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Title: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Chieftain on October 30, 2013, 01:28:00 pm
Auntie Ester is testifying on the hill about Obamacare...

http://www.c-span.org/Events/HHS-Secretary-Testifies-on-HealthCaregov-Enrollment-Issues/10737442357-1/

I expect this to largely be about dodging any definitive answers by Sebelius and efforts by Dhimmies like Nostrilitis Waxman to change the subject.

Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 01:31:43 pm
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Amanda Carpenter ‏@amandacarpenter 41s

HHS Sec. Sebelius is looking extremely frustrated. Gonna be a long morning for her


She does look frustrated already.....she will get some breaks when the Dems ask questions
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 01:32:55 pm
Blackburn really is grilling her


Sebelius admits she is responsible for the site.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 01:33:40 pm
Dingel questioning now and I can't understand anything he says
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 01:34:18 pm

Katie Pavlich‏@KatiePavlich   
It's all Verizon's fault, guys. #Sebelius

Lucianne Goldberg ‏@LucianneLinks  1m 
Feisty Blackburn shows screen shot of crashed Healthcare website. Not taking any guff from Queen Kathleen.

 Retweeted by Jonathan S. Tobin
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 01:35:13 pm
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Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller 13s

Headline Quote from Sebelius on website problem: "Hold me accountable for the debacle. I'm responsible."


Okay...fire her!
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 01:36:03 pm
Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  2m 
Reminder: Sebelius has long history of wielding govt brass knuckles to threaten any who criticize Obamacare==> http://michellemalkin.com/2013/10/30/the-thuggery-of-obamacare-czarina-kathleen-sebelius/ …


Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich  4m 
"Some people like to drink out of a red solo cup and not a crystal stem" -Blackburn on ppl losing choices in the marketplace #Sebelius

Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich  6m 
#Sebelius is now trying to say that the press is lying about people losing their plans? "They need to be accurate about what is going on"



Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 01:37:13 pm
Varney & Co. ‏@Varneyco 1m

Sebelius: "It is insurance companies cancelling policies for individuals"
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 01:39:34 pm
The insurance companies have no choice since the policies don't comply with ACA rules.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Bigun on October 30, 2013, 01:45:41 pm
I was watching until WAXMAN came on and I had to leave! He makes me want to BARF!!!
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 01:46:31 pm

Senator Ted Cruz
How many of the millions of Americans Secretary #Sebelius said want to check out Obamacare plans are shopping for insurance because their plans were cancelled?

Mike Memoli ‏@mikememoli  1m 
Sebelius says she wouldn't support delaying penalty while problems are fixed with online exchanges.


Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich  1m 
"Please comment on the privacy issue and why it's irrelevant" -Pallone to #Sebelius
 

 Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich  3m 
Democrat Frank "Monkey Court" Pallone of New Jersey calls privacy concerns over your health care info a "red herring" #Sebelius


Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 01:47:19 pm
I was watching until WAXMAN came on and I had to leave! He makes me want to BARF!!!

It's nasty when someone is not only homely, but stupid and evil, as well.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 01:47:26 pm
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Jonah Goldberg ‏@JonahNRO 1m

Waxman, Pallone, Sebellius...I get it now. The Dems want to win this using personal charm and charisma.

Of course the Dems are the *good cops*with their softball questions,  whereas the Repubs are the *bad cops* asking pointed questions.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Bigun on October 30, 2013, 01:48:45 pm
The insurance companies have no choice since the policies don't comply with ACA rules.

Well of course! You and I both know that consumers aren't smart enough to determine what kind of insurance coverages they need and must have the government decide for them! /Sarc

OH! BTW, The big insurance companies were and are in this up to their necks!
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 01:50:57 pm
Dan Andros ?@DanAndros  11m 
Shorter Sebelius: People are totally free to choose to buy whatever type of plan we are forcing them to buy.

Michelle Malkin ?@michellemalkin  18s 
What the hell.

Sonny Bunch ?@SonnyBunch  6m 
Shorter Sebelius: "Yes, you were told you could keep your insurance if you liked it, but what difference, at this point, does it make?"

Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 01:54:59 pm
Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich  2m 
Someone better ask #Sebelius about single-payer

Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 02:00:40 pm
Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  51s 
Q: Is there a penalty for CGI not fulfilling contract? Sebelius: Blahblahblahblah. No.

Senator Ted Cruz ‏@SenTedCruz  8s 
Secretary #Sebelius says "hold me accountable for the debacle." We should. And President Obama, too. #MakeDCListen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs9PIjzUBAQ …

Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 02:03:04 pm

John Podhoretz ‏@jpodhoretz  2m 
Republican Rep asks about pro-life views; someone on mic says "Oh, HERE we go"

 Jonah Goldberg ‏@JonahNRO  4m 
I can't wait for the "Rains of Castamere" to start playing in the background of this hearing.

 

 Hannah Wilkins ‏@ItsHannuhhhh  2m 
"The problem with this whole debate, is y'all don't tell us who makes the decisions!"- Rep. Shimkus to Sebelius

 Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  2m 
Asked about Washington Post rating Obama's "you can keep your plan" vow 4 Pinocchios, Sebelius says she doesn't read the Washington Post.


Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Chieftain on October 30, 2013, 02:03:20 pm
Aunt Ester was just asked directly if she had a list of approved providers that do NOT offer abortion as part of their coverage.

She says she will have to get that information to the committee at some future date.

I'll bet you a burger that the answer is ZERO.  Abortion services are part of the mandatory coverage that is replacing all of those policies that are being cancelled.  That means a 50 year old single man will have to buy and pay for a policy that provides him abortion services.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 02:04:22 pm
Greta Van Susteren ‏@gretawire 14s

#Sebelius: this is the law, not a debate, passed by Congress,signed by Pres,upheld in SCt and Pres re-elected
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 02:06:06 pm
Varney & Co. ‏@Varneyco 47s

McCaughey to FBN: "What has been rolled out is not the law. It's been mangled by Kathleen Sebelius."
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 02:08:08 pm
Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich  3m 
Hey Republicans, if you don't ask #Sebelius about the road to single payer during this hearing you #fail

Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  50s 
BWAHAHAHAHA: Sebelius: The website has never 'crashed.' It's functional, just at a slower speed.

Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 02:18:05 pm
Jamie Dupree ‏@jamiedupree 45s

Rep Gene Green D-TX: "The President was correct; if you like what you have, you could keep it" Sebelius: "Yes sir"




Ron Fournier ‏@ron_fournier 1m

This hearing is a joke. Bad questions & answers, high stakes. It's like watching the Astros play the White Sox in the World Series.





David Freddoso ‏@freddoso 3m

They wrote the regs so that your plan would be cancelled.



Debra Burlingame ‏@DebraBurlingame 59s

Sebelius pretending that "market rules" causing ins. cancellations aren't now written by HER.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 02:19:26 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BX1LIfeCAAAIbwG.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 02:21:27 pm
David Freddoso ‏@freddoso  5m 
They wrote the regs so that your plan would be cancelled.


Scott Meredith ‏@ScottM111  6m 
@Heritage Did ya'll expect anything positive out of a liberal agenda to socialize us?

 Chris Jacobs ‏@chrisjacobsHC  13m 
.@kksheld @bdomenech Here's how @WhiteHouse changed the grandfathered plan regs, to downplay their impact: http://herit.ag/HotX85


 Kris Held,MD ‏@kksheld  18m 
"The reg re Grandfathered plans was never changed"- Sebilus is spouting talking points and not answering questions truthfully.


Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Chieftain on October 30, 2013, 02:22:31 pm
I'm near profanity here...Aunt Ester is now using the Hildebeest Benghazi response formula: What difference does it make??  It isn't productive to fix any blame here, let's just move forward....

Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 02:24:11 pm
Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  1m 
Colorado's Diane DeGette actually sounds disturbed by website debacle. Sebelius lectures her that it's not helpful to point fingers & blame.

Kevin Smith ‏@KG_Smith  1m 
PHOTO: While @Sebelius is testifying on the http://healthcare.gov  website, the log-in page is down & not working
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Chieftain on October 30, 2013, 02:25:05 pm
"We have no reliable numbers to date."

Bullshit.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Chieftain on October 30, 2013, 02:27:09 pm
"No reliable date through the system is one of the problems we have>"

"The system is not functioning, which is why we are not getting the reliable data."

All bullshit.  If they had any good numbers at all they would be presenting them.  The only reason for delay is because they know damned well what those numbers are and they are deeply embarrassing to Obama himself.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 02:27:37 pm

Brad M.D. ‏@BradMD  1m 
REPEAL OBAMACARE. The solution is PATIENT POWER via free markets with price and product transparency. #pjnet


 Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  1m 
Nebraska Rep. Terry notes his state's insurance commissioner has no data on Obamacare enrollment. Sebelius: We have no reliable data.



 Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich  1m 
"We do not have any reliable date about enrollment" -#Sebelius still can't tell us how many people have signed up for Obamacare


Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 02:28:14 pm
I'm near profanity here...Aunt Ester is now using the Hildebeest Benghazi response formula: What difference does it make??  It isn't productive to fix any blame here, let's just move forward....

This is a joke...she says the site never crashed...just a little slow....no one calls her on this or really anything else...even the Repubs[other than Blackburn] have asked any hardball questions...
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 02:29:24 pm
"No reliable date through the system is one of the problems we have>"

"The system is not functioning, which is why we are not getting the reliable data."

All bullshit.  If they had any good numbers at all they would be presenting them.  The only reason for delay is because they know damned well what those numbers are and they are deeply embarrassing to Obama himself.

This is a bullsh*t hearing! Democrats are defending ACA, while the republicans recognize it as a hearing...so far.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 02:30:15 pm
This is a joke...she says the site never crashed...just a little slow....no one calls her on this or really anything else...even the Repubs[other than Blackburn] have asked any hardball questions...

I was thinking the same thing. Blackburn did a good job. Too bad they all aren't gutsy like her.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 02:30:18 pm
Quote
Kelly O'Donnell ‏@KellyO 2m

"The system isn't functioning..."Sebelius on why they can't say how many have enrolled
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Chieftain on October 30, 2013, 02:31:07 pm
"We won't have data till the end of the month."

Wait a minute.  Yesterday they were saying there would be data mid-month.

The lies continue.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 02:32:00 pm

Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich  1m 
Single. Payer. Single. Payer. Republicans let me help you: "Ms. #Sebelius, was this system set up to lead to a single payer system?"
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Chieftain on October 30, 2013, 02:32:41 pm
This is a bullsh*t hearing! Democrats are defending ACA, while the republicans recognize it as a hearing...so far.

Yep...no meaningful questions from the Dhimmies yet, mainly recitation of talking points, or changing the subject to anything but the website operations.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Bigun on October 30, 2013, 02:34:51 pm
This is a bullsh*t hearing! Democrats are defending ACA, while the republicans recognize it as a hearing...so far.

This hearing is just further proof that America is DOOMED if what we are seeing played out does not result in a HUGE political earthquake in 2014 and 2016!

THAT is the bottom line to all of this!
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 02:35:27 pm

Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  21s 
Sebelius gets all hot & bothered when Rep. Terry asks if his state can get enrollment data. "The system is not functioning," she hisses.
 
 Speaker John Boehner ‏@SpeakerBoehner  44s 
Via @BloombergNews: “California coverage cancellations show #ObamaCare price


Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 02:37:13 pm
Shannon Bream ‏@ShannonBream 1m

RepRogers to SecSebelius - You allowed http://healthcare.gov  to go live w major privacy risk, didn't even have basic testing, encryption
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Chieftain on October 30, 2013, 02:37:53 pm
Let me see if I understand this correctly.  From what I just heard, not only was there no end-to-end testing done on the Security of the system, the ongoing "hot fixes" and "patches" being installed to improve functionality have not been tested either, and may in fact further compromise what little security the site ever had.

I know we have people here who are tech wizards, so please feel free to correct me on the above if I misunderstood it.....
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 02:40:31 pm
Right, Chieftan!


Avik Roy ‏@avik  3m 
Rep. Rogers (MI): #Sebelius put Americans' sensitive personal information at risk by opening website without security testing.
 

 John Hayward ‏@Doc_0  4m 
Giving all these people who have "no reliable data" and zero accountability control of health care is working out great.

 
 MediaResearchCenter ‏@theMRC  1m 
Joe Scarborough and Company Refuse to Admit Obama ‘Lied’ About ObamaCare http://ow.ly/2Bby1m


 MediaResearchCenter ‏@theMRC  1m 
Look on the Bright Side! CNN Relays ObamaCare Spin After WH Admits Some Will Lose Insurance http://ow.ly/2Bby1n

Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 02:41:47 pm

Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich  42s 
Shorter Dem. Doyle: How do we sucker young people into paying for this massive thing, Ms. #Sebelius?
 

 Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich  1m 
Apparently Democrat Michael Doyle thinks millions of people losing their coverage is "Republican propaganda" #Sebelius

Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 02:43:43 pm

Shannon Bream ‏@ShannonBream  4m 
RepDoyle says - GOP's real fear is that Obamacare will succeed, they've been doing propaganda push
 Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  1m 
Dem. Rep. Doyle - "We need a marketing campaign." #debacle

 Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich  1m 
OMG, Dem. Rep. Doyle calls a 33-year-old a "kid" working for him. GAH. 33-year-olds are not freaking KIDS.

 

 Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich  2m 
Shorter Dem. Doyle: How do we sucker young people into paying for this massive thing, Ms. #Sebelius?


Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 02:44:22 pm
Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  1m 
Hey Democrats, telling consumers who can't get on website that

Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Chieftain on October 30, 2013, 02:44:40 pm
And security of the system would take at least 2 months worth of active testing before it could be certified.  And that's before you ever get to any of the other functionality problems of the system.  Without a secure system there is absolutely no telling who will get their hands on all of your most personal data.

How long will it be until we hear of some hacker accessing IRS files via the Obamacare website??  Care to bet me someone isn't trying to do just that right now???

Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 02:46:16 pm
Let me see if I understand this correctly.  From what I just heard, not only was there no end-to-end testing done on the Security of the system, the ongoing "hot fixes" and "patches" being installed to improve functionality have not been tested either, and may in fact further compromise what little security the site ever had.

I know we have people here who are tech wizards, so please feel free to correct me on the above if I misunderstood it.....

She flat out refused to shut down the site, before making sure there was an end to end test of Security of ppls Financials!
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 02:46:37 pm
And security of the system would take at least 2 months worth of active testing before it could be certified.  And that's before you ever get to any of the other functionality problems of the system.  Without a secure system there is absolutely no telling who will get their hands on all of your most personal data.

How long will it be until we hear of some hacker accessing IRS files via the Obamacare website??  Care to bet me someone isn't trying to do just that right now???

No bets from me. I wouldn't be surprised if someone's private information is not in use in some nefarious endeavor.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 02:47:24 pm

Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich  1m 
New Democratic slogan for 33-year-old children, "Forever young!" #Sebelius

 

 Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  2m 
Dear Lord. Democrat Rep. Doyle brags that his wife is paying for their 33 yr old son's health insurance.


Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: EC on October 30, 2013, 02:47:55 pm
And security of the system would take at least 2 months worth of active testing before it could be certified.  And that's before you ever get to any of the other functionality problems of the system.  Without a secure system there is absolutely no telling who will get their hands on all of your most personal data.

How long will it be until we hear of some hacker accessing IRS files via the Obamacare website??  Care to bet me someone isn't trying to do just that right now???

Sorry mate - I don't take sucker bets  :laugh:

There is exactly zero chance people aren't just getting in but also posting exploits and back doors on private message boards or IRC channels.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 02:49:11 pm

Speaker John Boehner ‏@SpeakerBoehner  1m 
From @weartv: Florida family’s $82 a month health plan canceled under #ObamaCare; new plan would be $497 http://j.mp/1htwk78  #trainwreck

 Laura Ingraham ‏@IngrahamAngle  1m 
Hilarious to hear #Sebelius tell journos "it's impt to be accurate" today.  She after all is an expert in accuracy.


 Heritage Foundation ‏@Heritage  1m 
"I couldn't keep my plan" - more stories: http://herit.ag/1hqrojk  #Obamacare



 Brent Bozell ‏@BrentBozell  17h 
Why did @ABC & CBSNews censor this bombshell? Because it destroys—not undermines—destroys Obama’s credibility http://bit.ly/HqzmMc



 Heritage Foundation ‏@Heritage  1m 
It's not just conservative media -- everyone is reporting the #Obamacare disaster: http://herit.ag/Hr2qD6


Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 02:49:50 pm
Obamacare Website Company CGI Federal Contributed to Obama Campaign
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,118233.new.html#new (http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,118233.new.html#new)
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: SlapLeather on October 30, 2013, 02:50:15 pm
Nice to know that we can spy on anyone and everyone on God's green earth, but we can't make a website work… What could possibly go wrong?

Don't you see the Value Added Value of these Valuable Geniuses?

Deceit of Biblical proportion.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 02:51:22 pm
Dems talking points must have went out last night...all the Dems are saying basically the same thing....*Repubs want this to fail and this is faux outrage on their part*
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 02:53:24 pm
Bill Hemmer ‏@BillHemmer 2m

Mid-November. Drink. #Obamacare
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: musiclady on October 30, 2013, 02:53:34 pm
Dems talking points must have went out last night...all the Dems are saying basically the same thing....*Repubs want this to fail and this is faux outrage on their part*

Oh..............so the fact that millions of people are losing their health care, their jobs, and their savings is no big deal.  Just Republican "faux outrage??"

Yikes, these people are sick.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 02:59:27 pm
Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich 3m

It's a sad day in America when it's no longer embarrassing to have your mother paying for your health insurance at 33-years-old.



He's just a kid ya know!
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 03:00:30 pm
talkradio200 ‏@talkradio200  2m 
Rep Matsui claims all Americans will have affordable quality health insurance. CBO claims 30 million will still not have insurance.

Tyler Ness ‏@tylerjness  3m 
Congresswoman Matsui said ACA is working in California. That's why 900,000 Californians have lost their individual coverage? Working great

Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 03:00:33 pm
(http://thisistwitchy.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/constipationface.jpg?w=430&h=649)
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 03:01:22 pm
Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich 3m

It's a sad day in America when it's no longer embarrassing to have your mother paying for your health insurance at 33-years-old.



He's just a kid ya know!

He said earlier that his son has his own business. Must be marketing from home...Mommy's home.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 03:01:49 pm
Speaker John Boehner ‏@SpeakerBoehner 2m

Secretary @Sebelius said #ObamaCare website has never crashed: http://www.speaker.gov/general/system-down-sebelius-claims-obamacare-website-has-never-crashed … Here is the website now

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BX1UoXECEAEFrC5.png:large)

Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Bigun on October 30, 2013, 03:02:22 pm
Sorry mate - I don't take sucker bets  :laugh:

There is exactly zero chance people aren't just getting in but also posting exploits and back doors on private message boards or IRC channels.

I have cautioned everyone within my circle to stay as far away from that site as humanly possible! It is a hacker's dream!
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 03:02:23 pm
He said earlier that his son has his own business. Must be marketing from home...Mommy's home.

I bet he has a room in the basement...
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 03:03:38 pm
I have cautioned everyone within my circle to stay as far away from that site as humanly possible! It is a hacker's dream!

I haven't even gone there to look at it...lol
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 03:04:11 pm
I bet he has a room in the basement...

 :silly: I bet he does, too. Or Mommy made him a room above the garage.

Are you noticing Sebelius' reactions? The beeyotch is getting mad!
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: SlapLeather on October 30, 2013, 03:04:27 pm
Speaker John Boehner ‏@SpeakerBoehner 2m

Secretary @Sebelius said #ObamaCare website has never crashed: http://www.speaker.gov/general/system-down-sebelius-claims-obamacare-website-has-never-crashed … Here is the website now

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BX1UoXECEAEFrC5.png:large)

Yes, Speaker Boehner.  You certainly fought the good fight!  I shed a tear...
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 03:05:53 pm
 Video: Hot Mic Moment with Sebelius on Abortion - ‘Oh, Here We Go’
Via MSNBC's Live Coverage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JkKMg06bcY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JkKMg06bcY)

At about 20 seconds in. So, who said it???? - Greg Pollowitz
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 03:08:00 pm
Philip Klein ‏@philipaklein 3m

Sebelius says she won't issue hardship exemptions to people who get their insurance cancelled, even though exchanges don't work.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 03:10:12 pm
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Karen, RN ‏@kdubrn 1m

UNBELIEVABLE! These Dems at Congressional hearing pretending that the ACA disaster is imaginary-all dreamed up by R's to undermine it.

This is exactly what is happening...the Dems are all united in this....talking points went out!
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 03:11:15 pm
Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich 12s

"As we fix things we'll know more about what is broken along the way" -#Sebelius, so they don't even know what's broken yet? Really?
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 03:15:18 pm
Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  1m 
Gingrey nails Sebelius on applying for hardship exemption on website. Can you apply now? Sebelius: I don't know. Gingrey: I do. It's no.


Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  20s 
Scalise did not let Sebelius get away with blaming insurers.


 Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  1m 
Excellent @SteveScalise - hammered Sebelius on her smug reply to those who've lost plans they can't keep.


Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 03:30:25 pm
Dr. Milton Wolf ‏@miltonwolfmd  3m 
Remember: Sen. Pat Roberts voted for Sebelius --> Amid turmoil, Kathleen Sebelius takes the hot seat: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/10/obamacare-kathleen-sebelius-99067.html#.UnEd92gK4Mg.twitter … #MakeDCListen

Grabien ‏@GrabienMedia  5m 
VIDEO - Rep. Scalise: Who Decided To Hide Prices from Consumers Until They Enroll

Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich  2m 
Democrat asks #sebelius if she's willing to extend the enrollment period since ppl were promised 6 months to enroll. She said no.

Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  2m 
Braley wants Sebelius to extend enrollment period for 2 more months. Sebelius says no.

Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 03:33:27 pm

Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich  49s 
#Sebelius tries to save Obama "I am responsible for implementation"

 Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  1m 
Sebelius covers for Obama. Says she's responsible for rollout, not him, even though she answers to him.


Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 03:33:55 pm
John Podhoretz ‏@jpodhoretz 1m

"Is the president responsible?" Sibelius: "Whatever."
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: mystery-ak on October 30, 2013, 03:35:17 pm
John Podhoretz ‏@jpodhoretz 50s

I await an exasperated Sibelius miming an "L" with her fingers when a Republican questions her.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Lipstick on a Hillary on October 30, 2013, 03:36:56 pm
Thank you for these updates.  I can only check in periodically so this thread is a big help!
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: jmyrlefuller on October 30, 2013, 03:43:44 pm
John Podhoretz ‏@jpodhoretz 1m

"Is the president responsible?" Sibelius: "Whatever."
Compare to "What difference... does it make?" and it becomes blatantly apparent the attitude of this administration.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 03:45:01 pm
Your welcome. I will have to leave for a while in a few.

Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  22s 
Sebelius cheering Medicaid expansion in Ohio. Heckuva job, Kasich. #smh

Bret Baier ‏@BretBaier  4m 
Committee members just informed they now have 2 mins to ask questions instead of 4-- to allow everyone to ask. #fnpoltics #SebeliusHearing


Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 03:45:54 pm

Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  1m 
FYI - Kasich, Obamacare tool ==> http://mediatrackers.org/ohio/2013/10/29/gov-kasich-touts-false-obamacare-claims-meet-press …
 
 Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  1m 
Sebelius cheering Medicaid expansion in Ohio. Heckuva job, Kasich. #smh



Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: musiclady on October 30, 2013, 03:48:10 pm
Compare to "What difference... does it make?" and it becomes blatantly apparent the attitude of this administration.

As long as the Marxist agenda is moved forward, who cares about anything else??
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: flowers on October 30, 2013, 03:52:25 pm
I just got here, how much longer does this hearing have? did I miss anything important? I will read the rest of the posts after posting :smokin:
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: DCPatriot on October 30, 2013, 04:14:09 pm
Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich 12s

"As we fix things we'll know more about what is broken along the way" -#Sebelius, so they don't even know what's broken yet? Really?

My understanding is that at some point in the registration 'process'....all the information must travel to one or more website databases....the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, the ACA, etc., BEFORE a money quote on assorted leveled plans available to you.

If one of these sites rejects the information...it ALL does down.

That's why it's said this data program cannot be cut and pasted to correct the problems...it must be initiated from scratch.  Too many 'broken limbs' for it to function properly.

Now...if it was deliberate on the part of Sabelius & Co., is another question.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 04:20:12 pm
Rep. Cory Gardner  ‏@repcorygardner  1h 
My ins. cancelled thx to Obamacare. Sebelius refuses to admit to a bait & switch. Millions will lose ins. they were told they could keep.

.@MittRomney rejects White House effort to compare #Massachusetts health law rollout to #ObamaCare http://fxn.ws/1aDrS0L

Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  9m 
KS GOP Rep Mike Pompeo - BAM! Nailed Sebelius on not enrolling herself in exchange like he did.


Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  8m 
Rep. Pompeo also pressed Sebelius on stupid Obamacare keg stand ads here in Colorado. She says she couldn't see it.   
 
 Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  10m 
KS GOP Rep Mike Pompeo - BAM! Nailed Sebelius on not enrolling herself in exchange like he did.

 Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich  10m 
Lol "Do you approve of advertising for Obamacare showing college students doing keg stands?" #sebelius

 

 DRUDGE REPORT ‏@DRUDGE_REPORT  10m 
Congressman compares Obamacare to 'wonderful' Wizard of Oz... http://drudge.tw/HuJzpQ

 

 MediaResearchCenter ‏@theMRC  12m 
RT @FRCdc: D.C. Obamacare Exchange Plans All Pay For Abortion: http://ow.ly/qjXHT   @AnnaHigginsFRC #betransparent #religiousliberty

 Rep. Steve Scalise ‏@SteveScalise  16m 
@michellemalkin, neither will the American people. Obamacare is riddled with broken promises as people lose their plans and costs skyrocket.

 Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  14m 
Democrat Kathy Castor of Florida: Obamacare is like "finding water in the desert." She's about to shed a tear.


Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 04:22:04 pm

Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  1m 
GOP: You need to debunk the repeated LIE from Sebelius & Dems that individual market consumers are getting "better," cheaper plans.


 Andrea Tantaros ‏@AndreaTantaros  2m 
Sebelius said it's "illegal" for her to go into the exchanges and waive her employer based care. This Admin is very comfortable lying.


 Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich  4m 
So #Sebelius claims she informed Obama about progress yet Obama says he knew nothing.


Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 04:27:44 pm

Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  1m 
Surreal. Sarbanes compares indiv market cancellations to buying baseball tickets at window that closes then moving to another window.

 Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich  2m 
"Nobody has operated a system like this, to this degree, befpre" -#Sebelius um, Kayak? Expedia?
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: flowers on October 30, 2013, 04:32:42 pm
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Greta Van Susteren ‏@gretawire 1m

Sebelius: I would gladly join the exchange if i did not have affordable work provided insurance

Yet we lose ours because of your law..:banging:
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: flowers on October 30, 2013, 04:33:06 pm
 Susan Ferrechio ‏@susanferrechio 59m

Sebelius said she believes it would be "illegal" for her to join the exchanges, but added she would gladly join them if she was uninsured.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 04:34:39 pm
I hope people are listening. Sebelius admitted people are forced to buy insurance they don't need. For instance, single men need maternity, and women needed a prostrate checkup.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: DCPatriot on October 30, 2013, 04:36:09 pm

....and women needed a prostrate checkup.



  :pondering:

Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 04:36:35 pm

Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich  2m 
"To the best of your knowledge has man ever delivered a baby?" -Rep. Elmers. "I don' think so" -#Sebelius


 Michelle Malkin ‏@michellemalkin  2m 
Read my column for reminder of what Torquemada Waxman tried to do to firms that reported Obamacare-related costs http://michellemalkin.com/2013/10/30/the-thuggery-of-obamacare-czarina-kathleen-sebelius/ …


 Katie Pavlich ‏@KatiePavlich  3m 
Hey Dudes! Lucky you! You now have maternity coverage!! #Sebelius


 Laura Ingraham ‏@IngrahamAngle  3m 
Hand-out Nation or Helping Hand? "Would you ask the public for $1 donations to help your family?" Read this. http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region_northern_az/flagstaff/homeless-family-in-flagstaff-asking-for-one-dollar

 
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 04:37:09 pm
ITS OVER, AND NOTHING NEW WAS LEARNED!
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: flowers on October 30, 2013, 04:38:06 pm
I hope people are listening. Sebelius admitted people are forced to buy insurance they don't need. For instance, single men need maternity, and women needed a prostrate checkup.
Does that mean at my age 55 I can still get free birth control pills..... :whistle:

 :smokin:   :seeya:
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: flowers on October 30, 2013, 04:39:04 pm
ITS OVER, AND NOTHING NEW WAS LEARNED!
Did you really think anything would be? I didn't.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 04:39:16 pm
Does that mean at my age 55 I can still get free birth control pills..... :whistle:

 :smokin:   :seeya:

 :silly: Here are a couple more tweets you might enjoy:


Truth is Clear ‏@ClearlyTruth  2m 
Nobody's here. RT"@iowahawkblog: "Nobody is madder than me about the website problems."
"Oh yeah? I am."
"Well, then you're nobody.""


 Katy Abram ‏@katyabram  6m 
wow yep RT @AmyKremer: Did #Sebelius really just whisper under her breath, "Don't do this to me." #Obamacare


Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: EC on October 30, 2013, 04:42:50 pm
I hope people are listening. Sebelius admitted people are forced to buy insurance they don't need. For instance, single men need maternity, and women needed a prostrate checkup.

Look - it is a committee hearing. Solemn and serious. STOP MAKING ME LAUGH!
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 04:44:04 pm
Look - it is a committee hearing. Solemn and serious. STOP MAKING ME LAUGH!

The hearings made me laugh.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Lipstick on a Hillary on October 30, 2013, 05:09:16 pm
Was reading a FB post from my local news outlet.  9 out of 10 people came on the discussion and  blasted Obamacare--including several black posters.   :laugh:
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 05:16:16 pm
Was reading a FB post from my local news outlet.  9 out of 10 people came on the discussion and  blasted Obamacare--including several black posters.   :laugh:

We have our local die-hards who don't mention they are already covered under their company policies. Otherwise, people generally hate.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Rapunzel on October 30, 2013, 11:14:25 pm
Marsha Blackburn and Mike Rogers did the best job today IMHO.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 11:16:16 pm
Marsha Blackburn and Mike Rogers did the best job today IMHO.

Agree! The others were so bland, and didn't add anything. Those hearings aren't hearings. Most were putting on a show for votes.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Rapunzel on October 30, 2013, 11:26:04 pm
Agree! The others were so bland, and didn't add anything. Those hearings aren't hearings. Most were putting on a show for votes.

Which is why we need Boehner to get off the dime and name select committees for everything.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 30, 2013, 11:34:49 pm
MediaResearchCenter ‏@theMRC  1m 
Amid ObamaCare Disaster, NBC's Todd Insists GOP 'Has No Interest in Governing' http://ow.ly/2BckTP

 TwitchyTeam ‏@TwitchyTeam  47m 
'His subsidy amount is?' White House touts low Obamacare premium; Citizens have questions http://bit.ly/1f4Icuf
 Mark Weber ‏@web61  46m 

 I Am So Smart ‏@IAmSoSmart  46m 
“@TwitchyTeam: 'His subsidy amount is?' White House touts low Obamacare premium; Citizens have questions http://bit.ly/1f4Icuf ”
 

 Randy Adams ‏@randalladams  13m 
@TwitchyTeam @michellemalkin His subsidy is what you and I are paying so he can have such low premiums! The question is how much for us?


 #IH8Obamacare Period ‏@FireobamaIn2012  6m 
@TwitchyTeam for some reason millions now need my money to buy #obamacare, when they were doing fine on their own before!



Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Millee on October 30, 2013, 11:43:34 pm
A caller into Hannity today pointed out how Obama always has women take the fall for him.  Sibelius, Rice, Lerner etc....  I found that to be a interesting observation and I believe NOW would be screaming from the rafters had it been Bush/Republican.   :nono:
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Cincinnatus on October 30, 2013, 11:47:38 pm
A caller into Hannity today pointed out how Obama always has women take the fall for him

Clinton was another Democrat known for hiding behind women's skirts, especially, but not exclusively, Hillary's.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: musiclady on October 30, 2013, 11:58:33 pm
A caller into Hannity today pointed out how Obama always has women take the fall for him.  Sibelius, Rice, Lerner etc....  I found that to be a interesting observation and I believe NOW would be screaming from the rafters had it been Bush/Republican.   :nono:

I think Obama's Muslim sympathies/affiliation has made him a misogynist.

My guess is that he would gladly let a woman take the fall for him because he has no respect for women.

(As opposed to both Bush's and Reagan who have a deep respect for women, but would never be given credit for it since they oppose abortion.  What's up is down, what's down is up).
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Chieftain on October 31, 2013, 12:48:08 am
A caller into Hannity today pointed out how Obama always has women take the fall for him.  Sibelius, Rice, Lerner etc....  I found that to be a interesting observation and I believe NOW would be screaming from the rafters had it been Bush/Republican.   :nono:

yah...so much for the Republican War on Women, eh??

I would point out though, that the Hildebeest is already the presumed 2016 Dhimmie nominee...so I wonder how much will stick to her...
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Rapunzel on October 31, 2013, 12:48:50 am
yah...so much for the Republican War on Women, eh??

I would point out though, that the Hildebeest is already the presumed 2016 Dhimmie nominee...so I wonder how much will stick to her...

Nothing sticks to a Clinton no matter how bad it smells.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Millee on October 31, 2013, 12:49:34 am
Nothing sticks to a Clinton no matter how bad it smells.

Or Obama.   **nononono*
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Cincinnatus on October 31, 2013, 01:07:00 am
I just saw on another website where someone referred to Sibelius as Cruella de Ville. Lol. Seems apt.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Chieftain on October 31, 2013, 01:44:35 am
Or Obama.   **nononono*

That has yet to be proven.  The Hildebeest married well, and now that it is her turn she is able to tap into that vast Arkansas mafia that her husband put together.  Obama does not have that depth, and what little he had is rapidly being alienated...witness some of the recent things out of the mouths of guys like Bob Gibbs....
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: xfreeper on October 31, 2013, 04:30:38 am
I was watching until WAXMAN came on and I had to leave! He makes me want to BARF!!!

Ok, just to clarify....was that with the sound on or off?
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Bigun on October 31, 2013, 04:40:40 am
Ok, just to clarify....was that with the sound on or off?

Doesn't matter!
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Rapunzel on October 31, 2013, 05:54:22 am
Doesn't matter!

I think Chris Matthews compared the wrong person to Freddie Kruger.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Bigun on October 31, 2013, 01:06:49 pm
I think Chris Matthews compared the wrong person to Freddie Kruger.

Can't get used to looking up his nostrils as he speaks! Makes me ill!
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 31, 2013, 01:35:49 pm
Can't get used to looking up his nostrils as he speaks! Makes me ill!

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTZoRgEx9EmHobQSP3KwgkUzi8YRfU58576QWD7sqnuxP1JTr36SA)
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: musiclady on October 31, 2013, 02:35:15 pm
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTZoRgEx9EmHobQSP3KwgkUzi8YRfU58576QWD7sqnuxP1JTr36SA)

Wow!  The resemblance is striking!

And to think that Lon Chaney ended up dying because he made himself so ugly!   :smokin:
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Bigun on October 31, 2013, 03:20:24 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4jeA07Jw0Bk#t=55
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: happyg on October 31, 2013, 03:29:53 pm
Everything about the ACA is a lie. It has nothing to do with healthcare, but control over the people. The biggest boondoggle in it is that anyone can register to vote. That is the sole reason they kept private information off the sign-ups.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Bigun on October 31, 2013, 03:39:14 pm
Everything about the ACA is a lie. It has nothing to do with healthcare, but control over the people. The biggest boondoggle in it is that anyone can register to vote. That is the sole reason they kept private information off the sign-ups.

 :amen:  :amen: and  :amen:
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Chieftain on October 31, 2013, 05:07:38 pm
Everything about the ACA is a lie. It has nothing to do with healthcare, but control over the people. The biggest boondoggle in it is that anyone can register to vote. That is the sole reason they kept private information off the sign-ups.

The ACA has been in the making for 100 years, and there are hardcore progressives in Congress who will do anything required to force it into place.
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Bigun on October 31, 2013, 05:15:01 pm
The ACA has been in the making for 100 years, and there are hardcore progressives in Congress who will do anything required to force it into place.

First brought up by one Theodore Roosevelt!
Title: Re: Sibelius on the hotseat (LIVE)
Post by: Rapunzel on October 31, 2013, 08:09:09 pm
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTZoRgEx9EmHobQSP3KwgkUzi8YRfU58576QWD7sqnuxP1JTr36SA)

Talk about separated at birth........... :thud: