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Title: Natural gas companies call for carbon tax
Post by: Elderberry on December 03, 2019, 10:01:46 pm
Houston Chronicle by   James Osborne Dec. 3, 2019

A leading natural gas trade association came out in support of carbon taxes Tuesday, as pressure increases on the oil and gas industry to better work with government on addressing climate change.

Representing companies including Exxon Mobil, Chevron, ConocoPhillips, Cabot and Southwestern Energy, Natural Gas Supply Association President Dena Wiggins said member companies were unanimous in their support for taxing carbon emissions and suggested more in the industry were likely to follow.

“It’s such a huge, important national conversation, every trade association has to be thinking about it,” she said. “We’re likely not going to be the last.”

The Natural Gas Supply Association said it is not yet lobbying for any one specific proposal, but broadly supports carbon taxes that also eliminate existing regulations on carbon and deliver revenues not to government but directly to American consumers.

More: https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/energy/article/Natural-gas-companies-call-for-carbon-tax-14878125.php (https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/energy/article/Natural-gas-companies-call-for-carbon-tax-14878125.php)
Title: Re: Natural gas companies call for carbon tax
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on December 03, 2019, 11:31:35 pm
The only justification I see for it is to deflect.

That is not justification for all of us to pay more for our energy.
Title: Re: Natural gas companies call for carbon tax
Post by: Hoodat on December 03, 2019, 11:36:14 pm
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A leading natural gas trade association came out in support of carbon taxes

Idiots.  Natural gas is over 75% carbon.
Title: Re: Natural gas companies call for carbon tax
Post by: Smokin Joe on December 04, 2019, 01:54:25 am
Quote from: Hoodat on December 03, 2019, 11:36:14 pm
Idiots.  Natural gas is over 75% carbon.
Yep! As is ~18.5% of the human body (fat people have more). source (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composition_of_the_human_body)

Such a tax won't prop up prices, but it might supply suppliers with some means to tack on a little extra for collecting it.

I can't see any benefit to the industry over this, and none for the public.
Title: Re: Natural gas companies call for carbon tax
Post by: kidd on December 04, 2019, 07:53:00 pm
This is a move to knock out coal. It is a business move that has little to nothing to do with the environment.

Natural gas emits 50 to 60 percent less carbon dioxide (CO2) when combusted in a natural gas power plant compared with emissions from a typical coal plant
Title: Re: Natural gas companies call for carbon tax
Post by: Hoodat on December 04, 2019, 08:36:26 pm
Quote from: kidd on December 04, 2019, 07:53:00 pm
Natural gas emits 50 to 60 percent less carbon dioxide (CO2) when combusted in a natural gas power plant compared with emissions from a typical coal plant

Natural gas also emits water vapor consisting of polar molecules that are a worse green house antagonist than non-polar carbon dioxide.