The Briefing Room
General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: libertybele on March 13, 2018, 12:16:57 am
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Report: Trump’s Wall Could Pay For Itself By Cutting Welfare To Illegals
A new study says there may be no need for President Donald Trump to have Mexico pay for the southern border wall, because it would pay for itself in savings to the American taxpayer.
The Center for Immigration Studies report revealed the costs of the $18 billion wall would be quickly compensated by curbing the number of illegal immigrants who enter the country and enroll in public programs, as well as the costs associated with crime.
“The wall could pay for itself even if it only modestly reduced illegal crossings and drug smuggling,†CIS President Steven A. Camarota told New York Post.
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According to federal data, illegal border crossings in El Paso, Texas dropped 89 percent over a 5- year period after a two-story-high fence was erected during the George W. Bush administration.
Similarly, in San Diego, crossings dropped 95 percent in 2006 after a fence was erected as part of the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which passed both chambers of Congress by large majorities.
Without a wall, the Homeland Security Department estimates there will be 1.7 million illegal crossings from Mexico into the U.S. over the next decade......
https://www.westernjournal.com/report-trumps-wall-pay-cutting-welfare-illegals/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=conservative-brief-WJ&utm_campaign=dailypm&utm_content=western-journal (https://www.westernjournal.com/report-trumps-wall-pay-cutting-welfare-illegals/?utm_source=Email&utm_medium=conservative-brief-WJ&utm_campaign=dailypm&utm_content=western-journal)
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Well let me be the first to agree. The wall will pay for itself.
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People who are illegals should not be getting state and federal aid. Only in Washington would the cessation of an expenditure having no legal basis for occurring be considered a savings.
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Something like Operation Intercept or Hold-the-Line would be a lot more effective, just like it was before.
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Illegals shouldn't be receiving welfare to begin with.
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People who are illegals should not be getting state and federal aid. Only in Washington would the cessation of an expenditure having no legal basis for occurring be considered a savings.
But they are. One way is that children born in the United States to illegal parents are eligible for all welfare programs. (Reason why we need to return to intent of law) And that is almost every illegal immigrant family. The cost in Education alone is staggering. Free lunches, special classes for immigrants......etc. In Washington we also have free lunches for kids to the age of 18 all summer long. No need to apply or anything. You have the cost to jail illegal immigrants also when they commit crimes. Emergency care is huge also.
illegal immigrants do not qualify for Federal grants for college but they get state grants.
https://fairus.org/issue/publications-resources/fiscal-burden-illegal-immigration-united-states-taxpayers
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@Chosen Daughter, you are right! This is the thing -- even if the illegal immigrants themselves don't qualify, their kids do. And I don't think we will ever agree nationally to changing the citizenship birthright. So American children of illegal immigrants are just as entitled to services as my son is.
In CA, even undocumented kids qualify for healthcare and education. I can understand why, too -- we're all better off if these kids (who as long as they are here affect everyone) are vaccinated against communicable disease and are in school rather than running around and begging or something. I think that was a huge flaw of CA's Proposition 187 from Gov. Pete Wilson -- it would have caused a huge public health crisis, among other problems.
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@Chosen Daughter, you are right! This is the thing -- even if the illegal immigrants themselves don't qualify, their kids do. And I don't think we will ever agree nationally to changing the citizenship birthright. So American children of illegal immigrants are just as entitled to services as my son is.
In CA, even undocumented kids qualify for healthcare and education. I can understand why, too -- we're all better off if these kids (who as long as they are here affect everyone) are vaccinated against communicable disease and are in school rather than running around and begging or something. I think that was a huge flaw of CA's Proposition 187 from Gov. Pete Wilson -- it would have caused a huge public health crisis, among other problems.
Yeah I am right but you are wrong.
https://fairus.org/issue/societal-impact/birthright-citizenship
I don't want to provide education nor do I want them begging. I want them out. I am tired of paying for them. Every year my property tax goes up to pay for the rising cost of education and welfare.
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Yeah I am right but you are wrong.
https://fairus.org/issue/societal-impact/birthright-citizenship
I don't want to provide education nor do I want them begging. I want them out. I am tired of paying for them. Every year my property tax goes up to pay for the rising cost of education and welfare.
@Chosen Daughter I want them out also, but if you really do, you'd better stick with the Republican Party. The democrats want them here and want sanctuary cities.
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@Chosen Daughter I'm just saying, that I don't think the citizenship rules will be changing, whether anyone likes it or not.
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@Chosen Daughter I want them out also, but if you really do, you'd better stick with the Republican Party. The democrats want them here and want sanctuary cities.
*SNORT*
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In CA, even undocumented kids qualify for healthcare and education. I can understand why, too -- we're all better off if these kids (who as long as they are here affect everyone) are vaccinated against communicable disease and are in school rather than running around and begging or something.
The problem here is that California now ranks dead last (50th) in education.
I don't want to provide education nor do I want them begging. I want them out. I am tired of paying for them. Every year my property tax goes up to pay for the rising cost of education and welfare.
My contention all along has been that if we stop giving out free stuff, then we take away the incentive for leeches. But for those who want to come here and work hard, start businesses, and get a piece of the American Dream, they have my blessing.
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Yeah I am right but you are wrong.
https://fairus.org/issue/societal-impact/birthright-citizenship
I don't want to provide education nor do I want them begging. I want them out. I am tired of paying for them. Every year my property tax goes up to pay for the rising cost of education and welfare.
Agreed. Build a wall and deportation. Nothing less.
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Yeah I am right but you are wrong.
https://fairus.org/issue/societal-impact/birthright-citizenship
I don't want to provide education nor do I want them begging. I want them out. I am tired of paying for them. Every year my property tax goes up to pay for the rising cost of education and welfare.
@Chosen Daughter
A big :thumbsup: to that
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The problem here is that California now ranks dead last (50th) in education.
My contention all along has been that if we stop giving out free stuff, then we take away the incentive for leeches. But for those who want to come here and work hard, start businesses, and get a piece of the American Dream, they have my blessing.
Those who are interested in coming here to work, or start a business and assimilate to American culture, can do so. LEGALLY. I have no problem with LEGAL immigration.
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The problem here is that California now ranks dead last (50th) in education.
My contention all along has been that if we stop giving out free stuff, then we take away the incentive for leeches. But for those who want to come here and work hard, start businesses, and get a piece of the American Dream, they have my blessing.
That is pretty sad education alright. Here in Washington we are taxed heavily for education. Almost every election they want more money but they aren't showing anything for it either. When I started my family I didn't realize that I would have to raise other people's also. Its a struggle and I don't vote for schools anymore. Can't afford too but these levies always pass. We also buy school supplies for all the children at the beginning of the year. You send your child with what was on the list and they are asking you to get more pencils in a month. Because they give what you buy for your child out to other children.
illegals come and give birth to two or three children. They qualify for all of the welfare. Most know how to work the system. They don't marry so that they can continue to get all the goods. Cash, health, dental..... Things I struggle to provide for my own family. And lots work under the table or work reduced hours to make sure the benefits still flow.
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Those who are interested in coming here to work, or start a business and assimilate to American culture, can do so. LEGALLY. I have no problem with LEGAL immigration.
Agreed with are short changing American kids education by filling our schools with illegals that do
not want to assimilation, reject our culture and disrupt our kids education. We used to be #1
in education now we are close to last amongst first world nations.
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My contention all along has been that if we stop giving out free stuff, then we take away the incentive for leeches. But for those who want to come here and work hard, start businesses, and get a piece of the American Dream, they have my blessing.
Nail, head, etc.