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General Category => National/Breaking News => Topic started by: TomSea on November 19, 2019, 01:33:36 am
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Salvation Army Fires Back After Chick-fil-A Ends Partnership with the American Charity
By Tré Goins-Phillips
Editor
Not long after the Salvation Army bell ringers began their volunteer work this morning, Chick-fil-A announced it would no longer be partnering with the beloved and iconic American charity.
The decision from the Atlanta-based restaurant chain, whose core mission is “to glorify God,†came the same day the Salvation Army kicked off its 129th Red Kettle Campaign, an annual initiative synonymous with the holiday season in the U.S.
In fiscal year 2018, Chick-fil-A donated $115,000 to the Salvation Army. But that will be no more, according to a statement (https://thechickenwire.chick-fil-a.com/News/Chick-fil-A-Foundation-Announces-2020-Priorities) released Monday by the quick-service restaurant. The brand plans to “deepen its giving to a smaller number of organizations,†and that no longer includes the 154-year-old Salvation Army.
More at: https://www.faithwire.com/2019/11/18/salvation-army-fires-back-after-chick-fil-a-ends-partnership-with-the-american-charity/ (https://www.faithwire.com/2019/11/18/salvation-army-fires-back-after-chick-fil-a-ends-partnership-with-the-american-charity/)
I don't know if this is just over deciding to give to smaller organizations or what, but there are a few articles out on this today.
https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/2019/november/pelosi-invites-president-to-testify-in-impeachment-inquiry-trump-says-he-might-just-do-that (https://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/2019/november/pelosi-invites-president-to-testify-in-impeachment-inquiry-trump-says-he-might-just-do-that)
I don't know if it is true that they are just giving in to "liberals".... that's what these two articles make it sound like.
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I read over the CfA statement which is linked in the OP article, https://thechickenwire.chick-fil-a.com/News/Chick-fil-A-Foundation-Announces-2020-Priorities (https://thechickenwire.chick-fil-a.com/News/Chick-fil-A-Foundation-Announces-2020-Priorities) . It makes no reference at all to The Salvation Army.
More on this:
Chick-fil-A denies capitulating to LGBT activists; Christian groups won't be excluded from donations (https://www.christianpost.com/news/chick-fil-a-denies-capitulating-to-lgbt-activists-christian-groups-wont-be-excluded-from-donations.html)
Amid reports that fast food chain Chick-fil-A was halting donations to Christian groups, the restaurant's foundation is maintaining they are philanthropically restructuring, not caving to political correctness in pursuit of higher profits.
Reports emerged Monday that after months of consistently negative press coverage related to their long-held views about marriage and human sexuality and donations to like-minded organizations, that the famous chicken sandwich shop was discontinuing their financial contributions to groups characterized as "anti-LGBT."
The Christian Post reached out to Chick-fil-A Monday, asking them to respond to the criticisms that they were compromising their principles in order to appease their ideological opponents.
“Beginning in 2020 the Chick-fil-A Foundation will introduce a more focused giving approach, donating to a smaller number of organizations working exclusively in the areas of hunger, homelessness and education. ...
"Our goal is to donate to the most effective organizations in the areas of education, homelessness and hunger. No organization will be excluded from future consideration – faith-based or non-faith based," the spokesperson said, noting "I also wanted to add that Chick-fil-A will not be opening on Sundays."
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The 2018 tax form filed Friday with the IRS notes that the foundation gave the Salvation Army $115,000 last year and $1.65 million to Fellowship of Christian Athletes last year. The donations were part of the multi-year obligations that have now concluded.
It appears that someone in some branch of news media read more into CfA's statement than is there. Further, since The Salvation Army does work in "the areas of hunger, homelessness and education" it seems very possible that CfA will continue to contribute to The Salvation Army.
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https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2019/november/chick-fil-stops-christian-donations-fca-salvation-army.html (https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2019/november/chick-fil-stops-christian-donations-fca-salvation-army.html)
The Salvation Army brings in $4.3 billion in revenue annually and says it does not discriminate against the LGBT community in its programs, services, and hiring. Officers in the Salvation Army, who are ordained as ministers, are asked to comply with its theological teachings on sexuality.
“We serve more than 23 million individuals a year, including those in the LGBTQ+ community,†the Salvation Army stated. “In fact, we believe we are the largest provider of poverty relief to the LGBTQ+ population. When misinformation is perpetuated without fact, our ability to serve those in need, regardless of sexual orientation, gender identity, religion or any other factor, is at risk. We urge the public to seek the truth before rushing to ill-informed judgment and greatly appreciate those partners and donors who ensure that anyone who needs our help feels safe and comfortable to come through our doors.â€
Beginning in 2020, Chick-fil-A’s charitable arm, the Chick-fil-A Foundation, will instead focus $9 million in philanthropic gifts on three initiatives: promoting education, combating youth homelessness, and reducing hunger, Chick-fil-A announced.
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The Alphabet people are a militant bunch and they hurt more people than they help in their hate of christianity.
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While I like the SA, there is something to be said about distributing finite funds to others.
I refused to give to the United Way as it served some groups I could not agree with such as Planned Parenthood.
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While I like the SA, there is something to be said about distributing finite funds to others.
I refused to give to the United Way as it served some groups I could not agree with such as Planned Parenthood.
I refuse to give/donate to the Red Cross, Goodwill, and the Unted Way.
There are many other local charities that target the people who need help where you live. The SA kettle drive is worthy to fund.
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I refuse to give/donate to the Red Cross, Goodwill, and the Unted Way.
There are many other local charities that target the people who need help where you live. The SA kettle drive is worthy to fund.
:yowsa: Me to!
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SA is down to earth helpful, in the Alcohol/Addiction business. Since long before the taxpayer funded Obamacare high end present situation.
Old school SA: Get up, make yoour bed, pray, breakfast, work, lunch, work, dinner, 12 step meetings, pray, shower, go to bed, Get up up......
Present day Obamacare:
Get up, breakfast, drug test, trip to beach lunch, trip to beach, 12 step meetings, ....
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Something is definitely wrong in this world if the Salvation Army is classified as a hate group.
I've told this story before: My Dad didn't ordinarily trust any charity,-- he said they were all crooks -- but when he served during WWII, both the Salvation Army and the Red Cross would come around with cigarettes, toiletries, socks and such. The difference between the two charities was that the Red Cross charged the soldiers for their supplies, while the SA gave them away for free. I also happen to know that along with these goods, the SA gave counsel, comfort and support to young GIs like Dad far from home.
Dad always gave SA high praise for their work. So I continue to give to the Salvation Army whenever I can in Dad's memory. I'd like to see someone give me evidence that the Salvation Army qualifies as a hate group.
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I refuse to give/donate to the Red Cross, Goodwill, and the Unted Way.
There are many other local charities that target the people who need help where you live. The SA kettle drive is worthy to fund.
Agree with the first, and still give to the SA. Local charities are also a target, here, and a couple of veterans organizations and the USO.
Charity begins at home (by that I mean the community you live in).
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I expect that while the company will no longer officially give to the SA and other so-called "hate" groups, it will still give to these charities in some way. Maybe the donations will come from the Cathy family individually or through some charitable trust? Anyway, I think the Cathys are smart enough to work around these LGBTQRSTUV whiners.
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https://give.salvationarmyusa.org/give/164006/#!/donation/checkout
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And I've made many a trip to their donation "Drop Off".
And I've donated a truck as well. I also have a boat I may see if they'll take as well.
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I refuse to give/donate to the Red Cross, Goodwill, and the Unted Way.
There are many other local charities that target the people who need help where you live. The SA kettle drive is worthy to fund.
QFT. I will not give a dime to any of those organizations
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Something is definitely wrong in this world if the Salvation Army is classified as a hate group.
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SPLC
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Something is definitely wrong in this world if the Salvation Army is classified as a hate group.
I've told this story before: My Dad didn't ordinarily trust any charity,-- he said they were all crooks -- but when he served during WWII, both the Salvation Army and the Red Cross would come around with cigarettes, toiletries, socks and such. The difference between the two charities was that the Red Cross charged the soldiers for their supplies, while the SA gave them away for free. I also happen to know that along with these goods, the SA gave counsel, comfort and support to young GIs like Dad far from home.
Dad always gave SA high praise for their work. So I continue to give to the Salvation Army whenever I can in Dad's memory. I'd like to see someone give me evidence that the Salvation Army qualifies as a hate group.
My father in Law in WWII and Father in Korea, said the exact same thing. I can't walk by an SA kettle with out giving.
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Something is definitely wrong in this world if the Salvation Army is classified as a hate group.
I've told this story before: My Dad didn't ordinarily trust any charity,-- he said they were all crooks -- but when he served during WWII, both the Salvation Army and the Red Cross would come around with cigarettes, toiletries, socks and such. The difference between the two charities was that the Red Cross charged the soldiers for their supplies, while the SA gave them away for free. I also happen to know that along with these goods, the SA gave counsel, comfort and support to young GIs like Dad far from home.
Dad always gave SA high praise for their work. So I continue to give to the Salvation Army whenever I can in Dad's memory. I'd like to see someone give me evidence that the Salvation Army qualifies as a hate group.
Fast-forwarding to the late 70s or early 80s, a coworker who helped fight forest fires in CA told a similar story, ca. 1982. The Salvation Army gave out stuff for free while the Red Cross charged. This coworker was a vociferous atheist and socialist who could not say "Reagan" without appending an expletive.
