
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 22, 2019, 12:48:05 am
Why don't people know?  Why is this even being ASKED?   

President is still fighting for us.
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IMMIGRATION    PUBLISHED: 5:31 PM 17 MAY 2019

Trump Administration Plans Insurrection Act Move To Combat Illegal ‘Rebellion’
Just like Eisenhower had to use the National Guard to stop democrats in the late 50’s who fought desegregation, Donald Trump must act to stop the invasion of the United States fomented by liberals.
 by Georgette
 

The president plans, according to sources, to use the Insurrection Act to help stop the illegal invasion.

SIGN UP FOR CONSERVATIVE DAILY POST NEWS ALERTS
 
According to a number of senior administration officials, President Donald Trump is planning to utilize the executive powers he legally has to invoke the Insurrection Act, as a response to the border invasion.

The Daily Caller reported:
“We’re doing the Insurrection Act,” one official said.

Under the Insurrection Act of 1807, the president has the authority to use the National Guard and military in order to combat “unlawful obstruction or rebellion” within U.S. borders.
The act was last invoked in 1992 by George H.W. Bush to quell the Los Angeles riots, and was also used by Eisenhower in 1957 to enforce school desegregation in the south.
[Democrats tried to fight that too]

An official expressed concerns that Trump’s use of the act’s powers would face legal challenges, pointing to the lawsuits against the president’s travel ban from majority-Muslim countries. However, as the official noted, the travel ban ultimately prevailed in the Supreme Court.
In addition to the Insurrection Act, the president is also considering declaring the country full and insisting that the U.S. can no longer handle the massive influx of illegal immigrants.

2019 is currently on pace to reach the highest levels of illegal immigration in a decade.
“If you take a ship and it holds 1,000 people maximum — one more person and the ship is going to collapse,” the official explained. “The country is full.”

“Our hospitals are full, our detention centers are full,” they added.
ICE facilities were forced to release 100,000 illegal immigrants in the first three months of 2019 because of overcrowding in detention centers.

Separately, the president unveiled a new immigration plan Thursday that focuses on border security and merit-based legal immigration.

The plan, which was co-authored by top aides Jared Kushner and Stephen Miller, would increase the proportion of visas granted to highly-skilled immigrants and also establish a self-sustaining border security fund.
Many people think the move is excellent. The United States is facing a real invasion crisis, and the powers of the President are designed to thwart that sort of problem.

The fact that democrats fight this indicates that the move is both logical and will be effective
Deep State Official Tells China: ‘Just Wait Until Trump Is Removed’

Trump Administration Plans Insurrection Act Move To Combat Illegal ‘Rebellion’

Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 22, 2019, 01:01:49 am
There is no QUESTION....deep state =DEMON=RATS. & RINO'S.   

Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw8c2Cq-vpg#)
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 22, 2019, 01:13:03 am
Old laws that president TRUMP wants changed and demon-rats and RINO'S won't vote for them.  Like; REMOVE ALL WELFARE FOR ILLEGALS.  NO MORE PERKS OF ANY KIND.  Drivers license...but no need to get car insurance!  We have to do that. 

No more LOTTERY.  NO MORE VISAS.  No more chain migration.  DEMOCRATS WIL NOT CHANGE THOSE LAWS. 

8 YEARS OF OPEN BORDERS WITH OBAMA. 9TH CIRCUIT COURT...blocking president TEMP shut down from islamists coming in.  till properly vetted.   Same countries obama used.  NATIONAL EMERGENCY BLOCKED BY DIRTY DOZEN...RINO'S.

LA RAZA..attorneys, islamist attorney's...blocking president TRUMP.  Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters, stopping president TRUMP.  Cory Booker...KAMALA HARRIS.  Joe Biden.   OBAMA & Hillary still behind the scenes working against president TRUMP.  Hoax Russian dozzier.  MITT ROMNEY bad mouthing my president.  And on, & on, & on......

What was the question? 

Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 22, 2019, 01:17:50 am


He is so out of touch with what is going on.
Why don't people know?  Why is this even being ASKED?   
President is still fighting for us.
----------------------------------------------------------
IMMIGRATION    PUBLISHED: 5:31 PM 17 MAY 2019

Trump Administration Plans Insurrection Act Move To Combat Illegal ‘Rebellion’
Just like Eisenhower had to use the National Guard to stop democrats in the late 50’s who fought desegregation, Donald Trump must act to stop the invasion of the United States fomented by liberals.
 by Georgette
 

The president plans, according to sources, to use the Insurrection Act to help stop the illegal invasion.

SIGN UP FOR CONSERVATIVE DAILY POST NEWS ALERTS
 
According to a number of senior administration officials, President Donald Trump is planning to utilize the executive powers he legally has to invoke the Insurrection Act, as a response to the border invasion.
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: DCPatriot on May 22, 2019, 01:25:02 am
I wonder how many of our multimillionaire "public servants" in Congress have enriched themselves via the cartels. They didn't get rich on their salaries.

@austingirl
Just caught the ass-end of an conversation Tucker Carlson was having in an interview with Dr. Ben Carson.

Dr. Carson, current Secretary of Housing and Development maintains that America's poor and homeless should get federal priority, rather than those pouring across our borders.

Poppycock!!!

America is the Land of Opportunity.  Literally.  You get off your ass and work and by miracle, you earn money to afford your life to proceed with dignity.

Personally, I'd hire a man or woman who traveled hitched a train ride and took risks in a desert, getting here...than somebody who is sleeping outside on the city streets, blocks away from the job.

Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 22, 2019, 01:37:53 am
@austingirl
Just caught the ass-end of an conversation Tucker Carlson was having in an interview with Dr. Ben Carson.

Dr. Carson, current Secretary of Housing and Development maintains that America's poor and homeless should get federal priority, rather than those pouring across our borders.

Poppycock!!!

America is the Land of Opportunity.  Literally.  You get off your ass and work and by miracle, you earn money to afford your life to proceed with dignity.

Personally, I'd hire a man or woman who traveled hitched a train ride and took risks in a desert, getting here...than somebody who is sleeping outside on the city streets, blocks away from the job.

Ben Carson is an enabler of black ghetto.
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: Sanguine on May 22, 2019, 01:40:38 am
Ben Carson is an enabler of black ghetto.

What the hell are you babbling about?
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: Sanguine on May 22, 2019, 01:42:23 am
@austingirl
Just caught the ass-end of an conversation Tucker Carlson was having in an interview with Dr. Ben Carson.

Dr. Carson, current Secretary of Housing and Development maintains that America's poor and homeless should get federal priority, rather than those pouring across our borders.

Poppycock!!!

America is the Land of Opportunity.  Literally.  You get off your ass and work and by miracle, you earn money to afford your life to proceed with dignity.

Personally, I'd hire a man or woman who traveled hitched a train ride and took risks in a desert, getting here...than somebody who is sleeping outside on the city streets, blocks away from the job.

That ain't right, @DCP.
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 22, 2019, 01:43:24 am

My president keeps having his precious time taken up with this ANTI-AMERICAN attack. Russia is hoax..proven. Now they go ager his taxes...to harass him & take up time.  JUDGE IS BIDEN & OBAMA DONOR. (Amit P. Mehta, NAME=MUSLIM? )
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That Judge Who Said Trump Must Surrender His Tax Returns Has An Interesting Donor History

 Matt Vespa Matt Vespa | @mvespa1 |Posted: May 21, 2019 1:30 PM  Share    Tweet

That Judge Who Said Trump Must Surrender His Tax Returns Has An Interesting Donor History
Source: AP Photo/Alex Brandon


Okay, so we all know the hammer the judiciary dropped on the Trump administration last night, right? A federal judge sided with House Democrats over their subpoenas over President Trump’s tax returns. Democrats want six years worth of returns, including those from the president’s businesses. The subpoenas targeted an accounting firm and to no one’s surprise this Obama-appointed judge sided with Democrats (via NYT):

President Trump’s accounting firm must turn over his financial records to Congress, a Federal District Court judge ruled on Monday, rejecting his legal team’s argument that lawmakers had no legitimate power to subpoena the files.
But Mr. Trump vowed that his legal team would appeal rather than permit the firm, Mazars USA, to comply with the subpoena and the ruling, so the legal fight is far from over.
The ruling by the judge, Amit P. Mehta of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia, was an early judicial test of the president’s vow to systematically stonewall “all” subpoenas by House Democrats, stymieing their ability to perform oversight of Mr. Trump and the executive branch after winning control of the chamber in last year’s midterm elections.
Mr. Trump’s legal team, led by William S. Consovoy, had argued that the House Committee on Oversight and Reform had no legitimate legislative purpose in seeking Mr. Trump’s financial records and was just trying to dig up dirt — like finding out whether the president broke any laws — for political reasons, so the subpoena exceeded its constitutional authority.

