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Even before we were taught how to build a fire, we were taught how to contain it--and even when no fire at all was the best option. Seems a lot of the "Smokey the Bear" stuff got lost somewhere.

Yep.

Fire is always a useful servant.
Fire is always a terrible master.

 :beer:
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Texas / Re: Catastrophic flash flooding along Guadalupe River, Texas
« Last post by mountaineer on Today at 08:25:09 pm »
As noted above, there were warnings - so the leftists trying to blame this on Trump can just eat rocks and die.  (No, I didn't know we had a National Water Center at NOAA, but here we are).

The NWS National Water Center started issuing flood hazard advisories for Texas back on July 1st.

https://twitter.com/nwsnwc/status/1940017560793358791
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Some of that is probably true. But there are other factors.

Foremost, I think that city folks are even more ignorant than they have ever been... But at the same time, circumstances are such that there is great interest in the woods, in living off the land - so there is a greater load of these greenhorns than usual.

I see that here. One of the young bucks I know couldn't get a slash pile to burn this spring, so he waited for it to dry out sommore, and lit off 10 acres by the time he lit it at all. Just plain dumb, but could have been a whole lot worse.

Last spring, another one burned down his own camp kicking over an oil heater in his sleep. That was another one that got bad, but could have gone way worse.

That's two I have direct knowledge of, where normal is none.  :shrug:

But by far and away, I think it is poor land management - Ladder fuels have been stacking up for years where people interact with the woods the most... And increased use is driving newbies deeper in because camps are overused and have no resources close to hand, right to where those ladder fuels are.

That's where I would go too - where the fuel is easy picking - I just have the sense it takes to keep from lighting the whole thing up.
Even before we were taught how to build a fire, we were taught how to contain it--and even when no fire at all was the best option. Seems a lot of the "Smokey the Bear" stuff got lost somewhere.
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Texas / Re: Catastrophic flash flooding along Guadalupe River, Texas
« Last post by Smokin Joe on Today at 08:19:37 pm »
Based on that video, it went from very little flow to peak flow in about 3 minutes...

YIKES!
Puts this in perspective, doesn't it.

Which is why I am always looking for the exit in canyon country (but I scope that out most anyplace, just out of habit).
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Texas / Re: Catastrophic flash flooding along Guadalupe River, Texas
« Last post by mountaineer on Today at 08:19:21 pm »
I thought the flooding we had here a few weeks ago, in which 9 died, was horrendous. This is beyond comprehension.  **nononono*

The total number of people who have lost their lives in the devastating floods has risen to 43. There are 28 adults and 15 children.

https://twitter.com/GuntherEagleman/status/1941637196810785147
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Will the America Party consider the federal and state governments pouring massive subsidies into both Telsa and SpaceX  waste or fraud or abuse --- or all three?   :pondering:

Who knows? But even if, it would not even measure as a pittance against what is funded now. So let's find out! I'll take that road. At least for a ways.
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Jokes and Humor / Re: The Official TBR Silliness Thread---2025
« Last post by corbe on Today at 08:08:42 pm »
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Musk (and Conservatives) want to balance the budget.  They want to end deficit spending.  They want to marginalize the Fed.  They want smaller government.  They want to end corruption. 

Will the America Party consider the federal and state governments pouring massive subsidies into both Telsa and SpaceX  waste or fraud or abuse --- or all three?   :pondering:





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Hey I have the same feeling about Trump some days. Not the drugs part, just the who will it be oday pat.

For you @GtHawk    :laugh:


https://twitter.com/DanScavino/status/1940847213334483109
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Politics/Government / Re: Political Graphics 2025
« Last post by 240B on Today at 07:41:25 pm »


Not Wilder, but the character in the musical/movie was a fairly obvious psycho, and a pedophile.
Never understood why people love it so much?
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