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I was in a Chick-fil-A last Saturday in New Jersey, and at each cashier's station was a small SA kettle for donations. I'd like to see more restaurants partner with SA and permit patrons to donate their change.
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It's getting to the point where Companies will no longer donate to anyone, out of fear of offending somebody.
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My preferred charity is Samaritan's Purse.
While the Salvation Army does much good work in some places, around here their only task seems to be begging for high-priced toys and electronic gadgets to give away to children who, from my observation, already get plenty of junk for Christmas. They seem to have abandoned the goal of reaching the world for Christ. My husband was on the board of the local SA but quit in protest because they were more focused on giving bicycles away than on sharing the gospel. Again, the SA may take a completely different approach in other regions, and I do not mean to make any broad generalizations.
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News November 19, 2019
Chick-fil-A says it has not caved to LGBTQ activists
It's all coming undone
Chick-fil-A says it is not caving to political correctness and LGBTQ activism in its decision to restructure its philanthropic contributions. ...
According to The Christian Post, the company insisted that there were not compromising its founding Christian beliefs.
“Beginning in 2020 the Chick-fil-A Foundation will introduce a more focused giving approach, donating to a smaller number of organizations working exclusively in the areas of hunger, homelessness and education," a spokesperson told the outlet. "We have also proactively disclosed our 2018 tax filing and a preview of 2019 gifts to date on chick-fil-afoundation.org. The intent of charitable giving from the Chick-fil-A Foundation is to nourish the potential in every child." ... The Blaze (https://www.theblaze.com/news/chick-fil-a-says-it-has-not-caved-to-lgbtq-activists-glaad-says-it-wants-the-company-to-go-even-further)
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My preferred charity is Samaritan's Purse.
While the Salvation Army does much good work in some places, around here their only task seems to be begging for high-priced toys and electronic gadgets to give away to children who, from my observation, already get plenty of junk for Christmas. They seem to have abandoned the goal of reaching the world for Christ. My husband was on the board of the local SA but quit in protest because they were more focused on giving bicycles away than on sharing the gospel. Again, the SA may take a completely different approach in other regions, and I do not mean to make any broad generalizations.
Definitely not the case here. The Gospel is on full display all through out the SA ministries here.
It's also important to note that the vast majority of money you give to the SA goes directly to the need. I believe it is the highest percentage of any charitable organization out there.
Samaritan's Purse is wonderful, btw.
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Something is definitely wrong in this world if the Salvation Army is classified as a hate group.
I've told this story before: My Dad didn't ordinarily trust any charity,-- he said they were all crooks -- but when he served during WWII, both the Salvation Army and the Red Cross would come around with cigarettes, toiletries, socks and such. The difference between the two charities was that the Red Cross charged the soldiers for their supplies, while the SA gave them away for free. I also happen to know that along with these goods, the SA gave counsel, comfort and support to young GIs like Dad far from home.
Dad always gave SA high praise for their work. So I continue to give to the Salvation Army whenever I can in Dad's memory. I'd like to see someone give me evidence that the Salvation Army qualifies as a hate group.
I heard similar accounts from veterans of WWII, Korea, and VIetnam.
When I was out in the rain with six others pushing the bulge out of the poly sheet and reinforcing a dike in East Grand Forks MN in 1979, the Salvation Army came by at 3 AM with hot food and coffee, gratis. Never was so happy to get some hot chow and a cup of coffee.
The Red Cross people cruised around by daylight, and before they left, one of their drivers T-boned my Dodge (driver's side) with one of their 'disaster relief vans failing to yield the Right Of Way and speeding. They didn't even want to replace my car. If I hadn't already decided to go to work at the end of that semester, the concussion I got, and the effect on my Finals, would have stopped me from going further in Grad School anyway.
The Red Cross hasn't gotten a dime from me since, but the Salvation Army has.
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My preferred charity is Samaritan's Purse.
While the Salvation Army does much good work in some places, around here their only task seems to be begging for high-priced toys and electronic gadgets to give away to children who, from my observation, already get plenty of junk for Christmas. They seem to have abandoned the goal of reaching the world for Christ. My husband was on the board of the local SA but quit in protest because they were more focused on giving bicycles away than on sharing the gospel. Again, the SA may take a completely different approach in other regions, and I do not mean to make any broad generalizations.
I suppose each chapter is operated differently, depending on who is in charge. Where I live, the SA is very proactive in many ways. For example, the SA has one ongoing program called Project Bundle Up, which provides winter outerwear and accessories for poor children and seniors. There are programs for drug and alcohol addiction. It feeds the hungry, particularly around major holidays. And the organization does show up in times of war and disaster.
The one thing that irks me is that when a disaster strikes, all I hear about is "give to the Red Cross." Almost never hear about SA. I don't know. Does the Red Cross bribe the media to promote it over other charities? I won't give to the Red Cross because I believe too many donations go to the higher-ups in the organization ('overhead") and not to the stated cause.
