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Title: With Its Power Grid On The Verge Of Failure, California Begs Residents To Change Their EV Charging R
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 23, 2021, 08:08:08 pm
It appears as though California’s plans to become an environmental and socialist utopia are running face first into reality.
The latest dose of reality came this week when the state, facing triple digit temperatures, began to “fret” about pressure on the state’s power grid as a result of everybody charging their electric vehicles all at once.

The state’s power grid operators have been telling residents to “relieve pressure” from the grid by charging their EVs at off-peak hours, Newsweek wrote.

Twice last week the California Independent System Operator (ISO) told residents to conserve energy voluntarily, including asking to charge their EVs at certain off-peak times. The ISO also suggested “avoiding use of large appliances and turning off extra lights,” the report says.


https://www.nationandstate.com/2021/06/22/with-its-power-grid-on-the-verge-of-failure-california-begs-residents-to-change-their-ev-charging-routines/

Why would any state wish to follow California's wisdom in going totally electric?

Title: Re: With Its Power Grid On The Verge Of Failure, California Begs Residents To Change Their EV Chargi
Post by: PeteS in CA on June 23, 2021, 08:13:58 pm
The possibility this past week of selective black-outs, which seem not have happened in Silicon Valley, has very very little to do with EV charging and pretty much everything to do with decades of not building enough power generation facilities and not sufficiently upgrading transmission lines.
Title: Re: With Its Power Grid On The Verge Of Failure, California Begs Residents To Change Their EV Chargi
Post by: GtHawk on June 23, 2021, 08:29:08 pm
The possibility this past week of selective black-outs, which seem not have happened in Silicon Valley, has very very little to do with EV charging and pretty much everything to do with decades of not building enough power generation facilities and not sufficiently upgrading transmission lines.
Looks like California's plan is to kick grid upgrades down the road, I guess they don't have the cash because they are using to give illegal aliens better lives than most Americans.
https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/californias-plan-to-crowdsource-distributed-energy-to-replace-grid-upgrades
Title: Re: With Its Power Grid On The Verge Of Failure, California Begs Residents To Change Their EV Chargi
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on June 23, 2021, 10:33:51 pm
The possibility this past week of selective black-outs, which seem not have happened in Silicon Valley, has very very little to do with EV charging and pretty much everything to do with decades of not building enough power generation facilities and not sufficiently upgrading transmission lines.
I'd say attacking the largest power company for fires and misdirecting its attention away from those upgrades to defend itself in court did a lot as well.
Title: Re: With Its Power Grid On The Verge Of Failure, California Begs Residents To Change Their EV Chargi
Post by: Free Vulcan on June 23, 2021, 10:59:40 pm
Well that didn't take long.
Title: Re: With Its Power Grid On The Verge Of Failure, California Begs Residents To Change Their EV Chargi
Post by: PeteS in CA on June 24, 2021, 03:15:39 am
I'd say attacking the largest power company for fires and misdirecting its attention away from those upgrades to defend itself in court did a lot as well.

Recently, maybe. But I was referring to the shutting down, obstructing and slowing of new power generation facilities and transmission lines upgrades that started in 1975 with Jerry Brown's first maladministration.
Title: Re: With Its Power Grid On The Verge Of Failure, California Begs Residents To Change Their EV Chargi
Post by: 240B on June 24, 2021, 03:51:33 am
California has to be the slickest State in the country.
They push/force their citizens to all drive electric "environmental?" cars, then they take away the electricy.
I love it!
Title: Re: With Its Power Grid On The Verge Of Failure, California Begs Residents To Change Their EV Chargi
Post by: PeteS in CA on June 24, 2021, 01:11:27 pm
????? Our family cars are all gas powered, and I'm sure that if I visited "Auto Row" I'd find that the vast majority of cars at every dealership (unless there's a Tesla dealership) are gas powered.
Title: Re: With Its Power Grid On The Verge Of Failure, California Begs Residents To Change Their EV Chargi
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on June 24, 2021, 01:28:18 pm
The moonbats pursue policies of energy conservation and renewable energy to the detriment of adding generating and transmission capacity.

I'd love to build a huge coal-fired generation plant in Mexico and sell the electricity to California, but, the granola crunchers wouldn't allow for the requisite transmission capacity to be built in California.

NIMBY - not in my back yard, but, that doesn't mean you cant put it in someone else's backyard.
Title: Re: With Its Power Grid On The Verge Of Failure, California Begs Residents To Change Their EV Chargi
Post by: PeteS in CA on June 24, 2021, 03:53:51 pm
IMO, it would take a decade of good governance and the Enviros being gagged and banished to the rumble seat just to get CA's generating capacity and transmission capacity adequate for normal summer heatwaves.
Title: California Dreamin’ Meets Reality: Don’t Charge Your Electric Vehicle During Heat Waves
Post by: rangerrebew on June 25, 2021, 04:10:15 pm

California Dreamin’ Meets Reality: Don’t Charge Your Electric Vehicle During Heat Waves
By
Anthony Watts -
June 25, 2021 0
 
By Anthony Watts

California’s “green dream” of going to 100 percent electric vehicles by 2035 is hitting a major reality roadblock. Last week, during a major heat wave, the California Independent System Operator (CAISO), the agency charged with managing the state’s electric grid, sent out a tweet suggesting electric car owners shouldn’t be charging their electric vehicles.

In the accompanying media release, CAISO had this to say: [emphasis mine]

“…grid operators again ask the public to conserve electricity to help balance supply and demand on the grid and avoid service disruptions due to extreme heat across much of the Southwest.”

“To be as comfortable as possible during the Flex Alert hours, consumers are also strongly encouraged to take these steps earlier in the day:

https://climaterealism.com/2021/06/california-dreamin-meets-reality-dont-charge-your-electric-vehicle-during-heat-waves/
Title: Re: California Dreamin’ Meets Reality: Don’t Charge Your Electric Vehicle During Heat Waves
Post by: 240B on June 25, 2021, 04:43:10 pm
Wait? Wait a minute. The Liberals told me that EVs are powered by rainbows, pixie dust, and unicorn farts.
Are the unicorns on strike? Or does electricity have to be generated by something more substantial than 'good intentions'?
Title: Re: With Its Power Grid On The Verge Of Failure, California Begs Residents To Change Their EV Chargi
Post by: Cyber Liberty on June 25, 2021, 06:49:12 pm
California:  "You must drive electric cars."

Also California:  "You can't charge your electric cars."
Title: Re: With Its Power Grid On The Verge Of Failure, California Begs Residents To Change Their EV Chargi
Post by: GtHawk on June 25, 2021, 08:09:41 pm
California:  "You must drive electric cars."

Also California:  "You can't charge your electric cars."
And when desperate people use gasoline fueled generators to charge their EV's the Eco Nazis will demand a ban of gasoline Fueled generators.