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Title: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: mystery-ak on August 21, 2016, 12:59:26 pm
August 21, 2016, 07:00 am
Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities

By Nikita Vladimirov

Eric Trump, the son of the Republican presidential nominee, is echoing his father's recent outreach to minority voters around the country. 

“You have a lot of people from inner cities, especially minorities, who aren’t getting higher-level education. The schools around them are totally failing them. There’s 60 percent unemployment in some of these communities," Trump said in a radio interview with John Catsimatidis for "The Cats Roundtable" on Sunday. 
"We’re not giving the youth the opportunities that they so rightfully deserve. My father’s going to focus on that, and he's going to change that, and he’s going to fix it because it’s just not right," he added.
 
Donald Trump is currently struggling with minority votes, polling almost 0 percent support among African Americans is some key battleground states.
 
The GOP nominee is also losing the Hispanic vote to Hillary Clinton by 66 percent to 24 percent nationally, according to Pew survey conducted in mid-June.
 
Eric Trump also took the opportunity to blast President Obama and Clinton for not visiting Louisiana in the wake of the recent flooding in the state.

“Our president was spending time in Martha’s Vineyard playing golf while people’s houses were under water, and people's cars were underwater, and caskets were floating down the streets of Louisiana. People were dying and there was death and destruction and everything else," said Trump.
 
"Our president was nowhere to be found. And Hillary Clinton, nowhere to be found,” he added.
 
The flooding damaged nearly 40,000 homes and resulted in 13 deaths, according to the latest estimates.
 
The White House on Friday said that Obama would visit the Louisiana on Tuesday and provide assistance to the victims of the natural disaster.
 
Clinton said last week that she had spoken with Louisiana's governor and opted not to visit because it would be a "distraction" from relief efforts. Donald Trump and running mate Mike Pence surveyed the damage on Friday.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/292119-eric-trump-father-will-focus-on-fixing-inner-cities
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Henry Noel on August 21, 2016, 01:02:04 pm
The biggest improvement will come with the tariffs, because when that happens there will be lots of manufacturing requiring unskilled labor (at fifteen bucks per hour, which will make more money available for the poor to purchase the things they're producing).
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: geronl on August 21, 2016, 01:26:54 pm
The biggest improvement will come with the tariffs, because when that happens there will be lots of manufacturing requiring unskilled labor (at fifteen bucks per hour, which will make more money available for the poor to purchase the things they're producing).

don't forget that flying unicorns will provide them with a steady diet of free Skittles too.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: sinkspur on August 21, 2016, 01:37:38 pm
Who on earth is buying this bullshit?  Trump cares less about "inner cities" than Obama does, and that's not at all.  Trump has a history with blacks (settled a lawsuit over racial discrimination at his New York condos)
 that is mostly no history.

And he's pimping schools in inner cities, which is another expansion of federal authority into what should be a local matter.   Trump loves big government and his "new side" is going to make sure he won't be outspent by Hillary.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: TomSea on August 21, 2016, 01:38:30 pm
Clearly Trump will help the matter, these cities suffer under Democratic leadership.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Cripplecreek on August 21, 2016, 01:41:42 pm
don't forget that flying unicorns will provide them with a steady diet of free Skittles too.

The Amnestied illegals will be riding the unicorns.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: mystery-ak on August 21, 2016, 01:45:26 pm
Clearly Trump will help the matter, these cities suffer under Democratic leadership.

Nothing will change until the Dems are out of control in the inner cities....and only through elections can that happen.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: sinkspur on August 21, 2016, 01:47:58 pm
Clearly Trump will help the matter, these cities suffer under Democratic leadership.

What is Trump going to do if it's so "clear" to you?
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Cripplecreek on August 21, 2016, 01:48:13 pm
Nothing will change until the Dems are out of control in the inner cities....and only through elections can that happen.

Bingo. True change starts at the local level.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: geronl on August 21, 2016, 01:50:59 pm
And he's pimping schools in inner cities, which is another expansion of federal authority into what should be a local matter.   Trump loves big government and his "new side" is going to make sure he won't be outspent by Hillary.

Trump thinks education is one of the top 3 duties of the federal government.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: sinkspur on August 21, 2016, 01:52:59 pm
Trump thinks education is one of the top 3 duties of the federal government.

Yep.  Security, education and healthcare are, according to Trump, the top three priorities of the US government.  Hillary wouldn't disagree with him.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: libertybele on August 21, 2016, 01:56:08 pm
So, how much money should we continue to pump into the inner cities?  If we take Detroit as an example, for decades they tried busing and revitalizing downtown areas including the schools and it didn't work. Detroit has been rebuilt multiple times only for it to be torn down multiple times.  After billions of dollars Detroit is in shambles.  Pumping money into inner city areas alone doesn't work; if the mindset of the people doesn't change.  IMHO, Thanks to LBJ's 'Great Society' and the leftist influence in these areas that have promoted and developed a 'give me and I deserve' attitude, along with continued dependency instead of promoting in-dependency; pumping money into these areas is futile.  Putting a time frame as to how long one can receive government assistance and job creation and making people independent instead of dependent has a much better chance of working. 

Also we have to take into consideration that impact of mass migration into our inner cities...including refugees.  Right now, there is talk about the GOP placing an influx of Syrian refugees into Detroit in order to help the economy!  Did no one learn from Germany??

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/detroit-saved-by-syrian-immigrants-rick-snyder-immigration-gop-213206
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eli-day/detroit-revitalization-an_b_8529642.html
http://www.freep.com/story/opinion/contributors/2015/07/24/desegregation-detroit-schools/30645637/
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/08/17/us/detroit-decline.html?_r=0
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/failing-schools-education-white-house-214332
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Longmire on August 21, 2016, 01:58:17 pm
And he's pimping schools in inner cities, which is another expansion of federal authority into what should be a local matter.   

This assertion doesn't hold water. Trump has consistently supported ending common core and returning to local control of schools. Lately he's been talking about school choice which resonates with inner city parents. He's also talked about merit pay, ending tenure, and vouchers.

A suggestion that Trump is 'pimping' an expansion of federal authority with respect to public schools rates somewhere between silly and dishonest.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: geronl on August 21, 2016, 02:02:13 pm
This assertion doesn't hold water. Trump has consistently supported ending common core and returning to local control of schools.

He has not been consistent at all on those things. In fact he once flip-flopped on common core during a 3-minute speech in which he said "we're keeping common core" after calling it horrendous. lol. He stated that education was one of the top 3 responsibilities of the federal government at a nationally televised townhall or debate or something.

He has been consistent on nothing.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: geronl on August 21, 2016, 02:05:41 pm
A suggestion that Trump is 'pimping' an expansion of federal authority with respect to public schools rates somewhere between silly and dishonest.

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/03/29/trump-federal-governments-top-three-functions-are-security-healthcare-and-education/

Schools are healthcare are functions of the federal government, according to Trump.

Trump has called for many expansions on federal power, he doesn't think the Bill of Rights is sacrosanct and thinks increasing the national debt is a good thing.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: mystery-ak on August 21, 2016, 02:07:01 pm
So, how much money should we continue to pump into the inner cities?  If we take Detroit as an example, for decades they tried busing and revitalizing downtown areas including the schools and it didn't work. Detroit has been rebuilt multiple times only for it to be torn down multiple times.  After billions of dollars Detroit is in shambles.  Pumping money into inner city areas alone doesn't work; if the mindset of the people doesn't change.  IMHO, Thanks to LBJ's 'Great Society' and the leftist influence in these areas that have promoted and developed a 'give me and I deserve' attitude, along with continued dependency instead of promoting in-dependency; pumping money into these areas is futile.  Putting a time frame as to how long one can receive government assistance and job creation and making people independent instead of dependent has a much better chance of working. 

Also we have to take into consideration that impact of mass migration into our inner cities...including refugees.  Right now, there is talk about the GOP placing an influx of Syrian refugees into Detroit in order to help the economy!  Did no one learn from Germany??

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/detroit-saved-by-syrian-immigrants-rick-snyder-immigration-gop-213206
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eli-day/detroit-revitalization-an_b_8529642.html
http://www.freep.com/story/opinion/contributors/2015/07/24/desegregation-detroit-schools/30645637/
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/08/17/us/detroit-decline.html?_r=0
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/failing-schools-education-white-house-214332

No one is arguing the conditions of the inner city but how to change them...Trump has to convince people in the inner cities to stop voting in Dems who control the cities and purse strings ...if that can be done changes can happen and maybe without the need for more tax dollars just better management and less corruption...
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Longmire on August 21, 2016, 02:09:01 pm
He has not been consistent at all on those things. In fact he once flip-flopped on common core during a 3-minute speech in which he said "we're keeping common core" after calling it horrendous. lol. He stated that education was one of the top 3 responsibilities of the federal government at a nationally televised townhall or debate or something.

Trump has been consistently against Common Core, it's been a staple of his campaign rhetoric.

You must have been hallucinating when you heard that.



Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Luis Gonzalez on August 21, 2016, 02:30:15 pm
This assertion doesn't hold water. Trump has consistently supported ending common core and returning to local control of schools. Lately he's been talking about school choice which resonates with inner city parents. He's also talked about merit pay, ending tenure, and vouchers.

A suggestion that Trump is 'pimping' an expansion of federal authority with respect to public schools rates somewhere between silly and dishonest.

If you knew anything at all about Common Core, you'd understand that it was exactly about local control of schools.

The one interference from the Feds, was to "encourage" States to adopt the standards via increased Federal funding for those that did adopt it. In fact, the 1965 Elementary and Secondary Education Act forbids the Federal government from intervening in school curriculum development.

Common Core was created by the States, the standards adopted to achieve the Core's standards were created by independent firms working with State educators, the curriculums and texts are chosen by the States' school districts, and participation is completely voluntary. The fact that Indiana, one of the first States to adopt Common Core, has dropped it, along with South Carolina and Oklahoma, clearly illustrates that the "mandate" isn't a mandate at all, and that States are in complete control.

All those examples of horrid math you see on social media, are intances of local school districts simply buying bad curricula from private companies.

American students are being out performed by every other First World nations' students, and by students in a number of Second World nations, a situation created by the status quo educational system and parenting standards that existed prior to the creation of the Common Core standards. If you're looking for a cause to tilt your lance at, I'd say you'd be better off pouting it at the status quo rather than at Common Core.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Luis Gonzalez on August 21, 2016, 02:36:24 pm
This assertion doesn't hold water. Trump has consistently supported ending common core and returning to local control of schools. Lately he's been talking about school choice which resonates with inner city parents. He's also talked about merit pay, ending tenure, and vouchers.

A suggestion that Trump is 'pimping' an expansion of federal authority with respect to public schools rates somewhere between silly and dishonest.

To make a claim that he, as President, would work to end Common Core, IS in violation of the Federal law which forbids Federal interference with State school curricula, IS an expansion of Federal authority, and a violation of the principles of Federalism involved in the creation and voluntary adoption of Common Core by participating States.

It is also proof of Trump's ignorance (or perhaps disdain) for laws and his red meat campaign tactics aimed at those easily duped and/or sadly lacking in understanding of the issues.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Longmire on August 21, 2016, 02:37:25 pm
Schools are healthcare are functions of the federal government, according to Trump.

The Federal government is already heavily involved in the nations schools, Trump is looking to reduce that role significantly.

Eliminating Common Core would be a big step in that direction.

Ending teacher tenure would be another.






Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: geronl on August 21, 2016, 02:38:44 pm
...if that can be done changes can happen and maybe without the need for more tax dollars just better management and less corruption...

Two things that would never happen with Trump
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Luis Gonzalez on August 21, 2016, 02:38:52 pm
Trump has been consistently against Common Core, it's been a staple of his campaign rhetoric.

You must have been hallucinating when you heard that.

Is he running for a State governorship of for POTUS?

Is he's running for POTUS, he has no business being either for or against Common Core.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Bunny Watson on August 21, 2016, 02:41:50 pm
Nothing will change until the Dems are out of control in the inner cities....and only through elections can that happen.

The only problem with that is the conservatives have abandoned the cities. Look at Philadelphia. I think the Democrats have a 7 to 1 advantage in voter registration. If I remember correctly, Obama won something like 85% of the vote in 2012.  There aren't enough conservatives left to change that city. Those of us who are conservatives and work in the city escape to the (slightly) saner suburbs.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: geronl on August 21, 2016, 02:43:25 pm
Trump has been consistently against Common Core, it's been a staple of his campaign rhetoric.

You must have been hallucinating when you heard that.

http://therightscoop.com/trump-flip-flop-on-common-core-is-going-viral-but-its-a-mistake-heres-proof/

Trump "misspoke", or maybe hallucinated. It's on video. Trump is always saying stupid things.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: sinkspur on August 21, 2016, 02:48:10 pm
This assertion doesn't hold water. Trump has consistently supported ending common core and returning to local control of schools. Lately he's been talking about school choice which resonates with inner city parents. He's also talked about merit pay, ending tenure, and vouchers.

A suggestion that Trump is 'pimping' an expansion of federal authority with respect to public schools rates somewhere between silly and dishonest.

The feds have almost nothing to do with Common Core and can't stop local districts from adopting it if they wish. 

And, you contradict yourself.  If Trump wants local control of schools, what business is it of his if they adopt merit pay, ending tenure and vouchers?

Can't have it both ways, pal.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: sinkspur on August 21, 2016, 02:51:20 pm
The Federal government is already heavily involved in the nations schools, Trump is looking to reduce that role significantly.

Eliminating Common Core would be a big step in that direction.

Ending teacher tenure would be another.

Do you even read what you write?  First you say Trump is looking to reduce the fed's role in schools.

In the very next sentence you say he wants to end Common Core and teacher tenure, which would be increasing the fed role in local schools.

Which is it?
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Longmire on August 21, 2016, 02:54:37 pm
To make a claim that he, as President, would work to end Common Core, IS in violation of the Federal law which forbids Federal interference with State school curricula, IS an expansion of Federal authority, and a violation of the principles of Federalism involved in the creation and voluntary adoption of Common Core by participating States.

Well...I don't believe that nonsense for one second.

Ted Cruz on repealing Common Core: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzjCTHB_piU#t=32 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzjCTHB_piU#t=32)
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Luis Gonzalez on August 21, 2016, 02:56:26 pm
The Federal government is already heavily involved in the nations schools, Trump is looking to reduce that role significantly.

Eliminating Common Core would be a big step in that direction.

Ending teacher tenure would be another.

Whatever State it is that you live in can refuse to accept Federal funding of its schools. It is not mandatory to accept it. Demand that your State stop accepting Federal money.

Jeb Bush effectively ended teacher tenure in Florida by signing the nation's first school voucher program and broke the teachers' union control on the State's education system by helping created the State's charter school program.

IOW... Jeb was a champion of State and local control of schools.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Longmire on August 21, 2016, 02:59:41 pm
Do you even read what you write?  First you say Trump is looking to reduce the fed's role in schools.

In the very next sentence you say he wants to end Common Core and teacher tenure, which would be increasing the fed role in local schools.


Ending Common Core is not increasing the role of the Federal government in schools. That's just Bushshit.

Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Luis Gonzalez on August 21, 2016, 03:01:56 pm
Well...I don't believe that nonsense for one second.

Ted Cruz on repealing Common Core: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzjCTHB_piU#t=32 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzjCTHB_piU#t=32)

You can believe that the. earth is flat and that the Sun revolves around it if you want to. It doesn't make the facts I posted less factual.

That Cruz thinks the same as Trump just makes them both wrong together.

How can you argue that having the Federal government force a State to end Program that the State adopted voluntarily be anything BUT a violation of the principles of Federalism and of the applicable Federal laws which forbid the Federal government from interfering with the States decision on school curriculum choices?
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: RoosGirl on August 21, 2016, 03:02:37 pm
Conservative or liberal doesn't and won't matter until minorities decide that being educated isn't "acting white" and a bad thing.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Wingnut on August 21, 2016, 03:03:10 pm
Teach a person to fish and he can feed himself and family for life.  Give a person an EBT card, Section 8 housing, a welfare check, an Obama phone and a six pack of beer, they will vote 100% Democrat the rest of their lives.

Trump can't and won't change that.  Any further discussion on the subject is an exercise in futility.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Oceander on August 21, 2016, 03:04:29 pm
How will he do that?  By pouring billions of dollars of federal money into the inner cities?  Isn't that what liberals have been doing for decades?
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Longmire on August 21, 2016, 03:05:30 pm
Whatever State it is that you live in can refuse to accept Federal funding of its schools.

I'd rather demand the Federal government get out of school funding business, seems easier to go after the pusher than the addict.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Luis Gonzalez on August 21, 2016, 03:05:42 pm
Ending Common Core is not increasing the role of the Federal government in schools. That's just Bushshit.

Bushit is arguing that having the Federal government force a State that voluntarily adopted the standard to drop it is not an increase in the Federal control of State school system, and a violation of both Federal laws and the core conservative value of Federalism.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Luis Gonzalez on August 21, 2016, 03:06:40 pm
I'd rather demand the Federal government get out of school funding business, seems easier to go after the pusher than the addict.

Then demand that your State refuse Federal funding. It is not mandatory to accept it.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: sinkspur on August 21, 2016, 03:12:18 pm
Ending Common Core is not increasing the role of the Federal government in schools. That's just Bushshit.

Common Core is a STATE curriculum.  Involving the feds AT ALL in anything having to do with it is the very definition of federal involvement  in local schools.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: NavyCanDo on August 21, 2016, 03:16:28 pm
Question is, why is Trump trying so hard at this late stage in the election process to capture the black and inner city vote which will vote Democrat no matter how much effort is applied? Perhaps he has already tapped out the conservative vote giving up on the NeverTumps
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Longmire on August 21, 2016, 03:17:22 pm
How can you argue that having the Federal government force a State to end Program that the State adopted voluntarily be anything BUT a violation of the principles of Federalism and of the applicable Federal laws which forbid the Federal government from interfering with the States decision on school curriculum choices?

Nothing you've written is required to get rid of Common Core.

All the Federal government have to do is stop providing incentives to those states who adopt it and Common Core will die a natural death.

Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Longmire on August 21, 2016, 03:22:17 pm
Then demand that your State refuse Federal funding. It is not mandatory to accept it.

I'd rather the Fed Gov. stop providing the incentives because its a more effective way to kill the program.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: sinkspur on August 21, 2016, 03:26:29 pm
Question is, why is Trump trying so hard at this late stage in the election process to capture the black and inner city vote which will vote Democrat no matter how much effort is applied? Perhaps he has already tapped out the conservative vote giving up on the NeverTumps

This is Conway.  She thinks it softens his image to tell blacks they all live in poverty, their schools suck, and they're all out of work.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 21, 2016, 03:37:50 pm
Clearly Trump will help the matter, these cities suffer under Democratic leadership.

Exactly right.  Conservatives have been saying this for years ... albeit to each other.

The only thing that's new here is that Donald Trump is saying it into a microphone...and means it.

Godspeed Mr. Trump.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Luis Gonzalez on August 21, 2016, 03:37:55 pm
Nothing you've written is required to get rid of Common Core.

All the Federal government have to do is stop providing incentives to those states who adopt it and Common Core will die a natural death.

In 2013 US High School students failed to crack the global top 20 in math, reading, and science proficiency. In fact, we ranked 36th in the world.

You want to go back to the status quo which got us to that point and stop any attempt at improving those numbers?

Is that your goal?

Why get rid of Common Core, an attempt by the States at improving student performance?

Why not give the States that voluntarily adopted the standard enough time to see f they can get it to improve their students' performance?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4uRHHUctY0
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Right_in_Virginia on August 21, 2016, 03:40:42 pm
Question is, why is Trump trying so hard at this late stage in the election process to capture the black and inner city vote which will vote Democrat no matter how much effort is applied?

Because he's speaking the truth ... and doing what no Republican POTUS candidate has had the guts to do--asking for their vote--asking for them to turn away from the leadership that has caused so many of the inner city's problems and choose new leadership.

The question for me is: Why are you not cheering him on?  Haven't we wanted a candidate to do just this for years?





Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Oceander on August 21, 2016, 03:46:41 pm
Because he's speaking the truth ... and doing what no Republican POTUS candidate has had the guts to do--asking for their vote--asking for them to turn away from the leadership that has caused so many of the inner city's problems and choose new leadership.

The question for me is: Why are you not cheering him on?  Haven't we wanted a candidate to do just this for years?







A lying blowhard who thinks that presidential elections are like reality TV?  No, that's not the sort of candidate we've ever wanted.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: sinkspur on August 21, 2016, 03:47:08 pm
Because he's speaking the truth ... and doing what no Republican POTUS candidate has had the guts to do--asking for their vote--asking for them to turn away from the leadership that has caused so many of the inner city's problems and choose new leadership.

The question for me is: Why are you not cheering him on?  Haven't we wanted a candidate to do just this for years?

Bush woos black vote for 2000 election

https://www.theguardian.com/world/1999/nov/27/uselections2000.usa

As for Trump:

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Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: XenaLee on August 21, 2016, 03:52:58 pm
He has not been consistent at all on those things. In fact he once flip-flopped on common core during a 3-minute speech in which he said "we're keeping common core" after calling it horrendous. lol. He stated that education was one of the top 3 responsibilities of the federal government at a nationally televised townhall or debate or something.

He has been consistent on nothing.

It's like they (Trump supporters) are not even paying attention to what he says from one minute to the next re: his flip flops and reversions on positions.  Almost like they have memorized everything on the Trump website and now just tune him and what he says completely out.  Ah-mazing cognitive dissonance.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: geronl on August 21, 2016, 04:03:34 pm
Whatever State it is that you live in can refuse to accept Federal funding of its schools. It is not mandatory to accept it. Demand that your State stop accepting Federal money.


Congress and President should end the federal funding of schools, period
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Oceander on August 21, 2016, 04:07:21 pm
Congress and President should end the federal funding of schools, period

What does the president have to do with it?  Congress is the one who appropriates federal funds last I heard.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Luis Gonzalez on August 21, 2016, 04:09:56 pm
Congress and President should end the federal funding of schools, period

Agreed.

But when solutions are available at the State level, why not make that the goal rather than fighting a battle that actually empowers the Federal government, rather than one that takes power away from them by giving the States control?

Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Luis Gonzalez on August 21, 2016, 04:10:40 pm
What does the president have to do with it?  Congress is the one who appropriates federal funds last I heard.

This.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: geronl on August 21, 2016, 04:13:38 pm
What does the president have to do with it?  Congress is the one who appropriates federal funds last I heard.

Ask McConnell who went to bat for ObamaCare and spent more effort fighting Cruz efforts to defund it than he or Boehner ever fought against Obama. WHy? Basically McConnell was saying they could not defund ObamaCare because of Obama.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Luis Gonzalez on August 21, 2016, 04:33:48 pm
Ask McConnell who went to bat for ObamaCare and spent more effort fighting Cruz efforts to defund it than he or Boehner ever fought against Obama. WHy? Basically McConnell was saying they could not defund ObamaCare because of Obama.

McConnell was absolutely right in saying that they could not defund Obamacare because of Obama's veto, BECAUSE they lacked sufficient votes in Congress to override a Presidential veto.

Asking Congress to end Federal funding of schools is a pipe dream. Too many votes in Congress from too many States that do not want to end the funding to make that dream a reality.

Getting your State to stop accepting Federal funding is a far easier fight to win, which i the process diminishes the Feds' power over the States by strengthening the State's power over the Feds .
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: geronl on August 21, 2016, 04:38:20 pm
McConnell was absolutely right in saying that they could not defund Obamacare because of Obama's veto

So they should not try. Right. They should not even attempt to get a compromise out of Obama, I guess.

The way McConnell and Bonehead fought for ObamaCare should never be forgiven.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Longmire on August 21, 2016, 04:48:25 pm
What does the president have to do with it?  Congress is the one who appropriates federal funds last I heard.

For one thing its the Dept. of Education which is providing the incentives to the states who develop and adhere to Common Core.

The Dept. of Education funds Common Core by funneling money from another Obama program called Race to the Top which was started in 2009 with funds from the economic stimulus package.

So yes, the President does have something to do with it, and in the case of Common Core Obama has a lot to do with it.

Why Congress allows this type of crap to continue is another story.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: dfwgator on August 21, 2016, 04:49:51 pm
Well we know nothing will improve under Hillary.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: sinkspur on August 21, 2016, 04:55:40 pm
So they should not try. Right. They should not even attempt to get a compromise out of Obama, I guess.

The way McConnell and Bonehead fought for ObamaCare should never be forgiven.

What's there to forgive?  They both recognized they didn't have the votes.

That's the mistake Cruz made.  Thinking Obama was going to compromise on Obamacare was nothing but political opportunism by Cruz.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Longmire on August 21, 2016, 04:58:29 pm
Getting your State to stop accepting Federal funding is a far easier fight to win, which i the process diminishes the Feds' power over the States by strengthening the State's power over the Feds .

Complete nonsense of course...its much harder for state governments to stop taking federal funds and difficult to resist taking them in the first place.

Ask Kasich...if you can get him to stop eating



Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: geronl on August 21, 2016, 04:59:34 pm
What's there to forgive?  They both recognized they didn't have the votes.

That's the mistake Cruz made.  Thinking Obama was going to compromise on Obamacare was nothing but political opportunism by Cruz.

Losing a vote would be fine, but they went to bat for Obama. They never fought liberals as viciously
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: geronl on August 21, 2016, 05:00:48 pm
What's there to forgive?  They both recognized they didn't have the votes.

That's the mistake Cruz made.  Thinking Obama was going to compromise on Obamacare was nothing but political opportunism by Cruz.

?

The mistake Cruz made was thinking the GOP was on the same side as him. I will cheer when the Republican Party is destroyed. Loudly.
Title: Re: Eric Trump: My father will improve inner cities
Post by: Luis Gonzalez on August 21, 2016, 06:13:15 pm
Complete nonsense of course...its much harder for state governments to stop taking federal funds and difficult to resist taking them in the first place.

Ask Kasich...if you can get him to stop eating

Zero substance to your posts.

According to you, the john is a victim of the prostitutes and the pimps.