Andrew Surabian
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@Surabees
 Oh look, the Federal Judge who just ruled that President Trump must turn over his financial records to Congressional Dems, also just so happens to be an Obama-Biden donor. I'm sure one has nothing to do with the other though. Nothing to see here folks!https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=Amit+Mehta … pic.twitter.com/2EGAe5r0oc


Andrew Surabian
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@Surabees
Replying to @Surabees
Sure is interesting how the media has thus far missed this factoid, isn't it? Now lets play a game & imagine that the same Judge was a Trump donor & ruled in his favor here...Something tells me this would be all over CNN tonight & the talking heads would be screaming, corruption!

Oh, and did we forget that Judge Mehta was an Obama donor as well. It’s time to play everyone’s favorite game, folks: ‘If this were a Republican donor, the media would’…certainly, cover it like some corrupt bargain. But alas, that’s not how things operate in the Democrat-media complex, where two sets of rules govern America’s two dominant political philosophies. Once gets pilloried for stupid crap, while the other can be corrupt, commit crimes, lie, cheat, steal, and totally get away with it—it must be nice to be a Democrat.
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 22, 2019, 01:47:30 am
Here we go again.  OBAMA-BIDEN donor Judge...who looks Arab...does this. More time taken up with baloney instead of working for country.


http://heavy.com/news/2019/05/judge-amit-mehta/ (http://heavy.com/news/2019/05/judge-amit-mehta/)
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 22, 2019, 01:50:00 am
I wonder how many of our multimillionaire "public servants" in Congress have enriched themselves via the cartels. They didn't get rich on their salaries.


Its a question, but I think its very probable.  How can we expect that our government would not be affected by the same corruption that is happening in Mexico?  Its right across the border.  And Cartel is operating in almost every major US city.
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 22, 2019, 01:58:11 am
@austingirl

America is the Land of Opportunity.  Literally.  You get off your ass and work and by miracle, you earn money to afford your life to proceed with dignity.

Personally, I'd hire a man or woman who traveled hitched a train ride and took risks in a desert, getting here...than somebody who is sleeping outside on the city streets, blocks away from the job.

You lucked out in what ... the 70's? @DCPatriot with those you met who traveled hitched to a train and took risks getting here.

This isn't your real estate enclave we're talking about today.  Today those hitched to a train are coming for "asylum" and even steal kids to help their cases.  They're not coming to put down hardwood floors, they're coming to rape our welfare system.


Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 22, 2019, 01:58:44 am


That isn't a rhetorical question?   Is he kidding?  WHERE HAVE YOU ALL BEEN?  The laws put in by JFK...then put into LAW IN 1965 by LBJ & Teddy Kennedy.  JFK..gave ILLEGALS WELFARE ..and thought our immigration QUOTA was "intolerable."
JFK.  wanted more people from Third world countries coming.  Africa, Asian, muslim countries. THE DEMON-RATS...won't change the laws or support president TRUMP.  Every rally, resident has talked about this. Then the CIRCUS 9TH CIRCUIT court blocks what president wants to do.  Then we have DIRTY DOZEN. RINO'S...voted AGAINST PRESIDENT ON NATIONAL EMERGENCY.  If his question is WHY ARE DEMON-RATS & RINO'S doing this..I can support his article.. but he is in ANY way trying to blame my president,  he is UNINFORMED & NUTS.  It is NOT a fair question.




he 12 Senate Republicans who voted AGAINST president TRUMPS..National Emergency

 Roger Wicker of Mississippi,

Marco Rubio of Florida,

 Rob Portman of Ohio,
 Susan Collins of Maine,
 Lisa Murkowski of Alaska,
Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania,
 Roy Blunt of Missouri,
 Lamar Alexander of Tennessee,

 Mitt Romney of Utah,

 Rand Paul of Kentucky,
Jerry Moran of Kansas
and Mike Lee of Utah.


If we stopped all the welfare and free healthcare when they walk into a facility they would stop coming.
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: DCPatriot on May 22, 2019, 02:25:11 am
You lucked out in what ... the 70's? @DCPatriot with those you met who traveled hitched to a train and took risks getting here.

This isn't your real estate enclave we're talking about today.  Today those hitched to a train are coming for "asylum" and even steal kids to help their cases.  They're not coming to put down hardwood floors, they're coming to rape our welfare system.

I normally have the same feelings, @Right_in_Virginia

But, my county, which borders D.C. has been transformed in the past 30 years.  Accelerated the past 10.

During my walks, when I see immigrant mothers in colorful mismatched clothing walking around lake path with their toddlers, I immediately  think...that those children are no different than my parents...except for the legality.

The lake has a 1.25 mile circumference.  Normal pace walk and you'll nod with a smile to more than a dozen.

They look you in the eye and sincerely smile.  The fathers and sons are fishing the lake. 

Good neighbors.   Except their food is too spicy.

This doesn't mean I don't want a wall a gazillion feet high.  I do.

All I'm saying...your heart would soften if you were able to experience it.  They ran the gauntlet.  They're paying rent.  Their kids are in local schools.

They're not spawn of inner-city poor that grew up never having a life or a father.
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 22, 2019, 02:36:35 am
I normally have the same feelings, @Right_in_Virginia

But, my county, which borders D.C. has been transformed in the past 30 years.  Accelerated the past 10.

During my walks, when I see immigrant mothers in colorful mismatched clothing walking around lake path with their toddlers, I immediately  think...that those children are no different than my parents...except for the legality.

The lake has a 1.25 mile circumference.  Normal pace walk and you'll nod with a smile to more than a dozen.

They look you in the eye and sincerely smile.  The fathers and sons are fishing the lake. 

Good neighbors.   Except their food is too spicy.

This doesn't mean I don't want a wall a gazillion feet high.  I do.

All I'm saying...your heart would soften if you were able to experience it.  They ran the gauntlet.  They're paying rent.  Their kids are in local schools.

They're not spawn of inner-city poor that grew up never having a life or a father. 

What makes you think I've not experienced what you're talking about @DCPatriot 

But this does not mean I'll turn a blind eye to the invasion .... and it is an invasion ... happening now.  Legal counts, DC.  In today's world more than ever.  We've the right to know who's entering and to decide if they should stay.

I'll not surrender our sovereignty because the handful you and I know smile and pay rent.


Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: DCPatriot on May 22, 2019, 02:44:16 am
What makes you think I've not experienced what you're talking about @DCPatriot 

But this does not mean I'll turn a blind eye to the invasion .... and it is an invasion ... happening now.  Legal counts, DC.  In today's world more than ever.  We've the right to know who's entering and to decide if they should stay.

I'll not surrender our sovereignty because the handful you and I know smile and pay rent.

Nobody is saying they are condoning the invasion.  And it's an invasion.   BUILD THE WALL!

Laws are not being enforced.  It has morphed into a humanitarian event.  Planned as it was.

The problem here is that we border Washington, DC.

Montgomery County has always been a TOP 10 per capita county nationally.

If the assistance for more taxpayers is limited to one generation, it's an investment by the government.

No different than my Sicilian grandmother watering her tomatoes.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 22, 2019, 02:45:07 am
You lucked out in what ... the 70's? @DCPatriot with those you met who traveled hitched to a train and took risks getting here.

This isn't your real estate enclave we're talking about today.  Today those hitched to a train are coming for "asylum" and even steal kids to help their cases.  They're not coming to put down hardwood floors, they're coming to rape our welfare system.

We are getting drug cartel, murderers,  HUMAN sex traffickers..MS-13...and islamists.  ALL RAPIST.  In every sense of the word. 

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 22, 2019, 02:54:37 am
What makes you think I've not experienced what you're talking about @DCPatriot 

But this does not mean I'll turn a blind eye to the invasion .... and it is an invasion ... happening now.  Legal counts, DC.  In today's world more than ever.  We've the right to know who's entering and to decide if they should stay.

I'll not surrender our sovereignty because the handful you and I know smile and pay rent.


I agree.  People need to stop thinking these ARE PEACEFUL PEOPLE...they aren't!  Criminals.  Hard core killers.  He is romanticizing, things. I am LEGAL IMMIGRANT.  We used to leave our houses unlocked.  Keys in car ignition..while parked in driveway. Mailbox on house. No one bothered anything.  Now, doors are kicked in.  Mailboxes in concrete, dragged off with chains at bottom with truck. A/C stripped of copper!  Cars hot wired.   RAPES. Kidnap ransoms, Sex slaves.  MORE.  Not your grandma's  America anymore. 

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on May 22, 2019, 02:58:04 am
Nobody is saying they are condoning the invasion.  And it's an invasion.   BUILD THE WALL!

Laws are not being enforced.  It has morphed into a humanitarian event.  Planned as it was.

The problem here is that we border Washington, DC.

Montgomery County has always been a TOP 10 per capita county nationally.

If the assistance for more taxpayers is limited to one generation, it's an investment by the government.

No different than my Sicilian grandmother watering her tomatoes.   :laugh:

My Irish grandmother would have been standing next to the plants praying "the good Lord willing".   It sounded really beautiful through her brogue  happy77
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: DCPatriot on May 22, 2019, 03:03:42 am
My Irish grandmother would have been standing next to the plants praying "the good Lord willing".   It sounded really beautiful through her brogue  happy77

 :beer:
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: austingirl on May 22, 2019, 01:53:50 pm
@austingirl
Just caught the ass-end of an conversation Tucker Carlson was having in an interview with Dr. Ben Carson.

Dr. Carson, current Secretary of Housing and Development maintains that America's poor and homeless should get federal priority, rather than those pouring across our borders.

Poppycock!!!

America is the Land of Opportunity.  Literally.  You get off your ass and work and by miracle, you earn money to afford your life to proceed with dignity.

Personally, I'd hire a man or woman who traveled hitched a train ride and took risks in a desert, getting here...than somebody who is sleeping outside on the city streets, blocks away from the job.

@DCPatriot
I'd never give preference to an illegal over a citizen. I'd damn sure cut welfare for able-bodied citizens. Someone sleeping on the streets is probably mentally ill and/or on drugs brought in by the invaders.
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: DCPatriot on May 22, 2019, 03:26:37 pm
@DCPatriot
I'd never give preference to an illegal over a citizen. I'd damn sure cut welfare for able-bodied citizens. Someone sleeping on the streets is probably mentally ill and/or on drugs brought in by the invaders.

Let me clarify my earlier statment, please. 

I was coming from an employer's perspective.   Economy has been roaring and jobs go begging.

When an individual doesn't have a job, yet gets by each month by assistance or panhandling, etc., they tend to get 'satisfied' with their station and lack the drive and passion to get out of that situation.

I'll go with an individual who trekked here full of dreams and promise.    :shrug:
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: Sanguine on May 22, 2019, 03:54:30 pm
Let me clarify my earlier statment, please. 

I was coming from an employer's perspective.   Economy has been roaring and jobs go begging.

When an individual doesn't have a job, yet gets by each month by assistance or panhandling, etc., they tend to get 'satisfied' with their station and lack the drive and passion to get out of that situation.

I'll go with an individual who trekked here full of dreams and promise.    :shrug:

Oh, there's dreams and promises allright.  Your statement might make sense if it weren't for:

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63% of Non-Citizen Households Access Welfare Programs Compared to 35% of native households

https://cis.org/Report/63-NonCitizen-Households-Access-Welfare-Programs (https://cis.org/Report/63-NonCitizen-Households-Access-Welfare-Programs)


Census confirms: 63 percent of 'non-citizens' on welfare, 4.6 million ...
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/census-confirms-63-percent-of-non-citizens-on-welfare-4-6-million-households (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/census-confirms-63-percent-of-non-citizens-on-welfare-4-6-million-households)

    Anonymous View

Dec 3, 2018 ... Non-citizens in the data include illegal immigrants, long-term temporary ... Welfare use drops to 58 percent for non-citizen households and 30 ...In a new analysis of the latest numbers, from 2014, 63 percent of non-citizens are using a welfare program, and it grows to 70 percent for those here 10 years or more, confirming another concern that once immigrants tap into welfare, they don’t get off it.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/census-confirms-63-percent-of-non-citizens-on-welfare-4-6-million-households (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/census-confirms-63-percent-of-non-citizens-on-welfare-4-6-million-households)

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Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: sneakypete on May 22, 2019, 06:41:50 pm
Excellent question!

I have been wondering about the same thing myself,as well as why they don't just immediately turn around the ones they just caught,and herd them straight back across the border. No pass go,no collect 200 dollars,just a electronic prod in the ass to keep them moving until they are out of the country.
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: sneakypete on May 22, 2019, 06:52:54 pm
Old laws that president TRUMP wants changed and demon-rats and RINO'S won't vote for them.  Like; REMOVE ALL WELFARE FOR ILLEGALS.  NO MORE PERKS OF ANY KIND.  Drivers license...but no need to get car insurance!  We have to do that. 

No more LOTTERY.  NO MORE VISAS.  No more chain migration.  DEMOCRATS WIL NOT CHANGE THOSE LAWS. 

8 YEARS OF OPEN BORDERS WITH OBAMA. 9TH CIRCUIT COURT...blocking president TEMP shut down from islamists coming in.  till properly vetted.   Same countries obama used.  NATIONAL EMERGENCY BLOCKED BY DIRTY DOZEN...RINO'S.

LA RAZA..attorneys, islamist attorney's...blocking president TRUMP.  Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters, stopping president TRUMP.  Cory Booker...KAMALA HARRIS.  Joe Biden.   OBAMA & Hillary still behind the scenes working against president TRUMP.  Hoax Russian dozzier.  MITT ROMNEY bad mouthing my president.  And on, & on, & on......

What was the question?

@LegalAmerican

And while we are at it,"DO NOT ALLOW ANYMORE CHINESE STUDENTS INTO OUR COUNTRY TO BE EDUCATED AND STEAL OUR TECHNOLOGY BY SENDING ENGINEERING PLANS BACK TO CHINA.
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: libertybele on May 22, 2019, 07:07:07 pm
What the hell are you babbling about?

 888high58888 
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: DCPatriot on May 22, 2019, 10:21:22 pm
Oh, there's dreams and promises allright.  Your statement might make sense if it weren't for:

I've admitted that they receive welfare benefits right here in the conversation.

But, it's an investment.  And here in Montgomery County, MD, the taxpayer base has exploded.

* They're virtually all Catholic.   (don't snicker)  :laugh:
* They make lots of babies.

Somebody has to replenish the FICA pond.   I recall back in the late Clinton years, it was revealed that there was over $586M in collected FICA taxes from fraudulently used SS numbers.

Who in the hell is going to want that to stop?

It must be my age....coming to terms with my own mortality. 

Whether they came thru Ellis Island, like my grandparents, or they were dropped off by the government, those children are not to blame.

And it could be a helluva lot worse.  They could be devout Muslims. (see Europe)
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: EdJames on May 22, 2019, 10:25:14 pm
I've admitted that they receive welfare benefits right here in the conversation.

But, it's an investment.  And here in Montgomery County, MD, the taxpayer base has exploded.

* They're virtually all Catholic.   (don't snicker)  :laugh:
* They make lots of babies.

Somebody has to replenish the FICA pond.   I recall back in the late Clinton years, it was revealed that there was over $586M in collected FICA taxes from fraudulently used SS numbers.

Who in the hell is going to want that to stop?

It must be my age....coming to terms with my own mortality. 

Whether they came thru Ellis Island, like my grandparents, or they were dropped off by the government, those children are not to blame.

And it could be a helluva lot worse.  They could be devout Muslims. (see Europe)

Sounds like you are suggesting that "pragmatism" rules the roost?
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: libertybele on May 22, 2019, 10:31:00 pm
I've admitted that they receive welfare benefits right here in the conversation.

But, it's an investment.  And here in Montgomery County, MD, the taxpayer base has exploded.

* They're virtually all Catholic.   (don't snicker)  :laugh:
* They make lots of babies.

Somebody has to replenish the FICA pond.   I recall back in the late Clinton years, it was revealed that there was over $586M in collected FICA taxes from fraudulently used SS numbers.

Who in the hell is going to want that to stop?

It must be my age....coming to terms with my own mortality. 

Whether they came thru Ellis Island, like my grandparents, or they were dropped off by the government, those children are not to blame.

And it could be a helluva lot worse.  They could be devout Muslims. (see Europe)

Who says that devout Muslims aren't pouring over our borders??  Does anyone really know?  With the tremendous surge coming in from over 50 different countries, I highly doubt that they are able to keep track and no one know how many are coming in that aren't unaccounted for.
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: sneakypete on May 22, 2019, 11:47:32 pm

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* They're virtually all Catholic.   (don't snicker)  :laugh:
* They make lots of babies.


@DCPatriot

That's two strikes.


 
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Whether they came thru Ellis Island, like my grandparents, or they were dropped off by the government, those children are not to blame.

Not true. At Ellis Island all the new immigrants were wanting to be Americans,not Europeans living in America. They were also checked for diseases,and for criminal backgrounds,as best they could check back then. Anyone rejected was put on a boat back to Europe,not put up in government housing,eating government food and wearing government clothing.


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And it could be a helluva lot worse.  They could be devout Muslims. (see Europe)

Damned at the difference. They are foreign invaders who come here to pillage the land with no intention of actually becoming Americans. They are nothing less than enemy invaders.
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: libertybele on May 22, 2019, 11:57:26 pm
Excellent question!

I have been wondering about the same thing myself,as well as why they don't just immediately turn around the ones they just caught,and herd them straight back across the border. No pass go,no collect 200 dollars,just a electronic prod in the ass to keep them moving until they are out of the country.

Part of the problem in Trump's infinite wisdom he agreed to allow the U.N. to determine who is granted asylum and what country to place them in, including the U.S.  Then after the fact he tried to revamp asylum laws and that failed.  He should have told the U.N. to go take a hike. 

Now our military is stuck processing paperwork and babysitting kids in tent cities along the border. 

No easy solution at this point other than for him to order the military to stop the invasion with force.  I certainly don't think anyone wants to see violence, but our country's borders need to be secured and our citizens free from being attacked by mobs coming across.  It IS the President's job!!  He's not doing it.  WHY?  Continues to be the question.
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: DCPatriot on May 22, 2019, 11:59:39 pm
Sounds like you are suggesting that "pragmatism" rules the roost?

Yes, sir!   :patriot:    happy77
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: libertybele on May 23, 2019, 12:12:29 am
Yes, sir!   :patriot:    happy77

Well, hopefully when the Muslims move into your neighborhood, you won't mind a bit, and make sure you attend the townhall meeting when they want to change zoning to allow for a mosque!

(https://www.michiganradio.org/sites/michigan/files/styles/x_large/public/201801/IMG_0548.jpg)

 By Lauren Talley • Feb 2, 2018

The call to prayer is broadcast five different times during the day over a loadspeaker on top of the American Moslem Society in Dearborn, Mich

https://www.michiganradio.org/post/mornings-michigan-dearborn-residents-wake-sacred-chant (https://www.michiganradio.org/post/mornings-michigan-dearborn-residents-wake-sacred-chant)
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: libertybele on May 23, 2019, 12:32:39 am
Here are the latest stats on Hamtramck (15 minutes from Dearborn, pictured above).

The overall crime rate in Hamtramck is 33% higher than the national average. For every 100,000 people, there are 10.01 daily crimes that occur in Hamtramck. Hamtramck is safer than 9% of the cities in the United States. In Hamtramck you have a 1 in 28 chance of becoming a victim of any crime.

Do you think they are coming here in peace @DCPatriot ??? 
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: DCPatriot on May 23, 2019, 02:43:51 am
Well, hopefully when the Muslims move into your neighborhood, you won't mind a bit, and make sure you attend the townhall meeting when they want to change zoning to allow for a mosque!

(https://www.michiganradio.org/sites/michigan/files/styles/x_large/public/201801/IMG_0548.jpg)

 By Lauren Talley • Feb 2, 2018

The call to prayer is broadcast five different times during the day over a loadspeaker on top of the American Moslem Society in Dearborn, Mich

https://www.michiganradio.org/post/mornings-michigan-dearborn-residents-wake-sacred-chant (https://www.michiganradio.org/post/mornings-michigan-dearborn-residents-wake-sacred-chant)

You must not have been following the conversation.  I've said that we're lucky the hoard is 90% Hispanic/Catholic.

Yes, I try to live my life with a pragmatic outlook. 

We have fallen below the birth/death replacement rate for many years.  Fault of Feminism...but that's for another thread.


Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: Sanguine on May 23, 2019, 02:49:31 am
You must not have been following the conversation.  I've said that we're lucky the hoard is 90% Hispanic/Catholic.

Yes, I try to live my life with a pragmatic outlook. 

We have fallen below the birth/death replacement rate for many years.  Fault of Feminism...but that's for another thread.

Could also be a result of wage depression caused by massive immigration.  So many Americans can't afford to have the families they want.
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 23, 2019, 03:08:41 am
Who says that devout Muslims aren't pouring over our borders??  Does anyone really know?  With the tremendous surge coming in from over 50 different countries, I highly doubt that they are able to keep track and no one know how many are coming in that aren't unaccounted for.


Of course they are. They are catching people from 50 different countries.
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 23, 2019, 03:09:43 am
Could also be a result of wage depression caused by massive immigration.  So many Americans can't afford to have the families they want.



Amen.  We are busy paying for other people's families.
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: Chosen Daughter on May 23, 2019, 03:18:09 am
I've admitted that they receive welfare benefits right here in the conversation.

But, it's an investment.  And here in Montgomery County, MD, the taxpayer base has exploded.

* They're virtually all Catholic.   (don't snicker)  :laugh:
* They make lots of babies.

Somebody has to replenish the FICA pond.   I recall back in the late Clinton years, it was revealed that there was over $586M in collected FICA taxes from fraudulently used SS numbers.

Who in the hell is going to want that to stop?

It must be my age....coming to terms with my own mortality. 

Whether they came thru Ellis Island, like my grandparents, or they were dropped off by the government, those children are not to blame.

And it could be a helluva lot worse.  They could be devout Muslims. (see Europe)


Are you sure it isn't Santeria.  Catholicism mixed with Voodoo?


Mexican folk religion involving human sacrifice gaining status among criminals

A Mexican folk religion involving human sacrifice and devoted to "Holy Death" is growing in popularity among drug traffickers and violent criminals, prompting Texas officials and the Catholic Church to warn about honoring the so-called "Saint Death."

Authorities are speaking out about the religion devoted to La Santa Muerte, which translates to “Holy Death” and "Saint Death," that has gained popularity steadily since the late 1980s among Mexican-American Catholics.


“She’s not a saint. There is nothing good that can come out of praying to her,” Sante Fe Archbiship John Wester said in February. “We have a lot of saints who represent the teaching of Jesus Christ. This is an aberration.”

Clad in a black nun’s robe and holding a scythe in one hand, Santa Muerte appeals to people seeking all manner of otherworldly help, from fending off wrongdoing and carrying out vengeance to people seeking protection for their drug shipments against law enforcement.

Devotees often use Catholic prayers and set up shrines in "her" honor.


https://www.foxnews.com/us/mexican-folk-religion-involving-human-sacrifice-gaining-status-among-criminals (https://www.foxnews.com/us/mexican-folk-religion-involving-human-sacrifice-gaining-status-among-criminals)
Title: Re: Top Veteran Immigration Officer: Why Is Government Not Shutting Down the Flow at the Border?
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 23, 2019, 04:59:48 am

@DCPatriot

That's two strikes.


 
Not true. At Ellis Island all the new immigrants were wanting to be Americans,not Europeans living in America. They were also checked for diseases,and for criminal backgrounds,as best they could check back then. Anyone rejected was put on a boat back to Europe,not put up in government housing,eating government food and wearing government clothing.


Damned at the difference. They are foreign invaders who come here to pillage the land with no intention of actually becoming Americans. They are nothing less than enemy invaders.


Correct. And we had to have a SPONSOR to come into America, be self sufficient, NO WEFARE..not that any Europeans even thought of that! We filled out our forms, paid the fees..received shots...STAYED IN QUARANTINE...about 3 weeks.  As a kid, I remember getting white powder sprayed into my hair.  We were cleaner than the people doing that.

Correct on it all Pete.  They fly their flag, while wanting our American help.  ILLEGAL INVADERS.