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Title: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 13, 2018, 10:43:34 pm
Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
The Hill, Aug 13, 2018, Aris Folley

Rep. Grace Meng is sponsoring a resolution that would extend the right to vote to U.S. citizens 16 years of age or older.

The New York Democrat’s resolution, introduced earlier this month, would repeal the 26th Amendment of the Constitution, which currently states the right to vote for citizens who are 18 years of age or older "shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State."

If the resolution is passed, the amendment would instead say the right to vote for citizens who are 16 years of age or older "shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State."

The resolution comes several months after a City Council member in Washington, D.C., Charles Allen (D), introduced legislation that would lower the age to vote in federal and local elections to 16.


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Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: Elderberry on August 13, 2018, 10:58:33 pm
This right to vote at 16 would be under the Legal Age of Majority. A parent could forbid their 16 year old child from voting.
Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: Wingnut on August 13, 2018, 11:00:01 pm
This right to vote at 16 would be under the Legal Age of Majority. A parent could forbid their 16 year old child from voting.

Never gonna be voted on.  Just a libtard looking for a headline. 
Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: truth_seeker on August 13, 2018, 11:07:06 pm
I say 25 or older.

Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: Sanguine on August 13, 2018, 11:22:01 pm
I say 25 or older.

Me too.  At least past the age they are still on their parent's health insurance.
Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: Wingnut on August 13, 2018, 11:22:47 pm
Me too.  At least past the age they are still on their parent's health insurance.

Or move out of their parents basements.....
Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: Sanguine on August 13, 2018, 11:23:53 pm
Or move out of their parents basements.....

That might be in their 40's.
Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: Wingnut on August 13, 2018, 11:34:40 pm
That might be in their 40's.

Or the 12th of never! 
Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: Fishrrman on August 14, 2018, 12:50:49 am
truth seeker wrote:
"I say 25 or older."

At least raise the voting age back to 21, as it traditionally was.

The only exception I would make for that:
Anyone who is younger than 21 holding a DD-214 stating honorable discharge from military service. They've earned their rights, early!
Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: Hoodat on August 14, 2018, 01:07:35 am
Typical liberal.  They aren't satisfied with New York granting that right.  They want to force every other state to grant that right, too.
Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: libertybele on August 14, 2018, 01:24:29 am
At age 16 most are either a sophomore or junior in high school and the majority attend public school.  Gee, I wonder what the topic of study would be right around election time?  I'm sure that the schools would also be eager to ensure that they are registered to vote ... DEM that is.   
Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: Chosen Daughter on August 14, 2018, 02:04:31 am
At age 16 most are either a sophomore or junior in high school and the majority attend public school.  Gee, I wonder what the topic of study would be right around election time?  I'm sure that the schools would also be eager to ensure that they are registered to vote ... DEM that is.

Exactly.  My kids came home talking liberal 101 all the time in High School.  Its nothing but a social engineering opportunity for them.  We had many discussions.

My son is over the liberal thing now.  Its group speak.
Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: cato potatoe on August 14, 2018, 04:51:19 am
Anybody who cares about the country should want less people to vote.  Restrict priveleges to citizens aged 25 to the point at which they can no longer pass a civics test.  No votes for felons, illiterates, or mentally retarded.  Major corporations put the best and brightest people in decision making positions, but the average voter's IQ is 98 and dropping.  The results are anything but surprising.
Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 14, 2018, 09:05:55 am
Anybody who cares about the country should want less people to vote.  Restrict priveleges to citizens aged 25 to the point at which they can no longer pass a civics test.  No votes for felons, illiterates, or mentally retarded.  Major corporations put the best and brightest people in decision making positions, but the average voter's IQ is 98 and dropping.  The results are anything but surprising.
21 and a property owner or active duty military/veteran.
Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: InHeavenThereIsNoBeer on August 14, 2018, 11:12:30 am
At 14, at least I could have voted for Reagan. 

Just once in my life it would be nice to vote FOR someone.   
Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: Elderberry on August 14, 2018, 11:24:23 am
truth seeker wrote:
"I say 25 or older."

At least raise the voting age back to 21, as it traditionally was.

The only exception I would make for that:
Anyone who is younger than 21 holding a DD-214 stating honorable discharge from military service. They've earned their rights, early!

If they are Active Duty they should have the right to vote.
Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: Elderberry on August 14, 2018, 11:29:54 am
21 and a property owner or active duty military/veteran.

I have always thought that owning property should be a requirement. And of course our military and honorably discharged. And felons who have paid their debt to society and meet one of the other 2 requirements.
Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: Blizzardnh on August 14, 2018, 11:34:57 am
  No votes for felons, illiterates, or mentally retarded. 
Don't forget women. 888mouth
Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: Night Hides Not on August 14, 2018, 11:52:00 am
Interesting thread. As much as I understand the reasons for limiting the right to vote, I find them at odds with conservative philosophy and adherence to the Constitution.

A citizen who is 18 or older has the right to vote, and it should not be infringed. Flame away.
Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: Night Hides Not on August 14, 2018, 12:00:40 pm
At 14, at least I could have voted for Reagan. 

Just once in my life it would be nice to vote FOR someone.

I was 26 when I voted for Reagan the first time. What made it all the more glorious was changing the minds of my German neighbors. They were convinced that RR would start WW3, and pleaded with me to vote for Carter.

In the weeks leading up to the election, I spent 2-3 nights per week in my neighborhood gasthaus arguing the case for Reagan. It was pretty easy, Reagan's platform was clear, and I remembered how he served two productive terms as governor of California.

Best of all, I made my points in German to my neighbors...I had been in country nearly four years, and had lived off base for over 3 by that time, to include a temporary assignment in Northern Germany at a German base. IOW, I was highly conversational at that time.
Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: cato potatoe on August 14, 2018, 02:17:13 pm
Interesting thread. As much as I understand the reasons for limiting the right to vote, I find them at odds with conservative philosophy and adherence to the Constitution.

A citizen who is 18 or older has the right to vote, and it should not be infringed. Flame away.

But universal suffrage didn't come into play until recently, and few (if any) of the framers would approve of the system we have in place.  Everybody wants to complain about our representatives.  The simple fact of the matter is our politicians are unqualified because the voters are unqualified.  It is foolish to demand better results from our employees until we set standards for the hiring managers.
Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: truth_seeker on August 14, 2018, 02:44:10 pm
truth seeker wrote:
"I say 25 or older."

At least raise the voting age back to 21, as it traditionally was.

The only exception I would make for that:
Anyone who is younger than 21 holding a DD-214 stating honorable discharge from military service. They've earned their rights, early!
Active duty should be eligible to vote.
Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: Hoodat on August 14, 2018, 05:00:37 pm
And anyone collecting public assistance should not.
Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 15, 2018, 04:32:13 am
And anyone collecting public assistance should not.
Careful how that gets defined. Welfare is public assistance. Legitimate disability, social security, and military disability/retirement are not. Is an unpaid government guaranteed student loan "public assistance"? etc.

I agree that voting for those who will increase the freebie load on the taxpayer by those who reap the unearned benefits is a conflict of interest that cannot be ignored. For the same reason, non-citizens should not have the vote, either.
Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: thackney on August 15, 2018, 04:43:24 pm
I used to agree that the property ownership would be a good requirement for voting, have more skin in the game.

I have come to recognize the reality that folks would sell 1 square inch lots to allow others the right to vote.
Title: Re: Dem lawmaker seeks to lower voting age to 16
Post by: Smokin Joe on August 15, 2018, 06:24:34 pm
I used to agree that the property ownership would be a good requirement for voting, have more skin in the game.

I have come to recognize the reality that folks would sell 1 square inch lots to allow others the right to vote.
Well, someone, somewhere would make out on the subdivision, but lot access would be a mess. (Zoning laws could stop that, too),