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I never knew this about the Salvation Army. I always give about $5 to them plus my loose change to all the Bell ringing Santa Clauses.
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Something is definitely wrong in this world if the Salvation Army is classified as a hate group.
I've told this story before: My Dad didn't ordinarily trust any charity,-- he said they were all crooks -- but when he served during WWII, both the Salvation Army and the Red Cross would come around with cigarettes, toiletries, socks and such. The difference between the two charities was that the Red Cross charged the soldiers for their supplies, while the SA gave them away for free. I also happen to know that along with these goods, the SA gave counsel, comfort and support to young GIs like Dad far from home.
Dad always gave SA high praise for their work. So I continue to give to the Salvation Army whenever I can in Dad's memory. I'd like to see someone give me evidence that the Salvation Army qualifies as a hate group.
I was co chairman and the following year chairman of the United Way program for a company of some
4,000 employees. I worked hard both years and we met the goals established for our company. My year
as leader experienced a office workers strike. Still we met the number.
My dad mentioned his experience when he was in the military and says much the same thing as charging
servicemen for coffee and smokes. I heard the same when I went around speaking to all the departments
in my company. Dad was a medic in W Virginia, helping the worst cases of injury in their recovery. Men
who were hanging on to the barest thread of life.
It was a poor decision to ask servicemen for their meager earnings. Piss poor and since I have refrained
from such giving. I survived the consequences. You should too.
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I never knew this about the Salvation Army. I always give about $5 to them plus my loose change to all the Bell ringing Santa Clauses.
They are very prolific in our area and my wife and I write them a check every year. I told her that in addition to that I set a goal of putting $1 in every kettle I pass this year.
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I suppose each chapter is operated differently, depending on who is in charge. Where I live, the SA is very proactive in many ways.
Indeed. The SA does very many good things all over the country. It's just in my community where they seem to have lost their focus.
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Franklin Graham just posted to Facebook:
Franklin Graham
19 mins ·
Has Chick-fil-A caved? Some are saying they’ve rolled over, that they’ve conceded to the LGBTQ protests because they released a statement about their charitable giving. They announced that in 2020 they’re giving to fight hunger and homelessness and support education. What’s wrong with that?
I picked up the phone and called Dan Cathy. Dan was very clear that they have not bowed down to anyone’s demands, including the LGBTQ community. They will continue to support whoever they want to support. They haven’t changed who they are or what they believe. Chick-fil-A remains committed to Christian values. Dan Cathy assured me that this isn’t going to change. I hope all those who jumped to the wrong conclusion about them read this.
In my opinion, the gay movement wouldn’t ever be happy with Chick-fil-A unless they were open on Sunday, gave all of their charitable donations to LGBTQ organizations, and flew the rainbow flag over their stores! Their hatred for Chick-fil-A is rooted in founder Truett Cathy’s strong stand for biblical “traditional†values and his desire to honor God.
No fast food chain does a better job. I went through the drive-thru at Chick-fil-A yesterday morning, and I thought I might get dinner there—but a whole lot of other people had the same idea! A Chick-fil-A sandwich with waffle fries sounds really good right now!
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@mountaineer
Haven't been a fan of Rev. Graham lately, but in this case, he's right. Too bad he didn't get his chicken sandwich and waffle fries.
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Here in Philly, the bluest of blue cities, the Liberty Square food court is a cluster of fast food eateries that get little traffic and turn over frequently. Except for Chick-fil-A. If I don't get there at 11:30, the line stretches 30 deep for lunch. Everyone, it seems, loves their chicken sandwich and waffle fries.
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Here in Philly, the bluest of blue cities, the Liberty Square food court is a cluster of fast food eateries that get little traffic and turn over frequently. Except for Chick-fil-A. If I don't get there at 11:30, the line stretches 30 deep for lunch. Everyone, it seems, loves their chicken sandwich and waffle fries.
@Jazzhead I didn’t know there was a Chick-fil-A in Philly. I like going in to see the museums there and it’s good to know where to eat.
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Here in Philly, the bluest of blue cities, the Liberty Square food court is a cluster of fast food eateries that get little traffic and turn over frequently. Except for Chick-fil-A. If I don't get there at 11:30, the line stretches 30 deep for lunch. Everyone, it seems, loves their chicken sandwich and waffle fries.
In our local mall, ropes were installed at the Chick-fil-A concession much like a bank to keep the line in order around lunch time. Used to be there were so many people, you couldn't just walk through. The other fast food concessions in the food court don't have that problem.
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@Jazzhead I didn’t know there was a Chick-fil-A in Philly. I like going in to see the museums there and it’s good to know where to eat.
There's also a Chick-fil-A at the airport (near Terminal B, I believe). I don't know of any Chick-fil-As in the Pennsy suburbs near Philly, but there are several in New Jersey, including one across from the Cherry Hill mall. I ate there last Saturday - and there were at least 15 cars in the drive-through line.
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There's also a Chick-fil-A at the airport (near Terminal B, I believe). I don't know of any Chick-fil-As in the Pennsy suburbs near Philly, but there are several in New Jersey, including one across from the Cherry Hill mall. I ate there last Saturday - and there were at least 15 cars in the drive-through line.
The closest one to me was the one in the Quaker Bridge Mall. It’s gone. I’m looking forward to the one they are building in Edison but for now I have to go to Woodbridge for my chicken fix.
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In our local mall, ropes were installed at the Chick-fil-A concession much like a bank to keep the line in order around lunch time. Used to be there were so many people, you couldn't just walk through. The other fast food concessions in the food court don't have that problem.
Yup. That's how they do it at the Liberty Square food court. It's almost comical to see the other restaurants with employees walking around in front of their empty counters offering free samples, while the line at Chick-fil-A is like halftime at a Sixers game.
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Franklin Graham just posted to Facebook:
Glad to hear a clarification from Mr. Graham as I was going to refrain from going to CFA.
As was mentioned earlier, Samaritan's Purse is a great organization as is the Salvation Army. We have a local charity that supports our local homeless that is a fantastic organization...Love and Care Ministries.
http://www.lcmin.com/ (http://www.lcmin.com/)
Tomorrow, a huge portion of our city will show up and donate shoes, clothes, you name to this wonderful organization. Most of our local churches support this effort as well.
I'm thinking about a chicken sandwich for lunch. happy77
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My preferred charity is Samaritan's Purse.
And the head of that organization says:
(https://i.postimg.cc/63vd89RF/Franklin-Graham.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
https://www.facebook.com/FranklinGraham/?hc_location=ufi (https://www.facebook.com/FranklinGraham/?hc_location=ufi)
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Glad to hear a clarification from Mr. Graham as I was going to refrain from going to CFA.
Why would you do that?
Seems you are relying upon hearsay previously to make your decisions.
Did you hear something directly from CFA that caused you to make your mind up other than they were simply making decisions on its charitable giving?
Is it your belief that if someone stops donating to a charity that means one does not like that charity or disagrees with it or could it mean simply that finite resources are allocated differently?
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Why would you do that?
Seems you are relying upon hearsay previously to make your decisions.
Did you hear something directly from CFA that caused you to make your mind up other than they were simply making decisions on its charitable giving?
Is it your belief that if someone stops donating to a charity that means one does not like that charity or disagrees with it or could it mean simply that finite resources are allocated differently?
After deciding that MDA made millions every year from biker sponsored events, we decided that the group we rode with would raise money for local charities and Toys for Tots at the SA. Half went to toys, the rest, in smaller lots, went to local charities where a little would make a big difference. We never regretted that choice. If you wanted to give to MDA, you could, and small grants became big deals locally.
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One of my favorite ways to give started with a buddy of mine. He was a hopeless drunk, and his wife and kids were hurting for basic things... Daddy drank or gambled his paycheck away every time...
So when I visited, I would hide hundred dollar bills where I knew the woman would find them... In the flour, under the knife block on the counter, in her recipe cards... You know the deal.
Never felt better about giving than that right there... REAL money, directly to those who need it, but anonymously so I don't get the credit... It has become a signature move for me.
Many years later, after my buddy had reformed and started to fly right, she recounted those awful hard days at a gathering as we were all sitting around the fire... And how every time she was at her wits end, she would find a crisp hundred dollar bill somewhere, and how that really got them through.
And there I was, receiving the best sort of thanks there is.
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All this talk on chicken sandwiches. I’m going to Popeyes for lunch today.
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All this talk on chicken sandwiches. I’m going to Popeyes for lunch today.
Hope you survive
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thx for post.
Goodwill is a real shocker.
How can this remain a charity?
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@The Ghost
Thank you for that chart. People should know the good guys and the bad guys.
About the United Way: Years ago, one of the local head honchos here was caught embezzling money for his personal use. Apparently, similar incidents have occurred in other cities too. I worked for several employers over the years and they were all heavily involved with United Way. Each would try to pressure me into giving, but I refused. My brother's employer had an unwritten rule: if you don't give, you can forget about a raise or promotion. To me the United Way and the employers who participate are one big extortion racket.
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@The Ghost
Thank you for that chart. People should know the good guys and the bad guys.
About the United Way: Years ago, one of the local head honchos here was caught embezzling money for his personal use. Apparently, similar incidents have occurred in other cities too. I worked for several employers over the years and they were all heavily involved with United Way. Each would try to pressure me into giving, but I refused. My brother's employer had an unwritten rule: if you don't give, you can forget about a raise or promotion. To me the United Way and the employers who participate are one big extortion racket.
I agree totally. Same happened at the company I worked for which eventually went under as this became more important to them than making money.
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@The Ghost
Thank you for that chart. People should know the good guys and the bad guys.
About the United Way: Years ago, one of the local head honchos here was caught embezzling money for his personal use. Apparently, similar incidents have occurred in other cities too. I worked for several employers over the years and they were all heavily involved with United Way. Each would try to pressure me into giving, but I refused. My brother's employer had an unwritten rule: if you don't give, you can forget about a raise or promotion. To me the United Way and the employers who participate are one big extortion racket.
One company I worked for wanted your pledge card turned into HR so the money would be deducted from your next scheduled pay period. Screw that mess.
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Let's Take a Closer Look at the Pro-LGBT Group Chick-Fil-A Will Now Be Funding: Mat Staver Responds
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Let's Take a Closer Look at the Pro-LGBT Group Chick-Fil-A Will Now Be Funding: Mat Staver Responds
Error 404 (Not Found)!!1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JWkqdDJDak#)
Well, I have never tried a Chic-fil-a sandwich, and may never. There isn't one in my area, and when I have been on the road and seen one I don't eat much, because it means fewer stops.
If it is true, what the interviewee said, the only reason for this shift is to expand into new markets, not because the company desperately needed to cave to keep from going broke.
How sad it is that many who are given much when they follow The Almighty, then turn from Him and His teachings and lose that prosperity.
In the meantime, I'll send the Salvation Army my 'chicken sandwich' budget...I think they'll put it to better use.
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MYTHS ABOUT GOODWILL
FALSE: Mark Curran is the president and “owner†of Goodwill and makes $2.3 million.
TRUE: Goodwill is a network of 162 worldwide autonomous nonprofit charitable organizations, each governed by a local board of directors. Goodwill Industries International is an association office that supports those independent Goodwills. Goodwill Industries International is governed by a volunteer board and as such does not have an “owner.†No one named Mark Curran has ever headed any Goodwill organization anywhere, including Goodwill Industries of North Central Wisconsin. Chris Hess is the Goodwill NCW President and CEO. Our IRS documentation discloses wage information. Click here.
FALSE: Goodwill is a for-profit company.
TRUE: Goodwill Industries of North Central Wisconsin is a registered, reputable 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization. Click here for financial documentation. As a nonprofit, Goodwill is “owned†by the communities it serves and is governed by a board of directors made up of volunteers. Click here to see our board of directors.
FALSE: If you get all of the donations for free, you should give them away to people in need.
TRUE: The sale of donations to Goodwill NCW supports our mission of Elevating People by Eliminating Barriers to Employment through our 22 programs and services. The dollars Goodwill earns support its life-changing mission. Click here to read personal stories of some of the people whose lives have been transformed through Goodwill programs.
Our GoodNeighbor program works with other service agencies to help people in need by providing gift cards to our retail stores and training centers. We gave away nearly $1 million of free merchandise in 2018 to people in need. Nationally, CharityWatch — an independent organization that evaluates philanthropic organizations — gives Goodwill an “A†rating, one of the highest in the country for a nonprofit organization. We also are a platinum-level GuideStar participant, demonstrating our commitment to transparency.
FALSE: You take advantage of people with disabilities by paying them sub-minimum wage.
TRUE: We pay all team members, regardless of ability, at least minimum wage. While the Fair Standards Act provision known as 14(c) allows some employers to pay substandard wages to workers with impairments, Goodwill NCW continues to pay ALL team members at least minimum wage, and most earn more than $9 an hour as a starting retail wage.
https://www.goodwillncw.org/facts-about-goodwill/ (https://www.goodwillncw.org/facts-about-goodwill/)
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Thanks for this information @Sighlass
Another really good charity (especially this time of year) is Toys For Tots.
I like to buy some toys on sale from BJs or Costco in September and donate them next week. Every child should have toys for the Winter holidays.
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I have also become cynical where large charities are involved. Many of them are set up to provide white collar employment for people who couldn't make it in the for-profit sector, and little of the donations actually make it to starving or disabled people. It seems as though we could make a much bigger difference by helping the people we know, either through gifts or volunteering time and labor.
We need to take a close look at the tax code and have an honest debate about why donations to the United Way are entirely deductible, while aid to a sick relative is not.
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MYTHS ABOUT GOODWILL
FALSE: Mark Curran is the president and “owner†of Goodwill and makes $2.3 million.
TRUE: Goodwill is a network of 162 worldwide autonomous nonprofit charitable organizations, each governed by a local board of directors. Goodwill Industries International is an association office that supports those independent Goodwills. Goodwill Industries International is governed by a volunteer board and as such does not have an “owner.†No one named Mark Curran has ever headed any Goodwill organization anywhere, including Goodwill Industries of North Central Wisconsin. Chris Hess is the Goodwill NCW President and CEO. Our IRS documentation discloses wage information. Click here.
FALSE: Goodwill is a for-profit company.
TRUE: Goodwill Industries of North Central Wisconsin is a registered, reputable 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization. Click here for financial documentation. As a nonprofit, Goodwill is “owned†by the communities it serves and is governed by a board of directors made up of volunteers. Click here to see our board of directors.
FALSE: If you get all of the donations for free, you should give them away to people in need.
TRUE: The sale of donations to Goodwill NCW supports our mission of Elevating People by Eliminating Barriers to Employment through our 22 programs and services. The dollars Goodwill earns support its life-changing mission. Click here to read personal stories of some of the people whose lives have been transformed through Goodwill programs.
Our GoodNeighbor program works with other service agencies to help people in need by providing gift cards to our retail stores and training centers. We gave away nearly $1 million of free merchandise in 2018 to people in need. Nationally, CharityWatch — an independent organization that evaluates philanthropic organizations — gives Goodwill an “A†rating, one of the highest in the country for a nonprofit organization. We also are a platinum-level GuideStar participant, demonstrating our commitment to transparency.
FALSE: You take advantage of people with disabilities by paying them sub-minimum wage.
TRUE: We pay all team members, regardless of ability, at least minimum wage. While the Fair Standards Act provision known as 14(c) allows some employers to pay substandard wages to workers with impairments, Goodwill NCW continues to pay ALL team members at least minimum wage, and most earn more than $9 an hour as a starting retail wage.
https://www.goodwillncw.org/facts-about-goodwill/ (https://www.goodwillncw.org/facts-about-goodwill/)
This is all very helpful because I am around people sometimes, who spout this about Goodwill. "Oh, don't buy Goodwill", somewhere, they got a bad rep. I will have to study this more. @Sighlass
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One also has to be wary of supposed charities with names that sound similar to reputable charities. I once worked for an attorney who at the time represented the local chapter of Make-a-Wish. He was constantly fighting off fraudulent charities wit the word "Wish" in them, pretending to be Make-a-Wish. Incredible how many con artists have successfully passed themselves off as real, reputable charities.
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Well, I have never tried a Chic-fil-a sandwich, and may never. There isn't one in my area, and when I have been on the road and seen one I don't eat much, because it means fewer stops.
If it is true, what the interviewee said, the only reason for this shift is to expand into new markets, not because the company desperately needed to cave to keep from going broke.
How sad it is that many who are given much when they follow The Almighty, then turn from Him and His teachings and lose that prosperity.
In the meantime, I'll send the Salvation Army my 'chicken sandwich' budget...I think they'll put it to better use.
@Smokin Joe
I was hoping this gentleman's info was incorrect because I love CfA and was ecstatic when one recently opened less than 5 minutes from my house. So, I did a little digging and learned that he's right -- right about the fact that CfA is supporting Covenant House and that Covenant House is an organization that celebrates the LGBTQWERTY platform. Some links:
https://christiannews.net/2019/11/21/chick-fil-a-touting-work-of-lgbtq-inclusive-and-affirming-covenant-house-on-its-website-a-partnership-that-will-expand-in-2020/ (https://christiannews.net/2019/11/21/chick-fil-a-touting-work-of-lgbtq-inclusive-and-affirming-covenant-house-on-its-website-a-partnership-that-will-expand-in-2020/)
https://www.covenanthouse.org/charity-blog/blog/celebrating-pride (https://www.covenanthouse.org/charity-blog/blog/celebrating-pride)
https://www.covenanthouse.org/homeless-issues/lgbtq-homeless-youth (https://www.covenanthouse.org/homeless-issues/lgbtq-homeless-youth)
#covunity
Like you, I'll deposit any funds I would otherwise have spent at CfA into the red kettle this year. I truly hope that so many people do this that it more than offsets the losses they suffer by losing CfA's support. I also hope -- call me mean -- that CfA's bottom line suffers for turning away from their previously held Godly principles.
I haven't yet looked into Fellowship for Christian Athletes.
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@Smokin Joe
I was hoping this gentleman's info was incorrect because I love CfA and was ecstatic when one recently opened less than 5 minutes from my house. So, I did a little digging and learned that he's right -- right about the fact that CfA is supporting Covenant House and that Covenant House is an organization that celebrates the LGBTQWERTY platform. Some links:
https://christiannews.net/2019/11/21/chick-fil-a-touting-work-of-lgbtq-inclusive-and-affirming-covenant-house-on-its-website-a-partnership-that-will-expand-in-2020/ (https://christiannews.net/2019/11/21/chick-fil-a-touting-work-of-lgbtq-inclusive-and-affirming-covenant-house-on-its-website-a-partnership-that-will-expand-in-2020/)
https://www.covenanthouse.org/charity-blog/blog/celebrating-pride (https://www.covenanthouse.org/charity-blog/blog/celebrating-pride)
https://www.covenanthouse.org/homeless-issues/lgbtq-homeless-youth (https://www.covenanthouse.org/homeless-issues/lgbtq-homeless-youth)
#covunity
Like you, I'll deposit any funds I would otherwise have spent at CfA into the red kettle this year. I truly hope that so many people do this that it more than offsets the losses they suffer by losing CfA's support. I also hope -- call me mean -- that CfA's bottom line suffers for turning away from their previously held Godly principles.
I haven't yet looked into Fellowship for Christian Athletes.
I have seen the mailers Covenant House sent out years ago, which seemed like a great idea to get kids off the streets. No mention was made in the mailers of the LGBTQ agenda in those, and they were presented like a faith based organization. This has been an eye opener in that regard as well, although we stopped donating any money to them a decade ago, in favor of other charities. There are plenty who will support the alphabet agenda without my funds ever darkening their mailbox again.
As for Chic-fil-a, well, I'll just keep doing what I have been (Like I said, I never tried it).
I have seen the great benefit the Salvation Army has brought in our community, so my money will keep going there.
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@Smokin Joe
I was hoping this gentleman's info was incorrect because I love CfA and was ecstatic when one recently opened less than 5 minutes from my house. So, I did a little digging and learned that he's right -- right about the fact that CfA is supporting Covenant House and that Covenant House is an organization that celebrates the LGBTQWERTY platform. Some links:
https://christiannews.net/2019/11/21/chick-fil-a-touting-work-of-lgbtq-inclusive-and-affirming-covenant-house-on-its-website-a-partnership-that-will-expand-in-2020/ (https://christiannews.net/2019/11/21/chick-fil-a-touting-work-of-lgbtq-inclusive-and-affirming-covenant-house-on-its-website-a-partnership-that-will-expand-in-2020/)
https://www.covenanthouse.org/charity-blog/blog/celebrating-pride (https://www.covenanthouse.org/charity-blog/blog/celebrating-pride)
https://www.covenanthouse.org/homeless-issues/lgbtq-homeless-youth (https://www.covenanthouse.org/homeless-issues/lgbtq-homeless-youth)
#covunity
Like you, I'll deposit any funds I would otherwise have spent at CfA into the red kettle this year. I truly hope that so many people do this that it more than offsets the losses they suffer by losing CfA's support. I also hope -- call me mean -- that CfA's bottom line suffers for turning away from their previously held Godly principles.
I haven't yet looked into Fellowship for Christian Athletes.
To say the least I am disappointed. They make a darn good sandwich and their employees are the most pleasant ones I have ever seen. It is a shame they are throwing their faith under the bus like this.
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I'll stop giving my business to Chick-fil-A when they stop making a good chicken sandwich.
Even with the changes. Chick-fil-A still strikes me as a good corporate citizen.
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Too, it can be a mixed bag.
Target is rightfully heavily criticized over the transgender bathroom issue. At the same time, they especially notably hire what you'd call physically challenged individuals. People in wheelchairs and whatever instruments to move around those are called now. I'm talking about real handicaps. At least the one near me does.
So, there start to be tradeoffs.
I don't know if Chick Fil A gave only to Salvation Army. I think if we are talking about $115,000 or whatever the number is, they could have still given to Salvation, just a smaller amount, $15,000 or something.
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I'll stop giving my business to Chick-fil-A when they stop making a good chicken sandwich.
Even with the changes. Chick-fil-A still strikes me as a good corporate citizen.
That's probably right. What, am I supposed to forgo Chick-fil-A and go to McDonald's or Burger King or who instead? I probably will not be quite as faithful to Chick-fil-A because their political stand has been sullied, but they still make it pretty dang good sandwich.
It ain't like there's a better fast food restaurant with a Christian vibe
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I'll make sure I give some to Badwill.
000hehehehe
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I refuse to give/donate to the Red Cross, Goodwill, and the Unted Way.
There are many other local charities that target the people who need help where you live. The SA kettle drive is worthy to fund.
We can't investigate every charity but I agree about United Way and Red Cross. Salvation Army is one of the few that doesn't skim off the top. I have limited funds so I donate to the Salvation Army and DFW Labrador Rescue, plus the Hawaiian Human Society.
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I'll stop giving my business to Chick-fil-A when they stop making a good chicken sandwich.
Even with the changes. Chick-fil-A still strikes me as a good corporate citizen.
Good job of not over-reacting Jazzhead
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Good job of not over-reacting Jazzhead
Well look at what the cat dragged in... Hiya @Emjay :seeya: