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Title: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: mystery-ak on April 18, 2021, 04:18:00 pm
George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59Rec8bwO10

Pam Key 18 Apr 2021

Former President George W. Bush said Sunday during an interview with “CBS Evening News” anchor Norah O’Donnell that he felt former President Donald Trump lacked the “humility” necessary to be an effective leader.

In the interview that aired on “CBS Sunday Morning,” O’Donnell said, “Though he has refrained from criticizing his successors, he told us there’s a clear difference between him and former President Donald Trump.”

Discussing Trump, Bush said, “I feel a responsibility to uphold the dignity of the office. I did then, and I do now. And I think it’s undignified to want to see my name in print all the time.”

He continued, “I think it basically sends a signal that I miss being famous and, you know, I want people to see me. Listen to me!  And, you know, I don’t. I really don’t.”

O’Donnell said, “So, you feel humbled by the office, it sounds like?”

Bush said, “Totally. To me, humility shows an understanding of self. It shows a belief in a higher power that is necessary to be an effective leader. And we were short of humility.”

O’Donnell clarified by asking, “In the last four years?”

Bush said, “Yeah, absolutely.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/04/18/george-w-bush-trump-lacked-the-humility-necessary-to-be-an-effective-leader/
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: dfwgator on April 18, 2021, 04:24:25 pm
Said the worst President, ever.  Should have just saved my gas and stayed home instead of voting for this guy twice.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Wingnut on April 18, 2021, 04:28:04 pm
Poor poor little Shrub.  I thought he was a young man of promise; but it appears he was a young man of promises.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: dfwgator on April 18, 2021, 04:29:59 pm
Poor poor little Shrub.  I thought he was a young man of promise; but it appears he was a young man of promises.

Where's that Yellow Cake, Georgie?
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 18, 2021, 04:36:58 pm
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Former President George W. Bush said Sunday during an interview with “CBS Evening News” anchor Norah O’Donnell that he felt former President Donald Trump lacked the “humility” necessary to be an effective leader.

What the hell do you know, monkey-man, about leadership -- or humility?  You sit in judgment of a man who accomplished more in four years than you have in your 74.

Here's your legacy, jackass:  First attack on US soil, killing more than 3,000 Americans, brought death and chaos to the Middle East, started our first multi-generational war, wasted trillions of American treasure and splashed American blood around the world in useless conflicts, crashed the economy and were disinvited to not one, but two, Republican National Conventions.

Oh, and you stopped drinking.  No word yet on the coke.




Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: mystery-ak on April 18, 2021, 04:43:29 pm
Bush: Republicans Need to Be ‘More Respectful About the Immigrant’
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/04/18/bush-republicans-need-to-be-more-respectful-about-the-immigrant/
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: dfwgator on April 18, 2021, 04:49:23 pm
Bush: Republicans Need to Be ‘More Respectful About the Immigrant’
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/04/18/bush-republicans-need-to-be-more-respectful-about-the-immigrant/

We respect LEGAL Immigrants, Georgie. 
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: dfwgator on April 18, 2021, 04:49:53 pm
And oh by the way, Georgie, Democrats still hate you.  Now we do, too.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: dfwgator on April 18, 2021, 05:00:39 pm
(https://thepeoplescube.com/images/various_uploads/Bush_Speaks_Against_Trump.jpg)
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: DCPatriot on April 18, 2021, 05:07:25 pm
What the hell do you know, monkey-man, about leadership -- or humility?  You sit in a judgment of a man who accomplished more in four years than you have in your 74.

Here's your legacy, jackass:  First attack on US soil, killing more than 3,000 Americans, brought death and chaos to the Middle East, started our first multi-generational war, wasted trillions of American treasure and splashed American blood around the world in useless conflicts, crashed the economy and were disinvited to not one, but two, Republican National Conventions.

Oh, and you stopped drinking.  No word yet on the coke.

ROFL!  Brutal!!     :laugh:     :beer:
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Wingnut on April 18, 2021, 05:15:17 pm
@dfwgator

Don't hold back now son, tell us how you really feel about Dubuwa
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Absalom on April 18, 2021, 05:23:20 pm
A measure from history.
During our formative decades we choose Adams, Jefferson, Madison and Monroe;
Men of character and vision who encouraged/permitted us to survive and prosper,
while our most recent decades have produced the likes of Bush and Trump, among
assorted buffoons, charlatans, frauds, hustlers and jackasses.
The Character of its Leaders/Citizens determine destiny for the nation/state as well
as its culture/society; so reflect a moment on the contrast between these individuals
and their impact on our reputation in the world and our sense of self.

Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: dfwgator on April 18, 2021, 05:39:49 pm
A measure from history.
During our formative decades we choose Adams, Jefferson, Madison and Monroe;
Men of character and vision who encouraged/permitted us to survive and prosper,
while our most recent decades have produced the likes of Bush and Trump, among
assorted buffoons, charlatans, frauds, hustlers and jackasses.
The Character of its Leaders/Citizens determine destiny for the nation/state as well
as its culture/society; so reflect a moment on the contrast between these individuals
and their impact on our reputation in the world and our sense of self.

This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here...

like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. F*ck Hope.

-George Carlin
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: DCPatriot on April 18, 2021, 05:45:39 pm
This is the best we can do folks. This is what we have to offer. It's what our system produces: Garbage in, garbage out. If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're going to get selfish, ignorant leaders. Term limits ain't going to do any good; you're just going to end up with a brand new bunch of selfish, ignorant Americans. So, maybe, maybe, maybe, it's not the politicians who suck. Maybe something else sucks around here...

like, the public. Yeah, the public sucks. There's a nice campaign slogan for somebody: 'The Public Sucks. F*ck Hope.

-George Carlin


Another good example of getting "... the government you deserve".

Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: DCPatriot on April 18, 2021, 05:51:35 pm
A measure from history.
During our formative decades we choose Adams, Jefferson, Madison and Monroe;
Men of character and vision who encouraged/permitted us to survive and prosper,
while our most recent decades have produced the likes of Bush and Trump, among
assorted buffoons, charlatans, frauds, hustlers and jackasses.
The Character of its Leaders/Citizens determine destiny for the nation/state as well
as its culture/society; so reflect a moment on the contrast between these individuals
and their impact on our reputation in the world and our sense of self.

What an ignorant post!  Even for you.

At the speed things are happening right now, you may look a bit foolish comparing "Bush and Trump, among assorted buffoons, charlatans, frauds, hustlers and jackasses".

GWB is a globalist and he may win the "visionary" game.  Question is only which quarter are we in right now?

You dragging President Trump into this thread ...  well, there you go again!   :laugh:
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Wingnut on April 18, 2021, 05:55:03 pm
What an ignorant post!  Even for you.

At the speed things are happening right now, you may look a bit foolish comparing "Bush and Trump, among assorted buffoons, charlatans, frauds, hustlers and jackasses".

GWB is a globalist and he may win the "visionary" game.  Question is only which quarter are we in right now?

You dragging President Trump into this thread ...  well, there you go again!   :laugh:

He makes Once-ler look sane.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: skeeter on April 18, 2021, 05:58:05 pm
Poor poor little Shrub.  I thought he was a young man of promise; but it appears he was a young man of promises.
Whenever I start feeling a bit too full of myself I reflect back on what I did with my vote in 2000 and 2004. Makes me wanna break out my hair shirt.

Whatta loser this guy is.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: dfwgator on April 18, 2021, 05:59:21 pm
Whenever I start feeling a bit too full of myself I reflect back on what I did with my vote in 2000 and 2004. Makes me wanna break out my hair shirt.

Whatta loser this guy is.

But then again, look who he ran against?   
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 18, 2021, 06:00:48 pm
And oh by the way, Georgie, Democrats still hate you.  Now we do, too.

 888high58888  @dfwgator
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: skeeter on April 18, 2021, 06:03:05 pm
But then again, look who he ran against?
Yeah I know. At least Gore keeps his yap shut.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: bigheadfred on April 18, 2021, 06:07:18 pm
I have no use for him.  I didn't vote for him. He is a glorified piss boy.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Wingnut on April 18, 2021, 06:10:13 pm
Yeah I know. At least Gore keeps his yap shut.

True,  Well except for that whole  "The Planet has a Fever" thing he parlayed into millions of dollars to line his pockets.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: skeeter on April 18, 2021, 06:40:51 pm
True,  Well except for that whole  "The Planet has a Fever" thing he parlayed into millions of dollars to line his pockets.
hey I appreciate a good scam as much as the next guy
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: dfwgator on April 18, 2021, 06:52:28 pm
True,  Well except for that whole  "The Planet has a Fever" thing he parlayed into millions of dollars to line his pockets.

Hey now, he's Super Cereal!
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Absalom on April 18, 2021, 07:13:19 pm
What an ignorant post!  Even for you.
At the speed things are happening right now, you may look a bit foolish comparing "Bush and Trump, among assorted buffoons, charlatans, frauds, hustlers and jackasses".
GWB is a globalist and he may win the "visionary" game.  Question is only which quarter are we in right now? You dragging President Trump into this thread ...  well, there you go again! 
---------------------------------
Hmmm...........got your knickers in a knot about Trumpet??? How sad.
A large dose of reality about the Smirkster-in-Chief, devoid of character
and integrity, is very long overdue. Yet Plain People firmly grasp this.


Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Bigun on April 18, 2021, 07:29:50 pm
G.W. Bush is the only U. S. President I have ever been personally acquainted with and turned out to be the biggest disappointment of my life.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: LegalAmerican on April 18, 2021, 09:22:31 pm
What the hell do you know, monkey-man, about leadership -- or humility?  You sit in judgment of a man who accomplished more in four years than you have in your 74.

Here's your legacy, jackass:  First attack on US soil, killing more than 3,000 Americans, brought death and chaos to the Middle East, started our first multi-generational war, wasted trillions of American treasure and splashed American blood around the world in useless conflicts, crashed the economy and were disinvited to not one, but two, Republican National Conventions.

Oh, and you stopped drinking.  No word yet on the coke.




And his wife was responsible for killing someone in car accident.  NWO POS.  BOHEMIAN GROVE. GAY ACTIVITIES.

 And my president, POTUS TRUMP,  does not smoke, does not drink any alcohol and never had done illegal drugs.  Does not even drink coffee.  He could be LDS. lol.  WORD OF WISDOM.

 888high58888
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: LMAO on April 18, 2021, 09:34:30 pm

And his wife was responsible for killing someone in car accident. 
 

It was an accident and she was a teenager

What's comical is watching people here attack GWB with the same talking points the left used during his tenure

Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Absalom on April 18, 2021, 09:41:20 pm
What an ignorant post!  Even for you.
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PS. Suggest you never use the words 'ignorant or ignorance' on anything
having your name attached; as it will immediately trigger instant recognition. 
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: roamer_1 on April 18, 2021, 09:45:08 pm
G.W. Bush is the only U. S. President I have ever been personally acquainted with and turned out to be the biggest disappointment of my life.

Don't feel too bad. Them worn in work gloves and worn out sh*tkickers had me thinking I was buying Texas... Turns out I got HighAnusPort.  **nononono*
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: skeeter on April 18, 2021, 09:45:45 pm
It was an accident and she was a teenager

What's comical is watching people here attack GWB with the same talking points the left used during his tenure
Isnt it though? Its pretty funny when ‘conservatives’ attack a Republican president using the same words the left does. Like during the past four years.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: dfwgator on April 18, 2021, 09:47:12 pm
It was an accident and she was a teenager

What's comical is watching people here attack GWB with the same talking points the left used during his tenure

Dumbya pulled the wool over our eyes.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: LegalAmerican on April 18, 2021, 09:51:47 pm
It was an accident and she was a teenager

What's comical is watching people here attack GWB with the same talking points the left used during his tenure

So what?  It is the truth. Why can't we speak about it?  No issue with gay BOHEMIAN GROVE?  HIS NWO stance?  Does NOT make him a 'republican'.  RINO.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Mesaclone on April 18, 2021, 10:16:02 pm
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PS. Suggest you never use the words 'ignorant or ignorance' on anything
having your name attached; as it will immediately trigger instant recognition.

You've demonstrated in your postings that you embody both of these traits, Absalom...so DC is simply calling a spade a spade. Your Trump-carping and petty hatred of the former...and future...President...is precisely what has put these Commie idiots in charge of the country. Hope you're happy...because the government we have today is courtesy of yourself and your fellow NT's. Trump beat "your guy", whoever that was, in the primary and you lacked the common sense and integrity to rally behind him against this Leftist tide...you and your ilk undermined the most conservative governing President in the post WW2 era for four years and did your damndest to help Joe Biden take over the White House. Well...congrats...you accomplished your mission. Pathetic...delusional...short sighted...and masochistic...all out of petty jealousy...these being the calling card traits of the NeverTrumper movement. 

People wonder why this party loses to the idiot Left. Well, it ain't because its not conservative enough...its because we have a bunch of prudes who turn into mini-Quislings every time they don't get "their guy" through a primary. They retch and moan and make idiotic claims...some beyond ludicrous like declaring there's no difference between a Trump and a Biden presidency. No one with an IQ over 75 would buy such stupidity, but like like used car Lemon-salesman they keep pitching such garbage because they think THAT's what it takes to get back into power within the party. Its disgusting...and unless it stops...we WILL lose this Republic permanently. Hell...it may already be lost thanks to these nitwits.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: dfwgator on April 18, 2021, 10:37:39 pm


People wonder why this party loses to the idiot Left. Well, it ain't because its not conservative enough...its because we have a bunch of prudes who turn into mini-Quislings every time they don't get "their guy" through a primary. They retch and moan and make idiotic claims...some beyond ludicrous like declaring there's no difference between a Trump and a Biden presidency. 

Even despite the nastiness between them in 2016, Ted Cruz never would have said something so idiotic about Trump.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: mystery-ak on April 18, 2021, 10:42:33 pm
It Looks Like the Bush Family Isn't Done Screwing up the Country
https://redstate.com/bonchie/2021/04/18/it-looks-like-the-bush-family-isnt-done-screwing-up-the-country-n363622
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Mesaclone on April 18, 2021, 10:53:39 pm
Even despite the nastiness between them in 2016, Ted Cruz never would have said something so idiotic about Trump.

Ted Cruz is a grown up. He doesn't quit fighting for what's right because he got his feelings hurt...or because Trump won the nomination (because he understood that Trump was and is fighting for the same goals, the same governance and the same philosophy as he himself is). I'll be honest, I often wish Trump had that same maturity and ability to self deprecate...but he does not. So be it, all leaders are flawed and its the movement that matters most.

Nonetheless...flaws and all....the Son of Gun fights like an angry barracuda for Conservatism, working folks and the nation as a whole....and makes ZERO apologies for waging that fight. No one else in OR out of the Conservative movement does that as tenaciously, effectively, and skillfully as does President Trump...not since we lost Rush, anyway. So he's the only dog we have in this fight who can actually win it...but we still need EVERY dog on the right to get into this fight...so while I respect those who dislike him for personal or philosophical reasons...the fight is already on and we don't get to switch out leaders while we under fire. Get over it...all your doing in undermining Trump is elevating the Romneys, Bush's, McCain's, Cheney's and McConnells....and ensuring we lose this fight and the Republic.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: roamer_1 on April 18, 2021, 10:57:26 pm
Hope you're happy...because the government we have today is courtesy of yourself and your fellow NT's.

Not happy... indifferent. Six of one...

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Trump beat "your guy", whoever that was, in the primary and you lacked the common sense and integrity to rally behind him against this Leftist tide...


Big government is big government, and I will not support it.

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you and your ilk undermined the most conservative governing President in the post WW2 era for four years

Not even close. Stop making the claim. Were he conservative, he would have had my support.

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and did your damndest to help Joe Biden take over the White House.

Make up your mind. Was it overwhelming voter fraud or lack of support for Tumpy - You can't have both.

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Well...congrats...you accomplished your mission. Pathetic...delusional...short sighted...and masochistic...all out of petty jealousy...these being the calling card traits of the NeverTrumper movement. 

'petty jealousy'? No. My support has always been clearly defined. Principles. Support the principles of Conservatism, with a record of doing so, and my vote is guaranteed. Next time, back a Conservative or STFU. I have a criteria, and that criteria is the very same as it has always been. Fail to meet that criteria and you will fail to receive my support. Simple as that. And you KNOW it.

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People wonder why this party loses to the idiot Left. Well, it ain't because its not conservative enough...its because we have a bunch of prudes who turn into mini-Quislings every time they don't get "their guy" through a primary. They retch and moan and make idiotic claims...

No, the reason the party loses is because it is wholly ineffective and has been my whole life. promises, promises, promises. And always a reason to throw Conservatives under the bus - Tumpy being absolutely no different in that.

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some beyond ludicrous like declaring there's no difference between a Trump and a Biden presidency.

Big government is big government. No damn difference at all. Take out Buydem's temporary EOs and Tumpy's temporary EOs and the two administrations are going to be remarkably the same. In FACT, when the Republicans held power they did virtually NOTHING of substance to reverse that tide you are so worried about - NOTHING.

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No one with an IQ over 75 would buy such stupidity, but like like used car Lemon-salesman they keep pitching such garbage because they think THAT's what it takes to get back into power within the party. Its disgusting...and unless it stops...we WILL lose this Republic permanently. Hell...it may already be lost thanks to these nitwits.

Then we will deserve to. And it will be your cupidity and your party's fecklessness and utter failure to defend that will be at fault - Because ONLY Conservative principles will fix it... And nothing else. You will NOT fix a damn thing until those principles are served, as millennia have proven over and over, and over again. And still you recommend compromise. Even though you know it will fail. And that is what is disgusting.

So go chase after your prince. That is not what conservatism does.


“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.” ― H.L. Mencken

And y'all fall for it every_single_time.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: libertybele on April 18, 2021, 10:58:18 pm
Quite frankly, I could give a flyin' flip what W thinks.  Notice that since the liberals stole the election, all the establishment idiots are coming out and voicing their opinions.  They had their chance to help this country and did nothing! They all need to shut up and  crawl back into the swamp.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Mesaclone on April 18, 2021, 11:46:31 pm
Not happy... indifferent. Six of one...

Big government is big government, and I will not support it.
You were a Cruz supporter...and as Cruz has made quite clear, there's not an iota of a difference between Cruz and Trump on the issues.

Not even close. Stop making the claim. Were he conservative, he would have had my support.
I'll never stop claiming that which is obvious on its face...Trump governed as Conservatively as any President in post WW2 America. Neither he...nor Cruz...nor Reagan...could have balanced the budge in 2017-2020 within the political context they faced. Yet...on every other issue...from Right to Life, to Second Ammendment rights, to free speech and Judiciary appointments...Trump was every bit the Conservative Reagan was. You simply lack an understanding of history...and of historical context...if you are arguing otherwise. Or perhaps you're just too stubborn to admit ever being wrong.

Make up your mind. Was it overwhelming voter fraud or lack of support for Tumpy - You can't have both.

'petty jealousy'? No. My support has always been clearly defined. Principles. Support the principles of Conservatism, with a record of doing so, and my vote is guaranteed. Next time, back a Conservative or STFU. I have a criteria, and that criteria is the very same as it has always been. Fail to meet that criteria and you will fail to receive my support. Simple as that. And you KNOW it.
Your principles are no more a guiding light for you than the rest of us here on this board...we are all here because we care and fight for conservatism. Trump fought for the very principles you claim to support, and you stood down and failed to fight with him against this Commie takeover...basically makes you a Conscientious Objector...you won't fight because our Conservative leader doesn't perfectly align with you on every single issue. Wahhh...grow up...no candidate, conservative or otherwise, is going to match with any of us on every single damn issue. Most of us have the courage to put our big boy pants on and fight anyway...because the GENERAL cause of conservative is more important than each fragment of a difference you have with the President and your fellow conservatives. If those of us who don't get EVERYTHING we want from a candidate take our ball and go home...we lose. Its that damn simple.

No, the reason the party loses is because it is wholly ineffective and has been my whole life. promises, promises, promises. And always a reason to throw Conservatives under the bus - Tumpy being absolutely no different in that.
You're right here, the party IS wholly ineffective. Because every time we put forward a strong and assertive candidate, the circular firing squad forms and we commit political hari-kari. Don't pretend you're not part of that idiotic process...you are embodying it right now as we type.

Big government is big government. No damn difference at all. Take out Buydem's temporary EOs and Tumpy's temporary EOs and the two administrations are going to be remarkably the same. In FACT, when the Republicans held power they did virtually NOTHING of substance to reverse that tide you are so worried about - NOTHING.
Your logic makes Reagan out to be a liberal stooge. Trump cut more government regulations than ANY president before him...he fought for what could be achieved, and would have fought for more and better minimalizing of government in a 2nd term...and likely will have that chance in 2024.

Then we will deserve to. And it will be your cupidity and your party's fecklessness and utter failure to defend that will be at fault - Because ONLY Conservative principles will fix it... And nothing else. You will NOT fix a damn thing until those principles are served, as millennia have proven over and over, and over again. And still you recommend compromise. Even though you know it will fail. And that is what is disgusting.
Yes. Conservative principles can and will fix it. If we win elections. The actions of you and your ilk are ensuring that we do not win...which means nothing conservative will be achieved and liberalism will dominate and potentially destroy the nation. Way to go....great strategy.

So go chase after your prince. That is not what conservatism does.
Your need to build a straw man is revealing of your argument's lack of depth and coherence. I have no prince. No one who supports Trump sees him as such....you are just mouthing an idiotic liberal meme to attack Trump voters. What we see in Trump is a man who fights FEROCIOUSLY...and effectively...for Conservatives and conservatism. Period.


“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.” ― H.L. Mencken

And y'all fall for it every_single_time.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: LegalAmerican on April 19, 2021, 12:18:03 am
Quite frankly, I could give a flyin' flip what W thinks.  Notice that since the liberals stole the election, all the establishment idiots are coming out and voicing their opinions.  They had their chance to help this country and did nothing! They all need to shut up and  crawl back into the swamp.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: LegalAmerican on April 19, 2021, 12:22:30 am
POTUS TRUMP has no flaws.  Maybe working too hard for America.  He does not smoke, drink alcohol, do no illegal drugs, does not even drink coffee.   ALL CONSERVATIVE TRAITS.   If anyone wants to complain about flaws, you are talking about yourselves.
ALPHA MALE POTUS....is just right. What we needed at the time.  Still do.  www.magapill.com
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: IsailedawayfromFR on April 19, 2021, 12:43:52 am
The main reason I now dislike W as he concentrates on dissing only Republicans, never Democrats.

Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: LegalAmerican on April 19, 2021, 12:47:39 am
So what?  It is the truth. Why can't we speak about it?  No issue with gay BOHEMIAN GROVE?  HIS NWO stance?  Does NOT make him a 'republican'.  RINO.


RINO. 
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: roamer_1 on April 19, 2021, 12:51:43 am
You were a Cruz supporter...and as Cruz has made quite clear, there's not an iota of a difference between Cruz and Trump on the issues.


I know. And because of that, I will have a very hard time voting for Cruz, if I ever have the chance again. He has sullied his good name and lost what, 10 points at the ACU to prove it.

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I'll never stop claiming that which is obvious on its face...Trump governed as Conservatively as any President in post WW2 America. Neither he...nor Cruz...nor Reagan...could have balanced the budge in 2017-2020 within the political context they faced. Yet...on every other issue...from Right to Life, to Second Ammendment rights, to free speech and Judiciary appointments...Trump was every bit the Conservative Reagan was. You simply lack an understanding of history...and of historical context...if you are arguing otherwise. Or perhaps you're just too stubborn to admit ever being wrong.


I easily admit when I am wrong - I am not wrong.

And it is not even a matter of balancing the budget - It is a matter of spending at TWICE the rate of Democrats. It is preposterous to write that off.

And Reagan's legacy is still very much with us, written in LAW - Even as Tumpy's is - Written in law and liberal as hell. Nearly everything you could point at that was conservative in Tump is now gone - Washed away. Nothing.

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Your principles are no more a guiding light for you than the rest of us here on this board...we are all here because we care and fight for conservatism. Trump fought for the very principles you claim to support,

No, he did not. He threw candy from the front of the parade. I said long ago it was worthless
 and soon to be gone, and here we are.

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and you stood down and failed to fight with him against this Commie takeover...basically makes you a Conscientious Objector...you won't fight because our Conservative leader doesn't perfectly align with you on every single issue.

No one is looking for perfection. Literally outspending the Democrats is no where near excusable. On that alone, for the egregious harm done in that alone, there is no way in hell you can stand on that bullcrap.

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Wahhh...grow up...no candidate, conservative or otherwise, is going to match with any of us on every single damn issue. Most of us have the courage to put our big boy pants on and fight anyway...because the GENERAL cause of conservative is more important than each fragment of a difference you have with the President and your fellow conservatives. If those of us who don't get EVERYTHING we want from a candidate take our ball and go home...we lose. Its that damn simple.

No, YOU grow up. The whole purpose of Conservatism in politics is to support the immovable principles of the conservative factions - ALL of them. That is what we are here for. That IS the general cause.  And it would be little surprise that Tumpy lost support from fiscal conservatives and libertarian minded conservatives. He stood against what they care about. He threw em under the bus. For that he gets to lose. Tough sh*t, there it is.

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You're right here, the party IS wholly ineffective. Because every time we put forward a strong and assertive candidate, the circular firing squad forms and we commit political hari-kari. Don't pretend you're not part of that idiotic process...you are embodying it right now as we type.

NONSENSE. He sure as hell wasn't strong and assertive when it comes to fiscal conservatism and libertarianism. No, he was strong and assertive AGAINST them. And no, I am not part of anything. I am directly opposed. And the fallout of this unparalleled waste of time should show you why.

Without a party in lockstep with Conservative principles, you will continue to lose every time. Chasing after princes and making them martyrs is nothing less than absurdity. If y'all were serious I would not oppose you. But you are not. Cherry-picking, just like the moderates - and using the very same arguments against me. IDENTICAL to McCain and Romney acolytes. Is it any wonder I can't see a difference.

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Your logic makes Reagan out to be a liberal stooge. Trump cut more government regulations than ANY president before him...he fought for what could be achieved, and would have fought for more and better minimalizing of government in a 2nd term...and likely will have that chance in 2024.

What he cut was still but a pittance. And likely it is all right back again.
No he would not have minimalized anything.- He would have spent even more money. It's what he does.

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Yes. Conservative principles can and will fix it. If we win elections. The actions of you and your ilk are ensuring that we do not win...which means nothing conservative will be achieved and liberalism will dominate and potentially destroy the nation. Way to go....great strategy.


NOTHING! Y'all have won NOTHING in thirty damn years. That dog don't hunt. It ain't me at fault - It's y'all. I walked off for non-performance and there ain't a single damn thing that's changed. You got NOTHING. AGAIN. Four years - Two of em with both houses - and nothing. The whole thing an utter waste of time.
That I predicted it should not be a surprise, or an offense.

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Your need to build a straw man is revealing of your argument's lack of depth and coherence. I have no prince. No one who supports Trump sees him as such....you are just mouthing an idiotic liberal meme to attack Trump voters. What we see in Trump is a man who fights FEROCIOUSLY...and effectively...for Conservatives and conservatism. Period.


Yes, indeed you DO. And it is a strategy that will never bear fruit. One man, no matter who he is, is not going to be effective, so I don't give a crap how ferociously he 'fights'. He will get nothing done. That's the problem with princes. You need a whole damn party on the same damn page. The minute you ain't got that, you'll get nothing. So the minute you compromise on those principles y'all claim to support is the very minute you have a party on more than one page... and you will lose. Period. No matter which prince you follow.

And that is precisely what happened again. Unity is found in those principles. That is what they are FOR. Unity in anything else is nothing but wasted motion. And here we are, again.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Absalom on April 19, 2021, 01:18:36 am

You've demonstrated in your postings that you embody both of these traits, Absalom...so DC is simply calling a spade a spade. Your Trump-carping and petty hatred of the former...and future...President...is precisely what has put these Commie idiots in charge of the country. Hope you're happy...because the government we have today is courtesy of yourself and your fellow NT's. Trump beat "your guy", whoever that was, in the primary and you lacked the common sense and integrity to rally behind him against this Leftist tide...you and your ilk undermined the most conservative governing President in the post WW2 era for four years and did your damndest to help Joe Biden take over the White House. Well...congrats...you accomplished your mission. Pathetic...delusional...short sighted...and masochistic...all out of petty jealousy...these being the calling card traits of the NeverTrumper movement. 

People wonder why this party loses to the idiot Left. Well, it ain't because its not conservative enough...its because we have a bunch of prudes who turn into mini-Quislings every time they don't get "their guy" through a primary. They retch and moan and make idiotic claims...some beyond ludicrous like declaring there's no difference between a Trump and a Biden presidency. No one with an IQ over 75 would buy such stupidity, but like like used car Lemon-salesman they keep pitching such garbage because they think THAT's what it takes to get back into power within the party. Its disgusting...and unless it stops...we WILL lose this Republic permanently. Hell...it may already be lost thanks to these nitwits.
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Hmm............since my phone is down, let me play Racket Ball w/your blathering's.
* "..........Trump-carping and petty hatred of the future POTUS.........." ???
    Um..........future of what??? Is he planning to move back to Bavaria, usurp
    Murky Merkel while shouting the name and legacy of his Grand-Pa???
* "..........our most conservative governing POTUS since WW2.........." ???
     Hmm..........actually he does remind of the rantings of Benito Mussolini !
As for Principled Conservatism, internalize 2 names, read and reflect; Pericles and Plato.
Then you might learn something.
Incidentally, our last Principled Conservative who sat in the Oval Office was James Madison!!!
Anyway, my phone just rang, so adios???

Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Wingnut on April 19, 2021, 01:24:08 am
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Hmm............since my phone is down, let me play Racket Ball w/your blathering's.
* "..........Trump-carping and petty hatred of the future POTUS.........." ???
    Um..........future of what??? Is he planning to move back to Bavaria, usurp
    Murky Merkel while shouting the name and legacy of his Grand-Pa???
* "..........our most conservative governing POTUS since WW2.........." ???
     Hmm..........actually he does remind of the rantings of Benito Mussolini !
As for Principled Conservatism, internalize 2 names, read and reflect; Pericles and Plato.
Then you might learn something.
Incidentally, our last Principled Conservative who sat in the Oval Office was James Madison!!!
Anyway, my phone just rang, so adios???
Douchebag your call was dropped
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: libertybele on April 19, 2021, 01:38:19 am
Douchebag your call was dropped

 :2popcorn:
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: libertybele on April 19, 2021, 01:42:57 am
The main reason I now dislike W as he concentrates on dissing only Republicans, never Democrats.

His 2nd term was a complete disaster and he turned out to be a huge disappointment!

The Bush family no longer holds any credibility nor integrity!
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: jmyrlefuller on April 19, 2021, 02:15:27 am
No issue with gay BOHEMIAN GROVE? 
The only person who takes that seriously is Alex Jones.

HIS NWO stance?  Does NOT make him a 'republican'.  RINO.
It's hard to call a person who holds that stance a RINO since so many people in the party hold the same stance. You'd have to conclude the whole party is rotten... which given your stances would probably be consistent.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: jmyrlefuller on April 19, 2021, 02:18:17 am
POTUS TRUMP has no flaws.  Maybe working too hard for America.  He does not smoke, drink alcohol, do no illegal drugs, does not even drink coffee.   ALL CONSERVATIVE TRAITS.   If anyone wants to complain about flaws, you are talking about yourselves.
ALPHA MALE POTUS....is just right. What we needed at the time.  Still do.  www.magapill.com
I don't want to live in a society where grabbing women by the nether regions is not considered a character flaw, but caffeine is.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: libertybele on April 19, 2021, 02:22:25 am
The only person who takes that seriously is Alex Jones.
 It's hard to call a person who holds that stance a RINO since so many people in the party hold the same stance. You'd have to conclude the whole party is rotten... which given your stances would probably be consistent.

The GOP in general is dead.  They offer no resistance to the DEMS.  They he'd a super majority for a couple of years and didn't do a darn thing. I am no longer a registered Republican.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Absalom on April 19, 2021, 02:38:31 am
What the hell do you know, monkey-man, about leadership -- or humility?  You sit in judgment of a man who accomplished more in four years than you have in your 74.
Here's your legacy, jackass:  First attack on US soil, killing more than 3,000 Americans, brought death and chaos to the Middle East, started our first multi-generational war, wasted trillions of American treasure and splashed American blood around the world in useless conflicts, crashed the economy and were disinvited to not one, but two, Republican National Conventions.
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Bush surely was a lightweight POTUS, yet he deserves honesty from history and
not an ignorant slander, from another Trump addict grinding an ax.
The assertion " First attack on us soil (WTC Attack)....." is too stupid for words.
During the War of 1812, Great Britain invaded Washington DC via sea in 1814,
burning it to the ground, including the White House, as well as numerous Capitol
Buildings; killing hundreds in the process.
When we embrace history, it will defeat brainless propaganda.


Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: libertybele on April 19, 2021, 02:48:09 am
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Bush surely was a flyweight POTUS, yet he deserves honesty from history and
not an ignorant slander, from another Trump addict grinding an ax.
" First attack on us soil (WTC Attack)....." /continued in a moment.

Honesty from history?  He FAILED.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: skeeter on April 19, 2021, 02:53:23 am
Honesty from history?  He FAILED.
Bush destabilized the Middle East. His wars killed thousands of Americans and wasted billions. Ancient Christian communities were wiped out because of his actions. Once his father was avenged he lost interest. At home he made normalizing illegal immigrants his signal goal. The man deserves exactly zero from us.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Idiot on April 19, 2021, 02:55:55 am
G.W. Bush is the only U. S. President I have ever been personally acquainted with and turned out to be the biggest disappointment of my life.
I agree wholeheartedly.  I used to sit behind him at Texas Rangers games. 
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: libertybele on April 19, 2021, 03:00:52 am
Bush destabilized the Middle East. His wars killed thousands of Americans and wasted billions. Ancient Christian communities were wiped out because of his actions. Once his father was avenged he lost interest. At home he made normalizing illegal immigrants his signal goal. The man deserves exactly zero from us.

 :amen:
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Hoodat on April 19, 2021, 03:02:05 am
I am probably the biggest Bush apologist on this platform.  I know a lot of you think lowly of him, while I continue to defend his record.  He had his successes and failings as did Trump.  However in this instance, he is dead wrong to comment on a successive President.  The truth of the matter is that Bush and Trump have totally different leadership styles.  Bush is a great team builder, while Trump is an entrepreneur.  Bush's style won't work on Trump just as Trump's style won't work with Bush.

Trump's leadership style is not indicative of his personal humility.  Both Bush and Trump possess it.  It's just that Trump's leadership isn't defined by it while Bush's is.

If in 2006, Bush had exhibited Trump's leadership qualities, then he could have gotten the Social Security Privatization bill passed which would have resulted in GOP control of everything for the next quarter century.  And if Trump had possessed Bush's team-building qualities, he wouldn't have found himself betrayed by so many of those serving under him.

No one is perfect, neither Bush nor Trump.  But they both did a good job with what they had.  Both were far better than Clinton, Obama, or whoever is controlling the white house now.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: catfish1957 on April 19, 2021, 03:30:13 am
George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59Rec8bwO10



If I didn't know who this was, I'd think this was a poor soul of an IQ 30-80. 

In any case, too bad we don't "do-overs" on our 2000 and 2004 votes.  I'd sure would have voted for a real conservative.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: catfish1957 on April 19, 2021, 03:32:13 am
I am probably the biggest Bush apologist on this platform.  I know a lot of you think lowly of him, while I continue to defend his record.  He had his successes and failings as did Trump.  However in this instance, he is dead wrong to comment on a successive President.  The truth of the matter is that Bush and Trump have totally different leadership styles.  Bush is a great team builder, while Trump is an entrepreneur.  Bush's style won't work on Trump just as Trump's style won't work with Bush.

Trump's leadership style is not indicative of his personal humility.  Both Bush and Trump possess it.  It's just that Trump's leadership isn't defined by it while Bush's is.

If in 2006, Bush had exhibited Trump's leadership qualities, then he could have gotten the Social Security Privatization bill passed which would have resulted in GOP control of everything for the next quarter century.  And if Trump had possessed Bush's team-building qualities, he wouldn't have found himself betrayed by so many of those serving under him.

No one is perfect, neither Bush nor Trump.  But they both did a good job with what they had.  Both were far better than Clinton, Obama, or whoever is controlling the white house now.

You and i agree on a lot of matters on this forum, but his ME policy has to be the biggest F up's of any POTUS of the past 50 years.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: catfish1957 on April 19, 2021, 03:40:01 am
Has anyone noticed that "W" since being POTUS has spoken more negatively against Trump than the Clintons, Bidens, and Obamas combined?

W ended up being a Trojan Horse, and he still is doing more damage than good.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Hoodat on April 19, 2021, 03:46:44 am
You and i agree on a lot of matters on this forum, but his ME policy has to be the biggest F up's of any POTUS of the past 50 years.

Nope.  Don't see it that way.   He was handed an awful policy from the previous two administrations.  Then 9/11 happened.  Bush pulled off the impossible.  It took him 6 years, but he pulled it off.  Then Obama completely trashed it all.

Looking at where we were in 2008, I will take that any day over what we've had since in regards to Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan.  Not to mention a free air base in one of the most strategic spots on the globe.  Total cost for both Iraq and Afghanistan, around $900 billion.  Obama spent over $600 billion for Afghanistan alone.

The Iraq war never would have happened if we hadn't dropped the ball from 1992 onward.  A cease fire agreement was in place.  We didn't hold them to it.  We blew it. 
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Hoodat on April 19, 2021, 03:49:51 am
Has anyone noticed that "W" since being POTUS has spoken more negatively against Trump than the Clintons, Bidens, and Obamas combined?

Like I said, he needs to STFU.  He shouldn't be giving interviews on policy at all.  The same press that lied incessantly about him for a decade is now acting like they're friends.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 19, 2021, 04:24:56 am
Bush's style won't work on Trump just as Trump's style won't work with Bush.

This is because there is a profound difference between the two men.  George W. Bush to his core is a liar; Donald J. Trump is not.

Donald J. Trump fights for what he says he will do; George W. Bush fights to hide his true intentions.

If George W. Bush truly understood humility, he would know he is not fit to scrape the mud off the bottom of Donald J. Trump's boots.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Sighlass on April 19, 2021, 04:59:14 am
Has anyone noticed that "W" since being POTUS has spoken more negatively against Trump than the Clintons, Bidens, and Obamas combined?

W ended up being a Trojan Horse, and he still is doing more damage than good.

His wife and kids lead him around by the ......., and they were all dyed in the wool liberals.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Sighlass on April 19, 2021, 05:01:55 am
This is because there is a profound difference between the two men.  George W. Bush to his core is a liar; Donald J. Trump is not.

Donald J. Trump fights for what he says he will do; George W. Bush fights to hide his true intentions.

If George W. Bush truly understood humility, he would know he is not fit to scrape the mud off the bottom of Donald J. Trump's boots.

Lock her up... opps I mean Hillary has gone through enough already... leave her alone.

Planned Parenthood is bad... Opps I mean they do great things.

Yeah, Trump is a man of his word (as long as the wind is blowing in that direction).
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Hoodat on April 19, 2021, 05:15:09 am
George W. Bush to his core is a liar

Ah, the same old tired Democrat talking points.  I will ask again the same question I have been asking for nearly the last two decades.  What was the lie, @Right_in_Virginia ?
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 19, 2021, 05:21:33 am
Lock her up... opps I mean Hillary has gone through enough already... leave her alone.

Planned Parenthood is bad... Opps I mean they do great things.

Yeah, Trump is a man of his word (as long as the wind is blowing in that direction).

Your bitterness pleases me.   happy77
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Sighlass on April 19, 2021, 05:36:32 am
Your bitterness pleases me.   happy77

(https://i.postimg.cc/pTWDnBRd/Blinker.jpg)

I just don't wear blinkers.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 19, 2021, 06:16:25 am
Ah, the same old tired Democrat talking points.  I will ask again the same question I have been asking for nearly the last two decades.  What was the lie, @Right_in_Virginia ?

I'm not quoting democrat talking points @Hoodat  and no democrat would quote me on the topic of George Walker Bush, aka Shrub.

George W. Bush did nothing for Americans.  Nothing.  He spent his presidency feeding the military industrial complex with our blood and treasure, promoting open borders for workers to "do the jobs Americans won't do", surrendering American workers to global elitists and their economic worldview leaving our economy and jobs market in taters.  And, now I understand that Bush was not -- contrary to wishful thinking -- a victim of this destruction, but one of its authors. 

George W. Bush ushered in the era of Obama; and as recent history has shown, he is quite pleased with this.  Shrub is even more pleased with the installation of Obama II.

The big lie is:  George W. Bush was an American president.  He was not.  He was a globalist collaborator who spent eight years screwing the American citizen.

I have defended GWB for years.  But it's now clear he lied to me and has risen from his stupor to fight me in this political war for our nation.  This is now personal.  I want Bush and his collaborators' total political defeat and for history to remember him truthfully --- one of America's biggest mistakes.


                                   (https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20210121&t=2&i=1548516306&w=780&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=2021-01-21T011231Z_38198_MRPRC2VBL90PGCZ_RTRMADP_0_USA-BIDEN-INAUGURATION)
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Hoodat on April 19, 2021, 06:42:13 am
Again, what was the lie?
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: sneakypete on April 19, 2021, 07:00:32 am
Somebody needs to explain to that retard that Trump doesn't have as much to be humble about as he does.

Does anyone know who his handler is now that his mama has died?
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: sneakypete on April 19, 2021, 07:04:58 am
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Bush surely was a lightweight POTUS, yet he deserves honesty from history and
not an ignorant slander, from another Trump addict grinding an ax.
The assertion " First attack on us soil (WTC Attack)....." is too stupid for words.
During the War of 1812, Great Britain invaded Washington DC via sea in 1814,
burning it to the ground, including the White House, as well as numerous Capitol
Buildings; killing hundreds in the process.

When we embrace history, it will defeat brainless propaganda.

@Absalom

ROFLMAO! I find it hilarious you had to go back to 1812 to come up with your defense of Boy Jorge.

Desperation is never pretty.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: sneakypete on April 19, 2021, 07:08:52 am
If I didn't know who this was, I'd think this was a poor soul of an IQ 30-80. 

 

 @catfish1957

I'm curious about what it is that makes you think you are wrong?
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: sneakypete on April 19, 2021, 07:10:15 am
Has anyone noticed that "W" since being POTUS has spoken more negatively against Trump than the Clintons, Bidens, and Obamas combined?

W ended up being a Trojan Horse, and he still is doing more damage than good.

@catfish1957

 :amen:
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: roamer_1 on April 19, 2021, 07:13:11 am
If in 2006, Bush had exhibited Trump's leadership qualities, then he could have gotten the Social Security Privatization bill passed which would have resulted in GOP control of everything for the next quarter century.  And if Trump had possessed Bush's team-building qualities, he wouldn't have found himself betrayed by so many of those serving under him.

That's probably fair.

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No one is perfect, neither Bush nor Trump.  But they both did a good job with what they had.  Both were far better than Clinton, Obama, or whoever is controlling the white house now.

I will disagree on that. And it's a mighty low bar. If that's the best we can do, we are done for. Though we are probably done for anyhoo at this point, thanks largely to Boosh and Tumpy.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: sneakypete on April 19, 2021, 07:15:09 am
This is because there is a profound difference between the two men. George W. Bush to his core is a liar; Donald J. Trump is not.

Donald J. Trump fights for what he says he will do; George W. Bush fights to hide his true intentions.

If George W. Bush truly understood humility, he would know he is not fit to scrape the mud off the bottom of Donald J. Trump's boots.

@Right_in_Virginia

I have to disagree with that one. I don't think he is smart enough to be a liar. I think he is the alleged Republican version of Slow Joe.

I don't know if he was born retarded,or if years of drinking and drug use fried what little brain he had,but I would pay cash money to see him and Biden debating live on tv with no handlers present,and no "ear buds".

Maybe have someone like Steve Martin as the moderator asking the questions.

Hell,comedy central would pay big bucks to air that one!

Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: sneakypete on April 19, 2021, 07:24:40 am
Dumbya pulled the wool over our eyes.

@dfwgator

 Truly,he didn't. Ray Charles could tell at a glance he was a borderline retard.

What got him elected was he seemed to be a good-natured borderline retard,and I am GUESSING that without his mama telling him what to do,that is what he would have been.

Add to that the retard he was running against,and he almost seemed smart. THAT boy was record-setting D....U....M.

She was a evil bitch,and she was the one pulling the strings that made his mouth open and close.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: sneakypete on April 19, 2021, 07:30:25 am
The main reason I now dislike W as he concentrates on dissing only Republicans, never Democrats.

@IsailedawayfromFR

You say that just like there is something new about it.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: sneakypete on April 19, 2021, 07:34:53 am
(https://i.postimg.cc/pTWDnBRd/Blinker.jpg)

I just don't wear blinkers.

@Sighlass

ROFLMAO!

BTW,I believe they are called "blinders".
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: christian on April 19, 2021, 07:41:35 am
Bush and Trumpy are the cause of our doom, not the democrats slick willy, Obama, Biden?
Seriously, are illegal substances being passed around here?    The hate, despise, annihilate/destroy America crowd is politically owned by Soros's dogs, the democrat party  (and some here).  Blame shift to give the perps (democrats) a pass?  In what parallel universe?
 :silly: :silly: :silly:  The clowns just keep clowning around!  Comediennes roam about.
 :mauslaff: 000hehehehe :mauslaff:
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Sighlass on April 19, 2021, 07:55:35 am
@Sighlass

ROFLMAO!

BTW,I believe they are called "blinders".

Yeah, we call them blinders here too, but I noticed that wiki has the main term as "blinkers", so I called them that. The wiki talk page on the subject is a mismatch of discussion on what people have called it and heard it called.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blinkers_(horse_tack)
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 19, 2021, 09:07:46 am
Again, what was the lie?

I answered you @Hoodat   Reread my post to you.  It's plain as day. 
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: roamer_1 on April 19, 2021, 09:36:01 am
Bush and Trumpy are the cause of our doom, not the democrats slick willy, Obama, Biden?
[...]
Blame shift to give the perps (democrats) a pass?  In what parallel universe?


INDEED they are to blame. They represent the champion who was raised up to combat the Democrats.
That champion did not fight. He never raised his sword. In fact, he spent his time in Democrat bars and parties, with fast Democrat women.
And he likes it like that.

FECKLESS. *SPIT*
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: catfish1957 on April 19, 2021, 11:52:12 am
@catfish1957

I'm curious about what it is that makes you think you are wrong?

lol...you got admit, that screen shot of his YouTube video is not one of someone of "intellect"
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: DCPatriot on April 19, 2021, 12:34:40 pm
Just throwing this out here....

Pres. GWB's presidency turned more than once due to his consulting with not only his globalist father Pres. GHWB, but also his mother.

I have to believe that his ability to turn his life of drugs and alcohol around ...unlike Hunter Biden, was beat into his head regularly...to become the most powerful man in the world?

Sure his mother, Barbara had a strong opinion on it.

For example..."Compassionate Conservatism" was born out of his personal experience in his family with the Hispanic culture.  It also show up in the manner he treated Saddam's retreating forces from Kuwait.  He chose The Highway of Death as opposed to expanding the conflict and going into Baghdad and finishing the job.

Also...marching into Iraq as personal revenge for the subsequent failed assassination attempt on his father.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: catfish1957 on April 19, 2021, 12:43:04 pm
For example..."Compassionate Conservatism" was born out of his personal experience in his family with the Hispanic culture. 


The term compassionate conservative makes me puke. Just like that kinder gentler shit his pop would say.  The Bushies turned hardline Goldwater / Reagan conservatives into the whimp bleep capitulating GOP(e) pukes that they are today. 

Overall, he and his dad's tenure were a big NEGATIVE, not only for the country, but for the GOP.  Hopefully we have seen the last of them on the national stage.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: dfwgator on April 19, 2021, 12:46:31 pm

The term compassionate conservative makes me puke. Just like that kinder gentler shit his pop would say.  The Bushies turned hardline Goldwater / Reagan conservatives into the whimp bleep capitulating GOP(e) pukes that they are today. 

Overall, he and his dad's tenure were a big NEGATIVE, not only for the country, but for the GOP.  Hopefully we have seen the last of them on the national stage.

"Compassionate Conservatism" is neither.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: catfish1957 on April 19, 2021, 12:51:36 pm
"Compassionate Conservatism" is neither.

After helping fund these f'n slug entitlement junkies my entire life with my tax dollars, I am anything but compassionate.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Bigun on April 19, 2021, 01:34:35 pm
Quote
If in 2006, Bush had exhibited Trump's leadership qualities, then he could have gotten the Social Security Privatization bill passed which would have resulted in GOP control of everything for the next quarter century.  And if Trump had possessed Bush's team-building qualities, he wouldn't have found himself betrayed by so many of those serving under him.

This is true @Hoodat but he decided to listen to the likes of Karl Rove and Karen Hughes instead and over the cliff he went on domestic policy.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Hoodat on April 19, 2021, 02:02:26 pm
I answered you @Hoodat   Reread my post to you.  It's plain as day.

Yep, that't the exact same response I get from Democrats.  If you can't come up with one, just say so.

I can accept the fact that you are to the left of Bush on things like trade.  But it doesn't make him a liar.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: txradioguy on April 19, 2021, 02:08:41 pm
As much as I love how Bush did things to help the military during his 8 years in office...this "humility" he talks about made him a doormat for the Dems during those same 8 years.  Especially after the 2006 midterms.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: txradioguy on April 19, 2021, 02:13:13 pm
Bush and Trumpy are the cause of our doom, not the democrats slick willy, Obama, Biden?
Seriously, are illegal substances being passed around here?    The hate, despise, annihilate/destroy America crowd is politically owned by Soros's dogs, the democrat party  (and some here).  Blame shift to give the perps (democrats) a pass?  In what parallel universe?
 :silly: :silly: :silly:  The clowns just keep clowning around!  Comediennes roam about.
 :mauslaff: 000hehehehe :mauslaff:

None of them are clean...all bear a piece of the blame for where we are right now.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: dfwgator on April 19, 2021, 02:32:55 pm
None of them are clean...all bear a piece of the blame for where we are right now.

The voters have a lot to do with it, too.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: txradioguy on April 19, 2021, 02:34:22 pm
The voters have a lot to do with it, too.

Yeah but a lot of people vote the "lesser of two evils" because they feel there are no other choices.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: dfwgator on April 19, 2021, 02:51:03 pm
And Dumbya lacked the "brains".
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Hoodat on April 19, 2021, 02:51:56 pm
I will disagree on that. And it's a mighty low bar. If that's the best we can do, we are done for. Though we are probably done for anyhoo at this point, thanks largely to Boosh and Tumpy.

Yes, it is a low bar.  And yes, we are done for.  I just get sick of hearing the 2016 Republicans mouthing off the same dishonist Democrat rhetoric we heard while Bush was in office.  Bush definitely made his share of mistakes (as did Trump).  So people should call them out on that instead of parroting lies about the Iraq War costing several trillion dollars and such.

The hallmark of his Presidency would have been Social Security privatization.  But he couldn't even get his own party fully on board.  And he repeated the mistake of his father by trusting Democrats.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: sneakypete on April 19, 2021, 03:29:36 pm
Yes, it is a low bar.  And yes, we are done for.  I just get sick of hearing the 2016 Republicans mouthing off the same dishonist Democrat rhetoric we heard while Bush was in office.  Bush definitely made his share of mistakes (as did Trump).  So people should call them out on that instead of parroting lies about the Iraq War costing several trillion dollars and such.

The hallmark of his Presidency would have been Social Security privatization.  But he couldn't even get his own party fully on board.   

@Hoodat

The Bush Crime Family ARE Dims. They have ALWAYS been Dims. They left the northeast and moved to Texas because all the Dim political positions of importance were already filled there,and moved to Texas,where they suddenly became Republicans and were telling people they are conservatives.

It was the price they had to pay to kick off a family political dynasty.

Unfortunately for them,all of Babs lil chill-runs were born as borderline idiots,and there is some question as to which side of the border some of them are on.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Victoria33 on April 19, 2021, 03:31:11 pm
It was an accident and she was a teenager  What's comical is watching people here attack GWB with the same talking points the left used during his tenure
@LMAO
@mystery-ak
@Absalom

I was working in Texas politics during his time as governor and President.  I knew him, was with him numerous times.  After both his campaigns, he sent us an invitation to his inauguration. 

I knew his Mother,  one of our county Republican Party judges, Betty, looked identical to her and George would hug her when she was with us.  He was President when the National Republican Party gave me a Certificate of Appreciation for my work, and George and Cheney signed it.

I said the above to show I knew him and family away from politics, he just being himself.  I would vote for him today. 
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: roamer_1 on April 19, 2021, 03:34:14 pm
Yes, it is a low bar.  And yes, we are done for.  I just get sick of hearing the 2016 Republicans mouthing off the same dishonist Democrat rhetoric we heard while Bush was in office.  Bush definitely made his share of mistakes (as did Trump).  So people should call them out on that instead of parroting lies about the Iraq War costing several trillion dollars and such.


That's right. I didn't mind the war. In fact the war is the only reason I voted for his second term. I regret that vote entirely.

Quote
The hallmark of his Presidency would have been Social Security privatization.  But he couldn't even get his own party fully on board.  And he repeated the mistake of his father by trusting Democrats.

YEP. That was foregone. There was no way  that money spigot was going to stop flowing into government coffers.

Like I have pointed out before, Republican PTB are in favor of liberalism. That is what we get when the books are reckoned. And it was Booshes own wing that stopped that privatization - Which I am sure he knew was coming - So the whole thing was nothing more than a feigned play so they could say . "Sorry, we tried  :shrug:".

SOSDD.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Absalom on April 19, 2021, 04:14:58 pm
@Absalom
ROFLMAO! I find it hilarious you had to go back to 1812 to come up with your defense of Boy Jorge.
Desperation is never pretty.
---------------------------------------
Hmm....................hilarious, eh?
Was neither defending nor attacking Bush, simply applying history as our teacher of reality.
Try a book or more realistically, find someone to read to you.
Who knows, you might learn something?
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: BassWrangler on April 19, 2021, 05:16:40 pm
And George W Bush lacked the courage necessary to be an effective leader.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: sneakypete on April 19, 2021, 05:52:39 pm
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Hmm....................hilarious, eh?
Was neither defending nor attacking Bush, simply applying history as our teacher of reality.
Try a book or more realistically, find someone to read to you.
Who knows, you might learn something?

@Absalom

Awful defensive about your alleged intelligence,ain't ya,Bubba?
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 19, 2021, 07:50:02 pm
Yep, that't the exact same response I get from Democrats.  If you can't come up with one, just say so.

I can accept the fact that you are to the left of Bush on things like trade.  But it doesn't make him a liar.

Stop posting like a jackass @Hoodat

George W Bush is a liar ... presenting one face to "republicans" and another to our political opponents -- his first true love.

He damn near destroyed this nation -- ruined countless lives, destroyed the economy, set the world on fire, sent our young to suffer needless lifelong disabilities and death and formed political and personal alliances with Barack Obama.  This elitist piece of shit wanted global acceptance more than American security and success.  And he still does.

I don't give a rat's furry ass if you agree with me, but don't effing lie about and insult me  --- even if it is your only defense of this lying p*ick known as Shrub.

Please, put on your big boy pants; agree to disagree and move on.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on April 19, 2021, 07:54:16 pm
(https://s3.reutersmedia.net/resources/r/?m=02&d=20210121&t=2&i=1548516306&w=780&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&sq=&r=2021-01-21T011231Z_38198_MRPRC2VBL90PGCZ_RTRMADP_0_USA-BIDEN-INAUGURATION)
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: MOD4 on April 19, 2021, 08:17:28 pm
Please discuss the topic without sniping at each other.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Absalom on April 19, 2021, 09:20:52 pm
@Absalom
Awful defensive about your alleged intelligence, ain't ya, Bubba?
------------------------
Thank you so much for your concern.
I'll try harder in the future.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: sneakypete on April 19, 2021, 10:39:21 pm
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Thank you so much for your concern.
I'll try harder in the future.

@Absalom

Thank you,and I wish you luck.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Hoodat on April 19, 2021, 11:39:29 pm
Stop posting like a jackass @Hoodat

George W Bush is a liar ...

@Right_in_Virginia

For the third time, what was the lie?


Please, put on your big boy pants; agree to disagree and move on.

I'm not the one here having the petulant meltdown here because I got caught posting something I couldn't back up.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: dfwgator on April 19, 2021, 11:40:04 pm
   Wow, some people never learn (and you know who you are).  They voted for GWB twice and lo and behold they did the same thing for Trump, TWICE!!!

We voted against Democrats.  Not that in Bushes case there was much difference.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: bigheadfred on April 19, 2021, 11:48:21 pm
GWB is a murderer and should have been hung from the gates a long time ago.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Wingnut on April 19, 2021, 11:54:08 pm
Can't we all get along till MN blows the fuk up?
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Hoodat on April 19, 2021, 11:55:51 pm
Can't we all get along till MN blows the fuk up?

I will be riding public transportation through Atlanta this time tomorrow.  What are my chances of making it to the airport unscathed?
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Wingnut on April 20, 2021, 12:03:41 am
I will be riding public transportation through Atlanta this time tomorrow.  What are my chances of making it to the airport unscathed?

The African Expressway?   You are so screwed.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Hoodat on April 20, 2021, 12:05:51 am
It's the Anybody Expressway, except not very express.  It also gets me to the airport for $2.50.

btw, being big and crazy goes a long way towards protecting oneself.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: libertybele on April 20, 2021, 12:08:09 am
I will be riding public transportation through Atlanta this time tomorrow.  What are my chances of making it to the airport unscathed?

Yikes...  I think taking any public transportation in any major city is risky. Secondly, I think a lot is going to depend on when Chauvin's verdict is announced.  If you can make it in and out of the airport and back home before then, I'd say your odds will be better.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: sneakypete on April 20, 2021, 12:42:09 am
Can't we all get along till MN blows the fuk up?

@Wingnut

Should be possible,given that is only a day or two away.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: sneakypete on April 20, 2021, 12:43:18 am
I will be riding public transportation through Atlanta this time tomorrow.  What are my chances of making it to the airport unscathed?

@Hoodat

My best SERIOUS advise is "Take a taxi". If you don't and you are white,chances are you WILL be getting ratpacked.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: jafo2010 on April 20, 2021, 12:49:24 am
George Bush is a globalist, and that makes him a traitor, fully worthy of being treated as such.

This POS delivered us Obama.  Uggh!  He should hide his face in shame for eternity.  He not only gave us Obama, but he gave us Biden!!!!  Bush, major POS!!!

At least I can look at myself in the mirror knowing I did not vote for this jackal.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: corbe on April 20, 2021, 12:49:27 am
I will be riding public transportation through Atlanta this time tomorrow.  What are my chances of making it to the airport unscathed?

   It should be safer than asking certain people questions in here.  @Hoodat
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: jafo2010 on April 20, 2021, 12:51:50 am
If you are traveling while the sun is up, you will be fine.  If not, you are at risk.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: LegalAmerican on April 20, 2021, 12:56:53 am
George Bush is a globalist, and that makes him a traitor, fully worthy of being treated as such.

This POS delivered us Obama.  Uggh!  He should hide his face in shame for eternity.  He not only gave us Obama, but he gave us Biden!!!!  Bush, major POS!!!

At least I can look at myself in the mirror knowing I did not vote for this jackal.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: christian on April 20, 2021, 02:30:36 am
My gosh they came up with a novel idea, the last election, blame both sides equally, or give democrats a pass just like NOW.  For the clueless, how did that tactic work out then, its how its going to work out now.  Heavily to the democrats advantage.  Bashing the few defeated, the beaten equally to the unrepentant winners of a great many.  Is there a competition for now many can be made fools here ?  There are fools and then there are damn fools.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Absalom on April 20, 2021, 02:50:59 am
Bush and Trumpy are the cause of our doom, not the democrats slick willy, Obama, Biden?
Seriously, are illegal substances being passed around here?    The hate, despise, annihilate/destroy America crowd is politically owned by Soros's dogs, the democrat party  (and some here).  Blame shift to give the perps (democrats) a pass?  In what parallel universe?
 :silly: :silly: :silly:  The clowns just keep clowning around!  Comediennes roam about.
 :mauslaff: 000hehehehe :mauslaff:
------------------------
Taking a cue from Curley, Larry and Moe, might be time
to re-label the Posse, The  Multi-Stooges.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: christian on April 22, 2021, 04:15:28 pm
After democrats take over nearly all major factions of government, idiots tell us now lets share the blame equally.  Where does b.s. like that come from, DNC or George Soros ?  Is brain activity becoming extinct ?
 :smokin: :smokin: :smokin:
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: DefiantMassRINO on April 22, 2021, 04:48:10 pm

... from the President who choked on a pretzel ...

(https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/kensmind/1278588/351630/351630_original.jpg)
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: conservativevoter on April 22, 2021, 07:55:17 pm
That's a funny headline for this subject, since all George Bush was interested in was kissing the ass of the cocktail set. :cool:
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 03, 2021, 04:43:57 am
hey I appreciate a good scam as much as the next guy

Romney has issues with Potus TRUMP, but not biden and Hunter.  What an azz. scamming bidens.  Any words about biden Bushy?  They all just need to STFU. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJVKNXVl3Zk&t=1s
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: LegalAmerican on May 03, 2021, 04:46:14 am
... from the President who choked on a pretzel ...

(https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/kensmind/1278588/351630/351630_original.jpg)

Oh, that bruise by his eye means something.  There is a 'club' that they do that to people. PEDO'S. SATANIST ETC. There is a video on it. Same with Romney. Bohemian grove. 
--------
1 month ago
U people know better...black eye club special member...like the others...disgusting evil people

1 month ago
He's in the black eye club.

1 month ago
Congratulations mitt Romney you are now official a member of bohemian groove Illuminati child sacrifice club !

Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: sneakypete on May 03, 2021, 07:11:44 am
That's a funny headline for this subject, since all George Bush was interested in was kissing the ass of the cocktail set. :cool:

@conservativevoter

Not true. Arab princes don't drink alcohol. Not even after swapping spit with Boy Jorge.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Sled Dog on May 03, 2021, 09:40:36 am
Nope.  Don't see it that way.   He was handed an awful policy from the previous two administrations.  Then 9/11 happened.  Bush pulled off the impossible.  It took him 6 years, but he pulled it off.  Then Obama completely trashed it all.

Looking at where we were in 2008, I will take that any day over what we've had since in regards to Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan.  Not to mention a free air base in one of the most strategic spots on the globe.  Total cost for both Iraq and Afghanistan, around $900 billion.  Obama spent over $600 billion for Afghanistan alone.

The Iraq war never would have happened if we hadn't dropped the ball from 1992 onward.  A cease fire agreement was in place.  We didn't hold them to it.  We blew it.

What did Weasel pull off? 

He failed to pull off his immigration scam.  That was good.

He failed to punish Trashcanistan for it's attacks on the US.   He failed to punish Iraq for their attacks on US troops.   He failed to do anything about the China Threat.   He failed to stop the export of jobs...because that was the opposite of what he wanted to do.

Weasel Bush was pretty much a failure liberal traitor, just like his dad.   

He did perform his task of promoting islam as a religion of peace, something to make his grandfather Goebbels proud.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Sled Dog on May 03, 2021, 09:41:45 am
Like I said, he needs to STFU.  He shouldn't be giving interviews on policy at all.  The same press that lied incessantly about him for a decade is now acting like they're friends.


BUSH is acting like the media that lied about him for 16 years are now his friends.

Because they are his friends.   

They share a goal in common.

Treason.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Sled Dog on May 03, 2021, 09:45:55 am
Ah, the same old tired Democrat talking points.  I will ask again the same question I have been asking for nearly the last two decades.  What was the lie, @Right_in_Virginia ?


That time he swore to defend the Constitution.

He did a really crappy job there.

How about the 393 different lies he gave for invading Iraq, when all he had to do was say the truth, once, and repeat as needed, that Hussein (pick one) had to go and Iraq needed to be remodeled, a task that was overdue since Carter.

Then there was his oft repeated lie that islam is a religion of peace.

And his gross efforts to dis-employ millions of middle class Americans by letting even more cheap labor invade the United States.  He certainly didn't campaign on that issue, did he?
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Sled Dog on May 03, 2021, 09:52:09 am
@Absalom

ROFLMAO! I find it hilarious you had to go back to 1812 to come up with your defense of Boy Jorge.

Desperation is never pretty.


Well, there were the raids into the American Southwest by Pancho Villa.

There was the invasion of the state of Texas by Mexico.

And we shouldn't forget the half-dozen shells that landed in Santa Barbara when the Japs attacked or their efforts to steal the Aleutian Islands.   Alaska was  not a state then, but it was US territory.

Clearly letting 3000 people die on one morning doesn't light a candle to those disasters, according to the Bush-bots.

Chances are, thanks to the treasons by the Clinton Gang, Bush probably didn't have a chance of recognizing the impending attack.   The Gorelick Memo ensured that.    But his response to the attack was pitiful, even to the point of helping potential enemy aliens leave the country and holding the hand of the King of Saudi Arabia in apology.



Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Sled Dog on May 03, 2021, 09:57:07 am
@dfwgator

 Truly,he didn't. Ray Charles could tell at a glance he was a borderline retard.

What got him elected was he seemed to be a good-natured borderline retard,and I am GUESSING that without his mama telling him what to do,that is what he would have been.

Add to that the retard he was running against,and he almost seemed smart. THAT boy was record-setting D....U....M.

She was a evil bitch,and she was the one pulling the strings that made his mouth open and close.


What got him NOMINATED was routine RINO political chicanery thru the primaries.   The same RINOs that tried to foist Jeb! onto us put W on the ballot.

What got him elected was SHEAR LUCK.  If Little Ralphie Nader hadn't been running a completely egotistical turd party run, that fool Al Bore would have taken Floriduh! easily.    Gore lost by something less than 500 votes, Ralphie collected some 15,000 votes (or more) which almost entirely would have gone to Albore if there was no left-wing turd party that year.

Notice how there was no left-wing turd party in 2020?
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Sled Dog on May 03, 2021, 10:07:16 am

The term compassionate conservative makes me puke. Just like that kinder gentler shit his pop would say.  The Bushies turned hardline Goldwater / Reagan conservatives into the whimp bleep capitulating GOP(e) pukes that they are today. 

Overall, he and his dad's tenure were a big NEGATIVE, not only for the country, but for the GOP.  Hopefully we have seen the last of them on the national stage.

Yep.  The day he said he was a "compassionate conservative" I knew I wasn't voting for any Bush ever again.   

That was just double-speak for "flaming lib here, but can't say that" from the Bush gang.

2000 was a really pathetic year for presidential candidates.

The Rodents were running the usual slate of clowns today's Never Trumpers would eagerly support, and these were the people on the GOP side:

McStain (gag me with a radioactive test source)
Bush (fresh out of patriotism in that one)
Forbes (too delicate to push his way into the Establishment Mob. Lacked Trump's force of character that makes Trump so great)
Escape Hatch from Utah (he wanted to "counsel" a known rapist and perjurer rather than impeach him)
Gary Bauer (who I've forgotten all about)
Alan Keyes (who would have earned my vote...then he did a crash-and-burn whining about "racism" in the GOP.   Out you go, pal, you're in the wrong place...)
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Sled Dog on May 03, 2021, 10:09:24 am
As much as I love how Bush did things to help the military during his 8 years in office...this "humility" he talks about made him a doormat for the Dems during those same 8 years.  Especially after the 2006 midterms.

You mean like sending them to war in Trashcanistan for 20 years, with no definition of "winning" and no exit strategy?

Sending our sons off to pointless perpetual wars is doing good for our men in the military?

How'd his VA reforms work out?   Oh.  He didn't reform the VA, either.   
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: dfwgator on May 03, 2021, 11:33:29 am

That time he swore to defend the Constitution.

He did a really crappy job there.

How about the 393 different lies he gave for invading Iraq, when all he had to do was say the truth, once, and repeat as needed, that Hussein (pick one) had to go and Iraq needed to be remodeled, a task that was overdue since Carter.

Then there was his oft repeated lie that islam is a religion of peace.

And his gross efforts to dis-employ millions of middle class Americans by letting even more cheap labor invade the United States.  He certainly didn't campaign on that issue, did he?

9/11 happened on his watch.  He had nine months to fix things so that a couple of Saudi pilots didn't hijack 4 planes and ram them into buildings.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: Hoodat on May 03, 2021, 01:16:09 pm

What got him NOMINATED was routine RINO political chicanery thru the primaries.

The RINO faction was backing McCain in 2000.
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: dfwgator on May 03, 2021, 01:29:50 pm
The RINO faction was backing McCain in 2000.

Some choice we had, eh?
Title: Re: George W. Bush: Trump Lacked the ‘Humility’ Necessary to be an Effective Leader
Post by: sneakypete on May 03, 2021, 03:41:36 pm

BUSH is acting like the media that lied about him for 16 years are now his friends.

Because they are his friends.   

They share a goal in common.

Treason.

@Sled Dog

And there it is,bought and paid for.