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General Category => Politics/Government => Topic started by: Right_in_Virginia on June 24, 2017, 10:34:49 pm
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Trump just ended a long tradition of celebrating Ramadan at the White House
Washington Post, Jun 24, 2017, Amy B Wang
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For the first time in nearly two decades, Ramadan has come and gone without the White House recognizing it with an iftar or Eid celebration, as had taken place each year under the Clinton, Bush and Obama administrations. In recent weeks, several former White House staff members told The Post they would usually begin planning an iftar “months in advance” and didn’t anticipate the Trump White House could pull something off before the end of Ramadan.
White House officials did not respond to repeated requests for comment.
In late May, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson reportedly said the State Department would break with recent tradition and not host a Ramadan reception, as it had done nearly annually for two decades. On Saturday, Tillerson released a brief statement sending “best wishes to all Muslims celebrating Eid al-Fitr.”
Read more: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-just-ended-a-long-tradition-of-celebrating-ramadan-at-the-white-house/ar-BBCOn4J?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
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Yeah, it was a long eight years.
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Yeah, it was a long eight years.
LOL my first thought as well.
It seemed a lot longer than it was.
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Hillary Clinton began the Ramadan dinner in 1996. GWB continued the dinners, hosting one each year of his presidency. And, no surprise, Obama hosted the dinners, too.
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Hillary Clinton began the Ramadan dinner in 1996. GWB continued the dinners, hosting one each year of his presidency. And, no surprise, Obama hosted the dinners, too.
Well it is about time they stopped.
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How about a thumbs up for this, at least?
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He really did this? I ask because I've seen no wailing and rending of garments on Twitter.
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If he really did this then good for him! It's about time.
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Trump just ended a long tradition of celebrating Ramadan at the White House
:thumbsup:
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Hillary Clinton began the Ramadan dinner in 1996. GWB continued the dinners, hosting one each year of his presidency. And, no surprise, Obama hosted the dinners, too.
Looks like a few played their sarcasm card too quickly. http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/Smileys/default/hwiiyp.gif
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Looks like a few played their sarcasm card too quickly. http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/Smileys/default/hwiiyp.gif
Looks like one needs to brush up on reading comprehension and work on her sour attitude.
@Right_in_Virginia, I hadn't heard anything about this and I'm glad Trump did it. Good on him.
Seems the reaction on Twitter was rather delayed. I see Andrea Mitchell is claiming Thomas Jefferson was the first to hold a Ramadan dinner, when in fact he did no such thing.
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I see Andrea Mitchell is claiming Thomas Jefferson was the first to hold a Ramadan dinner, when in fact he did no such thing.
Correct. It was not an Iftar. Jefferson did, however, move the time of the dinner from 3:30 to sunset, in deference to his guest's needs. Which, lets face it, is something most of us would do too as it is simple politeness.
Politeness is something the Left needs lessons in. 22222frying pan
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Correct. It was not an Iftar. Jefferson did, however, move the time of the dinner from 3:30 to sunset, in deference to his guest's needs. Which, lets face it, is something most of us would do too as it is simple politeness.
Politeness is something the Left needs lessons in. 22222frying pan
Exactly, versus allowing a formal celebration of this cult as legit. You think an Arab state would ever allow celebration of Christmas? :silly:
Try even to get a bible in these cesspools. Hypocritic Goat F'ers.
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Correct. It was not an Iftar. Jefferson did, however, move the time of the dinner from 3:30 to sunset, in deference to his guest's needs. Which, lets face it, is something most of us would do too as it is simple politeness.
Politeness is something the Left needs lessons in. 22222frying pan
@EC
Plain lying and outright violence come much more naturally to them.
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Looks like one needs to brush up on reading comprehension and work on her sour attitude.
@Right_in_Virginia, I hadn't heard anything about this and I'm glad Trump did it. Good on him.
Seems the reaction on Twitter was rather delayed. I see Andrea Mitchell is claiming Thomas Jefferson was the first to hold a Ramadan dinner, when in fact he did no such thing.
@CatherineofAragon
Here's a little more information on Jefferson's "Ramadan dinner" *****rollingeyes*****
Fake News: Washington Post Claims Thomas Jefferson Held White House Iftar Dinner to ‘Celebrate Ramadan’
Breitbart, Jun 25, 2017
The often-used claim that Thomas Jefferson held the first Iftar dinner at the White House was trotted out by the Post’s Wang. She recounted the time when the diplomatic envoy from the Bey of Tunis, Sidi Soliman Melli Melli, visited Washington during Ramadan in 1805.
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Jefferson invited the envoy to the White House for dinner at 3:30 PM—the time most Washingtonians had dinner in those days. But after he sent the invitation he was told that Melli Melli could not partake of a meal until after sunset because of Ramadan. Thomas Jefferson was faced with two choices: cancel the dinner entirely or simply have the meal later in the evening at a time when his guest could attend. As a good host and a decent person, Jefferson chose the latter.
In fact, all Jefferson did was change the time of his meal. He had no intention of honoring Islam. Jefferson simply was not honoring the religion of “the Musselmen”—as he termed Muslims at the time—when he changed the time of the meal. Also, there is no evidence that Jefferson asked Melli Melli what sort of food a “Musselman” would eat, so no special food was prepared to suit a Muslim’s religious needs. Jefferson neither inquired about religious accommodations nor was any made. All he did was move the time of the meal as a courtesy.
Further, Jefferson sent no letters containing proclamations about the meal being an Iftar dinner nor mentioning Islam, he never mentioned such honors in his private papers, and there is no record that he spoke to anyone about his intentions to honor the Muslim practice of an Iftar dinner.
More: http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2017/06/25/fake-news-washington-post-claims-thomas-jefferson-held-white-house-iftar-dinner-celebrate-ramadan/
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@CatherineofAragon
Here's a little more information on Jefferson's "Ramadan dinner" *****rollingeyes*****
So.... per usual.... the idiot left makes a LOT of assumptions (lies) about the issue. I'm... shocked.
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I'm going to be fair and annoy you all at the same time:
The founding fathers did have a respect and gratitude for the Muslims of at least one nation. Back when you were still rebellious colonies to most of the world, one nation recognised your declaration of nationhood. That nation was Morroco. Muslim then as it is today. - :tongue2:
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So.... per usual.... the idiot left makes a LOT of assumptions (lies) about the issue. I'm... shocked.
They're either lying about current events or rewriting history. These liberals are quite a resource. (I hope the sarcasm tag isn't necessary) 88devil
@XenaLee
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I'm going to be fair and annoy you all at the same time:
The founding fathers did have a respect and gratitude for the Muslims of at least one nation. Back when you were still rebellious colonies to most of the world, one nation recognised your declaration of nationhood. That nation was Morroco. Muslim then as it is today. - :tongue2:
In my youth myself and almost everyone else had a respect for the religion (pre-'79). Then they had no designs on world domination. Starting in 1979 it starting going to hell. Now battle lines are being drawn.
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@CatherineofAragon
Here's a little more information on Jefferson's "Ramadan dinner" *****rollingeyes*****
@Right_in_Virginia
Thanks...interesting. Jefferson was the first president to deal with Muslim terrorism in the form of the Barbary pirates. It makes no sense that he would have been anxious to accommodate Islam at a time prior to self-destructive political correctness.
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Piracy was a world wide thing back then. America was full of terrorists when the Europeans got here. The American Indians specialized in terrorizing each other and later, the Europeans.
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Well it is about time they stopped.
Yes! People are always crying separation of church and state but here we have been celebrating one religion above all the others. And before anyone says National Day of Prayer, or Prayer Breakfast it isn't to any one religion. It is a day of prayer. They have opened Congress with prayers from different religions. But this dinner is a dinner molded around the celebration of Islam.
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Correct. It was not an Iftar. Jefferson did, however, move the time of the dinner from 3:30 to sunset, in deference to his guest's needs. Which, lets face it, is something most of us would do too as it is simple politeness.
Politeness is something the Left needs lessons in. 22222frying pan
Because Jefferson and the Muslims were such pals? I think not. http://freedomoutpost.com/barbary-wars-how-thomas-jefferson-led-americas-first-war-on-terror/ (http://freedomoutpost.com/barbary-wars-how-thomas-jefferson-led-americas-first-war-on-terror/)
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@Right_in_Virginia
Thanks...interesting. Jefferson was the first president to deal with Muslim terrorism in the form of the Barbary pirates. It makes no sense that he would have been anxious to accommodate Islam at a time prior to self-destructive political correctness.
@CatherineofAragon
Agree!! 888high58888